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For the last 70+ years, American leftism has been dominated by the "New Left," which was shaped by writers like C. Wright Mills and Herbert Marcuse. They believed that the traditional working class had been bribed into complacency by postwar material abundance, and there was no hope of them ever leading a revolution on their own. Therefore, the socialist vanguard must be driven by an alliance of student intelligentsia and marginalized minority groups like the Black Power movement.

To what extent was this a) true at the time, b) still true or NOT now, and c) should or how can we move past this?

Fuck "Le Left," long live communism!

>>2486841
>the traditional working class had been bribed into complacency by postwar material abundance
the Zionist USA fourth reich has genocided more people than nazi Germany

>>2486867
>refusing to work with the tories and reform
>refusing to work with people who hate trans people
>refusing to work with people who work for gas companies
>refusing to work with zionists

i got a lot of problems with idpol and the modern western left™ but this is fucking nothing

>>2486841
<American leftism
Died in 1950 and was lost forever. Many people dont know how progressive Americans used to be due to decades of anti-communist propaganda.

>>2486865
read a fucking history book retard faggot.
communism gets its literal name from the Paris Commune, you know from the fucking french revolution, because it is a direct fucking development of the french revolution's ideas and theory

you know what also came from the french revolution

LEFT WING AND RIGHT WING TERMINOLOGY

because the monarchists sat on the right side of french parliament/whateverthefuck it was called, and the republicans (in the sense of being for a democratic republic, not in the sense of american conservatism) sat on the left.

SO YES, COMMUNISM IS VERY MUCH FUCKING 'leftist' BECAUSE IT IS ANTI-MONARCHY

YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT

I reject this notion of an unwinnable working class because they have it too good.
The most militant wing of the SPD in the pre-socdem-betrayal era were diamond cutters and other extremely well paid workers.
It is not an absolute obstacle.

Furthermore, this analysis is dead in the water in its organisational claims. You cannot create a vanguard party made up of just the intelligentsia and most oppressed minorities, emphasis on their numerical minority. That is by definition not a vanguard, and you cannot have a communist revolution with just a small minority of the working class. Even aside from my rejection of it, if I concede the point that the american working class was paid off, it would only mean that it is not possible to build a vanguard, and it is not possible to drive towards open class conflict, and your focus would ought to be to unite all the intelligentia into a party with the purpose of self-education, preservation, research and material and logistical support to those in countries where the working class is organizable.

To understand what really was the problem, we need to look to Lenin. A revolutionary situation is one where the proletariat is unwilling to go on, but also, where the bourgeoisie is unable to go on within it's system. It requires both the subjective organization and conciousness of the working class, which as history has shown us is not inversely proportional to how bad people have it, but it also requires a fundamental systemic crisis which the bourgoiesie is unable to solve within its own structures, leading to open bourgoies conflict with each other.

The problem with the USA is that, as with all imperial core countries, the >bourgoiesie< has it too good, they have too much power, there is more than enough room for expansion. They have all the money in the world to spend on extensive anti-communist programs, to sabotage the left. It is precisely because of that, that Lenin points out socialism is more likely in the periphery. There, the bourgeois powers have far less money, wealth, room for growth. There, they come into conflict with each other far more. This leads to weaker central power and room for the working class to organize.

It was exactly the fact that the democrats and republicans have been essentially the same party for decades, that has allowed the US state to suppress communists. When were US communists strongest? When the USA was in deep financial crisis during the great depression, and the bourgeoisie was fighting each other trying to take control in a new way to their own benefit.

We now see the unified front of the US weakening, first after occupy, when the social democrats started to ween off, now in the past decade we see the open conflict between the neoliberal conglomorate shareholder clique under the democrats and the fascistic, more nationally oriented clique supported mainly by owners of industry concerned with competition with other blocks or the need for hard resource aquisition. Oil firms, Tesla with its need for lithium, emergent big tech competing with Chinese competitors, they clash with corporations and shareholders of corporations which already have a global foothold and benefit more from the neoliberal world order, clashing over the best way forward in their geopolitical maneuvering. It is intensifying now that China is putting on more pressure, India is becoming a capitalist power of its own, and Europe is slowly forming more cohesion within the EU than between the EU and the USA.

