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>>2473846Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trolls
Not reporting is bourgeois
Violators will be launched from trebuchet
"It is a time for martyrs now, and if I am to be one, it will be for the cause of brotherhood. That's the only thing that can save this country."
–Malcom X
https://erikhoudini.com/weeksasdecadesreadinglist>>247522112 minutes
screencap this
>>2475250>emerging communist organization realizing the limits of existing praxis>wave of reindustrialization leading to the emergence of a new proletarian class those 2 are simply not happening
>integral part of the imperialist orderthe heart of it really
>>2475219Again nobody has to like you or mourn you if you die. Who care? Maybe a bunch of people wouldn’t care if you died and maybe some of them would be glad. That’s not a crime. In fact I think that’s just life.
I’m sure shoeonhead has laughed about and said cruel things about many people who have died violently. I would like to know why she is so shocked that someone might feel the same way about her.
>>2475335shouldve added a bullet chvdjak for extra absurdity
but still, 7.5/10. solid gem
>>2475526>The suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination has been identified as Tyler Robinson, a 22-year-old Utah resident.
>Law enforcement sources told Daily Mail that Robinson was taken into custody as the alleged assassin who killed Kirk at a rally at Utah Valley University in Utah on Wednesday.
>The alleged killer confessed to his father Matt, who is a a 27-year veteran of the Washington County Sheriff's Department, sources told Daily Mail. His father then contacted authorities and secured his son before he could be taken into custody.
>His mother, Amber Robinson, works for Intermountain Support Coordination Services, a company contracted by the state of Utah to help disabled people receive care.
>Robinson was a student at Utah State University on a scholarship, insiders confirmed to Daily Mail.
>The family's social media profiles show Robinson, who has two younger brothers, often enjoying family vacations and sharing smiling selfies, including one of his mother celebrating her 'genius' son getting into college.
>Robinson was taken into custody around 11pm local time in southern Utah on Thursday night. He lives in a $600,000 six-bedroom home in Washington, Utah - about 260 miles south of Kirk's assassination in Orem.
>Officials have yet to confirm a motive to the assassination.
>Authorities said at a press conference on Thursday night that Robinson will face the death penalty if convicted. LADIES AND GENTLEMENT, THEY GOT HIMdamn, bro looks like your average chvd >>2475562son of a law enforcement sheriff
son of a charity director.
was dressed in 2017 with a trump costume for Halloween.
fan of weapon like crazy.
yup, 100% rightwinger.
>>2475546I'd pump her with a few rounds from my 5.56" if you know what I mean
(for avoidance of any doubt, I would have sex with her)
>>2475604I skimmed through. Got to the Vallhalla part.
Can I turn off?
>>2475562THe guy fleeing from the roof had a limp, is the limp explained?
Also, damn. I'd be ready to murdersuicide my family just in case this happens, IED detonator in hand 24/7 for a week. JFC, his conservatard family sold him for peanuts as well. THAT is striking. I can't imagine what sort of subhuman belief system you have to follow to willingly sell your own son to be torturefodder for the Trump admin and their reheated 9/11 farce. OR for 100k.
But then again, Tyler should have never allowed them to live in the first place, if that was the relationship they had.
>>2475666IDK, it's just so surreal that these schizos do everything wrong. Up to, for some reason, thinking they wont get caught by the world hegemon's security state, after taking fuck all measures to prevent it. Like, honestly. Anyone doing this sort of stuff ought to consider their lives over and be prepared to end themselves before being caught. With the possibility of escaping a very distant, unlikely outcome.
I guess it's better than unloading on a school or a mall, but holy shit. It makes me think they are doing this shit on impulse or groomed to do so by glowies who want to keep their job easy.
>>2475622THe "Bullet casing engraving" has become too topical of a trope for me to believe it.
They are lifting it straight from Luigi, whether this is the guy who did it or not. I do not belive a word about "bullet casings".
