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>>2488224Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisBlood Ejected, Ghost Departed >>2489839This image appears to have Donald Trump written on it.
Know what that means? Donald Jay Trump may have known Jefferoy Eppenstein.
It's soooo over.
>>2489868Air gap doesn't mean "doesn't use any information that at one point used the internet".
You can't exactly hack uncertain machines using unknown OCR systems with printed-out text that only runs a decryption algorithm.
>>2489882What is a hardware backdoor going to do when it's decrypted offline?
You're going to send mail when we know that's invariably going to be read in some way?
>>2489885fed aesthetic + timing + smirk after shot + delayed reaction = this was the guy
i also heard that this guy helped move charlie's body afterwards, so definitely an inside job.
>>2489885somehow i missed pic related the first time I watched this in the previous thread.
This video is confusing. Why is it 2 minutes long if it mostly keeps looping the same part? And then it only zooms in on the finger twitch after a while. If you wanted to spread the theory of the video, I would re-edit it to be more clear about what is going on and maybe add some voice narration to more clearly convey the idea being gotten across.
>>2489900>>2489899>>2489885Tyler is NOT a patsy. You Americans are just schizos. Like questioning the moon landing, believing Hitler survived and lived in Argentina, thinking jfk death was an inside job, thinking 9/11 was an inside job, thinking that your govt is willingly imperialist but instead is a victim of ZOG.
You are unable to take responsibility and face who you really are.
>>2489859chvd mecca
chvd haj
>>2489902not any of those anons.
he hasn't pledged guilty, and despite knowing the Donziger case, where a judge having a family member working in Chevron should have recused from the case, handpicked the prosecutor because no district attorney wanted to take the case, and picked lawyers from a law firm that was a Chevron's law firm, so the judicial system is tainted, I would wait for the court case to have a verdict, than run to say he's guilty.
>>2489902>the moon landingthat happened. the conspiracy here is a distraction from the real thing: That america couldn't keep up with the USSR in the space race and their only major "Win" in the space race was this highly expensive and dangerous spectacle that they only managed to pull off once and never again
>believing Hitler survived and lived in Argentinathat's just people putting forward a more schizo version of operation paperclip and operation bloodstone which did happen.
>thinking jfk death was an inside jobGeorge DeMohrenschildt got Lee Harvey Oswald the job at the book depository and comforted/housed Oswald's ex-soviet wife after his death. He was friends with CIA agent (and future CIA director, and future president) George HW Bush (The Elder George Bush). DeMohrenschildt was also a white russian exile who fled russia after the october revolution and civil war. He mysteriously committed suicide after writing CIA director Bush a letter 13 years after JFK's death. He said he was being stalked by vigilantes in this letter. Also Oswald got assassinated by Jack Ruby after proclaiming his innocence. Jack Ruby was a literal mobster and similarly had connections to the CIA and the anti-castro cubans. Here is the letter he wrote GHWB:
>Dear George, you will excuse this hand written letter. Maybe you will be able to bring a solution into the hopeless situation I find myself in. My wife and I find ourselves surrounded by some vigilantes; our phone bugged and we are being followed everywhere. Either FBI is involved in this or they do not want to accept my complaints. We are driven to insanity by this situation. I have been behaving like a damn fool and since my daughter Nadya died from cancer [?] 3 years ago, I tried to write, stupidly and unusccessfully, about Lee Oswald and must have angered a lot of people – I don't know. But to punish an elderly man like myself and my highly nervous and sick wife is too much. Could you do something to remove this net around us? This will be my last request for help and I will not annoy you any more. Good luck in your important job. Thank you so much.
>g. de mohrenschildtSource:
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/cia/russholmes/104-10414/104-10414-10143/html/104-10414-10143_0006a.htmWhen this letter passed onto Bush's desk at the CIA, his underlings asked if Bush really knew him, and Bush said yes.
>thinking 9/11 was an inside jobThere's so many angles on this, from Larry Silverstein's insurance fraud, to GHWB's meeting with the Carlyle Group (which included the Saudi Bin Laden Company) on the morning of 9/11. Or Bin Laden's involvement with the Afghan Mujahideen during CIA operation cyclone. Typically the popular versions of the insider job conspiracy theory focuses too heavily on engineering problems (muh steal beams) and not enough on the obvious conflicts of interests, and bizarre actions the US government took after 9/11. Ask yourself, if 15 out of 19 hijackers were Saudi, with the remaining 4 being from Egypt, Lebanon, and the UAE, why did the USA attack Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen?
> thinking that your govt is willingly imperialist but instead is a victim of ZOG.The government is willingly imperialist. And the Christian Evangelical Zionists in our government are obviously guilty of taking bribes and getting themselves into positions where they can be blackmailed. I understand "ZOG" to be a nazi dogwhistle from the 1970s, but there is an extent to which the Israeli lobby has in fact influenced the US government, but obviously the US has imperial interests in the middle east besides zionism. It's a 2 way street.
>You are unable to take responsibility and face who you really are.Who I a really am? I am not my ruling class. I just live here.
Why do you throw out so many different things at once as bait? Stick to one subject.
>>2489949you dont just live there
You doom the world because of your funko pop addiction
Take responsibility: YOU BURNED GAZA DOWN, YOU ARE TO BLAME
>>2489895>a nonexistent proletariatlol
>hysterical Reddit atheismlmao
>>2489965I think that the already divisive BE would tell you to stop treating your politics like spectacle and go out and do something. Out there in the real world isn't a game. Ironic shitposting isn't helping those real people in gaza that you're championing. That's their real life.
I understand that I've replied earnestly to a black eyed nihilist with no actual connection to the content of his posts, and this makes me very uncool. All the same.
>President Donald Trump is worried that Attorney General Pam Bondi is moving too slowly to prosecute his political adversaries on fake charges. Trump has good reason to be concerned. He is carrying out his project to consolidate authoritarian power against the trend of declining public support for his administration and himself. He is like a man trying to race upward on a downward-moving escalator. If he loses the race, he will be pulled ever deeper below—and the escalator keeps moving faster against him.
>Autocracies are headed by one man but require the cooperation of many others. Some collaborators may sincerely share the autocrat’s goals, but opportunists provide a crucial margin of support. In the United States, such people now have to make a difficult calculation: Do the present benefits of submitting to Trump’s will outweigh the future hazards?
>As Bondi makes her daily decisions about whether to abuse her powers to please Trump, she has to begin with one big political assessment: Will Trump ultimately retain the power to reward and punish her? It’s not just about keeping her present job. On the one hand, people in Trump’s favor can make a lot of money from their proximity to power. On the other, Richard Nixon’s attorney general, John Mitchell, served 19 months in prison for his crimes during Watergate. If Trump’s hold on power loosens, Bondi could share Mitchell’s fate.
>Trump’s hold on power is indeed loosening. His standing with the voting public is quickly deteriorating. Grocery prices jumped in August 2025 at the fastest speed since the peak of the post-pandemic inflation in 2022. Job growth has stalled to practically zero.
>Almost two-thirds of Americans disapprove of higher tariffs, Trump’s signature economic move. His administration’s attack on vaccines for young children is even more unpopular. This year has brought the highest number of measles cases since the Clinton administration introduced free universal vaccination for young children in 1993. Parents may be rightly shocked and angry.
>Shortly after MSNBC reported that Tom Homan, Trump’s border czar, had accepted $50,000 in cash from FBI agents posing as businessmen last year, allegedly in exchange for a promise to help secure government contracts, the pro-Trump podcaster Megyn Kelly posted “We DO NOT CARE.” This kind of acquiescence to corruption has been one of Trump’s most important resources. But the American people become a lot less tolerant of corruption in their leaders when they feel themselves under economic pressure. As of early August, nearly two-thirds of Americans regarded Trump as corrupt, 45 percent as “very corrupt.” More than 60 percent think the Trump administration is covering up the Jeffrey Epstein case. Almost 60 percent regard Bondi personally responsible for the cover-up.
>The MAGA project in many ways resembles one of former businessman Donald Trump’s dangerously leveraged real-estate deals. A comparatively small number of fanatics are heart-and-soul committed. Through them, Trump controls the Republican apparatus and the right-wing media world, which allows him to do things like gerrymander states where he is in trouble (50 percent of Texans now disapprove of Trump, while only 43 percent approve) or wield the enforcement powers of the Federal Communications Commission to silence on-air critics. But over-leveraged structures are susceptible to external shocks and internal mistakes.
>Trump in his first term mostly avoided screwing up the economy. His trade wars with China triggered a nearly 20 percent stock-market slump in the fall and early winter of 2018. Trump retreated, and no recession followed the slump until the COVID shock of 2020. But in his second term, Trump has jettisoned his former economic caution. The stock market is doing fine in 2025 on hopes of interest-rate cuts. The real economy is worsening. The percentage of Americans who think the country is on the “wrong track” rose sharply over the summer. Even self-identified Republicans are now more negative than positive.
>The souring is especially bitter among younger people. More than 60 percent of Republicans younger than 45 say things are on the wrong track, a 30-point deterioration over the three summer months.the last bits of this we’re talking about the 2026 elections, but I don’t care enough about that to bother posting it here.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/09/trump-bondi-edva/684292/?gift=m96bRl1pz2A_jXihg3h08n_1DrvmDV6aNUAmS3pU1zAhttps://www.removepaywall.com/ >>2490017The white allies thing is telling
It’s just a long winded way of saying “I AM HUWHITE!!!!”
>Behind closed doors, our top CEOs say Trump is bad for business and it’s time to Make America into America Again
>We just hosted a large gathering of top CEOs, primarily Republicans, and you might be surprised by what we heard. While many of them have been willing to support the president out of patriotic duty—and dismay over some Democratic policies—they are increasingly questioning who truly stands to benefit from the maelstrom of chaos, fear, and confusion that he has intentionally created
>The Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute’s CEO forum gathers top political leaders with Fortune 500 CEOs for a Chatham House rules discussion where direct quotes are off the record. In Washington DC this week at the 155th gathering, as clouds swirled around the Capitol building just steps away, senators from both parties and some top Trump administration officials joined us. They had to face down the near unanimous verdict from over 100 top business leaders, representing some of the world’s largest companies and most iconic brands: Trump’s policies aren’t working. These opinions were all about business results, by the way: the reasoning was independent of personal politics or industry sector, it always came back to the bottom line.
>Business leaders at our forum worry that Trump is undermining an economic system that took decades to build and has long benefited the U.S. more than any other country, under both Republican and Democratic administrations, all for short-term gains. They see what’s happening as a hollowing out of U.S. economic foundations and institutions. In this free-to-speak environment (a loaded topic these days), they said that while they approve of bringing manufacturing back to the U.S. and bolstering economic and national security, they fear for America’s international standing amid the degradation of national security at the FBI, the CIA, and the Pentagon.This widespread sentiment is directly counter to the heavily trumpeted “Dear Leader” tributes of just a handful of tech titans, who are decidedly not representative of the leadership class.
>Two-thirds of the CEOs surveyed at our event said that U.S. tariffs have been harmful to their businesses. They estimate that 80% of the tariffs have been shared equally between domestic firms and U.S. consumers, with the remainder shouldered by foreign counterparts. Businesses have attempted to limit the cost of tariffs from being passed on by rerouting supply chains, reworking operations, instituting hiring pauses, or administering large-scale layoffs. But they have limited options left as inventories built up before the tariffs took effect continue to be depleted.
>One CEO of a major U.S. manufacturing company explained to the group: “If the U.S. government wants to help protect certain industries, they need to help those industries be successful. It is not just putting a bunch of tariffs in place and assuming those industries are going to get moved to the U.S. There have to be incentives … Consumers want products to be low-cost … power tools, hand tools, clothing, sneakers … Does it really make sense to be manufacturing all that in the United States? I do not believe it does. I believe there are certain industries where it does make sense … but it is not realistic to expect every industry in the world to be manufacturing products in the U.S. for the U.S.”
>The leaders of Gap, Ford, Stanley Black & Decker, Nike, Conagra, Procter & Gamble, Home Depot, Best Buy, Macy’s, Target, and Walmart are but a few of the many who have outlined similar dilemmas in recent public commentary. This is the perfect opportunity for the Business Roundtable to advocate for its members in a forceful, direct challenge to the administration, but it has been perplexingly muffled. As expected, inflation has increased, reversing the downward trend that Trump inherited from the Biden administration, and the labor market continues to weaken.
>Unfortunately, rebuilding at home does not seem to be the solution Trump had hoped for. Fewer than half of the CEOs reported having increased investments in domestic manufacturing and other infrastructure since “Liberation Day,” and even fewer said they expected the results of their capital investments to be material.
>Then there’s the uncertainty that hangs over everyone’s business during the second Trump term, and why CEOs told us that they’re watching and waiting. Across town the same day, Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell described the “low firing, low hiring environment” in the labor market. We could have told him why.
>As we saw in the first Trump administration, there is also the larger question of which major capital investment announcements are truly new, or whether they are old plans dusted off and repackaged to appease an exacting president. Past examples of widely celebrated manufacturing investments that petered out include the failed $10 billion Foxconn factory in Wisconsin. And while the president may still like to hold star-studded events celebrating the supposed hundreds of billions of dollars being invested in the U.S. because of him, the validity of some of those commitments has been called into question. Other pledges are once again encountering indefinite delays.
>CEOs at our event repeated stories of similar quandaries. A well-known business leader with a significant manufacturing footprint in the U.S. and abroad told the group that while they want a level playing field and support the president’s goals in that regard, their company can only offset some of the tariff-related cost increases through operating efficiencies and tax benefits from the recently passed “One Big Beautiful Bill.” They added that for now, the cost of tariffs still far exceeds the benefits provided by the Trump administration, drawing murmurs of agreement from the room.
