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>>2455743 >>2457055>>2457057This was/is still hilarious, trust me.
>t. Gen X/ Millenoid.I love Jews btw. Truly a remarkable people at the forefront of progressive culture.
>>2457039he knows the US is the largest cocaine launder machine.
they don't want to fight drug consumption, because that's the treat of the billionaires, and how they divide the poor.
but hey, let's see if all that soft talk gets into something meaningful. but I don't see how that problem is solved in the same way Nixon declared his state department kissinger buddy as a security advisor, the same way Trumpy declared narco rubio as his state department buddy and security advisor
>>2457054Venezuela is comforting the largest abuse in our continent in the last 100 years. 8 miltary ships, 1200 missiles and a nuclear submarine pointed at Venezuela. It's an abuse extravaganent, immoral, unjustified, absolutely criminal, absolutely criminal. They want to advance what they call maximum pressure and in this case is military. We will give the maximum protection and preparation to protect Venezuela.
The diplomacy by the imperialist is erratic, wrong that trump has implemented. Because trump. Trump you need to take care of yourself because mr Rubio wants to dirty his hands with blood. Rubio wants to dirty his hands with South American blood, Caribbean blood and venezuelan. He wants to fill bathrooms with blood. And trump your name will be dirtied with blood by this for history with a massacre and war with Venezuela and the Caribbean and south America. Because this will be a war with the whole content. Do you want to dirty your hands with blood trump?
The Mafia in Miami has taken political power in the white house and department of state. They have implemented their views of Miami extremist. They have put it into exterior politics across the Caribbean and south America. When you mess with one in South America you mess with all. It's the conscious that is in our cities. They have miamized the white house in the worst way. The worst versions of this were put in with what they call maximum pressure on a country
I don't have any bad feelings to trump. We have a different view of the world. We only agree on 1 thing. A modest country like venezuela. That he says he wants peace for the world. If he wants peace for the world we in venezuela are his only ally if he really wants peace. But I know he doesn't have the power to make the choice. The deep state won't let him make a choice.
Venezuela messed with we would go directly to a military defense of our country. For our country and history. We would declare constitutionally a war or arms. From north to south east and west to guarantee peace progress sovereignty in any circumstances that we are in. We will a big history again. We are a people who prepare for peace. We will guarantee our peace. We have this planned
>>2457074>>2457077mostly, they want to scare investors, and keep a monopoly of oil extraction, but limited so Venezuela can never shine.
This is demonstrated by the renewed license.
Though Maduro said that the fucker narco rubio promised to the bourgeoisie politicians the chair in Miraflores.
>>2457083So he's saying Little Marco is trying to organise regime change and they bugged the conversation?
What's the next move from the americans going to be?
>>2457091>>2457089You know, the funny thing about these "freedom fighters" is that they never explain their politics. It's literally just "judge by my enemies" for them while running the most vilifying propaganda of the other side. If they said these are largely part of the same US funded, US backed and local rich fuck backed "opposition" whose entire political project consists on blaming the results of sanctions and glowops on whoever is in power, and not so subtly imply that if they happen to be there the US will leave Venezuela alone… then fucking nobody would think of them heroic.
The petrostate socdems sending the riot cops to beat up protestors (paid or violent notwithstanding) would look like the underdog when these opposition people are mere appendages of the USA.
What are the american options in venezuela if they cannot/will not send in a full army?
>>2457084>They gonna do in presidente bus driver in like they did Saddam bros.I was just thinking strangely that he looks way to much like sadam this is not good.
>>2457121>they never explain their politicsoh, she's all for "“privatize all hydrocarbon extraction”, literally a rancid turboneolib. she even describes herself a thatcherite in the economic thinking, privitizing utilities, and eliminating all kind of subsidizes.
https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2023/05/31/maria-corina-machado-we-must-privatize-pdvsa/https://archive.ph/TYpFe (from
https://www.hartenergy.com/exclusives/barred-machado-eyes-venezuela-energy-sector-privatization-debt-restructuring-205855)
https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-10-01/maria-corina-machado-the-venezuelan-margaret-thatcher.htmlit's not a secret why the US wants
her.
The other guy will be like bush jr. while she plays dick cheney stuff, in the hypothetical case they "govern".
in few years the only people seeing enrichment would be their people, like milei, while the rest sees no recovery, even with sanctions lifted.