>>2475690Fucking Valhalla…
Indians are never living this guy down.
>>2475722It's obviously real and the kid totally did it. You don't have to be in denial of the kid being vaguely left-wing. It's not going to stop the right from perceiving what they want, especially when it's actually true lol.
Embrace the zen my dude. The kid was too funny for this world. Give him credit where it's due
>>2475748The absolutely deranged and coordinated, GLOBAL effort to mourn charlie kirk was so inorganic that it definitely radicalized more than a few people.
I understand people like asmon or fox news, but obama? fucking EU parliment? motherfucking BIBI?
Nah bro, these people all got the same marching orders.
>>2475622An up arrow, right arrow, and three down arrows?
Is that a fucking Helldivers 2 reference? It's the inputs to call in a 500kg bomb airstrike
>>2475748>their administration fucking virulently hates them.Buddy, if they run a plane into a building. That is, a single plane into a single building. It will outweight all the class consciousness built by all socialists in the USA and the combined experience of liberalism for three decades.
All the USA needs is one plane and one building, or analogous circumstances, to send the USAnos on a rabid zerg-rush of wherever the government points them to. Be it a cliff, a giant blender or a volcano. They will march like lemmings and kill like Nazis for a plane, and a building.
And not just any building, they'll submit to the most rabid fascism for the building of all the rich people oppressing them as well as all the other poor people they are about to enlist to kill.
>>2475767it's not fucking real
They already claimed the shells had some transgender propaganda on them and had to walk it back after people put 2 and 2 together. Other than the arrows these things are too fucking long for some dipshit to carve them onto a bullet casing, even a .30 06 one.
>>2475762Oswald's boss at the book depository was an anti-bolshevik Russian who was friends with CIA agent George HW Bush and Oswald's soviet expat wife (this letter was written before his "suicide" by which point Bush had become CIA director):
>Dear George, you will excuse this hand written letter. Maybe you will be able to bring a solution into the hopeless situation I find myself in. My wife and I find ourselves surrounded by some vigilantes; our phone bugged and we are being followed everywhere. Either FBI is involved in this or they do not want to accept my complaints. We are driven to insanity by this situation. I have been behaving like a damn fool and since my daughter Nadya died from cancer [?] 3 years ago, I tried to write, stupidly and unusccessfully, about Lee Oswald and must have angered a lot of people – I don't know. But to punish an elderly man like myself and my highly nervous and sick wife is too much. Could you do something to remove this net around us? This will be my last request for help and I will not annoy you any more. Good luck in your important job. Thank you so much.
>g. de mohrenschildtSource:
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/cia/russholmes/104-10414/104-10414-10143/html/104-10414-10143_0006a.htmWhen this letter passed onto Bush's desk at the CIA, his underlings asked if Bush really knew him, and Bush said yes.
>>2475784from your source:
<OSWALD: The principals of thought of the Fair Play for Cuba consist of restoration of diplomatic trade and tourist relations with Cuba. That is one of our main points. We are for that. I disagree that this situation regarding American-Cuban relations is very unpopular. We are in the minority surely. We are not particularly interested in what Cuban exiles or rightists members of rightist organizations have to say. We are primarily interested in the attitude of the U.S. government toward Cuba. And in that way we are striving to get the United States to adopt measures which would be more friendly toward the Cuban people and the new Cuban regime in that country. We are not all communist controlled regardless of the fact that I have the experience of living in Russia, regardless of the fact that we have been investigated, regardless of those facts, the Fair Play for Cuba Committee is an independent organization not affiliated with any other organization. Our aims and our ideals are very clear and in the best keeping with American traditions of democracy.What does any of this have to do with the George De Mohresnchildt connection I keep highlighting and you keep ignoring?
See
>>2475787>>2475795 >>2475820In the United States, around 23% to 25% of adults have a Twitter account.
About half of those actually use their accounts.
About half of those check it regularly.
About half of those get their opinions from twitter.