>Just as frustrating for CEOs is the lingering sense that this entire house of cards might collapse at any moment due to a court reversal. Nearly three-quarters of all executives surveyed said they the courts are correct in saying Trump’s tariffs are illegal as implemented. If the Supreme Court agrees with those business leaders, then corporate America’s plans will be thrown into disarray again amid halting uncertainty.
>Another leading CEO in the manufacturing sector, whose products are primarily made in America, explained just how debilitating this kind of uncertainty is for their company: “Manufacturing has always been a big advantage for America. So, I think bringing back manufacturing is important. The administration has it right … [We need a level] playing field in the United States … But I am always worried about what the government is going to do next. It seems like the tariffs have simmered down, but in reality, where manufacturers import from is Mexico, Canada, and China. None of those [trade deals] is settled. So, if you want to make a change in your business, you recognize tariffs are going to change in 90 days or 120 days. And I don’t want to look like a fool! So, I’m going to hold back.”
>The worries of the group also extended beyond their business operations. More than three-quarters said Trump is not acting in America’s best interests by pressuring Jerome Powell to cut interest rates. The majority said they believe the president has done lasting damage to the independence of the Federal Reserve, and over 60% said they felt his recent actions of politicization are to blame.
>The head of a major U.S. multinational investment bank discussed how perplexing it is to see the administration pursue an America-first agenda but then attack the independence of the Fed: “If you look at all the things that the President and this administration are doing, all of them are in service of keeping the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency … The only thing that I have not been able to square with this administration is the attack on the Fed’s independence. That is such a critical part of making sure that the U.S. dollar remains the world’s reserve currency, because people trust that the Fed’s independence is the one area that is outside the presidential influence.”
>The CEO forum was not entirely pessimistic. The chief executives want to see a thriving America and they were quick to congratulate President Trump when his actions reap tangible results. On CNBC’s Mad Money with Jim Cramer last week, Apple CEO Tim Cook and Corning CEO Wendell Weeks credited Trump for encouraging their $2.5 billion partnership in Kentucky. A similar sentiment echoed at our event.
>CEOs told us they still believe in the promise of the U.S. and its capitalist system, but it’s hard to ignore the Trump administration’s drift toward a quasi-socialist statism, seizing ownership from private shareholders, dictating staffing, and selectively blocking moves into strategic markets based upon politics and kickbacks. Nearly three-quarters of CEOs surveyed said they were confident that U.S. free-market capitalism can compete with China’s socialist market economy in the global AI contest, and they expressed a near-unanimous discontent as the Trump administration has veered away from the capitalist system.
>The gathered CEOs firmly disapproved of the president’s recent market interventions by taking equity stakes in Intel and MP Materials, requiring a revenue sharing agreement for approval of Nvidia’s and AMD’s China-sourced revenues, and mandating a golden share for authorization of the Nippon Steel takeover of a failing U.S. Steel, feeling that his actions more closely resemble those of China than the America envisioned in “Make America Great Again.”
>Such flirtation with state-driven capitalism and protectionism not only leaves CEOs facing heightened uncertainty, fearfully wondering what comes next, but also providing China an opening with their suppliers and customers. At our CEO forum in March, 85% of business leaders viewed U.S. government uncertainty as a gift to China in terms a competitive opportunity. They said this week that this has proved true over the last six months.
>Similarly, in March, we asked whether the U.S.-Russia-Ukrainian peace talks happening that week in Saudi Arabia would lead to a peace agreement. Nearly three-quarters said that would happen within six months. Regrettably, over three-quarters of CEOs now see relations with Russia and Ukraine as worse since Trump took office. A similar proportion of executives said they thought we are at risk of losing the momentum gained in the Middle East from the Abraham Accords.
>The CEO’s dismay across foreign relations and economic issues is consistent with general opinion polling across the board. From Ipsos, Gallup, and the Associated Press to Emerson College, Quinnipiac University, and Morning Consult, each set of data set sends a clear message: America sharply disapproves of President Trump’s leadership. His approval ratings are worse than those of any other president at this point in their tenure since President George W. Bush.
>After nine months in office, there is a clear desire to return to a respect for the balance of powers in government, to reinforce international allies, to fortify independent, objective expertise of economists and scientists, to encourage freedom of voice, to stop bullying countries, cities, and companies into resentful, uneconomical compromises. In short, CEOs are calling to make America, America again.
>When one commenter compared MAGA to the Maoist movement, there wasn’t an outcry of disagreement. Quite the opposite.https://fortune.com/2025/09/21/behind-closed-doors-ceos-say-trump-is-bad-for-business-and-its-time-to-make-america-into-america-again/ >>2490041Knowing your folk, your cultural revolution will just produce more cringe
No thanks, we are barely surviving this
>>2490047If Trump nationalises companies Ill unironically become a MAGAcom
The Don acked USAID
He humiliated Zelensky
He brought China and India closer
He makes euroaches seethe
If he nationalises companies, Ill forgive his ICE thuggery and wear a MAGA hat happily
>>2489902JFK & 9/11 were more likely inside jobs than not btw.
look into House Select Committee on Assassinations. they came to the conclusion there was a conspiracy and multiple shooters but didnt suggest any particular groups involvement, though a few members noted how the CIA actively hindered their investigation and had also done so with the initial warren commission
>>2490057I just wish I could have Jacqui man
What a cute lady she was
Dumbfuck JFK still had to cheat
Morons never know the value of what they have
>>2490047but there is no alternative lmfao. they look at chinese state capitalism, and chinese state capitalism is blowing the USA out of the water in nearly every metric. The only option to stay competitive with the other superpower is to switch to a model of nationalization and state owned enterprises. But they'll fuck it up at the last minute. Also they're delusional about the fact that you have to build up domestic manufacturing first. They just want to spam tariffs before they've even built factories. They're so retarded. They think we can just go from being a net importer to a net exporter overnight, but that takes decades when you don't want to centrally plan anything. Meanwhile Lutnick is saying that "the customer is always right" and trying to sell it as a good thing that we're the world's customer even though we're trying to change that. Another contradiction is Trump wants to keep American currency hegemony, but USD hegemony is dependent on the USA being a net importer. You can't be world reserve currency AND world exporter at the same time. They also aren't reckoning with the fact that if they reindustrialize it will finally bring class struggle back to the country by re-proletarianizing millions of lumpen and petty bourgeoisie and other de-classed elements. To the extent that they have considered this at all, they want to build more prisons and make more people into literally slaves, but the kind of people they want to throw in prison and make into slaves are also the kind of people they want to deport, hence Bukele.
TL;DR everything under heaven is chaos, the situation is excellent
>>2490068Jacqui probs wanted that strong Castro cock in the middle of the Cuban crisis
Who knows
>>2490051>If he nationalises companies, Ill forgive his ICE thuggery You'll forgive it until you're caught up in it like so many citizens (not even illegal aliens but actual citizens) have been.
Besides, nationalization under a capitalist mode of production is not "MAGAcom" (whatever that means) let alone actual "com". But ignoring the fact that you're willing to forgive pics related in exchange for nationalization, you're forgetting the part where you actually wage revolutionary civil war and seize the nationalized industries from the bourgeoisie, which involves risk to yourself. Foolish!
>>2490073I wont be caught because i have never set foot in Al-Amriqa
So yeah, i can forgive his ICE alright
>>2490077Damn
Everytime he posts im not online fml
Specially since i was not on leftypol when the famed Newgene and Rafiq were posting
I also wanted to be blessed by their posts
Mods should be more lenient, too few people frequent these image boards
If you start banning the more profilic posters, you end up with a dead board. Or worse, a vanilla board
>>2490041the sad part is, so many countries have imported this
Res Publica Americana to consolidate the
Pax Americana, so capital interests aren't touched by the vomitive idpoling infighting created by the US.
>>2490077some people has been impersonating him, tbf. self-admitted and self-confesed. LEEEEL
Some people in fact argue that he hasn't posted since 2023, when he got doxed.
>>2490095>if anything america would become even worse and more revenge seeking than it already is.>also american expats would end up everywhere.>the worst americans would survive in their billionaire bunkers.no americans would be left, and if any survive they will be rounded up and shot. the land america sits on will be salted, america will be removed from all recorded history, and we'll just pretend this failed experiment in liberalism never happened.
>then you'd fuck over the whole planet with nuclear winter. you're delusional or joking.worth it
>>2490113Lumpen-crackerism
worst timeline ever
>>2490145My family has a timeshare there (yeah yeah bougie whatever) and it used to be if you planned things right you could at least avoid waiting in long lines because of the aforementioned fastpass, but alas we have been robbed of this amazing innovation because fuck you I guess. Of course when you're a kid or hell even a young adult you can look past the kitsch and admittedly the sheer scale of the whole operation is impressive, but the more you go there the more sinister the whole thing seems.
Honestly though that's got me thinking, what ARE we going to do with those big ass resorts? Aside from using them to house people and stripping some of the rides for various metals of course. For Disney World at least I think parts of it could be preserved as some kind of exhibit of capitalist exploitation and time wasting, the rest can be repurposed with socialist branding.
>>2490151>>2490154Personally I love the idea of amusement parks, but maybe I'm just a filthy consoooooomer
>>2490172>>2490174Maybe it's just cuz I've been going to it since I was young and didn't become commie until I was older but the IP overdose used to be not as bad as it is now. True the Magic Kingdom is one man's giant ego trip and you cant escape those stupid Mickey Mouse ears no matter where you go, but the other three parks didn't have too much corporate shit. Even the former MGM Studios was largely dedicated to more vintage films and stuff about film making and special effects then it was IPs. Now? It's completely shameless corporate pandering everywhere. Fucking James Cameron has his own section in Animal Kingdom that has nothing to do with animals. Every new ride is IP related and sponsored by some company or another and while GOTG is goated it's also a bit too edgy for Disney so they soften it up a lot and all that Marvel shit is kinda out of place anyways. I mean granted it's an improvement over that Ellen DeGeneres ride that whitewashes fossil fuels but everything just feels more and more hollow. And dont get me started on what they've done to the Studios. Sloppariffic. One might ask how much more slop could there be, and the answer is none.
Idk I'm rambling like an old man yelling at a cloud about this stupid inconsequential shit but I guess what I'm saying is that enshittification happens even to our best memories
>>2490191the hand is too orange
isn't that a sign of jaundice?
>>2490212spoof *porn movies are peak
the rest is meh
>>2490266>anthropomorphic angelssilly ass people that love to regurgitate churches imagery.
they'll never get this based cannon representation of angels from the angelology studies.
>>2490282>they'll never get this based cannon representation of angels from the angelology studies.1. canon*, nothing is being fired from a muzzle
2. muh biblically accurate angels is an overstated meme.
>>2490037Yeah. Citizens United translated money into raw, political power where the one with the most wins. But now you've got winners that by themselves have more money than entire coalitions of lesser porkies. What's even worse for them though is that there are some who helm industries that have become essential and even integrated into the state, like Thiel/Anduril and Musk/SpaceX, which gives them even more leverage than others.
To make matters even worse for the lesser porkies, with the expansion of markets coming to a halt, competition from China, and the denuding of the consumer classes in the West, petty millionaires are becoming the last reservoirs of capital for monopolists to capture, and they have no real means of competing or contesting them when they fall in their crosshairs.
>>2490348I anticipate a copy cat in a few years.
This got such a bigger reaction than any school shooting and schizos love that shit.
>>2489917>thoughts on richard nixon calling astronauts on the moon? It's called radio.
>>2489949>the conspiracy here is a distraction from the real thing: That america couldn't keep up with the USSR in the space race and their only major "Win" in the space race was this highly expensive and dangerous spectacle that they only managed to pull off once and never againThere was more than one moon landing but the other ones don't get as much attention as the first one with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. It was a program that ran for several missions (and designed that way) until the funding ran out. The later ones even had a rover.
>>2489949>Ask yourself, if 15 out of 19 hijackers were Saudi, with the remaining 4 being from Egypt, Lebanon, and the UAE, why did the USA attack Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen?The U.S. likes to knock off unfriendly governments? Also another factor is that the U.S. looked terribly weak after 9/11 (when the U.S. appeared to be at the height of its power) and so the Bush administration adopted an open-ended rollback campaign against everybody they didn't like. It's like, go nuts, make the world afraid of messing with us.
I think the JFK assassination was probably a conspiracy by right-wing forces connected to the CIA and Cuban mobsters, but Al Qaeda was real and did the 9/11 attacks, and they had previously blown up some embassies in Africa (mostly killing locals) and also a U.S. warship in Yemen. Bin Laden saw himself as an Islamic revolutionary type figure. People who get into conspiracy theories about this don't really pay much attention to these actual groups, who they are, or what they believe. People don't think they exist but they do.
The U.S. has previously retreated from Somalia after losing a battle in Mogadishu in the early 90s, and previously pulled troops out of Lebanon after a major attack there in the 80s (by Hezbollah but they didn't call themselves Hezbollah yet), and I think Al Qaeda's goal was to drive U.S. forces out of Muslim lands and they figured that attacking the U.S. would further that goal, while also undermining an external source of support for Israel and various apostate regimes. They believed like many do that the U.S. was a morally decadent society in decline and didn't have the will to endure a long fight with brave Islamic warriors.
