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>>2492695Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet New thread, new reminder that we are all buddies here and that the Funko-pop insults is not to be taken seriously, but just silly banter 😇
>>2494161
honkies will do anything but to turn to God
Low-key I want her to ‘read’ Haz’s aura
>>2494166You just know this old pervert is thinking of giving her the Stormy Daniel special
>>2494171
Relevance is not the point here
It’s not like Fuentes is relevant
>>2494172Fuentes has the ear of Kanye West
>VANCE: If you want stop political violence, stop telling your supporters that everybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi.
>>2494170Stop glorifying degeneracy
>>2494178Everybody that disagrees with me is a target of extermination. Stalin's biggest mistake is he did not kill enough people. I will treat my enemies the way pissrael treats Palestinians.
>>2494172Fuentes is 1000000 times more relevant than haz
zohran status?
>>2494179Look up what glorifying means, dumbo
>>2494187Ziohran is busy watching AOC fucking his hot Syrian wife. The revolution can wait sweetie, the Ziorat gotta goon first.
>>2494170He already did, she was one of his beauty pageant contestants years ago
>>2494194Trump doing more for the cause of de-dollarisation than Xi ever did. JDPON Don, I kneel.
>>2494197well "everything" does include the current state of things, so
>>2494198Wtf there are hotter blonde bimbos on every street corner in Burgerstan. Why her?
>>2494209Damn Tupac was an asshole back then.
>>2494209Anon I don't think the conquistadores were an improvement
>>2494215The conquistador, brutal barbarians as they were, still laid the basis which later allowed the natives to have social mobility. The Marxist Lord works in mysterious ways.
>>2494214I remember seeing this long ass PDF before. Can you link me the file please
>>2494226he called himself 2pac and yet he had a 6pac. so humble.
>>2494194real Idiocracy hours
>>2494230Some of that humble shit from his Jesus era
>>2494230Named 2pac
Had 6pac
Shot 4pACK
>>2494224Many confederate thanks, Sir Dengist
>>2494235
>nonhuman intelligence
Capital as a real God. iykyk
>>2494235
Real schizo crackka hours
>>2494242>FTL travel not possibleThat’s like your opinion man
>>2494246Nobody will believe you
>>2494214Lol Marx and Engels would be considered libs by today's "left"
>>24942491848 was a series of liberal revolutions which they conditionally supported on the grounds that it would develop capitalism in semi-feudal areas of europe
>>2494242>FTL travel isn't realThere actually is theoretically a way, it's just not a good idea because it destroys everything in front of and behind your path and the best case is that that wave of destruction is a straight line
>>2494252Stop consooming Funkopop-science
It’s click bait lazy garbage
>>2494252You dont really need to travel faster than light anyways if you can jump from one point to another, which is possible through quantum reconstruction. The idea being that your space ship or whatever duplicates your destination on a quantum level, which somehow makes you actually go there because quantum physics is fucking weird.
>>2494257Mah mate, it's real you'd need to pull zero point energy to get enough energy to do it, which means you destroy the universe as you do it, but it's possible
>>2494260that's not a real thing
>>2494260hypotheses remain hypotheses until we produce them experimentally
>>2494262>which means you destroy the universe as you do it, but it's possiblethat sounds like a bad idea
>>2494260It is weird because it is wrong. Defend comrades Bohm and De Broglie against Bohr-Heidenberg debauchery.
>>2494264Its a bad idea which is not possible becsuse it is wrong. Funkopop-youtuberslop-science has infected my comrades it seems.
my grandma is agnostic but believes in ancient aliens. i try not to "debunk" it but it's hard not to. like we do not need space ships to build pyramids lmfao. why aren't people simply hip to the fact that paleolithic and bronze age humans were actually very good at doing things? is it because the US has deindustrialized and imports everything that so many Americans think labor is magic?
>>2494271postmodern people are retards. industrial revolution hit and everyone forgot how to do anything difficult. read kaczynski.
>>2494269>>2494263I actually don't get this, I'm talking from work I haven't looked at for a couple of decades, because destroying the universe to do something is stupid
>>2494260There's some things from new work on reference frames that hint this might be possible, expand?
>>2494280
until i can talk to ayy lmaos on zoom calls, nothing ever happens
>>2494280
>DOZENS OF JARHEADS ARE TESTIFYING UNDER OATH
this dude again lmfao. he always does the MUH JARHEADS ARE TESTIFYING like that means anything.
>>2467590
>>2494280
Call me when the aliens themselves go public in an intentional way
really disappointed by the thread OP images these days
I used to do much better but jsnnies would nuke the thread everytime
Shame
>>2494292that's a video, not an image
and you got nuked for being retarded
>>2494280
Why is it when someone says they saw ayylmaos it's always military guys and never like NASA people (although that's often also military)
>>2494297Yeah because it is usually NASA people who lie, and NOT military ghouls
Tell me more, Mrs Candace Owens.
