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>>2484231Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2485594elements of qing china
elements of tsarist russia
but at the same time, burgerreich decline is its own unique beast unlike anything seen before
>>2485614> "Freedom of Speech doesn't mean Freedom from Consequences"Also absurd seeing MAGA people using this
exact phrase word for word with no sense of irony
>>2485618It's easy once you recognize it's literally pure resentment. They recognize the absurdity in it, it's literally just power games.
Like there was this interview with I think a conservative political scientist (more of a realist in that he recognizes the absurdity and limits of Trumpism IIRC) and he was just kind of pointing out: "Well, the Gulf of America. Libs started the trend of renaming things."
Unironically you'll end up with Conservatives parroting the "Paradox of Tolerance" shit back at libs past a point: "if we tolerate your intolerance for conservative thought we'll lose our right to have a tolerant society" or some bizarre expression.
>>2485624That tends to be how these things go.
I think Americans are ultimately kind of "libertarian" in that we really don't like people telling us what to do. We also get into sports team kind of rivalries and shit so you'll get someone who starts with "Man these libs/cons are annoying" then identify with one team to push back, and then when they win they're convinced that this is the way things are gonna be
forever and start annoying everyone with their excesses, at which point the other side gets a chance and makes the same fucking mistakes.
Obama social progressivism ("Demographics are Destiny") gave way to an irreverent right wing counter culture which developed into weird fascism which in turn will likely lead to irreverent liberalism and then this continues again and again.
>>2485609We could run it like it's MMA. You can bet for
>whether it'll be decision, submission, KO, etc>what round it'll be >who wins (obviously lmao)For death pools we could use this format:
>who it'll be>by what means>where/context>aproximate dateMy personal bet is Nick Fuentes by handgun shot to the chest in his house before October 2026.
>>2485637I know, I cannot wait for nu-nu-atheism to become a thing.
>>2485645Given how the Trump administration wants to turn this country into a dictatorship this time around I don't think we're going to see that cycle continue.
>>2485634Very few free speech absolutists are actually free speech absolutists.
You know as a former /pol/cel there's something I've discovered: the majority of rightoids are of course just bullies but there's a minority of them that actually believe in an specific right-wing talking point (or several of them)and become disillusioned when they realize that they're the only one in the group that actually believed in something and isn't just using whatever available talking point as a means to power.
Back in the day I used to actually believe right wing stuff was just about being harsh on crime and that the slurs were just jokes that the libs took too seriously. Imagine how heartbroken I was when I realized that both those things were false lmao.
Out there there's an actual honest to god free speech absolutist seeing the other ones celebrate censorship and finally figuring out just what kind of people he was hanging out with.
>>2485633Have that discussion with Mike Huckabee. He's the one who worships Jews as magical fairies from the Bible.
>>2485658Aw shit here we go again *dons fedora*
>>2485681>the theory that israel had him killed is ridiculous.Doubly so because of Israel rushing itself to give ammo to the rightoids on this theory. Netanyahu may aswell start addressing the schizos directly starting his speeches with "IF I did it…". But it's a useful conspiracy theory, unlike more generally the ZOG.
Or to use a different example. One appeals to the values which aid the Palestinian cause among NATOids. If you told them the truth: That without an Israel to enforce their bourgeoisie's bidding in MENA their states would face enormous economic hardships and would likely be the nail in the coffin for their side of the cold war. And would unleash a last ditch effort to militarily intervene and keep MENA under NATO. And would probably enhance the nascent fascism in their countries and put them against the ropes on choosing *which* bloody revolution they want, instead of *if* …
Well nobody there would be pro-Palestine. They'd pinch their noses and talk about two states.
They have to think that their governments can just drop the issue. That it's a malicious lobby, or atlanticist influence or some other non-materialist explanation. That they can safely press the issue without destroying the system that sustains their oft invoked "way of life".
>>2485658>Given how the Trump administration wants to turn this country into a dictatorship this time around I don't think we're going to see that cycle continue.Eh, the CPUSA tried to warn people but no one gave a fuck. Now I'm sure the folks that said they wont do popular front shit 'cause its revisionist or whatever will do their militant revolution like they said they were.
Just kidding, they'll be fighting ghosts all the way to the camps.
>>2485708This is what American voters want tho. It's not like Israel tricked the public into supporting genocide. The public already supports genocide, Israel just gives them an excuse.
We need to acknowledge that Americans are a deeply reactionary and violent culture.
>>2485706>I'm only gonna start worrying for real when things that haven't happened happen so that way I won't have to do anything right nowwhen elections get canceled you'll just go
>okay elections got canceled but I'll worry when [thing that hasn't happened at that point] and it'll be like that all the way to the firing squad
>>2485712>>2485717Literally just completely incorrect interpretations of data.
I said this ages ago but you get this annoying thing when you talk to libertarians where they justify capitalist exploitation with like, an example I heard is, "McDonalds will pay you $X/hour to flip burgers, if you're signing a contract you're saying $X is worth more than your hour, so don't say you don't *want* to work for McDonalds because if that was true you'd quit :^)"
People really don't see others, politically, as people and dealing with all the contradictions and incorrect assumptions that come with that. It's all "you work at McDonalds because you want to, despite what you say."