>>2490119>conspiracy brain is legitimately harmful at a certain point when people dont have any standards besides vibes and a good story. but it is even more frustrating when people take on a tone of smug superiority about conspiracies as if saying the CIA would facilitate a false flag account is the same as saying aligning your chakras lets you speak telepathically to greysI think conspiracism is narrative-driven yeah. I see this a lot when something happens and "they're trying to distract from [insert thing I was seeing in the news]." It's common among people who are addicted to the news, where they see everything in terms of a story-driven narrative, and their instincts are (correctly) telling them that the news doesn't have it quite right, but they think the problem is that it's not the right "story." One thing that is important to note about news stories is that they're never strictly objective or map onto reality in a 1:1 way, it's more an interpretation of reality in the form of a narrative structure, and certainly in many cases that structure reflects certain reigning assumptions or norms shared by people who own newspapers or major television networks.
But you hear people say Trump attacking the Venezuelan boats is a distraction from the Epstein files. But it's like, no, what I think is really going on is that the U.S. government is phasing up a longer-term plan to overthrow the Venezuelan government. They were actually doing a bad job distracting from the Epstein files until right-wing media (Fox News etc.) seized on the footage of that Ukrainian woman getting shanked on a train, which was a happy coincidence that landed in their lap, then Kirk was killed and the Ukrainian girl got shoved aside. But as a matter of fact, there have been all kinds of crazy plots involving Venezeula. There were several of them during Trump's first term, like mercenaries from Florida showing up with guns.
>>2490376Sure. The U.S. was allied with these people during the Cold War against communists. Anyhow, if you want to read something interesting about that Bin Laden article, look up the author Robert Fisk.
>>2490384I'm not sure the plan was to provoke a U.S. invasion. I think they might've really thought the U.S. would pull troops out of the Middle East as a result of the 9/11 attacks. I dunno, I'd have to read more about it, and obviously that was not how it went down (at least at first), but they had some basis to believe this because the U.S. had repeatedly skedaddled when taking losses in Somalia and Lebanon.
>>2490396>Why do people still act like Osama didn't straight up say his end goal was to get the US to over-commit in the middle east? He said stuff like that after the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Which sure, U.S. troops driving down the highway in Iraq is an opportunity to blow them up, but I think that was more a change in strategy in a crisis = opportunity sort of way. But in the 90s he'd use phrases like "paper tiger" and so on.
Here's Robert Fisk:
<But I still have my notes, scribbled in the frozen darkness with an oil lamp sputtering between us. I’ve got the quotes which I thought were most frightening. He started off with the old cliché: “I’m not against the American people, only their government.” Decades of dictatorship out here, of course, have persuaded many Muslims of the region that governments don’t represent their people. And I tried to explain to bin Laden that this was not so in the West, that the American people, against whom he supposedly had no argument, regarded their government as their elected representatives. He didn’t say much to this, merely the observation that “We are still at the beginning of our military action against the American forces.” He was talking there about American forces in the Gulf—Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and so on.
<And then, later on, there was a much more disturbing remark, or certainly disturbing in the light of what happened last week. And this does not mean he was responsible, but it obviously raises the question in my mind. He said, “We believe that God used our holy war in Afghanistan to destroy the Russian army and the Soviet Union.” He said, “We did this from the top of the very mountain on which you are sitting, Mr. Robert. And now we ask God to use us one more time to do the same to America, to make it a shadow of itself. We also believe that our battle against America is much simpler than our battle against the Russians.” And he went on to say that the reason for this was that some of his men had fought the Americans in Somalia. He meant the doomed U.N. mission to Somalia. And he said that that gave him the impression that—he said, “Our men were surprised at the collapse of American morale in Somalia. This convinced us that the Americans are a paper tiger.” Well, in the coming days, weeks or months, he may change that view of the Americans being a paper tiger, but that’s what he said to me at the time.https://www.democracynow.org/2001/9/17/robert_fisk_recounts_his_interviews_with >>2490399It really just requires a basic understanding of history to come to this conclusion without having read any of bin Laden's works tbh.
>>2490406Being honest that entire quote reads like either delusion or propaganda, from both Fisk and bin Laden. On one side you have the Islamist trying to boost morale of his own soldiers by calling America a paper tiger, despite likely knowing 99% of them will be killed by American bombs in the coming months, but it'll serve his ideology either way if America retreats or goes all-in, and on the other you have a guy that is very clearly caught in the delusion of the hyper-patriotic fervor immediately following 9/11 and probably immensely regretted it afterwards.
<And I tried to explain to bin Laden that this was not so in the West, that the American people, against whom he supposedly had no argument, regarded their government as their elected representatives.lol
I do think bin Laden was right in saying the war against America is much simpler than the one against the USSR. America's been bleeding money into the middle east since 2001 and is now reaching the stage of societal collapse where they're forced to drain their own people's futures to generate more money for Global Zionism's military campaign against the middle east. There were at least (some) competent bureaucrats in the USSR that were aware of how fucked things were getting, but America rooted all those people out of our own government during the Bush years, and now Trump has completed the transition from 'competent bureaucracy' to a full on reality television dictatorship. There is no recovering from this, America has completely hollowed itself out ideologically to fight a suicide war against ideas that it cannot possibly win.
>>2490433>On one side you have the Islamist trying to boost morale of his own soldiers by calling America a paper tiger, despite likely knowing 99% of them will be killed by American bombs in the coming monthsWell, not exactly, Bin Laden expressed the paper tiger remarks in 1996, Fisk was recounting it.
>and on the other you have a guy that is very clearly caught in the delusion of the hyper-patriotic fervor immediately following 9/11 and probably immensely regretted it afterwards.I don't think hyper-patriotic would describe Robert Fisk lol. He was a famous left-wing journalist.
>>2490383Summary
>ck was going through a personal transformation and becoming heavily critical of Israel in general and Netanyahu in particular<Israel feels threatened because yankee Christian support is essential>big blowup at bill ackman's influencer summit as ackman presses ck on his views, causing natasha hausdorff to start screaming at ck<this causes candace owens to spill more info about the influencer summit, zionist influencers try and cancel her>netanyahu posts video saying he didn't kill ck even though grayzone article said there was no evidence Israel did it<fbi claims robinson changed clothes to commit shooting and changed back after>owens shows image of robinson at 6:38pm day of at nearby dairyqueen <text messages sound weird and have no time stamps, fbi claims found "manifesto" that was destroyed and had to be "forensically reconstructed">footage of the shooter and TR don't seem to match, footage of shooter not released<no autopsy report yet, but family decides whether or not it was released>footage of event from the back removed from event, possibly in custody of tpusa<bullet itself not yet found, "rumor" that it won't be found>"no one knows what the official story is"<lack of evidence possible basis for reasonable doubt>how important is bible belt support for Israel? <the right wing, messianic, fascist drift of Israeli society makes bible belt support for Israel and netanyahu essential>netanyahu is holding together the Israeli government <American society is moving in the opposite direction of Israeli politics, particularly as figures like CK and MTG highlight the effect Israel is having on Christian communities in and around Israel, eg church of st poryphyrius>Netanyahu’s support base reduced to 1%/Jewish Zionist influencers<ben shapiro's daily wire had to cancel their credit cards last year due to financial problems>tpusa has a bigger budget than some cities<maga christians upset by influence/control Israel seems to have over us gov and Trump>ck feeling intense pressure from his zionist donors, having to field their calls every day to assuage their anxiety about his speaking tour<donors tried to dictate what ck would say on his tour and reportedly kirk was "fighting back">us media is the "8th front" of israel's conflict which is pushing for a total takeover of it to prevent any platform for criticism of Israel<the political right/"trump inc" is coopting hate speech laws in order to protect the 1%>dei is taking the class component out of civil rights<dei provisions for wealthy american jews that contribute to Trump's campaigns is a political gift to netanyahu>Trump giving NEH biggest grant in history for the likudnik tikfa fund which includes figures like bari weiss and brett stevens at the nyt<"the Trump administration is engaging in Jews-only dei" while persecuting their perceived enemies like "antifa">antifa is heavily infiltrated by law enforcement, which makes it the perfect "terrorism factory" for government plots, like the fbi carried out during the GW Bush/Obama admins<EX: fbi groomed shooters and directed them at a "draw mohammed" competition in texas, following them in a car and watched as they were shot by security, telling the public that they were gunmen from isis sent to shoot up free speech event>how can we understand their policy on tiktok?<"look up 'Netanyahu’s bullionaires," a term that started with a ynet post about a list 50 millionaires and billionaires personally hand written by netanyahu detailing who would support his campaign >one of those on the list is larry ellison, owner of oracle which was launched with support from the cia<owns his own "ellison island">ellison is a fanatical zionist at the forefront of the campaign to buy tiktok and establish a totally pro israel media environment <david ellison is trying to buy cbs news and install bari weiss at its head>larry ellison intends to buy cnn in order to stifle critical reporting by its international bureau<united European football org possibly moving toward banning Israel, just one aspect of the pr disaster israel is trying to head off>arms dealer mark andreeson and zionist propagandist david horowitz are partnering with ellison to take over tiktok<johnathon greenblatt went to Israel last year to recommend a "media blitz" version of the pager attack, including the purchase of tiktok>ck lost a major zionist donor days before his death, apparently over ck "giving voice to conservative anger of the Israeli takeover of the Trump administration"<Trump administration unhappy about the "takeover">Trump has "just surrendered because he's weak and afraid"<conservative anger came out in the open at july tpusa student action summit in tampa florida where tucker carlson called epstein a mossad agent and declaring that if you volunteer to fight for the Israeli government but not the US government "you should have your passport stripped">carlson called bill ackman a "scam artist" and questioned where his wealth came from, angering ackman who launched a campaign against tpusa and carlson<anti zionist jewish comedian dave Smith was brought on stage to debate newsweek editor joshua hammer on gaza and genocide>other donors are so furious they pull their money out of tpusa<"every third question on the first stop of his tour" was about kirk's stance on Israel>zionists lack another figure like ck to shill for them<purchasing media outlets isn't going to solve israel's pr problem>who comes after charlie and what's in store for the movement?<ck wife hasn't commented on candace owens' allegations which is conspicuous>ck was a critical aspect of directing new republican voters into the Trump wing<one of the last talks was supposed to be with former black radical and obama admin alum Van Jones, now a zionist shill, about race and crime, which would implicate black people as criminals and call for a crackdown>blumenthal suspects a zionist donor wanted this talk to happen knowing that van jones was part of their network<republicans have embraced the exact censorship and government powers to censor and persecute their opponents and critics>doesn't expect the first amendment to last out the next two years<eric bolling of tpusa trying to assassinate candace owens' character>patrick bet david got rich off a pyramid scheme<tpusa board full of shills just in it for the money like pbd and bolling>bill ackman calls secret influencer summit "friendly meal" with ck<shills and donors desperate to get things "back in order">tpusa looks like a corrupt, televangelist org that just takes money from people to "keep the gravy train going"<trump, ackman afraid of the epstein files>ackman furious when his connections to epstein exposed in the media<Trump is afraid of netanyahu's "ruthlessness and clear insanity">people peripheral to Trump admin thought that netanyahu coming out and saying that he did not kill ck "was insane and that he's losing his mind"<Trump did not like netanyahu killing the hamas negotiating team, but fears what netanyahu will do to him>trump admin thru secret service found two devices on ss emergency response vehicles left by Israeli agents<in 2019 3 former trump admin officials confirmed to politico that Israel had planted stingray devices in the white house to spy on Trump>netanyahu himself planted listening devices<Trump fear of netanyahu "rational">"assassination has fueled netanyahu's rise to power"<comment by ministry of diaspora affairs "new axis of evil is turkey, syria, and qatar">marco rubio, in control of more national security cabinet level positions than anyone since kissinger and is "more powerful than the vice president", was summoned to jerusalem to kiss the wall<transcripts from discussions between israeli officials in security cabinet indicate that Israel wouldn't have attacked iran if they didn't know that trump would join them>expects Israel to attack again sometime before the midterms which the Republicans are expected to lose<comments about turkey, qatar, about fear that they might establish some sort of authority in syria, pushback against Israel in general>Israel recently attacked a Turkish training base in Pamyra<Turkish control of groups like hts gives them armed forces on israel's frontier>egypt opposes expulsion of palestinians into its territory, calls it "red line" for them to be pushed into the sinai, claims will activate military to oppose this at conference in qatar<qatar supporting expulsion of Israel from euro football league>three top lobbyists for qatar in trump admin, attorney general pam bondi, kash patel, lee zeldin at epa, giving qatar influence which threatens Israel >>2490476Humanity will survive without America. And it'll be better off for it.
You're not exactly wrong that history will likely repeat, as the worst traits of humanity are part of our biology, but maybe in 1 or 2 thousand years of Communist selective breeding China can remove psychopathy from the gene pool and create a society that rewards harmony and cooperation.
>>2490480No one on the Left is really that surprised that Americans don't have a socialist movement. I mean ancient Rome never had a abolitionist movement, because the survival of the Roman Republic and the lifestyle of all its citizens was completely reliant on slavery.
Like, I genuinely don't see your angle here, how do you expect American Communism to ever rise from appeasing Americans and their addiction to treats at the expense of the rest of the world? If you were remotely serious you'd realize that there needs to be some level of reeducation before anything can change, and that requires acknowledging the selfishness of the American proletariat rather than pitying them as victims of their own imperialism. We need to build not just ideological but cultural discipline in the American public, that YES YOU SHOULD CONSUME LESS, YES SOCIALISM REQUIRES REDUCING YOUR WASTE AND BEING MORE CONSCIENTIOUS OF THE COST YOUR LIFESTYLE HAS ON THE REST OF THE WORLD DUDE, and not treat it as a personal attack on the American way of life.
>>2490410It’s a bogus cure and a bogus “cause”.
The reality though is that most people diagnosed with autism don’t have it, because AS is bogus and the spectrum concept is bogus.
