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Not reporting is bourgeois


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SEANN ORDUGH FEINNEACHAS ALBANNACH NAN RIDIRE'N TEAMPUILL

AN TEAMPULL DUBH

<It is an eternal verity in the history of mankind that when any structure or institution, in its aspect as a repository for the dedication and aspirations of human beings, becomes disestablished by whatever means, then a residual loyalty and affection will endure upon the foundations of all that has been invested in spiritual and intellectual terms, material outlay notwithstanding.


<To Scottish Patriots, whose key focus remains fixed upon a Nation state which has, to all outward appearances, ceased to exist several hundred years ago, such loyalty and affection are patent assumptions of everday life. Ostensibly destroyed by internal and external enemies in 1707, Scotland is lent a continuing and substantive existence by the nourishment of our ongoing patriotic commitment and constant political vigilance. The sovereign state which was Scotland seems to have ceased to exist, and in significant areas of human structuration it largely has. However, as a beautiful, sacred and eternal concept, Scotland has remained very much alive in the hearts and minds of its patriot devotees with the material reflection of all these poignant human desires about to yield the sweetest fruit known to mankind. We believe in Scotland's hidden powers: the present is theirs, but all the past and all the future is ours.


<Nor is this present humiliating settlement the first occasion on which our people have looked upon the outrage to their country. Between the time of Alexander III and the accession of The Liberator, Robert Bruce, there lived a generation who knew only destruction and loss, an era of unmitigated national grief, the time of the incomparable William Wallace, cornerstone and slaughtered hero whose shining example will live forever in the consciousness of our whole people.


<In reflection of the material ruin of The Scottish Nation, the once proud Knights Templar found themselves defenceless in the face of cruel persecution, deprived of substance or estate and denigrated by the pan-European sovereign office which had once extended them recognition. Scotland and The Order of Templar Knights have shared the experience of eclipse in all the palpable areas which had once denoted their singular marks of uniqueness.


<However, the bright burning concept of Templarism and the perfervid and yet fully rational belief that human spirituality can and does rise above the things of this earth, in order to make even simple sense of our condition as a species; this concept then has survived all the damage that ill-disposed Princes and their patronage could inflict. All the damage inflicted by successively and concomitantly the ascendant Bourgeoisie with their prerequisite pallid, trite and tedious respectabilities, the crass pseudo-intellectualism of the Gauchist revolutionary tendencies, the modern epidemic of materialism and the remorseless passing of generations. Et in arcadia ego. Thus with our ancient, sacred and enduring Scottish nation; the means to kill it has yet to be devised.


<The belief that Templarism has survived in tangible form in Scotland alone, remains a potent and vibrant folkic article of faith. The esoteric tradition which has been built upon that survival, realising in Freemasonry its most vernacular and populist vehicle (though there have also been the shady, secretive and elitist cults which have scarcely broken the surface of common awareness) is evident to those with eyes to see.


<Templarism concerns self-sacrifice and a spirituality which transcends materialist priorities and challenges the assumptions upon which these rest. Templarism owes its survival to its Scottish redoubt, and to an extent, the ancient regime of Scotland owed its existence to Templarism. The new Scotland will be our Temple restored upon these earlier solid foundations and crafted from the same durable masonry. The keystone of our patriotic agenda for the new Scotland will concern the fostering of that sense of spirituality and altruism which is the timeless and priceless heritage of the Order of the Temple.


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>>2477939
whats the british name for white trash?

>>2477883
>>2477939
I'm not even trying to be contrarian here but they literally just look like normal people…? Do you not go outside or something?

>inbred

Inbreeding is most prevalent among the upper classes who wouldn't be seen dead at one of these rallies and are overwhelmingly liberal in political outlook.

>>2477948
Don't know if we really have one. Back maybe 15 years ago or so you'd have the term "Chav" used in England and "Ned" used in Scotland but it's not quite the same thing and could also be a kinda anti-working class term in general.

>>2477957
Exceptions being the old geezer in the back of the photo with the wig and the woman with her tits out. But they're obviously both trying to stand out.

I hate to use the term "dysgenic" because eugenics is clearly a fascistic pseudoscientific lump of shit.
But the types of people you see at far right demos really so conjure the image of that word.

>>2477973
>why aren't the proles all good looking like the bourgeoisie
Wait until you find out who makes up all of the beauty standards you seem so invested in.

>>2477985
I am working class, I am poor af, so are millions of others, yet we don't look like that.