>>2494294stop annoying me with your pet grievance
>>2494269Just because we dont know how to do it doesn't make it literally impossible and all attempts at looking into it "funkopop"
>>2494304another pet grievance
>>2494280
>JARHEADS ARE TESTIFYING UNDER OATH
how can anyone understand them over all the crayon in their mouths?
>>2494306You're really mad that you cant rant about Chagos for an entire thread aren't you
>>2494309can you stop derailing the thread with your pet grievance?
>>2494235
what a waste of time and energy
>>2494194finna do the money spread with kirkkk $$$
Feds Disappear Trans People from “LGBT”The Trump administration’s war on diversity has a new casualty, removing the “T” (for “transgender”) from “LGBT” in its internal threat reports, according to copies I’ve obtained.
Two federal intelligence reports warning of threats to Pride Day events in June make repeated reference to the dangers to the “LGB+ community” with no mention whatsoever of transgender people. This comes amid the Trump administration’s campaign to capitalize on the death of Charlie Kirk to wage war on transgender suspects as “nihilist violent extremists.”
The sad irony here is that transgender people suffer the highest rate of hate crimes of any group within the LGBT community, underscoring how strange it is to omit them from reports intended to enhance public safety.
Adoption of the “LBG+” acronym has been observed in several other federal agencies since Trump took office, including, as I reported at the time, the State Department. The use of the term by the national security state has not been previously reported.
Commenting on the removal of references to transgender people on the National Park Service’s official website earlier this year, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul condemned the move as “cruel and petty,” adding: “Transgender people play a critical role in the fight for LGBTQ+ rights — and New York will never allow their contributions to be erased.”
Apparently the governor does not know the ways of the national security state. Multiple New York law enforcement agencies are coauthors of the main intelligence report I obtained, an overview of threats to Pride events in New York across the country.
“The threat of violence against the LGB+ community and Pride events primarily stems from ideologically motivated lone offenders or small groups of individuals with anti-LGB+ grievances,” the report begins. “According to NYPD [New York Police Department], several acts of violence and intimidation targeting the LGB+ community have occurred over the past several years in the NYC area.”
The 11-page threat report covers everything from suicide drone attacks and improvised explosive devicess, sketching out the dangers to “LGB+” people, gay couples, Hispanic people, Jewish people, Muslims, Arabs, Sikhs, South Asians, Middle Easterners. Even Luigi Mangione makes an appearance! But nowhere in the entire report are transgender people mentioned — again, the highest risk group in the LGBT community.
What’s striking is not the content of the threat warnings themselves — which echo years of law enforcement bulletins — but the terminology. At every turn, the reports describe the danger to the “LGB+ community.” Transgender people are written out entirely.
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard expressed opposition to transgenderism in August, calling the “belief that any man can become a woman, and any woman can become a man” a “manifestation of their darkness and desire to be God…”
From Trump’s first term through Biden, agencies used “LGBT” or even longer formulations like “LGBTQIA+” in their threat products. These and other documents were provided to me by the transparency nonprofit Property of the People, which obtained them under open records requests.
“This hateful crusade has been in motion for months, long before Charlie Kirk’s killing became the feeble pretext for its escalation,” Property of the People’s executive director Ryan Shapiro told me.
As late as January 24 of this year, four days into Trump’s administration, the “LGBTQIA” acronym was still being used, as seen in an intelligence report produced by the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis.
But by May, the same agency had dropped the acronym , according to another report about the potential for a terror attack targeting Pride Month in general.
“Violent extremists motivated by a range of anti-LGB+ grievances probably view upcoming Pride events in the Homeland as potential targets for attacks,” the report begins.
Referencing far-flung groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda, the report is brimming with tactical advice, proposing moves like “monitoring for pre-operational surveillance by threat actors,” “sweeps of event sites for abandoned containers” and even “public awareness campaigns” — but not once are trans people mentioned.
Disclaimers appear in the documents about the national security state’s painstaking efforts to respect the civil liberties of people’s “race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sex,” and on and on. The FBI could start by getting its terminology right (perhaps with one of their public awareness campaigns?)
According to advocacy organizations like GLAAD and Stonewall, the term LGBTQ+ is the term preferred by the community.
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/feds-disappear-trans-people-from >>2494322The great Trump-JK Rowling alliance.
If only Harry Potter libshits in 2010 could see the future…
>>2494322This is so scary
>>2494328yankees dismissed the fascist attitude of its armies around the world for so long, never thinking that this savagery could be unleashed on themselves back home
Now, when it’s too late, it all dawns upon them
>>2494318
well humans mined iron. His iron bacteria method was not known to paleolithic peoples. So an ounce is impressive considering he's getting it from creek bacteria, and he's doing this by himself rather than as part of some large community with division of labor.
