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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Marx is more poetic, more aggressive. Marx's writing is dense, theoretical, and often philosophical. He employs complex, abstract concepts, and his tone can be polemical, especially when critiquing political economy or capitalism. Marx’s style is rigorous, dissecting systems with precision and often incorporating historical materialism to support his arguments. His texts, are marked by long sentences, layered analysis, and a critical, sometimes inaccessible, tone.

Engels, in contrast, tends to write in a more accessible and straightforward style. While he is equally intellectual, Engels’ works often have a more practical, pamphleteering quality. His language is clearer and less convoluted, with an emphasis on clarity and popularization of Marxist ideas. Engels is also more willing to engage in rhetorical persuasion, making his writing more digestible for a broader audience, as seen in works like The Condition of the Working Class in England.

When Engels wrote Principles of Communism, he took the style of a straightforward Q&A. After Engels wrote Principles of Communism, it was suggested that the style of a "catechism" be abandoned and a "manifesto" drawn up instead. This is why Marx and Engels ended up co-authoring the Communist Manifesto. But reading through the Manifesto and Principles back to back, the Manifesto seems less accessible, and Principles more straightforward. Manifesto has more of a call to action, but it is also more historically bound by the time it was written, while Principles seems more timeless.

Principles of Communism was written by Engels as a more systematic outline of Communist ideas in response to a question posed by the German Workers' Educational Society. It is a concise, theoretical treatise that lays out the basic principles of Communism, offering a clear framework of ideas, focusing on topics like historical materialism, class struggle, and the abolition of private property. It's more of a primer on Communism.

The Communist Manifesto, co-authored by Marx and Engels, is more dynamic, political, and revolutionary. It’s a direct call to arms, aimed at a broader audience, including workers and intellectuals. While it builds on the ideas in Principles, it is less abstract, emphasizing immediate political action, the inevitability of class struggle, and the need for revolution. The tone is urgent and rhetorical, designed to rally workers and challenge the existing order.

Both are lost to time and their ideas will never be seriously considered as workable economic systems by the west in modern times.

Oh definitely, I figured that's why Marx had Engels help him with editing.

Marx was an intellectual, Engels was kind of dumb but his heart was in the right place. His writing is much more simple

Marx' writing style does require some effort on the reader's side. Personally i dont find it very challenging, others do however. He frequently uses old words that aren't in use anymore, puts A LOT of information into a single long, nested sentence and throws in words and phrases in foreign languages. He can be quite funny but also appear cynical and mean when he responds with a wall of text to a wall of text from another author, however he never comes off like an genuine arrogant prick to me. On the contrary, he seems like a genuinely good guy who gets easily angry when faced with unhinged rightoid drivel, ignorance and injustice. He was probably a little autistic.
Engels' style on the other hand was and still is extremely intelligible, clear, natural, classical German. The subjects he deals with and points he makes are transparent and easy to comprehend for people who don't read a lot and aren't familiar with advanced academic lingo, too. He's like the complete opposite of that pretentious freak Nietzsche, i much prefer his style over 68er Frankfurter academic style as well as over modern pompuous, bourgeois conservative or liberal Bildungsdeutsch. I wish more people today would write like Goethe, Engels and Brecht.

>>2487673
engels was the people person, marx was the mad genius

My main problem is translating all these economical terms into english in my head so I find it hard to debate other theory autists online.

yeah i think so too. i find that marx is almost purposely avoiding concrete examples sometimes in order not to be interpreted dogmatically, to teach a method of thinking. same for lenin. and then engels and stalin tend to focus on concrete examples and simplify a little to teach the masses and then people interpret them dogmatically. and then a third group likes to come in and say that engels and stalin corrupted marx and lenin. also happens with mao or anyone else who did things. people come to say 'but marx only wrote he did not do things and therefore not real communism'

The best thing that happened to Marx was Engels.

>>2488017 (idiot)

>>2488168
>Engels' style on the other hand was and still is extremely intelligible, clear, natural, classical German.

so engles is schopenhauer?

>>2487673
I think everyone thinks that
>>2488168
>nietzsche bad
filtered

Engels Marx SEX

>>2488017
stfu philistine

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bro had that bourgeois rizz

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I’ve never got why people claim Marx is hard to understand. If you have a basic level of good literacy then you should be able to read Marx. Sure some concepts can be hard to understand if you don’t know what they mean before hand but you have a search engine, use it.

Internet MLs make Marx out hard to read to deliberately confuse people because anyone who’s actually read Marx would see through their childish bullshit.

>>2488663
>Internet MLs make Marx out hard to read to deliberately confuse people
meds

>>2488663
>basic level
>good literacy
>you should be able to
three qualifiers, this is like that Kamala Harris tweet:
<Yesterday I announced that, as president, I’ll establish a student loan debt forgiveness program for Pell Grant recipients who start a business that operates for three years in disadvantaged communities.
>anyone who’s actually read Marx would see through their childish bullshit
euphoric /r/Atheism redditors insist they know the bible better than Christians, and they are aligned with Jeffrey Epstein's satanic New Atheist neoliberal friends. What do you reckon is up with /r/Ultraleft who also smugly condescend about knowing Marxism better than their slaves? 🤔

>>2488826
least false equivalence

>>2488826
most true equivalence

>>2488017
Capitalism has been around for several hundred years

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>>2488017
incorrect

>>2488663
same. people can understand video game lore perfectly fine but then have a fit when marx uses a word in a fancy way based on its etymology and history. its really not difficult

>>2488913
Can someone make a Deng edit with a ribbon that says "right about everything award" pls?

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>>2488952
Me on the left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlN6z9dTBc
This kind of memelord proto-Trump energy could be good for PR right now, Xi is cool if you are already PRCpilled, but to the normies he comes of as kind of scary.

>>2488663
You can tell you're just an r/ultraleft bot who pretends to read when you spout shit like this. There is a part in Capital where Marx refers to commodities as "inwardly circumcised Jews." You're not convincing anybody.

>>2489109
>There is a part in Capital where Marx refers to commodities as "inwardly circumcised Jews."
kek, that is exactly the kind of stuff I was thinking about when making OP


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