This was interesting if true:
Venezuela’s J-10C Gamble: China’s “Vigorous Dragon” Fighter Jets Set to Challenge US Power in South AmericaVenezuela is preparing to ignite a seismic shift in South America’s balance of power as Caracas weighs the purchase of advanced Chinese J-10C “Vigorous Dragon” multirole fighters, in a move that would thrust Beijing’s cutting-edge combat aircraft into Washington’s backyard.
The discussions between Caracas and Beijing, though not officially confirmed, point to a dramatic expansion of China’s defence footprint in the Americas at a time of soaring tensions between Venezuela and the United States.
Venezuela’s current combat fleet is dominated by Russian-built Su-30MK2 fighters, but crippling Western sanctions and Moscow’s own stretched supply chains amid the Ukraine conflict have left the Venezuelan Air Force struggling to sustain operational readiness.
Reports suggest Caracas has been offered up to 20 J-10C fighters, with whispers in diplomatic and military circles hinting at even bolder ambitions—including speculative mentions of China’s stealthy fifth-generation J-20—though few believe Beijing would part with its crown jewel.
<…https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/venezuela-china-j10c-fighter-jets-us-tensions/The rights new war is against the hepatitis b vaccine. This emerged the last few days. Now they say it is bad and you can only get cause being a prostitute and drugs so no one should get the vaccine anymore. China had as high as 10% of people with it before vaccinations with little of these 2 things
The right is just entirely anti science and anti intellectual at this point. At least fascist of like the 20th century weren't this fucking retarded. These people want to take horse dewormers to cure cancer
>Your newborn is not Hepatitis B vaccinated because of wokeness>The so-called Nietszcheans are at it againhttps://www.writingruxandrabio.com/p/your-newborn-is-not-hepatitis-b-vaccinated>>2457144my dad thinks bleach cures everything, he drinks it or spreads it on his skin if he thinks he's ill
these people are beyond saving really
>>2457147the human body can put up with a lot
also these people don't like chug whole cups, they dilute a few drops, still fucked obviously
>>2457144>The right is just entirely anti science and anti intellectual at this point.So close! they're actually anti-intelligence.
I think a lot of rightoids just try to turn intelligence into a bad thing and severe mental retardation into a virtue as a cope for being stupid as hell.
>>2457159both my parents schizomaxxed during covid and watched a shitload of channels ran by random crazy boomers and do so to this day, I dont even know how they always manage to find so many of those, is being an anti medicine schizo a big grift or something?
>>2457160that's fucked up holy shit, I'm glad my entire family other than my parents is smart enough to know they're just a couple of crazies I'd enter despair mode if my parents managed to spread their bullshit to everyone else, I'm really sorry anon
>>2457166failed? picrel
in the us only because the largest spending is the US military, and no one can reduce that without overthrowing imperialism, reducing monetary and currency control on the international market that is backed by violence.
so politicians do everything at hand to attack, suppress, abandon, betray, antagonize, defund, etc. everything libertarian on the US.
in the rest of the world libertarianism is gaining a foothold, as a rebranded neoliberalism, that is rebranded laissez-faire.
>>2457060my favorite genre of post is making up a person to get mad at
my second favorite genre of post is making up a person to be mad at, then pretending to be the most cringe version of them
>>2457183>>2457176whenever I check murican and generally anglo social media its always boomers going for the "huh its national SOCIALISM" angle with zoomers and millenials saying "thats not the way it works…"
on the other hand in spanish speaking circles people younger than me actually fall for it, I feel like we're so cooked over here
>>2456470>Actually Cruz's excuse is that he's a Republican tbh. Having American parents doesn't satisfy the requirements. You have to be physically born on American soil. Nah, you don't have to be. Just have an American citizen for a parent and you're good.
>Cruz was born in Canada and they only made up the "American parents" thing and the media ran with it. Somehow the media didn't care about Obama's parents both being Americans when they claim he was born in Kenya.Well you're talking about the media. So Fox News ran with the Birther thing when Obama was president while claiming (falsely) he was born in Kenya. And you'll see Democrats (at least partisan Demfags on the internet) claim that Cruz isn't eligible because he was born in Canada. It's noise. Doesn't matter.
>>2456477>Tulsi gabbard too since she was born in a territory not a state (America Samoa) where they don't automatically get u.s citizenship by birth … but her mom was a white woman born in Indiana in the USA. Yeah. She's fine.
>>2456511>You have people who are so well off they just leave literally everything there, whole campsites left … You'd see whole crowds leave sets as soon as the first track started. You'd talk to people "I'm just getting a photo to say I saw the artist, and then it's on to the next one."You're tripping me out, man.