>>2490486>Humanity will survive without America. And it'll be better off for it.pretty sure the conversation wasn't about whether the world would survive without the US government/nation, but about whether nuking America is a good idea. Nuking a land mass the size of the USA, from coast to coast, with contemporary thermonuclear weapons (not the pussy shit from hiroshima/nagasaki) would
objectively make the earth uninhabitable, and no amount of goalpost shifting will trick me into thinking this was yet another "treatlerite" conversation even though you've already succeeded in fooling four others.
need i remind you fuckers the conversation started here: >>2490062 >>2490488No worries, glad to help. I just wish I wasn't doing it at work on my phone. Thumb's killing me.
Apparently Max is going to put something out in the next couple of days that expands on some of the things he mentioned but I can't remember exactly what.
Also speaking of Fisk, I'm reading an interview he gave in 2005 about why the U.S. invaded Iraq.
<Q: Why else is the U.S. in Iraq?
>Fisk: That's the question I ask myself more and more. We didn't invade for weapons of mass destruction, because there weren't any. We didn't want to help the Shiites, because we had asked them to rise up in 1991 and sat back while they were all massacred. Clearly, we wouldn't have invaded Iraq if its chief export was cauliflower or carrots. So the oil dimension has to be there.
>But I think there is something else, too. I was down that horrible Highway 18 in Iraq. I was interviewing some people after a Red Cross man had been murdered. I was standing by the roadside, and the road started to move. I thought, "My God, it's an earthquake." Around the corner and coming up the highway was an American infantry division. Thousands and thousands and thousands of soldiers. Abrams tanks, Bradley armored vehicles, truck after truck with the infantry, all wearing shades, rifles pointing out the side like porcupines, transporters, mobile-tracked armored vehicles, anti-aircraft guns, heavy artillery. It took almost an hour to pass, and all the time the ground shook.
>And I remember thinking that 2,000 years ago a little bit to the west of where I was standing we would have been feeling the vibration of centurions' feet, tromp, tromp, tromp. I began to wonder, then, when I saw this massive armored centipede, whether it didn't also represent the visceral need to project power, which is a characteristic of a superpower. We can go to Baghdad, so we will go to Baghdad. We can go to Tehran. We can go to Damascus. We will, because we can.
>That is part of the way in which a neoconservative thinks. You know, it's very easy to sneer at the Cheneys and the Wolfowitzes and the Feiths and the Perles. But we should spend a lot more time examining what their motives are and what makes them tick, because this projection of power is much more important than we realize. Possibly, it's almost as important as oil.
>You have to be on this side of the world to realize that the Americans have a steel line right across the region. They're in Britain, they're in Germany, they're in Italy, they're in Greece, they're in Turkey. They won't get to Syria yet, but they're in Iraq, they're in Saudi Arabia on a lesser scale, they're in Qatar on a big scale, they're in Bahrain, they're in Kuwait, Special Forces are operating in Yemen. A whole steel line runs from the Arctic right down below the equator. Lily pads are what Donald Rumsfeld calls them, these zones where the Americans live. But in fact they are not lily pads; they are armed fortresses.
>It reminds me of the Crusader castles. They are quite lovely on the outside. But when you're inside, it's cold and damp and you can't see out; you just have to peer through these arrow slits. That's all the Crusaders saw of the land they were occupying. And that's now happening to the Americans in Iraq. They sit in this little Green Zone, which is where the Republican Palace was, where the American and British embassies are, and where all their American-appointed Iraqis are, surrounded by palisades of prestressed concrete. It's the nearest we've got to the Crusader castle. And they peer out through the machine gun openings, and they see a street outside. That is Baghdad. That is their contact with the land they occupy. And all these positions-Kandahar airport in Afghanistan, the huge American base outside Fallujah, the Green Zone inside Baghdad-are massive Crusader compounds.
>>2490504I remember years ago reading a story about a Chinese school teacher going on a stabbing spree, attacking several children iirc. I remember the article attributed his rampage to something like "feeling left out of all the prosperity the government’s policies were bringing younger Chinese."
But yeah, when it happens here, they're just crazy
>>2490515>The people aren’t yours to play moral nanny to.>The peopleinterclass bourgeois dog whistle. you are a fascist. the proletariat matters. not "the people."
the proletariat are the reserveless immiserated propertyless surplus-value-producing subsistence-wage-earning workers. there are no more of those here. they are all labor aristocrats and fascist collaborators like you. you sit still as palestinians die by the thousand and you love it.
>>2490489Those were slaves rebelling against the Romans. The materialist conclusion that Roman citizens were happy with Roman slavery is correct. Slaves revolting against their slavers is not the same as a citizenry rejecting slavery.
>>2490493Nah the Romans never had any meaningful attempts at abolition. The proles didn't like the idea of slaves replacing them, but none of them actually wanted to free the slaves.
>>2490491>>2490492I really just wanted to save characters so I wouldn't be writing a novel about all of America's evils. We could go into a long detailed discussion specifically how Americans benefit from imperialism, but the tl;dr is America is the primary beneficiary of the current global trade system that treats the third world as its global factory and the first world as the global consumer base, where the consumer nation gets to dictate prices at the barrel of a gun. When countries rebel against this system, the US of course pulls the regime change card, and Americans are all too happy to accept it because muh gas prices, muh labubus, muh cheap steaks.
You can say "treats aren't real" all you want but the moment America has to go a week without eating meat, something that is fairly common in the rest of the world, the entire nation might collapse from mass rebellions. And I'm not saying this as some vegan propaganda, Americans consume more meat than any other country on earth. They consume more of basically everything in fact. America is a nation whose entire economy is built on consumption and mass waste. This isn't exactly the fault of the proles, as they were domesticated and conditioned to be addicted to "treats", but as we saw with Covid it's quite possibly the only thing Americans are willing to rebel against their government to protect: their right to consume the rest of the world's stuff. The temporary shutdown of global supply lines during Covid caused Americans to start murdering eachother in the streets fighting over toilet paper. I have no idea how you can argue Americans aren't overly dependent on consuming to an unhealthy degree. Even my poor friends use retail therapy as their primary means of coping with the evils of wageslavery. We genuinely need a cultural revolution to discourage and shame petty consumerism, and I'm increasingly losing patience for the American proles that refuse to change their habits and then wonder why the rest of the world hates them. Even leftists have taken the phrase "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" and twisted it into an excuse for their wasteful lifestyle just because they want to fit in with the culture of mass consumption and their growing dependence on the use of money as their only means of self-expression.
>>2490528>move out of AmericaRealistically where would you even go?
Every other Anglo country is headed the same way as the US, they're only a decade or so behind.
The British version of MAGA has literally imported US Trumpian political positions and ideology wholesale and will win the 2029 elections by a landslide.
>>2490541Yes, because those outside the West have no idea how bad it is. And many here seem to think Western workers just need to be told that capitalism sucks and communism is the answer. The downwardly mobile Westerner is far more likely to grab onto reactionary delusions (whether MAGA or Bernie social-fascism) then to become class conscious and join the global proletariat.
The only way American workers will gain revolutionary potential is if the capitalists immiserate them to 1930s levels.
>>2490541It's almost like the third world isn't gonna waste their breath critiquing American Imperialism when it's already destroying itself. First world third worldists are primarily concerned with rehabilitating America and Americans, through scolding our consumerism and appealing to Americans to be better, ie what I'm doing now that gets cpusa anon so riled up. Marxists in Sri Lanka or Brazil don't give a shit about rehabilitating Americans, just like you don't give a shit about rehabilitating Islamists. We(American Marxists) only take this position of trying to educate Americans because it is in our direct interest to not see our homeland destroyed by consumerism and greed while we're trapped in it with nowhere to go.
>>2490544>Realistically where would you even go? China is pretty accepting of Americans if you're willing to learn Mandarin. Brazilians love Americans but again you gotta learn Portuguese.
There's nowhere for westoids to go if you're unwilling to shed the shackles of the English language tho. No one wants a burger that can't even put in the bare minimum to learn the culture and language of the country they move to.
>>2490542Trump is transracial.
He’s turning Indian
>>2490523>snark cuckerbergthe fabled 6th head of
marxism third worldism?
>>2490502Because none of the original clinical diagnosis of AS remains.
High function autism no longer even meets the minimal standard for diagnostic criteria for a personality disorder let alone a cognitive disorder. It’s set of diagnostic criteria are so broad they encompass trait that are closer to universal than disordered, and they no longer require that those traits are even disruptive. As it stands, we push a great deal of so-called neurodivergent to simply be recognized as normal human behaviors. It’s a stable set of personality traits of people that are simply not typically pro-social for a particular social moment. If culture were to change, much HFA would simply disappear (whereas autism would not).
>>2490523Retarded Pedantry.
>>2490545It just goes to show that these are deeply unserious people. There’s never going to be a war from the outside that imposes “Socialism” on America and America itself already has a proletariat.
The whole of third worldist “theory” amounts to fantasies. Foreign invasion to establish socialism is rendered impossible by nuclear weapons. American as a class distinct from proletarian is just an expression of their personal disgust.
>>2490567Doesn’t this raise question why Marx didn’t move from the world imperial power to, I dunno, India?
Granted the answer is of course because this hyper-obsession with imperialism as a moral issue that precedes everything is entirely a modern invention not part of Marx’s ideas.
>>2490566>Retarded Pedantry.it's true and you have no counter argument because you are not a reserveless immiserated propertyless surplus-value-producing subsistence-wage-earning worker, but a first world labor aristocrat who feasts on the blood of dead Palestinian children for your own perverted zionist fascist gratification. You are zionist. Your party is zionist. You are an apologist for imperialism and genocide. The revolution won't be kind on you.
>>2490573>Granted the answer is of course because this hyper-obsession with imperialism as a moral issue that precedes everything is entirely a modern invention not part of Marx’s ideas.Used Marx to attack Lenin award.
>>2490579>He had no concern for accelerating the demise of Capitalism, he was just describing the world as he saw it.
>"When we returned to Germany, in spring 1848, we joined the Democratic Party as the only possible means of getting the ear of the working class; we were the most advanced wing of that party, but still a wing of it. When Marx founded the International, he drew up the General Rules in such a way that all working-class socialists of that period could join it – Proudhonists, Pierre Lerouxists and even the more advanced section of the English Trades Unions; and it was only through this latitude that the International became what it was, the means of gradually dissolving and absorbing all these minor sects, […] Had we from 1864, to 1873 insisted on working together only with those who openly adopted our platform where should we be to-day? I think that all our practice has shown that it is possible to work along with the general movement of the working class at every one of its stages without giving up or hiding our own distinct position and even organisation […]"
<Friedrich Engels, Letter to Florence Kelley Wischnewetsky, January 27, 1887Does that sound like someone with "no concern for accelerating the demise of Capitalism"? If he was "just describing the world as he saw it" he would be no more controversial than Adam Smith or David Ricardo.
>>2490577lol no we won’t. Theres not gonna be some third world uprising, let alone nuclear war you weird little guy.
>>2490584Again, further proof that third worldists are just a bizarre sect masquerading as Marxists. They’re the Branch Davidians of Marxism.
>>2490584>he would be no more controversial than Adam Smith or David Ricardo.I think that's being a bit too charitable to westoids. They hate Marx because his analysis debunks Liberalism as the end of human development, and Liberalism is the current stage of human development that thousands of "theorists" have staked their entire livelihoods on upholding.
Regarding the rest of your post, it's also unreasonable to base your worldview around how Marx lived his life. He's not Jesus, he's a flawed individual capable of living in ways that aren't solely motivated by ideology.
Regardless, if Marx moved to India he would've had a much harder time spreading his writings. Living in the cultural center of the world gives you access to privileges that an Indian couldnt've had, and Marx would likely argue that using those privileges to spread his message is more valuable, given his position in the world, than trying to liberate India, something that should be left to Indians.
This is still compatible w/ the third worldist view that the American proletariat are not innocent in their consumption habits and willingness to go along with the imperial murder machine. I mean, we have all this privilege as Americans, yet we're doing nothing with it but posting on a dying forum. There's literally so many resources for Americans to build our own revolution, free access to guns, widespread internet access with fairly trivial opsec guides widely available all over the internet, thousands of years of human history as your teacher, and yet we just sit at home continuing to consoom and waiting for a revolution like we're waiting for the Rapture. Americans have every means for creating a revolution except the willpower, so I don't see the issue with concluding they just don't want one due to being comfortable with the current state of the world.
>>2490593Wait till you find out how Lenin and Stalin funded the Red Army.
>>2490603>Regarding the rest of your post, it's also unreasonable to base your worldview around how Marx lived his life. He's not Jesus, he's a flawed individual capable of living in ways that aren't solely motivated by ideology.Regardless, if Marx moved to India he would've had a much harder time spreading his writings. Living in the cultural center of the world gives you access to privileges that an Indian couldnt've had, and Marx would likely argue that using those privileges to spread his message is more valuable, given his position in the world, than trying to liberate India, something that should be left to Indians.
The Future Results of British Rule in India<Karl Marx, 1853
>A country not only divided between Mahommedan and Hindoo, but between tribe and tribe, between caste and caste; a society whose framework was based on a sort of equilibrium, resulting from a. general repulsion and constitutional exclusiveness between all its members. Such a country and such a society, were they not the predestined prey of conquest? If we knew nothing of the past history of Hindostan, would there not be the one great and incontestable fact, that even at this moment India is held in English thraldom by an Indian army maintained at the cost of India? India, then, could not escape the fate of being conquered, and the whole of her past history, if it be anything, is the history of the successive conquests she has undergone. Indian society has no history at all, at least no known history. What we call its history, is but the history of the successive intruders who founded their empires on the passive basis of that unresisting and unchanging society. The question, therefore, is not whether the English had a right to conquer India, but whether we are to prefer India conquered by the Turk, by the Persian, by the Russian, to India conquered by the Briton.