24/2/2/2=3% of people get their opinions from twitter.
Are you a 3 percenter?
>>2475835He’s moved on.
Civil war is way too hard and he’s got some golf to play
>>2475782This
Zoomers and millennial are jaded.
>>2475963China is playing a cynical game of realpolitik. I don't even think they pay lip service to communism anymore? Would've been nice of Europe had strengthened their bonds with them now the USA is basically hostile towards them but that's a discussion for another thread.
But if China is what Communism looks like then pack it up, this whole communism thing was a failure and it must be abandoned a retaught into something better.
>>2475815Most of these "connections" are CIA revisionism.
>>2475787>Oswald's boss at the book depository was an anti-bolshevik Russian this described pretty much everyone's boss in ameriKKKa. that he was exploited by his enemies is consistent with the fact that he was Communist
it is strange that you ameriKKKans idolize every liberal but most greatly demonize the single Communist shooter, isnt it?
>>2476118CIA cope. Oswald shot the warmonger kennedy for peace because he was Communist.
was sirhan sirhan also cia? you goddamn spook
>>2476129>George De Mohrenschildta snitch. Oswald wasnt a fool, so he told him nothing. it makes sense that snitches would target a known Communist like Oswald, so this association is not damnable evidence.
>>2476140stop responding to me. if someone shot hitler and told the nazis that apprehended them that they didnt do it this would be reasonable
>>2476156I wish. I do not like the fact that we just dealt with several days straight for right wing incitement and calls for violence, blatant racism, dehumanization and bigotry, mass censorship, firings and recriminations against people for simply *disliking* a white nationalist, driven by a straight up lie made by almost all media outlets and the president that this was “leftist political violence” against free speech and open debate.
This was a serious moment, it did change things. The rapid shift in intensity to meek disinterest as it is revealed his politics are exactly what they always most likely were… I don’t think it empowered the right as much it drove deeper skepticism and cynicism across the whole political spectrum.
>>2475968A party organ should be broadly decentralized, relying on small teams of horizontally integrated cadre. These cadre must be capable of operating with minimal contact from the main party organ, which must exist in both legal and illegalist forms. This operational standard allows for a far wider reach for the "party," which is, in the most idealistic sense, "the people"—the mass line applied horizontally.
Effectively, one has 1,000 cells of 3–5 people who share roughly the same beliefs and line of thought/action. These cells cannot be in constant communication with each other, nor can they maintain regular contact with the primary party apparatus. They must apply ideological education to material conditions without direct orders, while understanding that the overarching line, as mandated by the party organ (read: the people), constitutes the direct orders. The organ cannot execute actions itself, but it can produce propaganda; if propaganda does not align with deeds, cells must interpret the organ critically. For example, if the organ states that "ambush tactics such as those used at the ICE facility in Texas are poorly planned and only result in jail time at best," cells must evaluate their own actions accordingly. Similarly, when a report emerges from a tenant-union effort, members elsewhere should assess the weight of that submission.
As the organ grows—through regular contributors, actionists, report-backs, donations (limited to grassroots, from the people), or similar inputs—those contributors may gain administrative rights necessary to create their own segments under the party logo/line/organ framework. The party organ is rhizomatic, adaptive, hydra-like.
Consider a singular party newspaper or analogous media platform, potentially a streaming service or radio station. This infrastructure develops the line, allowing cell members to connect or communicate as needed. Membership is de facto rather than formal; individuals can follow the organ, contribute submissions, call in, engage in discourse, and thereby participate without conventional dues or enrollment.
As the party organ grows—think Iskra in a digital age—responsibility for maintaining primary channels should be decentralized, redundant, and distributed. Leadership is a persona anyone can assume, preventing decapitation attacks from destroying the organ. Its purpose is to build infrastructure to expand cells, which in turn decentralize the organ, spreading like weeds across a field rather than a single tree in a plain. The revolution must be a lived, ground-up experience, not a spectacle to observe or a command to obey.