>>2478031
Reminds me that at a hotel protest a few weeks back there was a woman, obviously pissed, screaming her head off how she was the last one there. Saw her got on the bus and she was gripping onto the pole for dear fucking life. Was pretty tragic.

>>2478031
Look like what? Be specific!

So how went the far right "protest" in London today?

Approximately 150,000 attended a fascist rally in London today.
That's 150,000 people who need to be vaporised upon success of the revolution and I personally volunteer to undertake that job.

>>2478387

Damn that is some Mosley time numbers :(

>>2477869
>lest we forget
Nothing shows respect for fallen soldiers like appropriating them as fighting and dying for your own personal battles.

Like, I've no doubt the vast majority of tommies in WW1 would side with them wrt immigration and retaining near total whiteness of Britain, but to suggest they died in the trenches to prevent boat crossings over 100 years later after a slew of wars even more pointless than WW1 is a bit of a stretch.

>>2478333
Good numbers (probably the largest street right demo since teh NF in the 80s) but they sunked themselves too early again and ended up fighting police for no benefit.

Trump will be in the UK from the 16th to the 18th.
What are you going to do about it?

>>2478589
Charles Winsor the German / Norman KKKoloniser paedophile is in the UK every day.
What are you going to do about it?

>>2478650
Play video games and whine on the internet

>>2478589
American presidents visiting England is hardly a notable event. Must have happened well over a dozen times in my lifetime.

>>2478695
Why aren't you waging a Gonzaloists protracted people's war against foreign imperialist genocidal krakkkers?

>>2478703
Killing trump on its own would not be PPW. Killing trump and then retreating to a revolutionary base area as you conduct urban guerrilla warfare against the UKKK for the liberation of the working class and other progressive classes, using the ensuing U$ airstrikes as a way to galvanize further support among the people, and then using this to expand operations further until strategic offensive had been reached and the reactionary areas are ready to be stormed, that is PPW.

>>2478723
Unfortunately we live in a gun free zone

>>2478086
google macaco ingles

>>2478723
>progressive classes

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Apparently Mitchell and Webb have joined the ranks of ageing comedians declaring
>We'd be funnier if we were allowed to make jokes
in their new show.

A real shame, I thought they'd be on the level but apparently like Gervais, Cleese, Atkinson, etc they consider the more risque jokes in their repertoire to have been their funniest, rather the ones people actually remember.

Like take The Office, I don't think Brent hearing and repeating the "Black Man's Cock" joke and getting reprimanded for it was the scene most people think defined what was funny about The Office and the show wouldn't be the same without it. Mr Bean was a global success but apparently Atkinson is far more proud of the "Now we've got the recipe for curry, do all the Indians have to stay?" poke at the Tories he seemingly now aligns himself with.

Like when they were starting in the 80s and 90s and they were being told music hall stand-up IS FUNNY it's just the KIDS are PRETENDING it isn't, what would they have thought?

>>2479370
really? mark and jez unironically complaining about the woke mind virus?

>>2479388
Afraid so.

>>2479370
Jamie Borthwick got fired from Strictly and EastEnders by the BBC just for saying the word 'mong'. Objectively, it has all gone too far.

But imagine coping for your time having passed to essentially shit on your illustrious career of silly walks, free love freeway, crashing blue Robin Reliants, Suit You Sir, Cheezoid, etc to claim that really it was ironic racism/homophobia/xenophobia that was always the core of British comedy, that the social character of Thatcherite Britain simply has to continue via the likes of Tommy Robinson so that ironic laughing-at the offensive continues to be subversive rather than just "done".

>>2479404
What's the comedy in just calling someone a mong? That's funny on the playground but I think most would agree you need to have a bit more wit to get on BBC 2.

>>2477883
>The kind of people you would meet at an AA meeting.
Have you ever been to England? They only have one pastime, and it's getting shitfaced at the pub.

>>2479409
It wasn't in a comedic setting, I think it was just while they were rehearsing for strictly.

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>>2477883
they're called the lumpenproletariat, or as marx says, "the social scum". they contribute to most of antisocial behaviour. fascists, maoists and anarchists alike perceive them to be useful idiots for their cause, as i quote here: >>2462090
>"On the same day, I also had the opportunity to observe along several side streets the lumpenproletariat, which in no way is of the world of abstract ideas, as is the case with the masses. Bakunin was right in regarding the lumpenproletariat as a much more effective revolutionary force."
<ernst junger, "on pain", section 10, 1934
i otherwise refer to them as peasant remnants of the folk.

