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Not reporting is bourgeois


 

I mean, aiding the US in funding a Cambodian genocidal nationalist to own the Soviet Union seems like good ol' imperialism to me. Is this one of the reasons why Marxist-Leninist states are infamous for putting geopolitics over the advancement of socialism worldwide? Honest question, has China apologised for its involvement in the Vietnam War?

Ye they have
/thread

@vietanon

Cambodia is a sovereign nation. What right did Vietnam have to invade and forcibly regime change the government? A fellow socialist government mind you. China was right and defending Cambodia against Greater Viet land grabbing imperialism.

>>2455012
you must be lost, this is /leftypol/, not google.com.

>>2455037
They were doing a genocide against ethnic Vietnamese and going into Vietnamese territory on night raids to kill refugees, they were acting like Rwanda in Congo

>>2455076
They weren't. At best Red Khmers were legally charged with running run of the mill prison for political prisoners, there was no evidence for genocide or anything of the like, nobody, not even Cambodia itself or Vietnam, recognize that genocide has happened. Westoids, however, are 100% sure that genocide was a fact, because they live in a world choke full of the most vile anticommunist propaganda

>>2455080
The cross birder raids were real along with military support for reactionary orgs like FULRO

>>2455080
A lot of communist “crimes” are exaggerated and even including Cambodia, but it is undeniable they committed some awful crimes. Again Pol Pot was likely helped by the CIA to discredit and divide socialist movements in Asia but it’s still dumb to deny everything they did.


>>2455089
>sourcing Wikipedia
ok blud I’m on your side but you can at least use something less bourgeois then that

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>>2455087
Again with this stupid argument. "But they MUST HAVE committed some crimes!" No, they didn't. Cambodia got into the crosshairs of Soviet and Chinese influences clashing, that's all there is to Cambodia's tragedy.

>>2455089
It's that museum that had museum workers collect skull and make this map to showcase the extent of bloodiness of Red Khmers, right? The same museum run by Japanese investment firm (a front for CIA)?

Alright, Cambodia wasn't recognizing genocide for as long as Red Khmers still lived in the country. Now, that there are close to none of them left alive to defend their name, anticommunists are out in force trying to spin the anti-Red Khmer narrative again because China is so big and grabby - and usual leftist suspects are believing every nonsense claim fascists utter

>>2455097
The place was liberated by Vietnamese communists, why would Vietnamese communists spread anticommunist propaganda? They’re not under the control of Gorbachev style liquidationists

>>2455092
it's reliable enough to tell you that the cambodian and vietnamese governments both recognize it as a genocide that factually occurred

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>>2455099
Because they've been spreading anticommunist propaganda - the same way you had Yakovlev in late USSR. You are arguing with "but how could communist sdo this???" against facts of Vietnamese installing that prison's commandments plaque, lol. Cambodia was a victim in all of this, with Vietnam (under the urging of USSR) invading Cambodia under bogus pretenses

the Vietnamese special military operation was 100% justified

remember this, under no circumstance do you have to defend or justify the khmer rouge

>>2455109
Go back to fighting Thailand Hun Sen

>>2455109
Remember this: you surrender to anticommunist propaganda under the slightest push. That's the fate of imperialist left - to obediently confirm every piece of nonsensical anticommunist alternate history

>>2455120
The vietnamese communists party is not anticommunist, they would have self liquidated in the 90s if they were

>>2455120
i'm sorry you refuse to let it go, but cambodia factually committed a genocide against their own population due to the reactionary nationalist tendencies of the khmer rouge.
>>2455115
i'm the vietnamese liberation of cambodia's strongest soldier

>>2455124
>but cambodia factually committed a genocide

Do back up your words with facts, would you? It's extremely funny to me how anticommunists try to pass blade slashes to skulls as proof of Khmer Rouge executing people with hoes, lmao. And they did this right in front of ancient Chinese cemetery, full of people who have died due to wars fought with swords and spears!

>>2455128
The fact is that Vietnam, who is not nor has ever been capitalist or imperialist felt the need to do a limited Special Military Operation, they have no reason to lie or slander

>>2455122
It is vaccilating, just like Cuba. It is in much better position than Cuba, though, and has a strong communist backer just across the border. Back in 1960-70s, USSR was trying to "contain" China, and Vietnam was one such containment piece. If during Stalin USSR and China did de facto abolish state border, under Khrushev and later USSR was remilitarizing like crazy and put more than a million people on the border against China

>>2455130
Vietnam was in a Svoiet bloc, Cambodia - in Chinese. Furthermore, USSR was poisoning Vietnam's minds with ideas about Indochinese Federation

>>2455132
Vietnam has the right to defend itself

>vietnam invades cambodia
:/
>china invades vietnam
:O

why are leftists like this?