>>2494330>yankeewho is considered a yankee?
>>2494319yeah it's definitely detonations. They tested in places like New Mexico.
>>2494335Im not using the civil war era definition.
A yankee is any citizen of the USA. Even a newborn.
Just learned that KKKoffee culture has roots in fascism.
>>2494344They’re really trying to frame us with sharpie covered bullets. Patel has an agenda to start as many fires as his incompetent ass can start.
>>2494344Every Man a Reichstag Fire!
>>2494347>>2494346>>2494344I hope democrackers double down in their total bootlicking and that based schizochads keep shooting reactoids and reactoids keep getting more scared to flap their ugly jaws in public
>>2494338Thay's because you are ESL
>>2494252You don't even need to exceed the speed of light. At high enough velocities distances relative to whoever or whatever is travelling at that speed begin to shrink. Meaning a trip to a star 1000 light years away could be shrunken down to a 1000 kilometres well before you hit the speed of light.
>>2494262>It was real in moii mind m8Lol no. Dude the so called scientist who hypothesized it, literally said he was inspired by Star Trek. No some dude i.agining some bullshit math does not technology make. If so the EmDrive would be real. In fact the EmDrive is more real than that sci-fi fag's warp drive. That pther anon is right, stop consuming pop sci trash.
>>2494376>overly emotional response that ignores that I said the amount of energy needed to do it would destroy the universeYou're a native speaker aren't you?
Native speakers should be banned from science
>>2494344So what? This admin has been taunting everyone, bragging about how ICE are their fascist goons and they’re going to terrorize your communities with mass deportations, to a very, very negative response. ICE is hated. Two weeks out from the Kirk thing, seeing how it didn’t move the needle on the guys popularity (still widely disliked), and is now causing backlash against them, the smol bean fascism isn’t going to do anything either. People hate ICE and what ICE is doing. What people will not like is the victims were innocent detainees. Not an endorsement just analysis.
>MAGA podcaster Benny Johnson called the Charlie Kirk memorial “the single, arguably, largest advancement of the kingdom of Christ” in history.
>>2494162Thats the most cringe part of Marx
>>2494393Charles Jesus Christ Kirk
>>2494405>pen>in the rainQUICK! TAKE A PHOTO BEFORE IT WASHES OFF!
>>2494387The real reason is it is that it is just not possible. I'm tired of sci fi fags talk about literal magic and we are supposed to treat it like it's some real hypothetical what if.
>Like what if we hypothetically had the technology, then how many angels could fit on the head of a lin? >>2494405Are they going to start rounding up all the weird single men now or something?
>>2494410That would be a lot of right wingers rounded
>>2494410They’re just going to try and make it illegal to dislike ICE and label them as fascists. Which will not work because, these guys all kind of know it, they’re loathed by most people and nearly everyone where ICE actually operates.
>>2494408>Maths is magicOk
Now let's talk about those funny pen scrawls on the bullets
>>2494418Memetic labeling of shell and bullet casings. Everyone’s got a “chatGPT summarize this” bullet pointed version of a manifesto now. It’s like a tweet, you have a character limit.
But I would expect the guy to be going after ICE.
>>2494408Also the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin is infinite, because as abstract entities angels have no extension
So anyway about those funny scrawls on the bullets attributed to the alleged killer of those ICE detainees, many of whom have disappeared lately?
>>2494418If you knew anything about the math and science, you would know that there are dozens of different conflicting theories and math formulas when it comes to that level.
Retards really goong "trust the science bro" talking about some purely speculative mental masturbation some bored physics professor made as a joke that has no experimental basis in anything.
>>2494414>The shooter was apparently posting on reddit about ivermectin.He also posted weird stuff about christianity and aliens:
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/517095765I could be wrong, but he doesn't seem like a left-winger.
>>2494427Theoretically means it's not forbidden by the science son
What do you think about how fresh those blue pen scratchings on the bullet look?
Who do you guys want to dee shot next?
For me, it’s Destiny.
>>2494442I would never wish violence on anyone
>>2494344Oh right, so this covid-schizo was anti-ice and that's why he went and shot some migrants. Makes sense.
Americans will believe this despite calling the most open and shut cases conspiracies.
>>2494445"he aimed at the agents and missed"
>>24944463 times? killing 2, injuring 1 migrant/asylum seaker and not touching a hair on a precious filths head.
>>2494162Biggest mistake of marx not to completely break with liberalism honestly
>>2494162this is true but nobody here actually reads marx so it'll go mostly unnoticed
>>2494442Destiny's going on Piers Morgan and saying charlie kirk deserved it which is based and makes Maga seethe, he can live for the time being
>>2494446>>2494446>"he aimed at the agents and missed"do we know what part of the facility he was aiming at while shooting?