Even at the initial stage, a strong vanguard is necessary—like the first block of slime mold growth—to establish the line. This line evolves democratically through submissions, contributions, input, and actions from emerging cells. As the mold spreads, centralized elements of the party (read: the people) gain the capacity to call for stronger actions. One cannot call a general strike with only four cells in three cities; such actions become viable only with 1,000 cells in 100 cities actively pursuing the goal.
Cell members must cultivate robust relationships with autonomous mutual aid organizations, such as local Food Not Bombs collectives, Free Fridge initiatives, or even church-based entities when material conditions dictate. These organizations remain autonomous, but durable ties allow cells to contribute labor, creative output, and operational support, while drawing material and social capital from these networks. Members must remain low to the ground—mobile, resourceful, self-sufficient—reinforcing the hydra model of distributed, independent operational capacity.
Material conditions vary drastically across locations, even within a 200-mile radius. Adapting to hyperlocal realities and channeling insights into a larger dual-power structure enables rapid, creative problem-solving: new conditions produce new solutions, which can then inform approaches elsewhere. The old world is rotting; like mold, we must decompose it ourselves.
>>2476243The three arrows thing is definitely from helldivers, I’m confident about that.
The bella ciao thing, since it’s written in the cadence of the whole song, makes me think it’s a some kind of gen zyklon gamer meme but I don’t know enough about this subculture to tell ya.
>>2475545Was a terminally online NEET and transgender/closeted. I got into pretty reactionary 4chan incel shit and started deprogramming after I started my transition. I was able to live off of NEETbux and read a bunch of heavy research into the far-right. All these gangs and fascist cults have ties to Western intelligence and big money. But if you dig enough you find blatant hypocrisy and ties to big money in Liberalism too. Once you eliminate Liberalism and Fascism then you really only have Communism left as the only reasonable choice.
TLDR went schizo but then started deprogramming myself until I started to deprogram my Liberalism too.
>>2476326This is the same rhetorical trick when I'm like "The CIA declassified this coup that liberals denied happened for decades" and then liberals suddenly are like "what you just believe whatever the CIA says?"
>that never happensit has literally happened to me in conversations on here lmfao
>>2476341>the peoples sweatshops>the peoples israeli drones😮
<the peoples Hamas grenade launcher🤬
>>2476371it's true in two senses
1: BJP rules india and they are far right hindutva supremacist freaks
2: right wing indian diasparoids in the west are usually brahmin caste and aligned with BJP in the mother country
3: indians often work in the tech sector and get hired by rightwingers to bot comments sections and manufacture consent
>>2476377>le handshake memeinfantile, let's rewind to something already stated in this thread:
>China is just 1 country in a global capitalist system. You expect them to constantly spit in everyone's face for some moral high ground in a world where they are still surrounded. But they are waiting on you to overthrow your own bourgeoisie, who supply the majority of weapons to Israel.
>>2475285The better question to ask is, will they be :
heterosex(C)u(CK)al
hom(L)ose(R)xual
B(ased)i-sexual
>>2476430>lincolnbecause he suspended habeus corpus, beat the south's ass in a civil war, and passed the emancipation proclamation. not "words."
>MLKbecause poor people's campaign, not "words"
>Jesusbecause he tossed the money lenders from the temple, not "words"
>>2476494You really have to read between the lines but maybe look at Ronald Hutton's "The Triumph of the Moon: A History of Modern Pagan Witchcraft", Spencer Sunshine's "Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege" and Mark Sedgwick's "Against the Modern World: Traditionalism and the Secret Intellectual History of the Twentieth Century". Also look into Bhanwar Meghwanshi's "I Could Not Be Hindu: The Story of a Dalit in the RSS" and maybe Seth Harp's "The Fort Bragg Cartel: Drug Trafficking and Murder in the Special Forces". Also semi-relevant rabbit-holes
https://aristasia.guide/storms and
https://maia.crimew.gay/posts/brg .
