It seems the days of collaboration and support between different political groups in the west seems to have almost completely fizzled out. Back in the early 1900s up until like 2020, gays, women, blacks, asians, latinos, communists, anarchists, jews, muslims etc would generally all vote to support each other in the west despite not having much in common besides the fact that all these groups were more or less underground and wanting more institutional power, but with the bourgeoise in the modern day figuring this out and turning everyone against each other, plus these groups have all evolved and articulated themselves to the point of clearly understanding whats needed for their groups to thrive where they are actually naturally separating from each other and competing with each other just as a predictable conclusion. And the effects of this are obvious, blacks hate whites en masse, jews hate muslims and vice versa, women arnt having kids anymore (and this is affecting literally all subgroups) and so on. I know Marx and Lenin argued that the primary division in society is class, not identity but how long can one keep their head in the sand and pretend like were living in 1920 or whatever when groups were atleast willing to collab back then!
>tldr
Its just to old fashioned to try and force all these competing groups in a room to get along, it makes more logistical sense to focus on creating a communist society for 1 subgroup of people only like china or DPRK or whatever
>>2465279>I know Marx and Lenin argued that the primary division in society is class, not identity but how long can one keep their head in the sand and pretend like were living in 1920 or whateverI think you gotta think about "class" as something deeper than what people do when they form unions or socialist parties. "Class" dynamics do not require "class consciousness" to exist. Think of class as like gravity or some other objective process. For example, it might not seem that being gay and having a "class" are the same thing, but the emergence of a gay subculture in cities in the 20th century was not random. It emerged because of industrial capitalism, and working-class gay men could go work in a factory located in or around a major city rather than living in a more isolated farming community where everybody knows your business. The new, modern, developing mode of production actually freed people up to live more autonomous sexual lives, but there was also stigma so you'd have these pockets of working-class gay men carving out neighborhoods in sufficiently large cities. I'm talking about 1960s, 1970s here.
>Its just to old fashioned to try and force all these competing groups in a room to get alongNah, that's the wrong way to look at it. It's material conditions that forces diverse groups into the same "room" whether they like it or not. But you also can't just will people to get along. They will only do so if they feel material pressures force them to cooperate despite their differences. The obstacle isn't the groups themselves but the material structures, economic system, class relations etc. under which they operate.