>>2494458I think about how he announced his run in 2015 after descending from a golden escalator
>>2494405…isn’t that a fucking Mauser clip?
>>2494465No, I’m serious.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that clip type incompatible with the kind of weapon the shooter used? Can someone shed light on this?
>>2494465I think it is?
what were they supposed to have used
>>2494465>>2494470Might take a while for a response, so maybe post the question in the dedicated thread at →
>>2494403 >>2494463Anon this shit looks like it's from the fucking Great War nobody can shoot that shit straight.
and i'm supposed to believe a schizo did it and hit 3 times?
>>2494472Oh nm there's a response
>>2494471Apparently a Kar 98k
>>2494454 >>2494414should people share this on twitter or bsky? I couldn't find anyone talking about how the shooter was interested in ivermectin.
>>2494478>escortIsrael bothered because to many ships. need an eye kept on them.
>>2494474very confident & obvious no-gunz post. what about that exactly looks so weird and oldfashioned to you?
>>2494280
USAnos falling for the alien stuff AGAIN, during the second cold war. Like imagine, in the age of 4k handheld cameras, more phones than people, when every inch of the planet is blanketed in surveillance through radar, drones, CCTV and such a dense swarm of satellites we are practically asking for Kessler syndrome.
No wonder they ate the Chinese spy satellite story, even after NORAD had admitted to be trackign the thing during pretty much the entire trajectory and the Chinese had given early warning of the thing going adrift.
The only reason you don't have retards claiming to have been anally probed in UFOs and jockels mangling their own cattle is because homophobia and ruraloid worship is out of vogue.
This is sad guys, come on.
>>2494479This is not sustainable rhetoric. “You can’t compare us to Nazis because everyone knows Nazis are bad.” I mean these guys are acting like they actually dominate public opinion when they really only dominate platforms to express it. That’s the thing that’s different about the way the right uses cancellation and their recent exuberance. On the left, this emerged from social consensus over decades and mostly by piggybacking of liberal strategy like “frown power.” But these guys understand it as just top-down repression. I think tbh, both the left and right underestimate how much middle of the road liberals hate this behavior. They will become exhausted and outraged by it.
>>2494490That a skinnyfat schizo managed to hurt 7 non-ICE agents while using a bolt action at a distance of 500 yards using iron sights.
>>2494497Yeah exactly. But most Americans including on the right are correctly understanding right wing politics as fascistic. So they aren’t going to succeed a this attempt to just make opposition illegal. They aren’t calling for unity or cooling of rhetoric, you’ll notice. They are just raging at their opponents and seeking censure and reprisals.
>>2494498>make opposition illegalnever happening unless there's a global conflict
>>2494495> 7 non-ICE agents>500 yardswait where is this info last i saw it was just 3 detainees injured
>>2494510this was kirk's state mandated glowie trophy wife / handler
>>2494509most interesting ticket so far
>>2494529
felix what cities should proles move to in the PNW
I killed Charlie Kirk.
>>2494537no my love. it was I who killed charlie kirk
>>2494537>>2494539But we are Charlie Kirk.
>>2494527>>2494531genuinely why is it always pedophilia with these people, and why is it always israel?
that country needs to be nuked off the face of the earth
>>2494523what dongles never heard of capitalism or socialism
>>2494545That seems even less likely than pedophilia. Israel harvests the organs of dead Palestinians, why would they need Romanian orphans? I guess the idea is framing it as organ harvesting is somehow "less bad" than exposing the fact Kirk's wife was trafficking children to Mossad's pedo blackmail division.
>>2494531https://xcancel.com/KlonnyPin_Gosch/status/1970321504484327512#mTwitter thread on the topic
>>2494545Archived article from 2001
https://archive.is/BNMMF>Romanian authorities are looking into possible links between Israeli adoption agencies and an illegal global conspiracy to sell organs for transplants.>The Romanian Embassy in Israel has asked for, and received from the Labor and Social Affairs Ministry, a list of all children born in Romania who have been brought to Israel for adoption in recent years. The Romanian officials are trying to ascertain if all such children arrived in Israel with all organs in their bodies.>In its request to the Labor and Social Affairs Ministry, the Romanians did not offer evidence in support of suspicions of a link between adoption and organ trafficking. The inquiry is part of a broader investigation involving Romanian children sent to Italy and the United States.>As Ha'aretz has reported in the past, some Israeli physicians were involved in illegal kidney transplants and the sale of humauyghs in Turkey, Romania, and other countries in East Europe.>In parallel with the organ investigation, officials from Romania's central adoption agency and from Israel's Labor and Social Affairs Ministry and police, are also examining possible criminal activity of two groups dealing with the adoption of Romanian children by Israeli parents.Among other suspicions, officials are checking whether one Romanian group, headed by an Israeli, has forged adoption papers, and whether children have been offered to Israeli parents without proper, legal process.