>>2455128
I've also did find some forensic attempts at Khmer Rouge victims, done in 2000-2010s IIRC, and they quite plainly concluded that it was doubtful that Khmer Rouge were responsible

>>2455136
China did a finlandization of Vietnam with that war. Since that war Vietnam stopped provoking China, and China reciprocated by being friendly to Vietnam. Quite a successful resolution of a stupid intersocialist conflict

>>2455136
Vietnam won both, cry about it loser

>>2455139
capitalism won*

>>2455037
> What right did Vietnam have to invade and forcibly regime change the government?
They were doing a genocide

>>2455138
> Since that war Vietnam stopped provoking China
< Implying it wasn't china malding at vietnam siding with the USSR

You know who was really smart? The DPRK for staying neutral and cordial with everyone throughout this whole sino soviet split nonsense

>>2455150
They weren't. Even 2025 Cambodia proclamation about genocide talks about numbers in thousands at most.

>>2455152
Stop it already. We've seen how Soviet revisionist path has led to disintegration of socialism in USSR while China is still going and is winning the world. History is a harsh judge, but there's no wiser test than a test of history

>>2455148
As if the red khmers didn’t have a bunch of petit bourgeois in its ranks

>>2455157
you are arguing like a neo nazi, moffin have this guy thrown off a bridge

Khmer Rouge did
nothing
wrong and if you disagree you are an anti Communist slurping up NATO propaganda.

>>2455107
>the same way you had Yakovlev in late USSR
Yakovlev was an anti-communist, the CPV are not. Simple as. Also Vietnam was backed by the USSR and the KR was backed by the CIA so it shouldn't take us too long to figure out who the good guys were, even if the genocide accusations are false.

>>2455167
KR was not backed by the CIA shut the fuck up you westoids know nothing. The so-called "genocide" was a direct result of the US Air Force bombing the crap out of Cambodia WHILE IT WAS BEING GOVERNED BY THE KHMER ROUGE. Fucking RETARDS reading wikipedia getting their "knowledge" from one site thinking they know ANYTHING at all about this topic.

>>2455168
CIA backed the Khmer Rouge when it was out of power and in active insurgency against Vietnam and the People’s Party government

>>2455165
it's over man, just go home

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>>2455165
Huh, even this guy got brainwashed by immense amounts of propaganda.

Then he does a second pic. Literally "Stalin was too kind" kind of sentiment

>>2455173
almost like they were things that actually happened… no let's instead just use holocaust denier-tier reasoning to own le anticommunists

>>2455169
Also once they were removed from power the KR renounced communism anyways so I seriously don't know what is fuelling these delusions that they were the true revolutionaries or something.

>>2455175
it is pure contrarianism

>>2455173
>>2455165
Well, the video is also dishonest in presenting this man as if he was admitting to crimes of genocide. He quite cleanly separates killing of anticommunist traitors from the "we didn't know about other killings". I mean, yeah, because those other killings- ones that would have constituted genocide - didn't happen.

>>2455174
Man is saying what he did and didn't. Former party members? Sure, loud and clear admission, no regrets. Random ass civilians? "Neither we or Pol Pot knew anything", very reminiscent of supposed Stalin crimes, lol

>>2455167
> the KR was backed by the CIA
And Thai monarchy. If i didn't know better that they are merely the internet addicted with personality disorders i'd say KR stans are royalists, yellow scum.

>>2455175
This man literally didn't renounce communism. He is a defeated man, sure, but no regrets were had

Debt cancellation

What makes Vietnam socialist?

>>2455157
>Even 2025 Cambodia proclamation about genocide talks about numbers in thousands at most
the number of victims doesn't matter. it can be a genocide even if no one dies

>>2455176
That and internet schizo-ism. There were (from what I've read) Cambodian communists in the Khmer Rouge who were pro-Vietnamese or at least friendly / not hostile in the eastern zones but they got wiped out by Pol Pot's purges.

90% of China's involvement abroad was incredibly misguided and I will die on this hill. I don't care if you think the USSR are "social imperialists" on some level, actively engaging in foreign intervention across the world against revolutionary governments the USSR supported while in a circumstance of global capitalist encirclement is beyond stupid and a massive waste of resources and time. I should not have to read about a conflict and find China on the side aligned with the US as often as I do. Capitalists voraciously collaborated, communists didn't, and so communists died a slow death.


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