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Not reporting is bourgeois


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>This global rearmament is the defining characteristic of the final phase of the cycle that began with the capitalist recovery after the Second World War, and if we take the data highlighted by the SIPRI reports literally, and plot an unlikely convergence curve of military spending toward a level of parity, the final event could still be years away. Ten? Fifteen? These would be reasonable figures, if other considerations, not military, but economic and financial, did not intervene to likely shorten this interval.
https://intcp.org/it/periodicals/comunismo/98/#14530
>The debt, however, is too large to be affected by all these small-scale maneuvers. Despite everything, the dollar is, for now, the linchpin of the global payment system, and its hegemony cannot be questioned. It will be defended by all means, under penalty of the collapse of the global financial system, with apocalyptic consequences—for global capitalism, of course! So, before this happens, the bourgeois world is better off with a war that will clear all unfinished business.
>Based on these considerations, the war appears somewhat closer than it would appear from the observation of rearmament expenditures. And it is equally clear that without a powerful global social movement to halt it, no prayers from priests, no exhortations from noble souls to peace among men, no rationality from governments can stop it. Social Revolution is the only possible solution to avoid war and end the deadly cycles of capitalism forever.
https://intcp.org/it/periodicals/comunismo/98/#14530


[NOTE: This is not THE ICP, this is intcp.org, for the real ICP visit https://www.international-communist-party.org/ ]
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>>2490556
Because it is?


How many Bordiggas would it take to change a lightbulb?

>>2490401
>This different union committee organisation that we have ties with is larger than your party proper, therefore our party proper is larger than your party proper.
If we are going to count all members of all organisations (maybe even to the second degree since you list union membership as a whole) as part of ours then my org is far larger

There is a reason why there hasn't been a major world war between imperial superpowers since WW2 - because any sane person knows that such a war would result in the destruction of all life on Earth, and thus far no person in command of a country's nuclear arsenal has been insane enough to engage in such a war. The various world superpowers have nothing to gain by engaging in direct warfare with one another, so instead they focus their efforts on waging war against defenseless poor countries who do not have nuclear weapons. But nuclear proliferation is an inevitability. The wealthy high-tech post-WW2 superpowers will not hold their monopoly on nuclear weapons forever; eventually more countries will gain access to nuclear weapons and countries like US and Russia will lose their dominance over the rest of the world, because it doesn't take very many nuclear warheads to destroy a country and/or the entire world and therefore have leverage against the major nuclear superpowers, even if they have 100x more nuclear weapons than you do. Mutual assured destruction will be the basis of every nation's foreign policy.

>>2490388
this was a good read but i don't have time for a thought out reply but i recc other anons also read it

>>2490755
Thanks for taking the time to read it!

What do Left Communists think of Trotsky and Trotskyism?

>>2490774
Trotsky is a state capitalists and Trotskyists are also state capitalists just like Stalin whom they claim to hate but in reaity agree with 99.99% of his decisions.

>>2490774
I've never met him.

>>2490777
I am l33t haxxor I installed tailsOS on a dedicated laptop with a flash drive but BUT I cannot change language on this fuckng shit its not alt and shift WTF? I have to fucking click it, and the duckduckgo and tor fed browser do not help me at all, WHY ISNT IT SHIFT AND ALT TO SWITCH LANGUAGES BY DEFAULT? pleas help I am not a tor freak I am dedicated l33t haxxor from the land of lulz in tailsOS

>>2490881 its laptop \
retarded "super" button and spaec
Wtf
who the fug came up with a "super" button> tarded shit

>>2490233
That's more their reddit userbase than the deprogram podcast itself. Curiously they're the ones with the money for patreon.

>>2490881
> Installs meme OS
< Nothing works
Yeah duh of course

>>2490913
Hakim has some noticeable third worldist nationalist brainworms, such as in the video on migration in which he simultaneously talks about illegal migrant labour in Europe for next to nothing wages and in the same video blames European working class for being too lazy to do the jobs. He often has such tendencies of blindly repeating third worldist shit takes or outright liberal framing of social issues in the first world. JT is too much of a baby leftist to know better and yugopnik doesn't seem interested in going against it even though he should know better.