>Only music festival I would go to is the Gathering of Juggalos 💯I've gone to some "festivals" but it's always just a bunch of bands playing in a club. You can miss me on these monster festivals where you have to go camping or whatever it is people do. I'm also a cheapskate.
>>2456594>Hell, there's an entire subculture of cinephiles that only watch A24 and other "artsy" films, not because they think capeshit is beneath them but because it literally is not fun to watch. I am one of these people. I genuinely cannot enjoy a film that doesn't have good writing.Yeah I'm not a cinephile at all (I rarely even watch movies) but I don't find superheroes interesting at all. The last two movies I actually sat down and watched all the way through were Warfare (which is an A24 movie) and the two Dune pictures. And before that Blade Runner 2049. I like sci-fi and war movies and movies with some concept. I also watched the original Forbidden Planet recently. That's a funny movie. Proto-Star Trek. It terrified the shit out of kids in the 1950s.
>>2456584>That said, Star Trek >>>>>>>> Star WarsYes.
>>2456609>The new Star Trek is liberal slop and they even put Elon Musk in that mf. Fuck Picard, fuck anything post 2000 in relation to Star Trek.My dad is a big trekkie and loves Strange New Worlds. The problem the Trek showrunners got into is that it's so weighed down by the canon that they come up with these alternative dimensions so Kirk exists but it's a different timeline. Star Trek is really built around the characters thrown into some situation and they have to engineer their way out of it. Anyhow, there was an episode where they're messing around in the holodeck and it was taking the piss out of 60s Star Trek and dad thought it was hilarious.
>>2456635>How do Americans feel about India taking over the U.S.'s role as a mediator in Ukraine?I hope everything works out and both sides find a way to settle their differences peacefully.
>>2456725>Nick is the most interesting character in US politicsWhat do you find interesting about him? I've watched a few clips posted here and he's like "
isn't it interesting that [so-and-so on the right] isn't really a theocratic fascist… it's that just soooo 'interesting' hmmmmmm." Well, sure. That is mildly interesting but I don't find it THAT interesting. That's just me though.
>>2456744>I can't name any other american commentators featured on iranian state tvI think it says something about the Iranian government.
>>2456742>In between this and literal Hitler/Nazi apologia being posted here, there's very obviously people trying to turn this website towards Neo-Naziism. Yeah. They believe that the far left can be won over to their agenda so they try to slide in and introduce their guy.
>>2456773>Moderation needs to blanket ban right wing figureheads.>>2456776>that just validates their persecution complex and gives them outsider clout>>2456790>I can't believe people are still shilling this craven "Repressing Nazis makes them stronger" bullshit in 2025. >>2456818>But imageboards are basically built around "muh freeze speech" and "muh anonymity" which means moderation of speech is nearly impossible The persecution complex stuff is stupid and we shouldn't worry about it. They tend to ALREADY frame themselves that way and we're dummies to buy into it. Me personally though, I don't usually respond to rightists by trying to censor them (I'm not a janny either), but it's not because I care about their victim complex. I'd rather ask them simple, semi-Socratic questions to expose contradictions in front of everybody while not getting pulled into their own psychodrama. When trolls are a problem is when they're trying to just wreck the site. I think the most you can ask of imageboards is for them to be (a) fun and (b) mildly informative.
>>2457083>He can come visit southern command (us military base I assume) Basically. It's a headquarters (at a military base in Florida) for U.S. military forces operating in South America, Central America and the Caribbean. The U.S. has a somewhat Roman-like system where there are different "combatant commands" covering different parts of the world like Roman proconsuls. (There's also AFRICOM for Africa and CENTCOM for the Middle East.) It's like an organizational system with each command led by a four-star general or admiral who has authority over all U.S. military troops, sailors, airmen, etc. and their gear in their respective region. The chain of command goes from President → Defense Secretary → Combatant Commander. This is the current SOUTHCOM chief:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Holsey >>2457174Jeez, how many trans people know this website?
t. not trans but fluent in all forms of brainrot
>>2457236im another one but I wouldnt do anything sexual with nick fuentes
by the way I know of other 3 t-girls that browse this website, all from my third world country lmao
>>2457174the CIA couldn't waterboard me into saying that shit
>>2457070>>2457179And they are dancing, the board floor slamming under the jackboots and the fiddlers grinning hideously over their canted pieces. Towering over them all is The Donald and he is naked dancing, his small feet lively and quick and now in doubletime and bowing to the ladies, huge and pale and hairless, like an enormous infant. He never sleeps, he says. He says he'll never die. He bows to the fiddlers and sashays backwards and throws back his head and laughs deep in his throat and he is a great favorite, The Donald. He wafts his hair and the golden locks of his scalp passes palely under the lamps and he swings about and takes possession of one of the fiddles and he pirouettes and makes a pass, two passes, dancing and fiddling at once. His feet are light and nimble. He never sleeps. He says that he will never die. He dances in light and in shadow and he is a great favorite. He never sleeps, The Donald. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die.