>Responding to complaints and rumors, Romanian authorities have taken the highly unusual step in the past year of withholding authorization for the adoption of 16 Romanian babies destined for Israeli parents. >This delay has been enforced although the Israeli couples have paid $20,000 each to adopt the infants, and have already become acquainted with the babies in the foster homes and institutions where they are being held. Romanian authorities insist they will not give the go ahead for the adoptions until inquiries about possible wrong-doing are completed.>To help finalize the adoptions, the Labor and Social Affairs Ministry turned to President Moshe Katsav and asked him to raise the issue with Prime Minister Adrian Nastase when he visited Israel last July. Foreign Minister Shimon Peres also raised it with Romanian officials during his recent visit there.>Parents affiliated with the "Future of the Children" group, based in Rehovot, have also appealed to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to help finalize the adoptions of the Romanian children. >>2494371>wow he died, i guess that means he was right about everythingare there really pseuds who think like this?
>>2494371>Around Marx never relax vibes.
Trump wants to arrest UN workers over the escalator incident
>>2494540>But we are Charlie Kirk.A case of suicide. very sad.
>>2494271I don't think this applies to your grandmother at all but in my experience the common factor of everyone I've met that believes humans simply aren't capable of building ancient structures is either somesort of chauvinist(smaller of the two groups) that thinks anything outside there ingroup country is fake and gay and/or people with a deep sense of misanthropy(larger of the two groups) that thinks everyone is a maliciously ignorant NPC and that people aren't capable of any sort of collective action.
>>2494162this is all you have to do when speaking to americans about socialism is when you inevitably have to re litigate the 1917 revolution and the USSR show the parallels between both the first capitalist liberal republic and socialist republic faced similar issues and are dysfunctional clusterfucks that still manage to achieve absurd shit. Most issues with the russian revolution americans have are literally things that happened in the after math of the american revolution:
>gusano community of loyalists in southern canada>shays rebellion and whiskey rebellion>centrist with strongman image who doesn't really care abt ideological infighting>widespread food insecurity exacerbated by incompetent officials and local petty bourgeois >absolutist powers not wanting to trade or actively sanctioning the early republic(France despite giving direct military aid in the revolution refused any free trade agreements partially out of fear of the spread of republicanism)I mean the US took at least ~250 years to even get close to universal suffrage and thats as important to libs as seizing the means is too us. Why would you expect socialist revolutions under arguably greater pressure than the previous liberal ones to somehow not be equally messy and prolonged is the question to pose to them.
tldr:get them to hold the russian revolution to the same standard they hold the american revoltion that most americans have which is openly acknowledging glaring contradictions while still be overall supportive cuz fuck the older order of things and the aristocracy/bourgeois.
>>2494162>His whole critique is that capitalism drops the ball on all of that"You know, the thing!" - Joe Biden
>clueless leftists come around trying to rebrand Marx as some champion of authoritarianismsoy idealist utopian radlibs will never utter any historical materialist class war for even a single second, that's why we call those smug Zionist degenerates like Contrapoints "radical liberals"
>>2494194>Charlie Kirk placed on US currencyFreemasons 👁️
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/what-ring-was-erika-kirk-wearing-g-mark-sparks-freemason-theories-about-charlie-kirks-wife-101757875438065.htmlhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/charlie-kirk-was-not-a-freemason-but-he-apparently-knew-some-people-who-were/ar-AA1N4nGw?ocid=U348DHP >>2494322>manifestation of their darkness and desire to be Godonly Jeffrey Epstein's Zionist pagan friends are allowed to mutilate the genitals of their Americans, you are our SLAVES, you have NO FREEDOM to control your body REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2494609
You losers already do that unprovoked. Shut your goofy ass up.
>>2494609
So which wal-mart?
>>2494613NTA but when has a conservative or Nazi in modern times ever killed any serious Marxist or ancom, I'm asking because you surely have proof and probably at least one article from Europe or something in some shithole backwater village in Italy or Serbia or Sweden.
>>2494624
Enjoy dying for Israel I guess.
>>2494609
>>2494624
>fatherless behavior
Can one of you pick up a gun and go shoot at another van or something I'm getting bored.
>>2494634
What's your relationship like with your father? It's too funny because it's always true.
>>2494529
You had ample time to ready the infantry for this and instead you chose to touch grass. You should ashamed of yourself
>>2494448Sounds about right. Try something and fail spectacularly at it. Par the course for the modern American leftoid.
>>2494542I get the feeling that "pedophilia" is the last moral issue they can realistically grandstand on, and like "pro life" is a phrase that primes people to not think about what they're actually talking about.