>England has to fulfill a double mission in India: one destructive, the other regenerating the annihilation of old Asiatic society, and the laying the material foundations of Western society in Asia.
>Arabs, Turks, Tartars, Moguls, who had successively overrun India, soon became Hindooized, the barbarian conquerors being, by an eternal law of history, conquered themselves by the superior civilization of their subjects. The British were the first conquerors superior, and therefore, inaccessible to Hindoo civilization. They destroyed it by breaking up the native communities, by uprooting the native industry, and by levelling all that was great and elevated in the native society. The historic pages of their rule in India report hardly anything beyond that destruction. The work of regeneration hardly transpires through a heap of ruins. Nevertheless it has begun. >>2490616maybe we just need to recreate it
with all the israelites today
>>2490602Funding an org is different. I have been thinking about how to funnel money to movements in the periphery.
IDK maybe the best thing you can do in the imperial core is organise union bans on Israeli food.
https://youtu.be/dvAEe3jBJpI >>2490616What the fuck are u talking about
The wheel wasnt even invited in jesus's time
>>2490617By the way, Marx also enjoyed the fruits of Imperial Exploitation via cigars. You can’t claim the conditions of Cigar plantations “weren’t known”, they were—the Spanish in particular were often demonized for their forms of colonial exploitation.
“Collective guilt on the first world proletariat for colonial exploitation” is just a modern deviation. It both hilariously fails to understand how Capitalism works as well as just takes the more radical face of liberal consumer revolts.
>>2490645Genuinely what is your proposal for radicalizing the American proletariat without at some point telling them to stop consuming so much and being more conscientious of how they exploit the rest of the world? The Bernie Sanders-style Abundance Socialism doesn't exist dude. It's just imperialism in a dress. You cannot change America without also changing Americans' habit of using capitalism as their only means of existing. Americans can't have good things without either being willing to share with the rest of the world, resulting in less for us, or taking them from the rest of the world, resulting in less for everyone else. What the fuck else do you expect to happen?
Also, Marx was kind of an asshole. Don't base your life around Marx. He wrote good shit, but he was still flawed(and very much still had a eurocentric view of the world which is why it took people like Lenin and Mao to further develop his theories outside of Western Europe's Liberal lens.
>>2490662This is such an insane level of mental illness
Do you think she's fucked him? What do you think she'll do once he dies, jump in the casket as it's consumed with flames at the crematorium?
>>2490651Well all the Jewish subreddits can’t be taken as representative because the policing of Jewish anti-Zionism on Reddit is incredibly intense.
But that post feels inauthentic somehow. Trickledown? That’s such a throwback. The right doesn’t even believe in that anymore. They’re on some other shit now, they just think rich people are genetically better and the poor deserve nothing at all.
>>2490671> Americans can't have good things without either being willing to share with the rest of the world, resulting in less for us, or taking them from the rest of the world, resulting in less for everyone else. What the fuck else do you expect to happen?Read chapter 3 of
Fascism and Social Revolution by Rajani Palme Dutt, especially the section titled "The destruction of the productive forces."
https://www.marxists.org/archive/dutt/1935/fascism-social-revolution-3.pdfTL;DR Capitalism socializes production, but keeps profits private. During this historical phase capitalism is historically progressive over feudalism As capitalism matures into a global system of imperialist monopoly, capitalists become incredibly reactionary to prevent socialist revolution. One of the many things they do is deliberately destroy the productive forces. If there is a glut of anything, which is to say an oversupply that causes prices to crash, capitalists hoard or destroy the surplus commodities rather than sell them at a lower price. All the time in the US you'll read local headlines in rural areas for example, of dairy farmers destroying 10 million gallons of milk because the market is "oversupplied" meaning they would rather destroy milk than give it away for free. Literally pour it down the drain. American corporations and supermarkets throw out half of America's food and locks it in dumpsters so the homeless can't survive off of it. Police pour bleach on food left out for the homeless. Because if they give the supply away for free, demand decreases, and so do profits. The forces of production that we have already developed, let alone the superior forces of production that will be possible under socialism, have already enabled us to live in a world completely without deprivation. America could literally feed the entire planet with just the food it throws away. But I'm told over and over again on here by people who don't seem to understand this aspect of capitalism that, no, in order to save the planet from America, Americans workers will have to consume less. Should we consume less fossil fuels? Less luxury commodities? sure. But it's the richest bourgeoisie who are responsible for 50% of of the entire country's consumption. Celebrities get on private jets and fly for 10-30min. It's not the guy working 12 hours a day at wal mart doing that. Come on. If America simply gave away its own surplus commodities instead of destroying them, the world would be way better, without American workers needing to consume any less of anything. But American capitalists destroy surplus commodities, or hoard them, in hopes of fetching a better price. Just give away the surplus. But reactionaries in this country seethe when you give anything away.
>>2490648The more I get into old Marxist literature and what Marx actually wrote, the more absurd the third worldists seem.
A couple of quotes to consider. Firstly, Marx said:
>”Ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of its ruling class.”And here’s one from my old marketing professor:
>”A marketer’s job is to create demand, not just respond to it.”Third worldists insist that the proletariat bears the guilt for the iPhone, as if they asked for it before it was made and the Capitalists merely reacted to their wants. This, funny enough, goes against the stated ideas of Steve Jobs himself, who said that people don’t know what they want, he’ll tell them what they want.
What third worldists demand, the positions they take, are really no different from the liberals: “you should know better!” They’ll point to the Internet in typical liberal fashion, “oh you’ve got all the info there, you’ve got no excuses!” I’m reminded of one of the left wing critiques of RFK and MAHA; that it’s a form of soft eugenics—“we took the nasty seed oils out of your fries and replaced it with Tallow, so it’s your fault if you get sick, how dare you think others should pay for your healthcare.
Of course in Marx’s writing he lays the blame of colonialism squarely on the Bourgeoisie. They’re leading the charge after all, they’re the ones running things. Yet whether because of genuine belief in the liberal myth that our government is representative of the majority or liberal conceptions of free will and the marketplace of ideas, third worldists insist that society transcends the ruling ideas of society despite those ideas being imposed by a foreign ruling class, or that one checks out of their society entirely to chase moral purity. Hence the anon above saying western proles/socialists have some kind of moral obligation to flee to Mexico or whatever. It’s absurd, anyone who’s actually a Marxist or a collectivist can see it as absurd, but it’s ultimately unexamined liberalism. It’s from the same genus of ideas that insist if you’re poor, you’ve got to “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”.
US Amb Huckabee says Israel's army is more moral than America's: "They have taken measures to protect human life the likes of which our own country does not do."
Says death toll in Gaza is so high because Hamas "moves" civilians into Israel's targets after being warned to leave.
Q: "Is Mossad responsible for the death of Charlie Kirk?"
Ex-Mossad Chief Yossi Cohen: "Absolutely not. I mean, we have nothing to do with it. Mossad is not doing this kind of stuff. We're not involved in political assassinations. We never were."
Former Mossad Director Yossi Cohen, after denying the Mossad had anything to do with Charlie Kirk's murder or is threatening Trump, appears to say they're "capable" of doing such things, "but there are limits, and things that we never do."
"This not in our work plan. I mean this is nothing that we will ever do. I mean, taking, whatever, care of these kind of influencers.
In this 3 min clip directly proceeding the comments above, the Hasbarist podcasters asked former Mossad Director Yossi Cohen about Max Blumenthal's Charlie Kirk report, assuring him that they'll edit the segment out if he wants.
First they falsely claimed Blumenthal said in the story "that Mossad assassinated him," then whined to Cohen that the story went viral.
Cohen responded by saying he "feels sorry" for the masses who believe it, then rambled about nonsense before issuing a formal denial Mossad was involved.
"No way Mossad was involved in this kind of activity—we don't do that, we will never, and we don't do that," he said.
"Do what?" a host asked.
"Taking any part in American influencers, trying either to pay them, or to influence them, or to be part of what they do in order to make sure that they will be, as you said, an Israeli advocate or something," Cohen responded.
(Zionist billionaire Bill Ackman, who was the focus of the report, denied having threatened/pressured Kirk but admitted he paid to bring together "35 or so influencers" for "sessions" on topics including "the U.S. approach to foreign policy and Israel."
>>2490688.
>you're wasting your time reading literal bots posting from Eglin air force base.I am an older millennial who has lived in South Florida my entire life. My high school would have roads blocked off for Jewish people to go to their faith things on Saturday and my university had a lot of Zionist Jews.
I can see why you read such opinions and think they are just bots and not the norm for zionist Jews in America since you don't deal with such people often but no actually man those are normal opinions amongst Zionist Jews. They are very hateful people.
House Speaker Mike Johnson held a "private meeting" with AIPAC and Jewish leaders on Wednesday on Capitol Hill wherein he reportedly pledged to screen out "isolationist" (see: anti-Israel) GOP candidates "to prevent that wing of the party from growing larger in the House."
Rep. Tim Walberg (R-MI), who was also part of the meeting, revealed "he’d been texting recently with Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt about the proliferation of antisemitic conspiracy theories about the killing of influencer Charlie Kirk," Jewish Insider reported.
Though nearly all the participants remained mum on what went down, Rep. David Kustoff (R-TN) tweeted out an image of the room and you can make out many of the participants, including several Jewish Insider declined to name.
CUFI's Sandra Hagee Parker is on the left in yellow, and to her left is Rabbi Levi Shemtov.
Above Shemtov is Mort Klein from the Zionist Organization of America (who is helping the Trump admin w/ their anti-Semitism crackdown).
RJC's Norm Coleman can be seen on the far right
Sandra Hagee Parker put out a vague statement on Instagram (along with the attached picture) about the meeting which said that Speaker Johnson will go down in history for having "ensured that America's greatest friend and ally had the resources she needed, in her darkest hour, to fight our collective enemies."
"And to those who think we cannot 'afford' to help Israel, I assure you, the Bible teaches us the opposite is true," she added.
You can clearly make out Rep. Randy Fine (R-FL) in the picture, as well as Rep. Tim Walberg on the right
The American people should have a right to know the full contents of this meeting but the only outlet reporting on it is Jewish Insider (behind a login wall), and all we know is the limited information they've chosen to give us.
That said, based off what they told us, it's clear Johnson is aggressively working to screen out anti-Israel candidates from the GOP to suppress the will of the American people—and deny them the representation they're due—on behalf of a foreign power.
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=65038The Trump admin, through the National Endowment for the Humanities, is giving the largest grant in the agency's history—$10.4 million—to the Jewish-American neoconservative Tikvah Fund to counter "the pathology of anti-Semitism" and teach the Talmud.
Tikvah is an Israel First group dedicated to advancing "Jewish excellence," "Jewish flourishing" and "Israeli sovereignty."
It's run by CEO Eric Cohen and famed neocon Elliott Abrams
The Tikvah Fund has an upcoming Jewish leadership conference headlined by Ben Shapiro, Bari Weiss and Dan Senor, titled "Can the Jews Save the West?"
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=65039The Anti-Defamation League is thrilled with the Trump administration for taking up their Title VI "anti-Semitism" complaints against Yale University, University of Massachusetts Amherst and Scripps College.
The ADL's complaints were filed together with Zionist activist Kenneth L. Marcus' Israel First lawfare group the Brandeis Center. Marcus was Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights at the United States Department of Education from 2018 to 2020 during Trump's first term.
From The Anti-Defamation League, "U.S. Department of Education Opens Investigations into Antisemitism Complaints Against Several Colleges and Universities":
The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights (OCR) is opening investigations into complaints filed by The Louis D. Brandeis Center for Human Rights Under Law and Anti-Defamation League (ADL) against Yale University; University of Massachusetts Amherst; and Scripps College. In addition, the Department is opening complaints against American University, filed by the Brandeis Center and Jewish on Campus (JOC), and the Fulton County School District filed by the Brandeis Center and the National Jewish Advocacy Center (NJAC) for allegations of anti-Semitism against students.
[…] “There has been some concern around what changes to the Department of Education would mean for fighting campus and K-12 anti-Semitism. We are pleased to see the Department continuing to move forward rapidly on Title VI complaints, and in some cases, they are well exceeding historical norms for prompt action,” said Hon. Kenneth L. Marcus, chairman of the Brandeis Center and the former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Education who ran OCR during two administrations. “While the Anti-Semitism Task Force is investigating ten campuses and OCR has warned sixty of them, the federal government has the bandwidth and the will to expand its investigations well past the initial campuses – and they are clearly just getting started. These public-private partnerships remain vital.”
“We welcome the Department of Education’s move to open investigations into ADL and the Brandeis Center’s joint filings at UMASS Amherst; Yale University; and Scripps College,” said ADL VP of National Litigation, James Pasch. “The experiences of the Jewish students at these institutions have been emblematic of what we have seen across the country, and that must change, and it must change now. Jewish students being threatened, harassed, and in some instances assaulted, have no place on our campuses, and we hope these investigations will yield positive changes that reverberates on campuses coast-to-coast.”
“Jewish students deserve equal access to a safe campus environment. American University has failed to provide that, so we took action,” said Jewish on Campus CEO and Co-Founder Julia Jassey. “We welcome this investigation from the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, which we expect to hold the university administration accountable and lead to a safer campus environment for all. We also echo the call from students that with impending changes and restructuring to the Department of Education, the federal government must continue to protect the rights of and access to educational opportunities for students from all protected backgrounds.”