This is the reason we have more room now, more opportunities to mavouvre, more people willing to listen to what we have to say. It is not that their standard of living is dropping that causes more interest in communism, the US system itself is in a systemic crisis it cannot solve, and as a consequence, it is becoming politically divided, and as a consequence, the hegemonic ideological control weakens as the central authority of the bourgoiesie weakens. Standards of living dropping is just another consequence of the systemic crisis. US standards of living have been dropping ever since Reagan in the 70s. Did this increasingly lead to more radical communist politics? No! In fact, the 70s and 90s are notorious for its pro-capitalist zeitgeist. Because the bourgoiesie was feasting as never before. When did this zeitgeist stop? When the bourgoiesie itself faced a systemic crisis in 2007, and this crisis has only compounded.

>>2486865
"I'm not a conservative, I'm a libertarian!"

>Marcuse
CIA slop.

>>2487053
yes we know

>>2487576
I don't actually and I'd like to know more.

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>>2487621
He worked for the OSS (the predecessor to the CIA) during the war as an expert on Nazi ideology. I always found it strange that MLs malign him for this but they usually leave out what he was actually doing for them.


Another plot twist is that Xi Jinping is a Herbert Marcuse fan and read him when he was young, so I suppose Marcuse had been translated into Chinese awhile ago.

>In his youth, Xi read "One-Dimensional Man" by Herbert Marcuse. Seeing the drawbacks of a "one-dimensional" human existence caused by the encroachment of capital in Western modernization, Xi has always hoped to address the imbalances between material and spiritual needs, and between humans and nature. China is committed to the coordinated development of material, political, spiritual, social, and ecological civilizations. Xi refers to this as the distinctive characteristic of the "modern civilization of the Chinese nation."

https://english.news.cn/20240204/9c9ebce2dd5d4f9cb0c86d8784f5b749/c.html

>>2486841
That's out of date
Since 2012 we've recognized that the American vanguard is autistic political theory nerds and trans women.

That's not the takeaway I ever took from Marcuse. They were critical of the optimism of an incoming revolution, but they weren't "the working class are dumbasses, only the third world can save us!" Maoism was popular at the same time, so there might have been some conflation of the two.

That's more of the position of the social democrats, who believe that the working class cannot lead themselves and need some sort of vanguard of intellectuals leading them.

>>2486841
>the traditional working class had been bribed into complacency by postwar material abundance, and there was no hope of them ever leading a revolution on their own. Therefore, the socialist vanguard must be driven by an alliance of student intelligentsia and marginalized minority groups like the Black Power movement.

That's not really what happened. The American working class were not bribed into complacency, the American working class were engaged in a long and bitter class war and they lost the war in the 1920s when the American labor movement was destroyed, long before World War 2. The temporary period of prosperity of the white American working class post-WW2 came from the New Deal reforms, not from America's newfound wealth magically trickling down to the working class.

I think as America spirals toward economic ruin and the white American middle class continues to shrink, more and more white people will find themselves working at Wal-Mart or Amazon warehouses or other shitty low-paying jobs and living in perpetual poverty and getting beat up by the cops and thrown in jail a lot, and then maybe these racial divisions will begin to fade and you'll finally see some real solidarity movements begin to form.

>>2488909
>>2488879
<they lost the war in the 1920s
more like the 30s? 30s were probably the peak of socialism / communism in the USA

>student intelligentsia
That's an oxymoron. You can't be both.

>>2487671
wtf i love marcuse now!?

>>2488928
Labor saw a brief revival in the 1930s, but the American labor movement never fully recovered from the damage was already done in the 1920s when the federal goverment aligned itself with big business and labor in America was decimated by a combination of state-sanctioned violence and an extremely effective state propaganda campaign denouncing the unions and the organizers as un-American Red Bolshevik scum and turning the American public against the labor movement forever.

>>2487047
I wish there were more posters like this anon on this shit board

>>2487044
Are anti-monarchist fascists leftists?

>>2487044
Communism is not “anti-monarchy” nor does it abide by any other categories of political liberalism

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>>2488980
last thing u see before getting slimed out in Yekaterinburg

>>2486865
We control the means of production!!!!!


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