As far as Israel, it's a mixture of anti semitism, along with general xenophobia and conspiratorial thinking. If Max Blumenthal is to be believed, then a big issue among the maga rank and file is the "influence/ domination" that Israel is apparently exhibiting over the US government. You've got Trump himself who has said he would do a number of things only to do the opposite, shit like the Epstein files which not only involve organized pedophilia circles but child trafficking but also the allegations that he was a mossad asset, and now prominently Netanyahu not only apparently calling the shots on us foreign and domestic policy, but coming out very shortly after charlie kirk was killed under mysterious circumstances to say that he didn't do it.
So yeah, for a lot of rightoids Israel is becoming a real bugbear at the center of all their other anxieties, real or imagined.
>>2494641
Exactly. Fatherless behavior. I'd feel sorry for you if you weren't such a piece of shit.
>>2494609
That would involve leaving your room, chudcel. Forgive if I don't feel threatened 🥱
>>2494594>>2494595Petro doesn't miss
>>2494595@Grok is this true?
Bait this weak has got to be a recession indicator. People are shoring up their bait in offshore swiss accounts. "Garçon! Garçon! Bait please, and only your finest!" you cry, but M. Garçon only shakes his head in sorrow and serves you weak, tepid bait, and you leave the restaurant with an empty stomach and head back to your wife & 2 kids & Siamese cat & no good bait.
>>2494648I think given long enough nobody will have to, since neither of them breeds and they both kill themselves after shooting immigrants.
>>2494609
you wont do shit
With all the craziness going on in the world today, I hope some of you anons are staying safe.
>>2494683Charlie's kids are gonna get a little brother named Arcturus Sol Invictus π Musk-Kirk ❤️
>>2494595Best pink tide leader behind Hugo Chavez
>>2494683She's too old for Musk. I don't think he's ever dated a woman over 25.
>>2494595Stalin didn't export the revolution because he couldn't, not because he didn't want to.
>>2494683I think the ruling class is infertile and elon is basically their jizz supply. A boy and his dog type situation.
>>2494371Old Ben has still got it, lmao
today, I've read the most simplistic definition of the US political system: The US is governed by two parties accusing each other of being communists, and I love it.
>>2494720His wrecking behavior during the Arce administration ruined his legacy
>>2494645If right-wing antisemitism helps to get US to stop perpetuating this conflict then I'm fine with that.
>>2494162Economic liberalism and democracy are mutually exclusive ideas. Your life being ruled by unaccountable private tyranny != democracy.
>>2494645>So yeah, for a lot of rightoids Israel is becoming a real bugbear at the center of all their other anxieties, real or imagined.Good
I'd rather ally with rightoids that actually believe in "America First", as misguided/stupid as it is, than zionists that only view my home country as a means of triggering their doomsday prophecy.
>>2494610>Zionist pagan???????? the abrahamic religions all designate themselves as being in contrast to "pagan" religion as well as atheism. this reads like christian zionist cope.
>>2494178>>2494181Hasn't the MAGA right been calling everyone who isn't as Zionist as them Nazis for the past few years though?
>>2494708This. People don't seem to understand that you can't just take the exhausted Red Army in 1945 and say to them "OK, mission accomplished, time for the next mission."
>>2494755 (me)
seriously, memes about Trump porking Erika and/or cucking Kirk are gonna be the next big trigger of reactoid snowflakes, they won't get as much of a reaction as memes about his death but believe me, they seethe over it. BUY, BUY, BUY!
>>2494683>guy with a net worth of 12 million gets killed by his billionaire masters and mossad so they can cuck himthis would be called over the top in a movie
>>2494178This is absolutely not going to work and points to the inability of this far-right clique to govern America. It's a big country, one of the largest in the world, with a ridiculously complex ethnoreligious and political makeup and an almost terrifying number of internal contradictions. The fact is, governing it does require careful concessions. You can just taunt your political rivals and tell them to fuck themselves, not for very long.
>>2494679is that midwestern marx? he's an ACP dude
>>2494806surprised he didn't use the indonesian madrasa photo of obama while he was at it
>>2494831A Greek God
The Lustful Turk Hasan Piker fears Stavros Halkias's unparalleled manly physique
>>2494834So hes a podcaster?
>>2494571its christcuck culture
>>2494837I mean, sure. We are at the point where the feds only bother to provide a corpse and a sharpie scribble.
At this rate, the next shooter will be a transgender, communist of color, illegal migrant, card carrying antifa(!?), detonating a suicide vest out of sight, in an empty parking. And we'll know by the confession they presumably mailed to the police station beforehand decorated with swastikas and Palestine flags.
>>2494194Sad thing is everyone will just kiss the ring.
ameriKKKa is in a way one of the most democratic countries in the world: its government's overarching policies have always perfectly represented the consensus among those with the right to vote.
