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A lot of anti-fascist rhetoric can get boiled down to "punch a nazi".

While we all know the right thrives on violence, but does the repetition of phases like above just further cement violence as the norm? Does that make us violent reactionaries just the same?

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>>2475850
If you wanna make an omelette, You're gonna have to crack a few eggs, Jack. Revolutions aren't made wearing white gloves.

"are words as actively bad as actual actions" yes please die

>>2475854
Violence always leads to more violence. If we accept that as the default mode of political expression, is there any difference between ideologies if violence has to be normalized for it to even exist?

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Violence is good actually

If everypony were violent, world would be better place

>>2475863
>>2475863
>is there any difference
Yeah? What are you a fucking christian or something? pacifism isn't left-wing…

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Maybe Georges Sorel has the answers

>>2475850
>morals and philosophizing
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anyway antifa and sloganeering are retarded either way so

>>2475866
>pacifism isn't left-wing…
leftwing is an almost meaningless umbrella term

>>2475863
bro this shit is not even coherent. how does non-violence individuates leftist ideology? maybe you are lost? here, follow this link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/50501/

There’s a difference between meaningless violence and revolutionary revenge, a man that enacts capital punishment of a serial killer is not the same as being the serial killer

>>2475876
>revolutionary revenge
just saying words lol

>>2475871
>leftwing is an almost meaningless umbrella term
Well, we're on a "leftwing" website, you can tell because it's got "left" in its name. So you're just gonna have to assume what that means in this context.

>>2475883
>we're on a "leftwing" website, you can tell because it's got "left" in its name
its just a legacy thing :)

theres nothing that contradicts being a pacifist from being a leftoid anyway, thats the fun thing about ideologies, you can mix and match them to your hearts content unlike with communism

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>>2475850
Philosophers have been debating this in circles for ages. My own take is that violence should be only a last resort, as which point it becomes a necessary evil. Glorifying violence, especially for its own sake, makes you a shitty person - but there’s no shame in laughing at an evil person getting got, or in realizing when you have no option. Shit sucks and sometimes there’s nothing you can do.

>>2475850
>violence is inherently reactionary
fuck off back to wherever you came from and read a fucking book once in your life you moron

>>2475866
Violence has its place, especially when already living under violent/forceful conditions of existence.

But when does it stop?

>>2475897
>>2475901
Violence is an intrinsic part of life, it is neither good nor bad, it simply is and will continue to be.

>>2475905
One would hope that in the goal to striving for some kind of Utopia, violence wouldn't be needed as a form of control. It's entirely defeatist to just throw up you hands and accept it as a default part of human nature that can never be squashed.

>>2475897
>Philosophers have been debating this in circles for ages
thats literally all philososhitters ever do

>>2475915
>striving for some kind of Utopia
communism is a practical movement, not about retarded ideals

>>2475915
>>2475915
>the goal to striving for some kind of Utopia
Well, I'm not concerned with that.
>part of human nature
I also never said that, nor did I intend to imply it.

>>2475860
standing here

>>2475905
See, I don’t buy that. Lots of things are “part of life.” That doesn’t mean that lying down and taking it passively makes for a *good* one. Imagine if we said the same about disease

>>2475917
Violence does serve as a practically means towards and end, but again, when does it end.

Even if we hit some form of communism, I don't want to live surrounded by violent individuals that inherently just want power themselves.

>>2475936
>>2475936
>lying down and taking it passively makes for a *good* one
What part of "neither good nor bad" don't you understand? It's an inevitability all the same.

>>2475946
>I don't want to live surrounded by violent individuals that inherently just want power themselves.
Simple solution, stop being an idealist.

>>2475964
Nope, I won't let nihilism and defeatism take hold just because I won't bury my head in the sand of materialism. I don't want to be controlled by violence forces, even if they are "on my side".

>>2475961
Then why are you involved in politics at all?

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>>2475850
>>2475867
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1946/violence.htm

>>2475976
Because politics is about more than just moralizing violence?
>>2475974
You are quite literally admitting that you are not serious.

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>>2475850
>Don't you know? Incivility is worse than villifying minorities and promoting the largest single atrocity of the 21st Century. You need to bend over and kiss the Right's ass. Remember, they can lie to you and about you whenever they want and you're just going to have to take it. When they go low, we go high! Communism = Naziism, Malcolm X = David Duke, Hitler = Stalin, Remember, if you punch a Nazi, that make you no better than them!
Rot in Hell alongside Charlie Kirk you craven apologist piece of shit. Take your "Dead Centrist" schtick and shove it up your ass until it comes out of your mouth.

>>2476164
>muh villifying minorities
I hate liberals so much it's unreal

Is it not violent when the state allows people to starve to death and die of curable illness? this society was always violent.

>>2475982
ah yes the famous Amadeo 'acksually its anti-imperialist to support hitler, supporting the USSR makes you the real fascist' Bordiga

please kill yourself, nazi

Dude, just kill the reactoids LMAO

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>>2476330
>ah yes the famous Amadeo 'acksually its anti-imperialist to support hitler, supporting the USSR makes you the real fascist' Bordiga
[reddit space r/Thedeprograms out]
>please kill yourself, nazi

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>>2476330
>le svpport meme
>no U are the nazi


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