>>2479413
Then that's just being unprofessional to call someone a mong while on the job, I'm assuming that it's not a co-worker he called a mong for this to even be notable.

I'm actually devastated by Mitchell and Webb doing the "we're not funny because we can't make jokes" thing, weirdly I'm kind of glad Rik Mayall died because I'd be heartbroken to see him join the ranks as well.

>>2479435
And there's no possibility that Gen X'er and Boomer comedians are wrong to expect their comedy to be equally relatable and funny to Zoomers as for themselves?
>Dogpiled for jokes
This is the same bollocks with "Cancel Culture" you're not entitled to everyone laughing at your jokes because you made jokes, nor being applauded for the act of expressing an opinion.

Despite the insistence that younger generations are all snowflakes, boomers and gen x'ers are presenting themselves as victims of an Orwellian society because people aren't laughing when ahem, Mitchell and Webb have a tv show, that MUST mean they're funny! It's simply illogical to choose not to laugh.

>>2479443
Gen Z comedy is even edgier and less politically correct than Gen X humour. It's the millennials who are doing the moral policing, not 20 year olds who spend 6 hours a day watching racist instagram reels.

>>2479447
The point remains, you have a younger generation that doesn't find the jokes funny and boomer comedians are saying
>Well of course it's not funny, YOU won't let me do Blackface!
Like actually
>Mitchell and Webb have a tv show, that MUST mean they're funny! It's simply illogical to choose not to laugh.
isn't even really the point of the "we're not allowed to make jokes anymore" sketch, it's more an open admission that their new show pales in comparison to That Mitchell and Webb Look but they're blaming the audience.

That's not entertainment, that's not "common sense" on display, that's being a self-victimising pansy that they expect people to watch.

I don't know if its autism or being gen Z but I just do not find stand up comedy funny at all.

>>2479448
I agree with your point about the non-PC humour not being the reason younger generations find them unfunny. However, the fact remains that they still can't make these jokes because the media establishment is so obsessed with not upsetting minorities.

>>2479370
What new show?

>>2477973
I'm open, in an academic sort of way, to conceding some of the I.Q. Obsessives points while retaining a general left-wing political outlook. A lot of things are explained by these people simply being stupid. Not just uneducated, but actively stupid. (Fortunately, that doesn't mean the same thing as conceding "they're worthless", "they're entitled to fewer resources", etc. If anything, I apply a great lump of paternalist "therefore it's not their fault and we need a better system…")

Richard Hanania is a right-wing "former" nazi turned neoliberal anti-Trump type, but he makes interesting points about the US which would seem to generalize to the UK. For example: "Liberals Read, Conservatives Watch TV" ( https://www.richardhanania.com/p/liberals-read-conservatives-watch ) or "Elite human capital is always liberal" ( https://www.richardhanania.com/p/listen-to-the-science-conservatives - specifically, that economic and social conservatism are only loosely correlated worldwide. Smart people tend to be economic and social liberals. ) or, how modern conservatism is a low-status oppositional culture ( https://www.richardhanania.com/p/conservatism-as-an-oppositional-culture )

His best part, and perhaps his most generalisable lesson, is what happened at the last election: High I.Q. tech-bro types went over to Trump, and he thought they'd drag Trump in a smarter direction… nope, Trump and his idiot base dragged them down to their level. ( https://www.richardhanania.com/p/liberals-only-censor-musk-seeks-to ) This is what happens in the UK: An Oxford educated cunt probably doesn't have a below-average I.Q., but he'll act as though he does because that's the direction his coalition is pulled to pander to. On the flip side, Labour is made up of at-least-midwit academic types. Dressing things up in outdated class-based stereotypes (he went to uni, he must be a lib-dem or Tory!! the real working class can't read!) is just one more right-wing strategy to play on the neuroticism of the left.

You can proxy I.Q. to education for the most part (this is more comfortable for lefties provided they can remind themselves that going to university nowadays just means you're young, not that you're middle class) and another chunk of it goes to age, but as that picture shows, there are a lot of young-ish wankers out there. If you're thinking "how can we win them over" instead of "How can we build a coalition of everyone who thinks they're a gaggle of wanker idiots", you're probably going down a sub-par track. (You can't win them over, you're on an imageboard where we swap walls of text, you're precisely the wrong type to do it.)

tl;dr look at party vote by education level, remember we've massively expanded access to uni for younger people of all incomes, and note how uneducated people vote for bad parties. then remember that since uni access has been expanded, the ratio of "doesn't go to uni because they're too poor" to "doesn't go to uni because they're too thick", which used to be tilted all the way to the former, is now much more to the latter.