IDK I wish I had better sources.
>>2476430>lincolnlincoln was effectively a dictator during the civil war years and suspended basic liberties
>kennedykennedy ordered the invasion of cuba
>mlkmlk was an anti-white agitator
>charlie kirkcharlie kirk was retarded
>jesuschrist should have just followed the law and nothing would have happened
>>2476561The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
>>2476594>>2476592>>2476561People are getting ahead of themselves
>>2476581They really are
>>2476660Tyler Robinson is a hero of the people. There can be no room for debate with the oppressor class. While the president calls for a national day of mourning, Israel kills thousands in Gaza. Why is the life of one white supremacist worth more than half a million Palestinians? Because Charlie Kirk and the oppressor class make good money advocating for the killing. You know what's really, especially pathetic to me? Streamers like Hasan, who spend hours disavowing the radical actions of the people. Why does the media class of the 'left' always come out in lockstep when these actions happen? It's because they are from the same class. To someone like Hasan, the harm that the oppressor does is abstract, he mourns Charlie Kirk because to him, these debates, this media spectacle, is ultimately for a profit motive. To the media class, the harm of a disrupted status quo is immediate and terrifying. Hasan sits in his studio, a palace built on the crumbs of the very system he claims to critique, and his primary function is not to radicalize but to manage radical energy. To channel justified rage into safe, non-disruptive, and ultimately profitable avenues: donations, subscriptions, merch.
This is the ultimate betrayal, to watch a supposed ally, a self-appointed leader of the people mourn this disgusting white supremacist Charlie Kirk. "I was going to debate him in a month!" he screeches, knowing that a line of profit has been silenced. These cats all play with the same ball of yarn, at the expense of the working class. It is the role of the comprador intellectual, the leftist who has been granted a seat at the table on the condition that he explains to the masses why they cannot overturn it. When a Tyler Robinson acts, he makes their comfortable position untenable. He shatters the myth they so carefully cultivate: that change can be won through debate-club performances and voting guides. That the violence the system inflicts upon the working class is the only acceptable form of He exposes their analysis as a parlor game.
The media left, the streamer left, the PMC class, they are not allies. They are the shock absorbers for the system. Their condemnation is not based on a strategic disagreement; it is a class instinct. They must, at all costs, protect the property relations that afford them their platform and their privilege. To them, the death of a white supremacist is a greater sin than a bombed child in Rafah. A disrupted speech is a more visceral threat than a vaporized family.
They speak of "violence" and "optics" because their world is made of images and discourse. They do not live in the world of material consequences, of bulldozed homes and embargoed medicine. Tyler Robinson did not attack people; he attacked the machinery of genocide. He attacked the profit motive. And that is the one sin the professional-managerial class cannot forgive.
The oppressor class hates Tyler Robinson because he was effective. He moved beyond their controlled reformism and struck at the material base of their power, a voice of unfettered hate has been silence, not by debate, not by the ballet, but from where political power really grows, with the barrel of a gun. And the left-media class disavows him because they know, in their gut, that their entire existence is predicated on the premise that such actions are "unthinkable." They must make an example of him to prove their own loyalty to the very system they purport to oppose.
Tyler Robinson is a hero of the people, and the time has come to ask the most essential of questions: "Which side are you on?" Our supposed allies have already answered, and they have chose fast profits and media clout over revolutionary struggle, and for this? We the people cannot forgive.
"Won't you live for the people? Won't you die for the people?" –Fred Hampton
>>2476626damn, I left aside your clip here:
>>2475690 (me)
lmao
deranged people.
>>2476712Not just the cops. They are selling Tyler to be the scapegoat for Trumpism for the 9/11 week psyop. The guy is gonna become the punching bag of every single institution he is put in (most staff are chuds), until/if he gets tortuously executed for the entire country as the scapegoat for "political violence" and the revival of the PATRIOT ACT(which was already in effect with ICE and all the rest of surveillance stuff).