>>2494845do you think klippenstein will ever pull himself out of liberalism? he's a good reporter but can't connect the dots or see the bigger picture.
>>2494849>no tripHi felix
>>2494855ignore the lack of trip, they split the name into two words, while the OG goes by CPUSAnon, one word
>>2494853Many such cases. Greenwald has the same problem, as do even whistleblowers like Snowden, Assange, Manning.
>>2494203>hotter blonde bimbos on every street corner in BurgerstanWhere the fuck do you live to see burger women with normal bmis
>>2494194Century of humiliation tier cuckholdry
>>2494849>ameriKKKa is in a way one of the most democratic countries in the world: its government's overarching policies have always perfectly represented the consensus among those with the right to vote.Let's ignore the fact that you're impersonating someone and address your arguments directly:
>ameriKKKa is in a way one of the most democratic countries in the worldMarx says bourgeois democracy (which is what America has to this very day) is shallow and vulgar:
<Even vulgar democracy, which sees the millennium in the democratic republic, and has no suspicion that it is precisely in this last form of state of bourgeois society that the class struggle has to be fought out to a conclusion — even it towers mountains above this kind of democratism, which keeps within the limits of what is permitted by the police and not permitted by logic.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htmHe points out that any attempt (even if reformist, liberal, republican) to change anything in bourgeois society to not reflect the interests of the bourgeoisie is slandered as socialist:
<Every demand of the simplest bourgeois financial reform, of the most ordinary liberalism, of the most formal republicanism, of the most shallow democracy, is simultaneously castigated as an "attempt on society" and stigmatized as "socialism".
<Marx in The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852)However, he does not talk about democracy in and of itself as being inherently bourgeois, and stresses the need for the proletariat to "win the battle of democracy."
<[…] the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htmLenin says:
< […] the workers of the whole world sympathise with the Soviet Republic precisely because they regard it as a proletarian democracy, a democracy for the poor, and not a democracy for the rich that every bourgeois democracy, even the best, actually is.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/prrk/democracy.htmSo we see that
1. Bourgeois democracy is shallow and vulgar and not really democratic
2. Any attempt at peaceful reformism sabotaged, slandered, made impossible, leaving violent revolution inevitable.
3. The proletariat must win the battle for real proletarian democracy, which bourgeois democracy can never be.
Your next claim:
> its government's overarching policies have always perfectly represented the consensus among those with the right to vote.Were this the case, the franchise would have never expanded beyond the people who originally held it for themselves. First it was only white men with property. Then, it was only white men. Then it was only men. Then finally after 1919 it was men and women. So we have "universal" (adult) suffrage. But this does not matter because turnout is low, the options are limited, the education is dogshit, the districts are gerrymandered, the parties are corrupt, the voting machines are not trustworthy, the democracy is representative rather than direct, the voting is FPTP rather than ranked choice usually, and the judicial branch and executive branch overpower the legislative branch.
>>2494885Most americans are bourgeois, no.contradiction
>>2494887NON SEQUITUR THAT DOESN'T REPLY TO ANYTHING I SAID. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND STOP BOTHERING ME WITH YOUR IRRELEVANT UTTERANCES.
>>2494886Don't expect people over the age of 65 to be very effective workers, especially when you're slashing safety regulations and medicaid and medicare and imposing austerity and union busting all at the same time.
>>2494890WHY ARE YOU BUYING INTO HIS POST? LOOK AT WHAT HE IS REPLYING TO. HE IS NOT TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. HE DOESN'T EVEN READ BEFORE REPLYING!!!!!
>>2494893>globallyright, so americans are richer than other places? no shit. maybe its because they have more technology and infrastructure. but in terms of absolute wealth, that belongs to the 1%. you know this and are playing dumb.
>>2494893>Globally, anyone who makes more than $13 an hourTHE PURCHASING POWER OF MONEY IS RELATIVE TO WHERE YOU LIVE. 13/HR BUYS YOU A LOT MORE IN UGANDA THAN IT DOES IN THE USA. IN THE USA IT BUYS YOU JACK SHIT. YOU ARE DESCRIBING CURRENCY HEGEMON NOT CLASS. GOOD THING CURRENCY HEGEMON IS DYING BECAUSE OF PROTECTIONISM. CURRENCY HEGEMON RELIES ON FREE TRADE, BUT AMERICA IS ABANDONING FREE TRADE. TRUMP WANTS BOTH PROTECTIONISM AND CURRENCY HEGEMON BUT HE CAN'T HAVE BOTH.
>>2494892>>2494892I really don't get why people in this thread continue engaging with that guy. He's clearly just yanking people's chains. Frankly I don't get most of the posts in these threads. Just demoralizing and it's pretty clear only a handful of people in here bother to read/are actually even socialists.