>>2485668>Have that discussion with Mike Huckabee. He's the one who worships Jews as magical fairies from the Bible.>>2485767>If a certain group of people are receiving special treatment, why would you get upset at them for accepting it? Shouldn't you be more upset at the more powerful group of people who are dispensing said special treatment?How can't I hate both? Why do you guys have to always run cover for them.
>I am unhappy by the powerful international organization of Jews that have an obscene level of control over politics in America, Britain, and the West as a whole.<Ummm you are saying that you don't like Jewish Zionists, so you are saying you love Evangelical Zionists?That's a whole new sentence bitch.
>>2485803completely fake irish statistics (((you))) shill
>>2485807another distraction created by the eternal eireling
>>2485768ah, well, the ghost of McCarthy is well, and alive.
>>2485761lmao. "everyone I don't like comes from…" it's the silliest shtick he retort to when he wants to steamroll on his opponents.
>>2485717last time I saw, non-voters (or no-party-aligned people) don't want socialism. stretching that idea, one could assume the issue of genociding other people's nations isn't an issue for them.
>>2485708>>2485712I've said it multiple times, the most revolutionary thing you can do, is to leave the US.
>>2485807>>2485811I wish I could snap my fingers and teleport every single Jewish person to another Earthlike planet far away, not to satisfy the people who hate them, but to show them exactly how little the world would change with them gone, how capitalism and imperialism would still exist, how the zionists settlements would quickly be occupied by Christian zionists instead, how the genocide would continue, how all the divisive media bullshit and financial speculation would continue. Yes, death to zionism and Israel, obviously, but the mode of production exists independent of Jewish supremacists, Jewish capitalists, and Jewish lobbyists.
I wish I could repeat the experiment with every single (them) group until people start to get the picture that there is this thing called a mode of production, and it is capitalism.
this is somehow controversial on lefty pol >>2485615>>2485737by the way,
bernie sanders backed the vote.
>>2485847It would be a little wholesome chungus social democracy with a sovereign fund heavily invested in a bunch of shady shit. Jewish international image and relations remain good but they suffer from skin cancer quite a bit.
>>2485851George Floyd shares a birthday with Kirk, it's going to be National Troll's Day kek
Citizens of left of /pol/ I have created a new current to end capital - negative proletarianism. Deng had it right but stopped because he cares about the workers, but the workers are evil, they don't start the revolution - they benefit from capital exploiting them because they are masochist and ignorant. The bourgeoisie may be ignorant but they have the means to end capital. Citizens of left of /pol/ accumulate CAPITAL and join the world market economy so we can bond together and bring about the end of class society FROM ABOVE.
>>2485852No I think its from fucking Jamaica or something lmao Idk. I just pulled it up from google images searching "tropical jews".
>>2485861someone will till to rick scott, and they'll change the date.
bernie will still vote in favor of it.
>>2485889It's easy to say lock up all your enemies and feed them antipsychotics
But are you brave enough to say lock up the entire USA and feed them antipsychotics?
>House Speaker Mike Johnson held a "private meeting" with AIPAC and Jewish leaders on Wednesday on Capitol Hill wherein he reportedly pledged to screen out "isolationist" (see: anti-Israel) GOP candidates "to prevent that wing of the party from growing larger in the House."
>Rep. Tim Walberg (R-MI), who was also part of the meeting, revealed "he’d been texting recently with Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt about the proliferation of antisemitic conspiracy theories about the killing of influencer Charlie Kirk," Jewish Insider reported.
>Though nearly all the participants remained mum on what went down, Rep. David Kustoff (R-TN) tweeted out an image of the room and you can make out many of the participants, including several Jewish Insider declined to name
>CUFI's Sandra Hagee Parker is on the left in yellow, and to her left is Rabbi Levi Shemtov.
>Above Shemtov is Mort Klein from the Zionist Organization of America (who is helping the Trump admin w/ their anti-Semitism crackdown).
>RJC's Norm Coleman can be seen on the far right.
>Sandra Hagee Parker put out a vague statement on Instagram (along with the attached picture) about the meeting which said that Speaker Johnson will go down in history for having "ensured that America's greatest friend and ally had the resources she needed, in her darkest hour, to fight our collective enemies."
>"And to those who think we cannot 'afford' to help Israel, I assure you, the Bible teaches us the opposite is true," she added.
>You can clearly make out Rep. Randy Fine (R-FL) in the picture, as well as Rep. Tim Walberg on the right.
>>2485955That would be a pretty extreme move that the democrats would have to be insane to tolerate.
So the odds are probably 50/50.
Here's a clip from one of the church services — Prestonwood Baptist in TX.
As the pastor, Jack Graham, makes clear, this is not an actual clip of Charlie Kirk. He never said these words. This is an entirely AI-generated fabrication that, nonetheless, garners a standing ovation.
https://xcancel.com/jackmjenkins/status/1968660015679525311#m>>2486006>>2486006>deaths is not the end, it's a promotion.damn, I want to promote the entire US elite.
anyway, those people are highly deranged.
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