It's less snitching to the cops and more setting your son up for lifelong torture.
May aswell buy a cap and a mug saying "I sent my son to Gitmo for $100k"
>>2476716 (me)
(renewed attack, now PROBE, under the basis of the RICO act)
>“We’re going to look into Soros,” Trump said on “Fox & Friends,” “because I think it’s a RICO case against him and other people.”>“This is real agitation. This is riots on the street. And we’re going to look into it.”
>Open Society Foundation, which was founded by Soros, wrote in August that the group does “not support or fund violent protests,” calling the threats of prosecution “outrageous.”
>Trump has not presented evidence of the claim.
<IT'S DA JOOS >>2476747>We control the narrative who would win: my obscure zine or multibillion dollar media empires?
>if we embrace it.what does this even mean in the context where "the narrative" is whatever the bourgeois media decides? You control the narrative if you embrace what they say?
>>2476760that is my conclusion as well
>>2476751 I just think it's bizarre Literally Whodini thinks he controls the narrative
>>2476726Imagine finding the dark secret in a Mormon suburb
And you are imprisoned into a force assimilation suburban life where you are arranged marriage to a cute Mormon woman that is there to spy on you but you get to cuddle her after Mormon church
>>2476660>>2476682I don't think tyler was
our guy though. the claims on the encasings? no evidence presented so far about that (note the plural: how? why? if the guy did one single shot).
I think he was a rightwinger trying to get a hashtagcivilwar, hashtagracewar.
>>2476816>The dad is so depraved. I'm so disgusted.IKR? It's like, if I was to weight assassinating people in general (for any reason) and the behavior of Tyler's father on a scale of which one speaks the worst of a society… the father would win by a mile. He doesn't even have the excuse of having a bad relationship, his son confided on him and he betrayed his son's trust and figuratively sent him to Gitmo… for nothing.
Incredible subhuman behavior. Just a complete fucking dullard betraying that there isn't a single original thought in his head. His son's no doubt pleas, simply do not compute in this abhorrent NPC's programming. He just listens and obeys his liberal owners. No thinking necessary on his part.
>>2476880When yesterday companies were firing people who social media posts I noticed all the commenters were saying the first amendment only applies to the government. Now the government is doing it so I guess the response will be “well, clearly the government can censor speech it deems dangerous.”
I mean we just live in a lawless time where we just don’t assume we have well protected civil rights.
>>2476960No, I wouldn't turn my son in if he killed a nazoid. What the hell is wrong with you retards
>MUH MORAL PRINCIPLESHoly lib
>>2476960This isn't nepotism retard. This is life and death
He's getting the chair
>>2476992It
means that you're stuck in the rape cock and ball torture chamber, and you'll
never get out.
>>2477007Retarded equivalent. If there was an existent communist government and my son ended up being an anti-revolutionary ,and worse, killing somebody integral to it. I would not at all hesitate to hand him over.
Are you an Anarchist? Anarchist also have a rule of law you know.
>>247704There's a crucial detail I read in a news article, where the father first told the son to turn himself in but the son did not immediately do so. Then the father went to a Pastor, and the father confessed to him, who then told him to keep the son in place. It was the Pastor who ultimately alerted the spooks.
>>2477047>>2477053Do you think family is more important than Communism? Yes or no, then I will shut up
>>2476960if I had to choose between nepotism and snitching I would… well it depends on the context, doesn't it? Like everything. No one size fits all solution, eh?
>>2476712His dad literally was a cop, so of course he did that shit. Kid lived in a $600,000 house in Utah, Mormon Central, Spook city. Mormons used to make up like 25% of the CIA in the 60s.
>>2476963I don't know if that Vorlander quote is real because there are many moments in Capital where Marx writes with a clear and obvious tone of disgust and moral indignation over how the working class is treated, particularly children.