>>2457145I am hearing that on his deathbed Trump received the light of Islam and unhesitatingly recited the Shahada.
Even now he looks down on the Ummah from the Gardens of Jannah!
Truly there is no god but God, and Mohammed is his prophet!
>>2457236 (me, phoneposting)
>>2457252lol, insane. Transcommunism truly transcends national borders
>>2457252>by the way I know of other 3 t-girls that browse this website, all from my third world country lmaoI send my regards to all of you.
>>2457265He's a schizo. A highly intellectual one, though.
>>2457275There's the Twenty-fifth:
>Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.>Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.>Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.>Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department [sic] or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office. >>2457249That's right
DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT GOING TO ITCHY & SCRATCHY LAND!
>>2457294This is basically a
quiet LOUD confession that PRC visa students were half the names on STEM research papers, and all the jingoistic screeching about the PRC stealing our precious "IP" was just reframing the fact that we were doing brain drain and then they were going back home with their own knowledge in their heads.
>>2457289>Who are you? Woody Allen?Great piece of tv! Also, I remember seeing somewhere a meme of here in a hospital bed after she gave birth to one of her children, holding him in her arms but they swapped the kid's face with le happy merchant meme's face. Her conversion was necessary because according to halachichal law - or something like that… - someone born from a jewish mother is automatically jewish and doesn't need to convert later. Mr Kushner, being a good jewish supremacist, wanted 100% jewish children right from the start. The Don himself once said he has "beautiful jewish grandchildren" because of that.
That said, I don't know if it's true, but I remember reading Ivanka may have played a part in pushing for some missile attack against Syria long before (((Julani)))'s ghouls took power. Whatever the truth is, she deserves to rot in hell just for being the spawn of Zion Don and his first bimbo wife.
>>2457294>>2457302On twitter I see a lot of people also getting mad about Indians getting a lot of offers and visa in the it and technology sector.
>>2457327>>2457326The more accurate analysis is that capital is in a constant state of both primitive accumulation, overproduction and war.
That's what's required to make a profit.
>>2457340feels like a majority of retards here still believe there are feudal/semifeudal states left lmao
>is not in marxlol k
>>2457346bc he needed to sound smart
>>2457385What in that video makes you think that?
Also:
<Comments are turned offLMAO
>>2457275we have a system where the vp becomes the president in case the president is dead or incapacitated.
i think vance would get a honeymoon with maga types to see if he is cool or not
>>2457378well it would certainly nullify the effects of currency hegemony over time and there is a case to be made that it's really fucked up that people aren't allowed to escape war zones like Gaza. Also it would probably accelerate international class consciousness over time by dissolving national identity.
also it's really worth asking why the hell commodities are free to move across borders but human beings aren't. why am I less free to move around than a dildo?
>>2457461I guess also that open borders aren't happening because the bourgeoisie don't want them to. We have to reorganize society such that the capitalist pigs have no choice but to allow for open borders (it puts them at a competitive disadvantage to close borders).
My actual strategy would be to create larger economic units in the global South kind of like the Sahel states stuff Traore is doing. Basically, the EU for poor people is what I would recommend. Inside of the imperial core, I would focus on closer connections between Indigenous nations and other internal colonies. Suppose you could organize a regular bus between the ghetto and the reservation, stuff like that.
>>2457175It is not only Bolivia, but Ecuador too.
Every latam country has its own little Milei, not the Ancap meme one but the rather common imperial vassal ready to bend the knee (more than previous generations).
>>2457483>got booed the whole time understandable
>for being Indian Straya moment
>>2457527based
8k is shit
pay them demhoes for 100k with disclosure
>>2457144>spreadsheet brainspeaking of neoliberalism, remember that Sydney Sweeny eugenics moral panic recently? Capitalists believe if you have good genes you will be capable of surviving the diseases ravaging the Fourth Reich. These degenerates really do believe that if you get sick, you must be weak and thus you deserve to die:
"If 1,000,000 Americans were killed by covid, that's a GOOD THING" - British PMC reptiles behind The Great Barrington Declaration which is frequently talked about on Death Panel podcast (read Health Communism!)
>>2457708James Dobson died.