>>2479435
The 'dogpiling' is what really offends their sensibilities. Don't you know they're a famous British comedian? You should be kissing the ground the walk on, celebrating all those brilliant bits they came up with when they were avant-garde, not reminding them that their best work is older than the average MP and that every day they continue to live tarnishes their legacy further.

>>2479458
The media establishment is a challenge any good comedian would set themselves up against. Half the fun of a risque joke is "how did they get away with that?!", being a big crybaby about it is just embarrassing. It would be embarrassing to cry that you couldn't show sweary-shagging on BBC1 in 1982 and it's embarrassing to cry that you can't poke fun at contemporary social norms in 2025. It's your job! Get to it! If you couldn't come up with Sneed's Feed and Seed, you shouldn't be hoovering up license payer money!

>>2479484
Just as a glib example: Labour lost very badly in 2019. The entire establishment was set up against them. It's hard to overstate how tipped the scales were - even some predictors like "liberals read more" break down because all the newspapers were printing lies. So, How would the election have gone if we'd only counted the votes of people with degrees?
A Labour landslide with vote shares basically matching what Blair got in 1997: 43% Labour, 17% Lib Dem, 29% Tory.
And if only people with a GCSE or less could vote? 58% Tory, 25% Labour, 8% Lib Dem. The closest analogy would be the National Government of 1931.

Saying that the people who voted for Boris Johnson were just idiots is a very vulgar #FBPE thing to say, but it's true! The counterintuitive thing is that the demographic you'd imagine to be anti-Corbyn #FBPE wankers overwhelmingly voted for Corbyn, it's true they also voted Lib-Dem disproportionately, but you've got to remember a huge amount of press energy was dedicated to propagandizing these people against Corbyn and it failed. The main people who fell for the propaganda were uneducated, and it's not a massive leap - especially cross-referencing with age, which is also a strong predictor of who you'll vote for - to say that this is because they are stupid.

That's something worth keeping in mind for any political strategy. You're not going to win over smart people with tactics that appeal to idiots and you're not going to win over idiots with tactics that appeal to smart people. Given the general structure of the media environment, it's much easier to win over smart people capable of independent thinking than it is to win over idiots who'll do what BBC News tells them.

>>2479484
>>2479490
Nah. I think the average person in this country is smart and creative because I talk to them rather than say they are low I..Q behind their back.

>>2479518
Hey S poster

>>2479518
1. There's no such thing as the average person.
2. This is a grotesquely unequal country, whoever you're talking to is subject to massive selection bias (and your impression of their intelligence is obviously influenced by your intelligence. To a moron, the idiot is king. To a genius, the smart guy is a moron.)
3. Idiots are capable of being creative or skillful. Being an idiot doesn't make you worthless, but it is very strongly correlated with having bad politics, particularly socially conservative politics.

Explain why a person would vote for someone like Trump or Farage (both grifters who love to exploit their own bases in a way even Starmer would never dream of - you don't see him flogging gold scams) with more predictive power than "because they're an idiot, attracted to a grifter who is appealing to idiots"

>>2479576
Rightoids have all the money, all the media presence, they have capitalism behind them. Its no wonder some people believe them, its not that they're idiots, but the fact is that propaganda works and the class in power will always indoctrinate the people in a way that benefits them. Also most people do not support Trump or Fagrage, they are 'apolitical' (they feel content with their exploited place in the liberal system). Lastly the main groups supporting the rightoid grifters are petit-bourgeois, not normal workers.

>>2479649
This is a convenient and partially true explanation, but it cannot explain why degree holders overwhelmingly voted Labour in 2019. Smarter people read more, so they should have seen more anti-Labour propaganda than someone who finds reading to be a chore and just watches TV. Yet despite this extra dose of anti-Corbyn propaganda, they overwhelmingly voted for Corbyn.
(The class position of Reform voters is basically incidental in my theory: I have no qualms with the idea that the petit bourgeoisie are idiots.)

>>2479518
The average person I talk to doesn’t know what left wing or right wing mean.

What Britain needs is a new left wing party. Who's with me?


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