>>2477079and the worst is yet to come.
>>2477082right-wing idpoling will be his own undoing.
>>2477087yeah. i don't know. he wrote some left shit on his bullets.
skip to 2:21
>>2477078>Marx writes with a clear and obvious tone of disgust and moral indignation over how the working class is treated, particularly children.Yeah, but his argument isn't based solely on morality. He provides clear, material explanations for what is going wrong and how it hurts workers and children, and then concludes that it should be considered morally wrong as well. Having your child be a slave in a family was considered normal but Marx explained how it's bad and how his communist ideology whatever you want to call it, would destroy this particular family foundation even if it is considered wrong. If you base your argument on morals, you're a dumb-dumb, because morals change and can be drastically different depending on the society and the individual. Being a Nazi is morally wrong, but that's not the only issue with being a Nazi, is it? We know it's wrong because of the physical and mental harm they inflicted on people, especially the marginalized, having them work to death, stealing form the workers to give to the privileged when viewed through a material lens.
>>2477085>apparently he was some sort of leftist who broke with his republican family>who brokeyeah, sure. that's why the fbi and kash patel are flooding the media with the guy strong
inexistent connections with the leftism in fox news, newsmax, and truthsocial, and their only thing they talked about was some bullet casings that they haven't shown to the public.
>>2477095do you think a CEO dying changed anything? do you think kirk's death changed anything?
ceo was replaced in 24 hours.
Palestinians will be dying even if you decapitate 50 more kirks.
>>2477084The tweet saying he was a groyper cited police reports/interviews but didn't post or link to any, I don't think anyone has officially said anything. The only quote from his family I saw was that he'd "become more politically active." Which is maybe intentionally vague.
But personally I have a hard time believing a groyper would target Charlie Kirk (may he burn in Hell for all eternity). Other than the convenience factor of like, "Well he's coming to my campus so I guess I'll take him."
>>2477090None of what he wrote suggest he's a leftist
Ziggers have Soviet symbols on their tanks, that doesn't make them leftists
>>2477105>hey fascist! catch!>bella ciaothose are pretty lefty things
>>2477109yeah. the fbi could be lying
>>2477103>do you think a CEO dying changed anything?Not him. Yeah it helped people get healthcare because these shitheads at the top panicked.
>do you think kirk's death changed anything?It destroyed Charlie's arguments. Forever. I don't think he is going to recover from this.
>Palestinians will be dying even if you decapitate 50 more kirks.Well, there are other people whose deaths would definitely benefit Palestinians.
>>2477131It is also explicitly an anti fascist folk song, that was used in tangent with “Hey fascist! Catch”. Hence the probably.
>>2477135That was a gopnik meme, and it does not necessarily relate to pepe the frog.
>>2477136Helldivers is satire
>>2477141This is the correct answer to be honest
>>2477116It is funny as hell though. Watching the eager culture war recruits expose themselves and their otherwise total disconnect from the
topics they are now enthusiastically tackling. Like the ones thinking tracksuits and "slavsquats" are a groyper invention, or mistaking Helldivers memes for 20th century political references.
And this is all very important because someone must correct the record on Twitter. And then "we win", or something.
>>2477139good catch, and yes:
https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/12/Tyler-Robinson-Charlie-Kirk-suspect-shooting-facts/>"Bella Ciao" is an Italian song with antifascist roots from World War II that have made it a popular resistance song in various international contexts. Commentators, including journalists, also said it has been used in the World War II-themed video game "Hearts of Iron IV" and has sometimes been adopted, in an ironic way, by far-right groups.that's why I am pretty convinced this is a groyper, and why now that is captured, the fbi, kash patel, and the rest are silent, and shifted to "pray for his
white soul".
>>2477135The Pepe came after the Gopnik, retard. Do you think everyone wearing a black dinner suit is larping as this Apu?
Commit suicide TODAY you absolute spaz.