Rest in piss.
We're having a discussion in the group chat about how we can, you know, get more people to read the magazine, how we can grow it, how we can, you know, add more flair to it, you know, how can we improve things. We're constantly trying to improve things, and one of the main people I work with is a lesbian woman, who is an indigenous lesbian woman, like, motherfucker, you can't cancel this magazine for shit. You can't cancel me, everything runs through her before it goes up on the mag. So, but she suggested that we need, we need titty, we need hot, we need hot women, and titties, and fuckin' gun content, and I'm like, okay, okay, none of these things that you just said are typically things that you could get away with as a leftist. Like, the deprogram subreddit has a flat, straight-up ban from what I've been told on anyone who works in the sex work industry, right? Anyone who works in the adult industry is getting banned from one of the largest communist forums just on default. That tells me that the left is very stuffy, you know? There's very much a prudeness to the left. I think that comes from the disconnect from the working class, low-key. I think it comes from the desire to appeal to respectability politics, to appeal to, like, the academia, the NGO class. Basically, our culture has been defined by professional academia class, NGO class, like, PMC class leftists, who just are not built for that. I cannot imagine any of those guys, like, going to a strip club. I used to go to strip clubs all the time. I dated a stripper for a few months. She was great. Her name was Violet. So, I'm thinking that energy is going to be received very poorly by other leftists, but also probably be received pretty well by the actual working class. And that's something you have to consider, bro. You're not making things, you're not trying to appeal to other leftists, because other leftists have already got the message. You're trying to appeal to the working class, to the masses. If your target audience is other leftists, I think you might be fucked.
>>2457740>one of the main people I work with is a lesbian woman, who is an indigenous lesbian woman, like, motherfucker, you can't cancel this magazine for shit. You can't cancel me, everything runs through her before it goes up on the mag. So, but she suggested that we need, we need titty, we need hot, we need hot women, and titties, and fuckin' gun content, and I'm like, okay, okay, none of these things that you just said are typically things that you could get away with as a leftist. Like, the deprogram subreddit has a flat, straight-up ban from what I've been told on anyone who works in the sex work industry, right? <When the grooming cord chatlogs leakMaupin got cancelled for getting spankings from a Black Trans Queer Folx.
>>2457778Solid nick
Liquid Nick
Solidus Nick
Naked nick
Big nick
Punished venom Nick
>>2457567>Promoted the "Uighur Genocide" narriativeHe literally said it wasn't a genocide
>Compared the Russian operation in the Ukraine to the Gaza GenocideWell, the framework for ceasefire for the Russian invasion is being penned by the same people who penned the genocidal occupation of the Westbank.
>Promoted regime change narriatives against Venezuela by claiming election fraud<highlighting the obvious corruption of Maduro is the same as promoting a foriegn invasion to oust himZ-fags have such large sticks up thier asses they must "correctly" phrase thier shitposts and call anyone or anything a glowie if it doesn't fit thier injected dopamine narrative or else the entire geopolitical 4d-multipolar chessboard will collapse upon us all!
>>2457809I did not vote for Trump.
American hegemony needs to end, but I prefer it ended without everything going to shit.
>>2457851It's wild to me that we destroyed or otherwise harassed
<Afghanistan<Iraq<Libya<Syria<Somalia<Yemen<Palestine<Pakistanover what 19 guys from
<Saudi Arabia (15)<UAE (2)<Egypt (1)<Lebanon (1)supposedly did while under command of a
<literal CIA asset used against the soviets in Afghanistan, and also the failson of Saudi Real Estate tycoonswhose company was
<literally in a meeting with Bush Sr. (HW) and the Carlyle institute the moment the planes hitnot even to get into all the shit with the asbestos, the insurance fraud, larry silverstein, WTC 7, the pentagon, the missing money, etc.
>>2457843Kojima can be hit or miss. His storytelling is inspired by 80s American action movies and takes on the character of conspiratorial thrillers as well, so sometimes he's really "on it" and sometimes he's really "off it."
Like Naked Snake admires the Che Guevara but at the same time is a literal American CIA agent who killed countless soviet troops during the virtuous mission lol
>>2457864Despite this, the spirit of the worker survives or some shit.
One day I will return to your side
>>2457806>highlighting the obvious corruption of Maduro is the same as promoting a foriegn invasion to oust himyou know the bourgeois media "highlights corruption" (real or imagined) in the runup to literally every coup, right? Like remember when Evo Morales was accused of corruption by "indifferent international bodies" who "just cared about election integrity" before Jeanine Anez got in power?