“We are thrilled that the Department of Education has opened an investigation into Fulton County, and we are encouraged that the OCR is not falling for the typical excuses,” said Mark Goldfeder, CEO of NJAC. “There is a difference between protected political speech and thinly-veiled anti-Semitism, and this case highlights the very real danger of what can happen when perpetrators and administrators alike are allowed to confuse speech with acts and conflate politics with demonizing and discriminatory hatred. God willing the final result will be a safer space for all.”
The Trump administration has taken the same exact position and now appears to be working together with the ADL to arrest critics of Israel and have them jailed and deported.
A US District Judge in January threw out and mocked a "disingenuous" Title VI discrimination lawsuit against Haverford College from a Jewish lawfare group seeking to silence criticism of Israel on their campus but a host of other similar suits were filed in jurisdictions all over the country, some of which were successful and some of which are still ongoing.
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64884CyberWell, an Israeli intel-linked org, is now working as a "trusted partner" with "all major social media platforms" to censor "anti-Semitism," their CEO boasts.
HALF the content they flag is taken down and their reports have been responsible for "removing well over 300,000 pieces of content," CEO Tal-Or Cohen Montemayor tells Israeli TV.
She says they're using "AI" to "identify anti-Semitism" and their work will help platforms "automatically flag and remove hate speech."
"Only" 1 in 3 Jews reports anti-Semitic content, she notes, urging others to do more.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberWellPalantir CEO Alex Karp was given an award from the American Friends of Chabad Lubavitch on Tuesday in DC.
He told them that Jews are going to have to "leave their comfort zone" to find new ways to fight anti-Semitism, as their current tactics "are kind of not working."
Some critics of Jews suffer from "Jewish derangement syndrome," he said.
"We have to fight for a rule of law, meritocratic, high-agency society, and everybody's going to have to help out, and that includes people who don't like to ever speak out—finance, Hollywood, all sorts of other people," he said, as reported by Jewish Insider.
Of course, Palantir would hardly exist if we had a meritocracy, let alone be trading at 778 times earnings
Hakeem Jeffries was also given an award from the American Friends of Chabad during a pre-ceremony.
The attendees list is rather remarkable packed with powerful politicians and figures.
https://jewishinsider.com/2025/09/palantir-ceo-alex-karp-chabad-lamplighter-awards-jews-antisemitism/NEW YORK, Sept 21 (Reuters) - Portugal's Foreign Affairs Minister Paulo Rangel announced on Sunday that the country has now recognised the state of Palestine.
"The recognition of the state of Palestine is the realization of a fundamental, constant, and fundamental line of Portuguese foreign policy," Rangel told reporters at the headquarters of Portugal's permanent mission to the United Nations in New York.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/portugal-formally-recognises-palestinian-state-minister-says-2025-09-21/France's Macron defends decision to recognize Palestinian statehood
Simply killing as many Hamas members as possible cannot be the only solution, the French president said.
“If we want peace and security for all in the region, we have to preserve the condition of a political perspective for everybody,” Macron said. “Recognizing the Palestinian state today is the only way to provide a political solution to a situation which has to stop.”
Secretary of State Marco Rubio said France’s proclamation is a “reckless decision.” Macron called the criticism “excessive.”
“Hamas is just obsessed by destroying Israel, but I recognize the legitimacy of so many Palestinian people who want a state, who are a people,” said Macron. “They want a nation, they want a state, and we should not push them toward Hamas. If we don’t offer them a political perspective and such a recognition, the unique answer will be security, and they will be completely trapped by Hamas.”
Macron said he doesn’t think France’s decision has hurt the nation’s relationship with the U.S., adding his objective is to engage with the administration on what France has in mind for a “full-fledged peace and security plan for all.”
But simply killing as many Hamas members as possible cannot be the only solution, Macron said. “At the beginning of this war, you had more or less 25,000 Hamas fighters,” Macron told Brennan. “The Israeli army killed probably half of them, but Hamas managed to recruit the equivalent. You have as many fighters.”
France’s recognition is part of a three-pronged plan. The second phase is a ceasefire with the release of all hostages. The third, he said, is the perspective of two states, Palestine and Israel.
“Recognizing this right to have a Palestinian state through a diplomatic channel, this just giving another channel and offering a political way and isolating Hamas,” Macron said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/21/macron-defends-decision-recognize-palestinian-statehood-00574577France and Saudi Arabia will convene dozens of world leaders on Monday to rally support for a two-state solution, with several of them expected to formally recognize a Palestinian state - a move that could draw harsh Israeli and US responses.
Israel and the United States will boycott the summit, said Israel’s UN Ambassador Danny Danon, describing the event as a “circus.” “We don't think it's helpful. We think it's actually rewarding terrorism,” he told reporters on Thursday.
Israel is considering annexing part of the West Bank as a possible response as well as specific bilateral measures against Paris, Israeli officials have said.
The US administration has also warned of possible consequences for those who take measures against Israel, including against France, whose president, Emmanuel Macron, is hosting the New York summit.
The General Assembly endorsed a seven-page declaration this month outlining "tangible, timebound, and irreversible steps" towards a two-state solution, while also condemning Hamas and calling it to surrender and disarm.
Those efforts drew immediate rebukes from Israel and the United States, calling them harmful and a publicity stunt.
"The New York Declaration is not a vague promise for the distant future, but rather a roadmap that begins with the top priorities: a ceasefire, the release of hostages, and the unimpeded entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza," France's Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot told reporters on Thursday.
Britain, Canada, Australia and Portugal all recognized a Palestinian state on Sunday. France and five other states are expected to also formally recognize a Palestinian state on Monday.
Some have said there would be conditions and others have said normalization of diplomatic ties would be phased and dependent on how the Palestinian Authority advances in its promises to reform.
Abbas and dozens of Palestinian officials will not be there in person. The US, a staunch Israeli ally, refused to issue visas and he is due to appear via video.
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is not attending despite co-hosting the event. The General Assembly agreed on Friday - by consensus, without a vote - that he could appear via video at Monday's meeting.
"The world is saying out loud a Palestinian state and we need to materialize it. Now they need to show what these measures are," Palestinian Foreign Minister Varsen Aghabekian Shahin told reporters on Sunday
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-868328Singapore will reconsider position on recognising Palestine state if situation deteriorates
SINGAPORE: Singapore will reconsider its position on recognising a Palestinian state if the situation continues to deteriorate, or if Israel takes further steps to extinguish a two-state solution, Minister for Foreign Affairs Vivian Balakrishnan said in parliament on Monday (Sep 22).
Singapore has always supported a negotiated two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict
"We will recognise the State of Palestine when it has an effective government that accepts Israel’s right to exist and categorically renounces terrorism," Dr Balakrishnan said in his ministerial statement.
Singapore will impose targeted sanctions on the leaders of radical right-wing settler groups or organisations responsible for acts of violence against Palestinians in the West Bank, said Dr Balakrishnan on Monday, adding that details will be announced at a later date.
Singapore has consistently held the view that Israeli settlements are illegal under international law, and has voted in support of United Nations (UN) resolutions that reject Israeli settlement activities and call on Israel to “rescind all unilateral measures” seeking to change the status of Jerusalem, he added.
“We call on the Israeli government to cease settlement construction and expansion. We oppose ongoing attempts to create new facts on the ground which undermine the prospects for a two-state solution."
Israel’s actions in Gaza have gone too far for too long, said Dr Balakrishnan.
“Israel’s military operations, which have recently intensified in Gaza City, have exacerbated the prolonged, desperate suffering of innocent civilians. This is unconscionable,” he said.
The scale of civilian death is “harrowing”, with more than 60,000 people have reportedly been killed, a third of them children. “Singapore condemns the killing of innocent civilians,” Dr Balakrishnan said.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is “shocking”, the foreign affairs minister added, noting that Gaza is dangerously close to famine levels, which was “entirely preventable”.
“The deliberate and unlawful denial of humanitarian aid to a civilian population is completely unacceptable,” he added.
“In our view, these excessive actions by the Israeli government may even be a breach of international humanitarian law.”
Currently, the Palestinian Authority administers the Occupied Palestinian Territories in the West Bank, but does not control Gaza, said Dr Balakrishnan, noting that Hamas “violently seized” Gaza from the Palestinian Authority in June 2007.
There has not been a unified Palestinian government that exercises “effective control” in Palestinian territories, including both the West Bank and Gaza for the last 18 years at least, he added. “What will happen in Gaza after the ceasefire is unclear.”
Hamas has also consistently rejected Israel’s right to exist, said the foreign affairs minister, adding that it has yet to renounce terrorism or agree to disarm.
Singapore enjoys good relations with the Palestinian Authority, and welcomes its commitment to renounce terrorism, carry out reforms and disarm Hamas, said Dr Balakrishnan.
Singapore has also “consistently” affirmed the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and their own state, as seen in the country’s voting record at the UN, he noted.
“However, it remains to be seen whether the Palestinian Authority can really disarm and displace Hamas from Gaza.”
So far, Singapore has maintained its position while doing as much as it can to help the Palestinian Authority strengthen its capabilities, he added.
“Singapore’s support for a two-state solution means that we will oppose any steps by Israel to extinguish or undermine such a solution,” said the minister.
“Singapore cannot recognise any unilateral annexation of occupied territory because this would be a flagrant breach of international law.”
Singapore will contribute more to international efforts to alleviate civilian suffering in Gaza, said Dr Balakrishnan, noting that Singapore has contributed 10 tranches of humanitarian aid, bringing the total humanitarian assistance to more than S$24 million.
In the 10th tranche, Singapore will support Egyptian hospitals treating injured Palestinians. A team of Singaporean doctors and clinicians is currently in Cairo to support the Nasser Institute in case consultations, and the Singapore Armed Forces has deployed two liaison officers in Cairo to coordinate Singapore’s assistance in-theatre.
Singapore is working to deploy another medical team there when the conditions are conducive, he added.
Under Jordan’s Restoring Hope Initiative for Gaza, Singapore will provide prosthetic supplies for about 100 Palestinian amputees being treated in Jordan and at Jordanian field hospitals in Gaza.
Singapore will also contribute US$500,000 to the World Food Programme’s efforts to fight hunger in Gaza, said the foreign affairs minister.
Concluding his speech, Dr Balakrishnan noted that territorial and political compromise is essential “if this conflict is ever to be resolved”.
“The Israeli people and Palestinian people both exist as an objective reality. Both have claims to a sovereign state in their ancestral homeland. There can be no ‘river-to-the sea’ for either side, because if you really tried to effect that, some terrible consequences follow from that, logically,” he added.
“As a friend to the people on both sides, we can only hope that in time, there will be the political will, there will be inspired leadership on both sides to enter into direct negotiations on a two-state solution, consistent with the relevant UNSC (UN Security Council) resolutions.”
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/singapore-palestine-state-israel-gaza-war-5361211>>2490691It has nothing to do with guilt or morality. The American and other Western workers were bought off after WW2 with a massive redistribution of wealth to kill off momentum towards socialism. Once socialism was on the ropes porkie bought in neoliberalism and took the wealth back. Western workers want to RETVRN to the good old days and support either reactionary conservatives like Trump or reactionary progressives like Bernie.
The only true treatlerites are the ones who understand this consciously and still support Western Imperialism. The average worker just has a petty bourgeois false consciousness, but that isn’t getting broken until they have been utterly impoverished (see Stalin’s story of the shoemaker).
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
People’s Republic of China
Wang Yi: The International Community Should Adhere to "Three Imperatives" on the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict
On September 19, 2025, Member of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee and Foreign Minister Wang Yi expounded China's views on the current Palestinian-Israeli conflict during his talks with Moroccan Foreign Minister Nasser Bourita in Beijing.
Wang Yi said, having dragged on for two years, the conflict has caused an unprecedented humanitarian disaster and breached the bottom line of human conscience. China is deeply concerned and expresses deep regret. Israel insists on advancing its plan to take over Gaza City, launches airstrikes targeted at Hamas members who are planning peace talks in Qatar, and at the same time accelerates its encroachment on the territory of the West Bank. These actions seriously violate the norms of international law. They are not only of no benefit to building their own security, but also put the two-State solution at risk and directly undermine the stability of the Middle East region.
Force cannot bring peace, and violence cannot lead to security. Historical experience has repeatedly proven that security should be shared, and no country can build its own security on the insecurity of other countries. Israel has the right to establish a state, and so does Palestine. There should be no double standards on this. It has been nearly 80 years since the founding of Israel, yet the Palestinian people still have no place to settle. This situation is unsustainable. The lives of the Israeli people and the Arab people are equally precious, and neither should be deemed as superior to the other. Both deserve respect and need care. Violence in response to violence will only create and accumulate new hatred.
Wang Yi stressed that in the face of the current emergency situation, the international community should unite. First, it is imperative to promote a comprehensive ceasefire in Gaza with the greatest sense of urgency to alleviate the current humanitarian disaster. Countries that have a special influence on Israel should take on their responsibilities earnestly, and the United Nations Security Council and humanitarian agencies should also fulfill their duties. Second, it is imperative to truly implement the principle of "Palestinians governing Palestine". Gaza and the West Bank are both inalienable territories of Palestine. Any post-war governance and reconstruction arrangements should respect the will of the Palestinian people and safeguard the legitimate rights of the Palestinian nation. Third, it is imperative to firmly uphold the two-State solution, pool greater international consensus and form a more unified stance. On the basis of recognizing the State of Palestine, Wang Yi called for supporting Palestine's full membership in the United Nations, and seeking feasible paths to advance the two-State solution, while rejecting any unilateral actions that erode the foundation of the two-State solution.
Wang Yi said, China has always firmly supported the just cause of the Palestinian people to restore their legitimate national rights. China will remain committed to a ceasefire and end of war in Gaza, and promote an early, comprehensive, just and lasting resolution of the Palestinian question based on relevant United Nations resolutions and the two-State solution.