>>2490943
what's all this '(should) know better' stuff?
None of these people are leftists, to my understanding, in that they are not organised, they are not otherwise politically active, they are not partied, etc. etc. etc.
They're content creators who exist in a different world than your average leftist. Given this is it really reasonable to expect of them that they'd 'know better'?

>>2490184
>>2490231
Leftcoms confirmed reddit tourists

we are already at ww3, stupid westoids

>>2491000
Nta but the liberal shithole known as r/thedeprogram had less normie posts than this website

Get over yourself fag

>>2490610
How is it an interimperialist war? ICP just says that it is and doesnt elaborate.

>>2491107
>ICP just says and doesnt elaborate
Welcome to italian left communism

>>2491107
This is why you should be talking with the insane clown posse instead they will get right to the point.

>>2490243
>https://www.psychopathicrecords.com/ ICP (Insane Clown Posse)
kek

>>2490919
You blocked the node it did work.

>>2490231
No chance a deprogram-cel is that good looking or thin.

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>>2491070
I don't care about your reddit drama, you should go back to your r/deprogram or r/ultraleft, Langley cancer

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>>2491701
>reddit drama
It's happening bro

.

Twelve Belgian boys generate so much cope. Impressive, truly.

>>2492088
Democratic centralism? Ewww no.
So you want typical parliamentary fReE and FaIr eleckshons? Ewww no.
Dictatorship? Uhhm acktually, we prefer the term ORGANIC CENTRALISM.

Bordiga didn't think about human nature

So how is russo-ukrainian war an interimperialist war?


>>2492287
Isnt this more of a pamphlet than a report? You must be taking a piss.

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>>2492119
Who's coping? I'm laughing that all it takes is a lazy 5 paragraph article in a language none of you ultroids speak by a party none of you are orged with irl for you all to decide the sky is falling in 5 years. It's everyone else who are the larping ideology shoppers though, clownshow shit like this is exempt.

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>>2490233
>The deprogram are third worldists, sadly.
They definitely are not.

>>2492088
No ultras ever criticized on premise of "dictator"

>>2490233
>absurdist apoligism takes for everything the USSR
this board has brought the term third worldism to the ground, it's becoming our version of "tankie" and anyone unironically using third worldism to refer to anything they don't like should be laughed at, just as people laugh at libs calling people tankies on xitter

Is no one going to address the thread? THE WORLD IS ENDING LOOK AT THE ICP ARTICLE.
You fuckers derailed it into shit flinging against le ultras BUT THEY SAID IT RIGHT THERE IN THE ARTICLE, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? WORLD WAR FUCKING THREE IS COMING WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT HUH?

>>2492088
The crazy thing is that this post didn't exaggerate a single thing. Once you get past Bordiga's flowery language with organic centralism, he is arguing that Stalin didn't go hard enough and that if they put a super genius (himself) in as the absolute leader, they will follow use their Saiyan-tier mastery of THEORY to find the perfect line that will have NO DISAGREEMENTS or difference of opinion and the holy spirit of Marx will guide their firm hand.

It's the final form of intellectuals trying to promote themselves to king over the proletariat. You couldn't come up with a more ridiculous, idealistic concept than that.

>>2490164
Well shit, if the armchairs are saying something is going to happen it might just happen

>>2490211
read economic problems of the USSR chapter 2 ultra!

>>2490382
its impossible to stop a state from withering away, which is what happened to the USSR. this is why RF is communist. according to stalin, you can have commodity production in socialism, so i dont see why russia cant be communist.

12 belgian boys

>>2490164
<predict WW3 in 10 years
This is excellent news.

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A quick one about all this bordiga-esque "internationalist communist party" cinematic universe: now I don't have the source at hand, but I remember reading a critical appraisal of bordigism where one of the main groups of this current has stated since the 1970s - basically the Nixon shock and all those shenanigans - that capitalism was already dead, but it's being able to apparently survive for many decades in some kind of zombified form. I'm not kidding, that's what they actually came up with. Make what you want with that.

>>2494856
Thats what I've been trying to say, but anons derailed the thread

>>2495170
Thats the thesis of the decomposition of capital from the ICC, they update the theory everytime it becomes refuted so they can always claim they're right. https://en.internationalism.org/content/17377/update-theses-decomposition-2023

>>2494856
Well I lay in bed and say it won't


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