>>2477124I actually think it's pretty obscure in the US, (my barometer is that I personally have only heard it once), but regardless I think he picked it up from videogames somehow. HOI or mapgames explanation makes sense.
The fact that everything on the casing is just trolling and shitposts make it hard to say "THIS one we need to take on it's face… only the first part on its face. Ignore the helldivers meme that's clearly insincere."
>>2477152well, that's what this
>>2477136 anon is talking about, that's Hell Divers.
look, the guy was living in a $600,000 6 bedroom house. guy simply had his brain melted with burgerkulture.
>>2477154>but regardless I think he picked it up from videogames somehow. HOI or mapgames explanation makes senseProbably. Still not enough to deem them a groyper though.
>The fact that everything on the casing is just trolling and shitposts make it hard to say "THIS one we need to take on it's face… only the first part on its face. Ignore the helldivers meme that's clearly insincere."
If they wanted it to be deeper than face value, they probably would’ve made a manifesto as well.
>make it hard to say But certainly not impossible. And the assassination itself makes that pill much easier to swallow. The groyper talk is most likely people just being extra.
>>2477160>that's Hell DiversWhich is satire
>‘the guy was living in a $600,000 6 bedroom house. guy simply had his brain melted with burgerkultureQuite the dismissal to make. One that leaves too much to the wind.
>>2477168Okay but Redditors think Helldivers is just unironically cool, and the classmate said he was just a Redditor.
Straight up people spend so much time dissociating in map games and military sims that yeah it does just give people beef-brain.
>>2477173>Okay but Redditors think Helldivers is just unironically coolSome redditors
>Straight up people spend so much time dissociating in map games and military sims that yeah it does just give people beef-brain.Those people already had beef brain before they even picked up the controller. We will not do the video game violence shit.
>>2477103>do you think a CEO dying changed anything?It immediately lead to 1 dead ceo, the reversal of his policies, and had such an impact on the companies profits that shareholders sued.
>do you think killing one archduke changed anything?Fucking retard.
>>2477182explain to me, you twat, how does it matter that the house is his father's when the fucker is a 22 yo, in college?
how's that relevant? do you understand he's an upper-middle classer?
>>2477189> the reversal of his policiesyou better back that up.
>do you think killing one archduke changed anythingbetter start killing some hundreds more, because right now this is Gaza:
>>2477197>Except online the reactionary cope is that "fascist" just means that "the left" hates you for not respecting their pronounsThis is reaching. Generally, I see them embrace the label or switch topics instead.
>and in the context of helldivers you fight "fascist insects" in the name of super democracy.Again, Helldivers is satire, and the label fits as well.
>>2477202>says, the messages are intentionally incoherent, they mean nothing at allTo you, sure. But the message adds up to me.
>he's ragebaiting everyoneNothing they did or have written down makes me feel ragebaited or makes me think it was intended to rage bait me.
>>2477204Another dismissal.
>incoherent politicsPeople with incoherent targets generally shoot up schools and crowds of random people, not specific political targets like charlie Kirk.
>>2477103A healthcare company wasn't go to cover anesthesia anymore
They quickly changed their mind after the luigi situation
>>2476682>Tyler Robinson is a hero of the people.Retard, the guy was a literal byproduct of this fucked debate-bro white nationalist producing system. The guy literally stands on the same side as Kirk but the
more batshit insane neo-nazi Christo-fascist side, ie the true fascist base.
>The oppressor class hates Tyler Robinson because he was effective.No they don't. They literally changed their tune mid sentence as soon as they found out he was like them (part of a reactionary white petty-bourgeois privileged class). The shooter is no threat to them because rubes like Robinson can be easily pushed to carry out violence against their enemies than themselves with very little effort and change to their narrative. Kirk getting shot is not some defiant act against the system, it is a bloody metamorphosis of the system as it births more violent reactionaries that have no qualms excising the "center-right" in order to further cultivate a more militant fascist base.
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