If you have a medium sized "alternate narrative" platform like BadEmpanada does and you end up repeating the same narrative as MSM, then you are reinforcing that MSM narrative. If you think Maduro is "problematic" but you see that the CIA wants to replace him with something worse then maybe calculated silence is the best call. Leave it to the Venezuelan proletariat to criticize Maduro on their own terms rather than manufacturing consent for regime change by joining the chorus of MSM at a crucial moment when they're literally accusing Maduro of being some kind of modern day Pablo Escobar, which is obviously untrue, and rich coming from a country whose intelligence agency literally worked with Pablo Escobar on several occasions.
>>2457969it's not ironic. burger firsters just want exactly what they say: for america to be the "greatest country on earth." And for that to happens it means
1: maintaining american hegemony
2: some kind of wealth redistribution
problem is goal 1 directly competes with anti-imperialism, which they also pretend to care about
>US sliding towards 1930s-style autocracy, warns Ray Dalio
Billionaire hedge fund boss says other investors are too scared of Trump to speak out
Hedge fund billionaire Ray Dalio has warned Donald Trump’s America is drifting into 1930s-style autocratic politics — and said other investors are too scared of the president to speak up.
The Bridgewater Associates founder told the Financial Times that “gaps in wealth”, “gaps in values” and a collapse in trust were driving “more extreme” policies in the US.
“I think that what is happening now politically and socially is analogous to what happened around the world in the 1930-40 period,” Dalio said.
State intervention in the private sector, such as Trump’s decision to take a 10 per cent stake in chipmaker Intel, was the sort of “strong autocratic leadership that sprang out of the desire to take control of the financial and economic situation”, Dalio said.
His comments to the FT mark a rare criticism of Trump by a prominent financial figure, despite mounting private alarm at the president’s policies among some Wall Street investors.
“I am just describing the cause and effect relationships that are driving what is happening,” he said. “And by the way, during such times most people are silent because they are afraid of retaliation if they criticise.”
Dalio, who is among the US’s best-known macro hedge fund investors and turned Bridgewater into a $150bn powerhouse at its peak, also warned about the threats to the Federal Reserve’s independence days after Trump launched an unprecedented move to sack one of its governors.
Trump also recently nominated a close ally to fill a vacancy on the Fed’s board, a critical step as he pushes for fast and deep cuts to borrowing costs.
Dalio said a politically weakened central bank, pressed to keep rates low, “would undermine the confidence in the Fed defending the value of money and make holding dollar-denominated debt assets less attractive which would weaken the monetary order as we know it”.
International investors had started shifting out of Treasuries into gold, he added.
Dalio said he also believed many years of big deficits and unsustainable debt growth had brought the US economy to the brink of a debt crisis, although he noted “presidents from both parties” had overseen a worsening situation before Trump’s latest fiscal plan.
“The great excesses that are now projected as a result of the new budget will likely cause a debt-induced heart attack in the relatively near future,” he said. “I’d say three years, give or take a year or two.”
Dalio, the author of Principles for Dealing With the Changing World Order and How Countries Go Broke: the Big Cycle, has long been vocal in warning of the debt threat posed to western economies. He likened the US to a body’s circulatory system clogged with plaque as the debt service payments squeeze out other spending.
He said Washington was spending about $7tn a year while raising just $5tn in revenue — an imbalance that would force massive new debt issuance just as investors were questioning whether Treasuries were “good storeholds of wealth”. He added: “The demand for debt will unlikely keep up with the supply.”
The Fed would face a stark choice as the market began doubting the US’s fiscal credibility, Dalio added. “Allow interest rates to go up and have a debt default crisis, or print money and buy the debt that others won’t buy.” Both paths would hurt the dollar, he said.
The veteran investor also took aim at a rising impulse towards state control under Trump. Dalio resisted calling the president’s model authoritarian or socialist, but described the mechanics bluntly: “Governments increasingly take control of what is done by central banks and businesses.”
Asked about Trump’s Intel stake and export tariffs imposed on Nvidia and AMD, Dalio referred to his own concept of “the big cycle”, when during periods of great conflicts and risks countries’ leaders are more controlling of the markets and the economy.
“Classically, increased wealth and value gaps lead to increased populism of the right and populism of the left and irreconcilable differences between them that can’t be resolved through the democratic process. So democracies weaken and more autocratic leadership increases as a large percentage of the population wants government leaders to get control of the system to make things work well for them.”