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/wjbzhd/202509/t20250921_11712596.htmlModi urges Indians to get rid of foreign products amid strained US ties
After U.S. President Donald Trump imposed a 50% tariff on imported Indian goods, Modi has been urging use of "Swadeshi", or made-in-India goods. His supporters have started campaigns to boycott American brands including McDonald's (MCD.N), opens new tab, Pepsi (PEP.O), opens new tab and Apple (AAPL.O), opens new tab, which are hugely popular in India.
"A lot of products we use daily are foreign made, we just don't know … we will have to get rid of them," Modi said in an address to the nation ahead of Monday's implementation of widespread consumer tax cuts.
"We should buy products that are made in India," he added, without naming any country.
Modi also asked shopkeepers to focus on retailing made-in-India products, arguing that this will boost the country's economic growth.
In recent weeks, many companies have increased the promotion of local goods.
India's Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal is expected to visit, opens new tab Washington soon for trade talks, a trip that would take place amid efforts to ease strained bilateral ties.
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/modi-urges-indians-get-rid-foreign-products-amid-strained-us-ties-2025-09-21/Saudi Arabia has conveyed a message to Israel that there will be “major implications in all fields” if it annexes any part of the West Bank, according to a Sunday report.
Channel 12 said Riyadh did not delineate what steps it might take, but it could declare the prospect of Saudi-Israeli normalization dead, or once again close its airspace to Israeli flights after opening it in 2022.
Annexation could also harm the under-the-radar security and trade relations between the two countries. The report also said annexation risks endangering the Abraham Accords.
The United Arab Emirates has previously warned that Israeli annexation would be a “red line,” jeopardize the Abraham Accords, and end the pursuit of regional integration.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s far-right allies have pushed him to annex the West Bank or parts of it in response to the moves by multiple Western nations to recognize Palestinian statehood this week, due to their anger over Israel’s handling of the two-year-old war in Gaza.
People around US President Donald Trump have indicated that they do not wish to see annexation, the TV report added. “It’s the last thing they need,” according to reporter Dana Weiss, especially after Israel’s September 9 strike on Hamas leaders in US ally Qatar.
Channel 12 said Saudi officials will discuss how the war in Gaza can be brought to an end and scenarios for the “day after” with Trump on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly this week, along with leaders from the UAE, Qatar, Jordan, Egypt, and Turkey.
Trump will also hold a separate session with Gulf leaders — from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain and Kuwait — who want to hear his stance on the Qatar strike.
Netanyahu held a meeting Sunday to discuss possible responses to Western countries recognizing a Palestinian state. Potential responses include changing the classification of parts of the West Bank’s Area A to Area B — revoking Palestinian security control over those areas, leaving only Palestinian civil control; and changing parts of Area B to become Area C — meaning revoking Palestinian civil control and changing to full Israeli control.
Other responses could include closing the consulates of some countries that recognize an independent state of Palestine, particularly that of France.
Far-right ministers Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben Gvir were reportedly not invited to the meeting.
At the meeting, Netanyahu and Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer stressed that no matter what, full coordination with the US must be maintained.
As such, no decision will be made until Netanyahu returns from his meeting with Trump next week, the prime minister said.
The Channel 12 report said Netanyahu told visiting US Secretary of State Mario Rubio last week that he is under coalition pressure to annex Area C, which constitutes 60 percent of the West Bank.
Rubio reportedly responded that the focus right now needs to be on ending the war in Gaza and getting back the hostages, and nothing else.
For Netanyahu, whose coalition relies on right-wing nationalist parties, annexation could be seen as a valuable vote-winner before an election expected next year.
Senior European officials have indicated to Israel that further states are gearing up to recognize Palestine, and have warned that Israeli annexation would be considered “collective punishment” of the Palestinians, and would endanger the Abraham Accords, the TV channel said.
"Israel will be making a mistake if it responds to our recognition [of a Palestinian state] with harsh diplomatic steps,” it quoted European officials as telling Israel. “It would be unfortunate if we were dragged into a further response. We will not take annexation lying down.”
“If Netanyahu and his government are interested in destroying the stable thing we have built in the Middle East, they will bear the consequences.”
Last week, Reuters reported that while the UAE may downgrade its diplomatic ties with Israel if Netanyahu’s government annexes part or all of the West Bank, it was not weighing the option of severing the relationship completely, three sources briefed on the Gulf Arab state’s deliberations told Reuters Thursday.
But the Ynet news outlet later cited unnamed Gulf officials who pushed back on the report. “If Israel carries out annexation, any annexation, all options are on the table…including the most severe ones,” the sources were quoted as saying, referring to the possibility of severing ties with Israel.
The sources stressed that any form of annexation would be a red line as far as Abu Dhabi was concerned, and would pose an “immediate” danger to the future of Israel-UAE relations.
The UAE is one of just a few Arab states with diplomatic relations with Israel and downgrading ties would be a major setback for the Abraham Accords — a signature foreign policy achievement of Trump and Netanyahu
In a sign of growing tension with Israel, the Gulf state last week decided to bar Israeli defense companies from exhibiting at the Dubai Airshow in November, three of the sources said. Two other sources, an Israeli official and an Israeli defense industry executive, confirmed the decision.
Finance Minister Smotrich this month said that maps were being drawn up to annex most of the West Bank, urging Netanyahu to accept the plan. Itamar Ben-Gvir, the national security minister, also backs annexing the territory.
After establishing ties, the UAE and Israel built a close relationship, focusing on economic, security, and intelligence cooperation. This followed years of discreet contacts.
But differences began emerging after Netanyahu returned to power in 2023 at the head of what has been described as the most right-wing government in Israel’s history. Abu Dhabi has condemned repeated efforts by Ben Gvir to alter the status quo of Jerusalem’s Temple Mount, also called the Al Aqsa compound, to allow Jews to be able to pray there. The site is sacred to Muslims and Jews, and at present, non-Muslims can visit but cannot pray.
The UAE has also criticized Israel’s policies in the West Bank and its military operation in Gaza, which began in October 2023 after the Hamas-led massacre of 1,200 people, mostly civilians, during the terror group’s invasion of southern Israel.
Abu Dhabi has said that an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel was necessary for regional stability. Netanyahu this month declared there will never be a Palestinian state.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/saudis-said-to-warn-israel-move-to-annex-west-bank-would-be-a-red-lineNorth Korea's Kim says open to talks if US drops denuclearization demand
SEOUL (Reuters) – North Korea's Kim Jong Un said there was no reason to avoid talks with the U.S. if Washington stopped insisting his country give up nuclear weapons, but he would never abandon the nuclear arsenal to end sanctions, state media reported on Monday.
"Personally, I still have fond memories of U.S. President (Donald) Trump," KCNA reported the North Korean leader saying in a speech at the Supreme People's Assembly on Sunday. The two leaders met three times during Trump's first presidency.
Kim's comments come as the new liberal government in Seoul urges Trump to take the lead in reopening dialogue with Kim, six years after all peace talks with Pyongyang collapsed over sanctions and nuclear dismantlement.
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SEOUL (Reuters) – North Korea's Kim Jong Un said there was no reason to avoid talks with the U.S. if Washington stopped insisting his country give up nuclear weapons, but he would never abandon the nuclear arsenal to end sanctions, state media reported on Monday.
"Personally, I still have fond memories of U.S. President (Donald) Trump," KCNA reported the North Korean leader saying in a speech at the Supreme People's Assembly on Sunday. The two leaders met three times during Trump's first presidency.
Kim's comments come as the new liberal government in Seoul urges Trump to take the lead in reopening dialogue with Kim, six years after all peace talks with Pyongyang collapsed over sanctions and nuclear dismantlement.
"If the United States drops the absurd obsession with denuclearizing us and accepts reality, and wants genuine peaceful coexistence, there is no reason for us not to sit down with the United States," Kim was quoted as saying.
It is the first time Kim has mentioned Trump by name since the U.S. president's inauguration in January, said Rachel Minyoung Lee, a North Korea expert with the U.S.-based Stimson Center.
"This is an overture," she said. "It is Kim's invitation to Trump to rethink U.S. policy on denuclearization, the implication being that if the U.S. drops denuclearization, he could sit face-to-face with Trump."
Kim's warm words toward Trump were a contrast with his strident assertion that he will never give up nuclear weapons or engage in dialogue with South Korea, which he has designated a main enemy.
It was a matter of survival for North Korea to build nuclear weapons to safeguard its security against grave threats from the United States and South Korea, Kim said, listing a series of regular military drills by the allies that he said had evolved into exercises for nuclear war.
South Korean President Lee Jae Myung said in an interview with Reuters that North Korea was building 15 to 20 nuclear bombs a year and any deal that froze that manufacturing would be a useful step towards eventually dismantling the program altogether.
"Based on that, we can proceed to medium-term negotiations for nuclear weapons reductions, and in the long run, once mutual trust is restored and North Korea's regime-security concerns are reduced, we can pursue denuclearization," he said.
Kim bluntly rejected any phased plan, saying recent overtures from Washington and Seoul for dialogue were disingenuous because their fundamental intent to weaken the North and destroy his regime remained unchanged, and that Lee's phased plan was proof of that.
"The world already knows full well what the United States does after it makes a country give up its nuclear weapons and disarms," Kim said. "We will never give up our nuclear weapons."
Kim said sanctions had been "a learning experience" and made his country stronger and more resilient.
North Korea has been under U.N. sanctions and arms embargoes since its first nuclear test in 2006. But while the sanctions have squeezed funding for military development, Pyongyang has continued to make advances in building nuclear weapons and powerful ballistic missiles.
"The reality is that the previous approach of sanctions and pressure has not solved the problem; it has worsened it," South Korea's Lee told Reuters.
Lee had urged Trump to try and meet Kim when the U.S. president visits South Korea next month for an Asia-Pacific summit, but the Stimson Center's Lee said Kim's remarks seemed aimed at blocking the South's involvement.
"Perhaps he wants to get ahead of the Lee government and dissuade the Trump administration from cooperating with South Korea by reiterating that South Korea is a separate country and, therefore, cannot be a party to the North Korean nuclear issue," she said.
The South Korean president said Pyongyang was refusing to talk to the South and he did not believe North Korea and the United States were having concrete discussions, but he believed the phased approach remained the realistic option.
"Our main task now is to create the conditions for dialogue," Lee said.
https://asia.nikkei.com/spotlight/north-korea-tensions/north-korea-s-kim-says-open-to-talks-if-us-drops-denuclearization-demand>Israeli Settlers Storm Al-Aqsa, Hold Prayers for US Activist Charlie KirkDozens of Israeli settlers entered the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem on Sunday, holding prayers for the late U.S. right-wing activist Charlie Kirk, local media reported.
The Hebrew-language outlet Srugim reported that far-right Rabbi and former Knesset member Yehuda Glick led the ceremony. Glick has long advocated for expanding Jewish access to the contested holy site.
Kirk, a prominent conservative voice known for backing US President Donald Trump and Israel, was fatally shot in the neck while giving a speech at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10.
The Palestinian news agency Wafa said settlers entered Al-Aqsa in groups, performing religious rituals, singing, and dancing inside the courtyards as preparations for the Jewish New Year intensified. It warned that settler groups are mobilizing to bring larger numbers to the compound during the holiday.
The Israeli army announced Saturday that it would send reinforcements to the occupied West Bank amid rising tensions.
Jerusalem’s Islamic Endowments Directorate said violations at Al-Aqsa have sharply escalated since Itamar Ben-Gvir became Israel’s national security minister in late 2022.
Al-Aqsa is the third-holiest site in Islam, while Jews call the area the Temple Mount, believing it once housed two ancient Jewish temples. Israel took control over East Jerusalem in 1967 and annexed it in 1980, a move not recognized by the international community. Palestinians view settler incursions as part of a broader effort to Judaize the city and diminish its Arab and Islamic character.
https://barlamantoday.com/2025/09/22/israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-hold-prayers-for-us-activist-charlie-kirk/ Iran expects China to implement global governance initiative in practice: Pezeshkian
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says the Islamic Republic expects China to do more to implement its “valuable” initiative regarding global governance to promote multilateralism and counter unilateralism.
Pezeshkian made the remarks in a recent interview with China Central Television (CCTV) during his visit to Beijing, where he attended the 25th Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit.
He expressed admiration for Chinese President Xi Jinping's vision of global governance, which emphasizes equal interaction among nations, regardless of their size or wealth.
He said Iran and China should adhere to “what is today referred to as governance or the proposals that have been previously raised, including global security, global peace, global development, and global civilization,” and implement them in practice.
China, which is leading such a policy, is expected to prepare the ground for achieving its lofty goals, he added.
Otherwise, the United States and Israeli regime will continue with their adventurism in the region, bombing any opposition and assassinating political leaders, ordinary people, and scientists, the Iranian president warned.
He noted that historical relations between Iran and China date back several thousand years, and the two countries have very ancient and deep-rooted civilization.
Pezeshkian pointed to double standards in dealing with countries in the world and said, “The Zionist regime violates every law and takes any action, but no one stops it."
However, he emphasized, if another country wants to take an action, all international organizations and European countries will immediately accuse that state of disregarding regulations and human rights.
He said the Israeli regime blocks the access of people of a land to water, food, and bread before the eyes of the world, allowing them to die from weakness.
Pezeshkian criticized countries that claim to play a global role and defend human rights in the United Nations for supporting the Israeli regime instead of preventing its crimes, saying, “This double standard is absolutely unacceptable."
He noted that the Chinese president’s global governance proposal is one of the fundamental principles of adherence to the law, which should not be double-edged.