>>2457983>Literally none of this is happeningwhats not happening? streamers and "influencers" arent bridging the gap of MSM? if anything that anon is understating the case by saying zoomers are the new boomers. half of the gen-x'ers i know are addicted to instagram reels. joe rogans podcast is or recently was some of the most widespread english language media
if you dont see that everywhere in your life you are genuinely lucky. but /isg/ type slop is the rule, not the exception, its how most people encounter political opinion. it is to any halfway informative coverage of current events what poker is to a slot machine. im not saying be a humorless stick in the mud or avoid anything entertaining, but at least dont roll around in a pile of shit acting like your ironic smirk means youre actually better and smarter than all the senile husks in the casino mechanically pulling on a lever because it produces a moment of flashes and sounds that even an infant would quickly get bored with. actually this tabloid shit is worse because the people addicted to it will seriously treat it as if theyre staying informed. at least when grandma is burning her social security at the 7/11 slot machine shes not going to say shes working on investments
>>2457996i dont even think this is true because most of the people who are willing to give (allegedly conditional) praise to reactionaries also tend to be suspicious and/or dismissive of even basic succdem wealth redistribution in the US, and/or dont care that the reactionaries they support are actively tearing out whatever safety net does exist.
your criticism applies to supporters of bernie & AOC who dont even give the time of day to any criticism of american imperialism. totally different breed than the types that "critically" praise MTG/fuentes/carlson for their supposed usefulness for anti-imperialism
Media Left
>the people aren't ready for revolution, we need to meet them in the middle, tone down your beliefs
HOUDINI
>the left has failed the masses, the masses are more revolutionary than the left that 'leads' them
Media Left
>Violence has to be condemned at every turn, adventurism is unacceptable, we disavow
HOUDINI
>spontanous events will continue as the masses seek revolutionary leadership, adventurism only applies to cadre, Luigi was not reading your communist paper
Media Left
>I make 50k a month, and that's why you should listen to me
HOUDINI
>we work day jobs, hustle, do whatever we can, we are from the masses, by the masses
Media Left
>We all live in LA and NYC, this is where the real movement lives
HOUDINI
>the most important spaces for revolutionaries to be in are those with the most friction, leftists should re-locate to these areas to build dual power
>>2458245oh no you posted my cringe posts
what ever will i do, perhaps seethe? perhaps cry?
>>2458262Again I ask, and?
If she’s useful to the greater struggle, who gives a shit?
If she’s one of the only voices against Palestinian genocide, why the fuck would I care about her bank account?
Engles was a factory owner. We all exist within capitalism. If she plays the game, that’s fine.
>>2458303Ukraine has the right to self-determination free from NATO and Russian influence.
>she is bourgeois, she’s a politicianThen she can be dealt with after the nazis currently in power. Marx himself talked about allying with liberals to defeat reactionaries.
>>2458312I don't give a fuck what whatever blue dog politician says what. It's amazing to me how easily you can wave away literal concentration camps, mayo headed motherfucker.
Get armed, get organized, build something. The repression is here, and it will get worse.
>>2458310https://omar.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-omars-statement-russian-invasion-ukraineThat was the wrong person. It doesn't matter because they are all bots with the same line.
>ukraine has the right to be neonazi american neocolonywrong. You are a fascist.
>Marx himself talked about allying with liberals to defeat reactionaries.You say we must "ally" with imperialists to defeat imperialism. Marx said we must abuse liberals, not become them
>2. They must drive the proposals of the democrats to their logical extreme (the democrats will in any case act in a reformist and not a revolutionary manner) and transform these proposals into direct attacks on private property. If, for instance, the petty bourgeoisie propose the purchase of the railways and factories, the workers must demand that these railways and factories simply be confiscated by the state without compensation as the property of reactionaries. If the democrats propose a proportional tax, then the workers must demand a progressive tax; if the democrats themselves propose a moderate progressive tax, then the workers must insist on a tax whose rates rise so steeply that big capital is ruined by it; if the democrats demand the regulation of the state debt, then the workers must demand national bankruptcy. The demands of the workers will thus have to be adjusted according to the measures and concessions of the democrats. >>2458414No?
They clearly used Putin's cloning technology.
>>2458448All countries who are against ameriKKKa.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/us-enemy-countriesChina. Vietnam. Russia. Afghanistan. North Korea. Yemen. Cuba. Belarus. Venezuela.
>>2458483Then tell me what the proper response is.
If you tell me it is for the Ukrainians to be eliminated and absorbed into greater Russia I cannot agree.
>>2458509>Yeah it's Ukrainian governmentporoshenko banned the ukrainian communist party and started the civil war in which YES, the ukrainian government literally shot at other ukrainians for 8 years straight before evil putin
and yes, Zelensky banned other left parties
all because of a US-backed CIA coup in 2014. DO YOU DENY US-backed CIA COUP IN UKRAINE MAKING IT INTO PUPPET OF NATO?
>>2458612I do not care how much hate I get or how many names I am called.
I will not lose sight of the humans that make up the proletariat.
I won’t let my empathy be taken away.
>>2458623made up shit nobody said
>unalienable rightspooky
>>2458643I'm not evangelical im Catholic
Trump is 100% the anti Christ or someone who atleast made a deal with Satan
>>2458689China: unlike america we aren't world police
Americans in America who refuse to fight their own government: how dare china continue to do nothing and win instead of taking our bait
>>2458580>They're more like Isis or Al Qaeda than the NazisThey only go that way because of what burgers did between 1991 and 2014. 2022 was just the less reactionary of the two post-soviet regimes finally saying "Enough is enough, NATO!"
This doesn't mean Russia is "good" it's just obvious to me that America would replace Putin with someone worse if they had the chance, just like they replaced Yanukovych with someone worse. When they're done with Zelensky they'll replace him with someone worse. That's the goal. Total regional destabilization. Make Eastern Europe into another Middle East. Make it harder for Europe to integrate with Russia/China and make it more dependent on America. That's why it's proper to see this war as NATO vs. Russia and not Ukraine vs. Russia. Especially since NATO-appointed compradors are in charge of Ukraine, especially since NATO equipment is being used by Ukraine, especially since Ukrainians were baited with false promises of NATO membership for decades which is why the Ukrainian government was the only non-NATO country supporting literally every NATO mission back in the 00s including the invasion of Iraq, which even some NATO members like France was hesitant about. Make sense?
>>2458982>Did anyone think to ask the Ukrainians whether they see it this way?Separatists in Donbass and Crimea certainly do, who were getting shelled by Poroshenko's thugs 2014-2021, when Lindsey Graham and John McCain visited and declared that "2017 would be the year of offense against Russia" as well as many west Ukrainians who have been beating the shit out of recruiters, lighting their vehicle son fire, etc.
You seem to fail to understand that America literally couped ukraine in 2014 and installed a comprador regime that pushed to escalate with Russia. You seemed to fail to understand that war with Russia was always the goal. Everyone seems to have memoryholed as well the footage circulated on twitter 2022 of the right wing territorial defense units rounding up ukrainians, accusing them of being russian saboteurs, tying them to trees, whipping them in public. I think you have zero context or understanding about this issue whatsoever. I have a folder with interviews with ukrainian civilians in Donbass who absolutely support the separatists. Especially in Mariupol which was rebuilt after Russian occupation. Azovites meanwhile stage artillery in kindergartens and hospitals, round up Roma, torture and execute people for speaking Russian as a first language, frag their own troops for giving up etc. I got the subtitles in the third vid from our resident Ukrainian who, guess what, doesn't support NATO's ukrainian puppet govt. in this.
>>2458982Here's how CIA-backed Azov battalion militants treat Ukrainian civilians in donbass. Why do you keep pretending that there wasn't a US-caused civil war 2014-2022 and that this is spilling over into a regional effort by NATO to destabilize the entirety of Eastern Europe and to replace Putin with an obedient comprador?
Here's Lindsey Graham admitting that the US is motivated by privatizaiton, deregulation, IMF loans, and mineral rights, that it's all a big effort to destabilize the region for western capital. It's not really about "helping Ukraine"
Here's Amy Klobuchar (Democrat) Lindsey Graham (Republican) and John McCain (Republican) trying and failing to get the Russia-Ukraine war started in 2022 but failing because Hillary (Democrat wasn't elected)
Here's the kind of people Victoria Nuland and Joe Biden meet with
Here's literally SS Officer Yaroslav Hunka, a Ukrainian living in Canada, getting thanked for his service and a standing ovation.
Are you seeing what I'm seeing? >>2458982Here's the remarkable merger of Zionism and Nazism that has taken place thanks to US intelligence.
Here's doug valentine explaining 70 years of CIA bullshit in ukraine
here's a ukrainian conscript realizing he's being used as cannon fodder by NATO
here's a ukrainian soldier realizing NATO junk is worthless and a big part of the war was just NATO selling them useless surplus equipment that isn't even as good as old soviet equipment
here's biden promising to destroy Nordstream 2 before Russia even invaded (to increase Europe's energy dependence
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