Elsewhere in his remarks, the president said Iran did not and does not have any issues with the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and inspections of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
However, the IAEA released false information and inaccurate reports about Iran under pressure from European countries and their lobbies, which led to the issuance of unreal resolutions and a tarnished image of the Islamic Republic, Pezeshkian explained.
"This is while the highest level of inspections in the world has been applied to Iran's nuclear activities, and this volume of inspections has been unprecedented,” he emphasized.
He said Iran has allowed the IAEA to inspect all the necessary facilities, and the Agency’s inspectors have conducted inspections multiple times.
“Therefore, there is no reason for facilities that are run in accordance with the views of the International Atomic Energy Agency and are under its supervision to be bombed. This action is completely against international law,” he added.
He reiterated the peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear activities and emphasized that Tehran has no plan to act in violation of the IAEA frameworks.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/09/21/755454/Pezeshkian-Iran-global-governance-initiative-Senior Hamas official calls for concrete actions following recognition of Palestinian statehood
In a statement on Sunday, Hamdan said Zionist regime’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu is seeking to prolong the war in Gaza, emphasizing that neither Israel nor the United States appears willing to support a diplomatic resolution.
"Israel does not want the war to end, does not want negotiations, and we do not trust it," Hamdan stated, underlining his concerns about the lack of genuine engagement from both parties.
He expressed hope that the acknowledgment of Palestinian statehood would pave the way for tangible actions to facilitate the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state, calling for pressure on Zionist regime to cease its military operations in Gaza.
Hamdan further criticized Netanyahu, stating that the Zionist regime’s leadership is leading the nation toward collapse and remains overconfident in believing that the Palestinian struggle can be defeated.
"The Palestinian state will be established with Al-Quds as its capital," he declared, noting that the future of the so-called "Zionist entity" remains bleak.
He concluded by emphasizing that any resolution to the current crisis must involve a comprehensive agreement to end the occupation, halt ongoing aggression, and empower the Palestinian people to realize their independent state.
A growing number of countries are officially recognizing Palestine as an independent state, amid mounting international outrage over Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza.
On Sunday, Portugal officially recognized the State of Palestine, joining the UK, Canada, and Australia in this landmark decision made ahead of the United Nations General Assembly this week.
Announcements from major Western powers and longtime Zionist regime’s allies signal the regime’s increasing international isolation amid its genocidal war on Gaza.
While recognition of Palestine is largely symbolic, it highlights growing global support for Palestine and its statehood.
Critics, however, argue that such moves from countries that are financially and militarily backing Zionist regime are a tactic to maintain their support for Tel Aviv while appearing to side with international public opinion.
https://qodsna.com/en/408650/Senior-Hamas-official-calls-for-concrete-actions-following-recognition-of-Palestinian-statehood>>2490751>>2490753read this comrade's analysis
>>2490388I think you'll find it interesting.
Palestinian Foreign Minister Varsen Aghabekian Shahin said countries recognising a Palestinian state this week were taking an irreversible step that preserved the two-state solution and brought Palestinian independence and sovereignty closer.
“Now is the time. Tomorrow is a historic date we need to build on. It’s not the end,” Shahin told reporters in Ramallah.
“It is a move bringing us closer to sovereignty and independence. It might not end the war tomorrow, but it’s a move forward, which we need to build on and amplify,” she said, referring to Israel’s nearly two-year military campaign in Gaza.
Shahin said that Israel had no intention of negotiating, citing Netanyahu’s remarks at a ceremony this month to build a new settlement in the Israeli-occupied West Bank that would cut off northern Palestinian communities from those in the south.
“This recognition is certainly not symbolic. It is a practical, tangible, irreversible step that countries must take if they are invested in preserving the two-state solution,” Shahin said.
Shahin said political pressure on Israel must shift to economic measures “to hold Israel accountable and protect the Palestinian people.”
“Today, Gaza burns. Today, Gaza is destroyed. Today in Gaza, people are systematically murdered,” Shahin said, accusing Israel of perpetrating genocide in Gaza, an allegation Israel denies.
https://21stcenturychronicle.com/recognition-brings-independence-sovereignty-closer-palestinian-foreign-minister/Bill targeting antisemitism in classrooms presents test for Newsom
Lawmakers unanimously passed a bill last week directed at eliminating antisemitism in California classrooms, but Gov. Gavin Newsom is likely to anger some of his strongest supporters no matter which way he lands on the measure.
The measure puts Newsom in the awkward position of potentially cracking down on classroom speech at the same moment President Donald Trump is using alleged antisemitism by California educators as pretext to enact sweeping retaliatory measures against state universities.
AB715 by Assembly Member Rick Chavez Zbur, D-Los Angeles, would allow students and their parents, as well as school officials, to accuse teachers of unfairly attacking the Israeli government, complaints that would authorize a newly established state Antisemitism Prevention Coordinator to conduct an investigation and initiate disciplinary action.
One Bay Area high school teacher said the measure, though not yet law, has already impacted how he discusses current events with students.
One of his students, he said, recently attended a pro-Palestinian rally, heard angry protests from pro-Israel counterdemonstrators, approached him the next day and asked, “Why are they doing this?” apparently referring to the counterprotests. The teacher, who had not attended the protests, said he was afraid to respond candidly.
“I have to teach about it. The (proposed) law tells me that if I include Palestinian perspectives, that’s supposedly illegal,” said the teacher, who requested anonymity for fear of retaliation, in keeping with the Chronicle’s policy on anonymous sources. “There could be a complaint lodged against me … for supposedly creating an antisemitic environment.”
“I’m worried about my job,” said another instructor, Gabriel Kahn, who teaches eighth-grade humanities classes in Oakland and testified against AB715 at a committee hearing in May. Kahn, who is Jewish, said this week he is already under investigation for his comments in December at an antisemitism training session, where he drew a distinction between antisemitism and anti-Zionism, and fears retribution if the bill becomes law.
Backers of the legislation say those fears are overblown
“The bill does not define antisemitism (as anti-Zionism). We were very intentional about that,” state Sen. Scott Wiener, co-chair of the Legislative Jewish Caucus and a co-author of AB715, told the Chronicle.
Opponents argue the absence of a definition clears the way for abuse.
Because the legislation does not define antisemitism, said Seth Morrison, a leader in the anti-Zionist group Jewish Voice for Peace group’s Bay Area chapter, it “leaves everything open to interpretation.”
Wiener said the measure was a response to incidents such as a Marin County high school teacher’s remark to students that “we have too many Jews in the district” and “does not include, in any way, teaching of current events, including the war in Gaza, but simply promotes the policy that schools should be a welcoming place for everyone.”
David Bocarsly, executive director of the Jewish Public Affairs Committee, a sponsor of the bill, said AB715 would not “silence criticism of Israel. It focuses on protecting Jewish students from discrimination, bullying and harassment.”
But the bill would clearly increase California’s authority to take action against school employees for actions judged to be antisemitic — using a standard that encompasses at least some criticism of Israel’s government.
It was passed amid Trump’s escalating investigations of alleged antisemitism in California educational institutions, particularly targeting the University of California.
Last month, Trump demanded $1 billion from the university to settle complaints about its handling of claims of antisemitism at UCLA. Attorney General Pam Bondi told then-UC President Michael Drake in July that the Department of Justice determined the school had violated Jewish students’ 14th Amendment rights, as well as the Civil Rights Act, by not adequately responding to complaints about harassment and discrimination.
Newsom immediately promised a court battle against what he called a “billion-dollar political shakedown.”
“There’s principles, there’s right and wrong, and we’ll do the right thing. And what President Trump is doing is wrong, and everybody knows it,” Newsom said last month.
On Monday, UC President James Milliken said Trump was investigating all 10 campuses at the university.
UC Berkeley reported last week that it had turned over to the Trump administration the names of 160 students, faculty and staff, along with information about their “potential connection to reports of alleged antisemitism,” to cooperate with a federal investigation.
At the public-school level, congressional Republicans have alleged that some local districts are hotbeds of antisemitism. Two pro-Israel organizations, the Anti-Defamation League and the Louis D. Brandeis Center for Human Rights Under Law, have filed complaints with the U.S. Department of Education accusing the Berkeley Unified School district of ignoring “severe and persistent harassment” of Jewish students
The Department of Education also opened an investigation into the Oakland Unified School District in January 2024, during President Joe Biden’s administration. Officials in the districts have denied encouraging or allowing discrimination, and House Democrats have described the complaints as partisan grandstanding.
AB715 breezed through the Legislature last week on votes of 35-0 in the state Senate and 75-0 in the Assembly despite opposition from the California Teachers Association, the California School Boards Association, the American Civil Liberties Union and other labor and civil rights organizations that have historically been some of Newsom’s strongest supporters.
“It is going to scare teachers into not talking about Israel and Palestine,” said Morrison, of Jewish Voice for Peace. “That’s already happening.”
Under AB715, said Mohamed Shehk, organizing director of the San Francisco-based Arab Resource and Organizing Center, a public schoolteacher who discussed Israel’s treatment of its Palestinian residents or its mass killings in Gaza could be investigated by the Antisemitism Prevention Coordinator and be reprimanded, suspended or fired.
California already has laws to investigate and penalize school employees for discrimination based on race, religion or gender, Shehk said, but “this opens the floodgates.”
“Antisemitism is real,” said another opponent of the bill, Jessica Rodarte, a high school ethnic studies teacher in Los Angeles and a board member of the United Teachers of Los Angeles labor union. “I just don’t think preventing conversation on Palestine is going to lead to less antisemitism.”
But Zbur, the bill’s author, said increasing reports of antisemitic incidents showed the need for legislation that would require state education officials to review such complaints “when a local educational agency fails to respond.”
“These changes will provide enhanced protections and better pathways to justice for not only the Jewish community, but all students facing discrimination,” Zbur said, according to an analysis of the bill by the committee staff.
As initially drafted, AB715 would have explicitly targeted teachers who criticized Israel’s government or its policies. It would have allowed punishment for classroom instruction that promoted discrimination based on “nationality,” which included “residency in a country with a dominant religion or distinct religious identity” — in other words, Israel.
The final version, as amended in the last few days of the legislative session, replaced that language with a new provision that may reach the same result. It says California should follow the U.S. “Strategy to Counter Antisemitism” adopted under President Joe Biden, which cited standards set by the 35-nation International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance in 2016.
Those standards, which Trump had also endorsed in 2019, define any instruction that “might be deemed as delegitimizing of the Israeli state” as antisemitism. The IHRA says it does not forbid all criticism of Israel, but slogans such as “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” have been defined as antisemitic under its criteria.
E. Tendayi Achiume, a UCLA law professor who was the United Nations special rapporteur on racism from 2017 to 2022, has said the IHRA standard has been “wielded to prevent or suppress legitimate criticisms of the state of Israel.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/ab-715-classroom-antisemitism-21049967.php>>2490712Rumble belongs to Thiel. Just a reminder in case some Anons might think it's a good idea to move there because Google/Youtube ads and censorship sucks.
I kind of had some hope at least for the internet when oh so "libertarian" Musk bought Twitter and Vance at MSC verbally curb stomped Eurocrat and NATO fashoids for censorship but only half a year later the Trump admin is just shy of implementing full Nazi style media and political control in the USA including a Horst Wessel incident and unironically calling Kirk a "martyr". Bourgeois EUrocats of course can't wait to follow suit, in fact i just read an article about some CDU big shot who is close to Merz praising the Trump admin and whining about supposed "leftist media supremacy".
>>2490751Says the moron who makes shitty zines
Fuck off houdini we don’t like your kind here
>>2489899Wtf… hold up. I did not re-check the original pics of the suspect after Tyler turned himself in. lemme tell you something… my face recognition game is flawless. Like I’m the opposite of face-blind, I got 20/20 superhuman mug spotting vision.
Tyler Robinson is NOT the guy on the original pics. They're playing in our faces.
>>2490836There's just something profoundly pathetic about forgiving the person who destroyed your family. I'm sure that way of thinking also manifests when justifying the separation of immigrant families at the border
Nothing but a cult that needs stamping out
>>2490888gorky was a reactionary clown so was any unironic retard that agreed with him, including lenin.
the USSR was a backward shithole regarding gay rights and male sexual liberation, so no position is correct
>>2490947one is european aryan blooded
other is not
the americans are aryan ftw, thats why there is a passing differenx
>>2491055>false consciousnessEvery single word Vance said at MSC was simply the truth about NATO, about neoliberal/neocon Eurocrats, about the EU and about the current German political establishment. He did it at what is supposed to be one of the most prestigious elitist circlejerks for the most unhinged, most fascist, most elitist, most anti-communist and most imperialist bourgeois Eurocrats and Nafoids. The fact that it was the Vice President of the USA, himself a rightoid, who exposed them made the event certainly even more traumatizing for these creatures and more enjoyable for me as a communist, because it's precisely this cabal who is responsible for all the shit we had to endure and have to endure since rabid neoliberalism rules over us.
What's more, i don't care who does something beneficial for the working class by accident or intentional. Can be Trump, Musk, some libshit or whoever, if it's actually beneficial i do not complain. Under capitalism even more Eurocrat and bourgeois censorship and or control over information flow and the means of communication is definitely NOT in the interest of the working class.
>>2490921why are you conflating eunuchs with gay men and reactionary politics with docility
>>2490898>gorky was a reactionary clown so was any unironic retard that agreed with him, including lenin.lenin yelled at gorky for talking with the "god-builders" and the "fascism = homo" remark was from after lenin died. i doubt lenin was "pro gay" in the contemporary but he did repeal anti-sodomy laws which was pretty forward for the time
>>2490051He wouldn't be nationalizing them in our interest.
Nazi Germany had state-owned companies too.
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