>>2494900
>most wealth is in the middle class.
well lets compare numbers. how many are in the midde class compared to the 1% ?
if we distribute it per person we see the extreme level of relative wealth inequality.
>>2494895I mean further your class is determined by your relation to the means of production. The poster you're responding to seems to believe that just because a worker receives higher wages they've somehow gained ownership of the means of production. In other words, he's a clown.
>>2494900
other westoid nations like klanada pay less for medicine than we do. your explanation is incomplete. wages are higher in the west because of currency hegemony. kill the purchasing power of the dollar, and its status as world reserve currency, and western wages will no longer have so much purchasing power outside of the west.
>>2494903Why should the bottom 50% care about the wealth disparity between the 1% and the next 49%?
And why should the global 90% care about the wealth disparity between the global top 1% and the next 9%?
Inter-bourgeois infighting.
>>2494904for his next trick (which I have seen before) he will move the goalpost from "americans are all bourgeois" to "americans are all petty bourgeois" then finally to "americans are all labor aristocrats." This final retreat is the most difficult to refute, because he can just repeat over and over that western workers are "bribed by and participate in imperialism" which isn't entirely untrue but still incomplete analysis.
>>2494905>wages are higher because of currency hegemony.theyre higher because the cost of reproducing labour is higher. we exist in expensive homes, drive cars, use internet, etc. only ascetic reactionaries think civilisation is degenerating so look for excuses as to why we're "spoiled", just like malthus telling poor people to stop having kids.
>>2494906>why should people care about who controls the world?so that they know who the enemy is
>>2494909Who's "we" here.
Westoids just want the surplus of the western burger flipper and software engineer to no longer be stolen, but they don't care about the surplus value stolen from the brazillian farm worker who supplied the beef, and the african slave who provided the cobalt.
because they know that fixing the latters would make burgers and computers more expensive
>>2494912>who's "we"those who are subject to the global ruling class.
>>2494806Im fine with this, its been all but confirmed Biden was out to lunch and his aides and the party at large covered it up and supported his reelection in a world historical act of political malpractice. They want to move on and face no consequences for that and even claim Biden was a good president, fuck them! They should be shamed and Biden should be forced, clockwork orange style, to watch and face what his legacy really is with whatever dwindling awareness he still has
>>2494912If it's all so hopeless then please leave us alone and spend your time constructing your third worldist coalition to defeat empire. Instead what you're currently doing is frustrating a thread full of the people who might be sympathetic toward an internationalist position. Which I think is your real goal. I know you're not actually a socialist and I'd put good money on you not actually believing in anything. Please do better.
>>2494916he's just a reactionary who thinks that civilisation is decadent and we should all be poor like the third world subjects he holds up for guidance
>>2494897he's also so obvious you have to have no memory whatsoever to not instantly clock the guy
>>2494925
prolly the only good post you've made so far
>>2494529
>I will have to continue my anti-fascist mission of hounding that creature to suicide
never change Mr Felix
>>2494922You can't take control of your destiny if you can't identify "who are our friends and who are our enemies" like mao said, and instead signal boost middle class whining, thinking they have any interest in revolution.
You take "the middle class in the west has no revolutionary potential" to mean "there is no revolutionary potential in the west", because you unconsciously unperson the actual poor, think that communism is populism, and are basically retreading proudhon.
>>2494930
that's OK, I straight up don't believe your story
>>2494935a quick google search will teach you a lot about Chagos. You do not have to believe me.
Not every volk oppressed by your fascist machinery is well-known, unfortunately. It is also impossible, since your fascist overlords oppress at an unprecedented rate, one cannot keep up even in the 'age of information'.
>>2494937>You do not have to believe me.yes I do. for all I know you're posting from an apartment in Berlin. it would be easier to believe if you weren't throwing this identity around moralistically
If you're too retarded to get a real job, let alone go to university and work with people in higher levels of international society regardless of nominal political affiliation, don't call yourself a communist lmao.
Like, I get it. You're all larping disabled retards with no social skills who can only argue using 19th century terminology. People should be nice to you.
But also shut the fuck up if you actually have grandiose ideas about revolution on leftypol because you haven't come to grips with your narcissistic overcorrection for childhood neglect, impotence, pride and sloth.
>>2494940People should be more mean to you clearly. Go back to the reactionary corner fool.
>>2494939I never set foot in Europe or NA in my life. I have only ever breathed the air of Mauritius and South Africa.
>>2494954sure anon sure we all believe you
https://www-msnbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/maddow/blog/rcna232888?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17587275851412&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnbc.com%2Frachel-maddow-show%2Fmaddowblog%2Ftrumps-directive-ag-bondi-seen-impeachment-level-scandal-rcna232888
>The online missive was head-spinning in its absurdity. Trump began his message, “I have reviewed over 30 statements and posts saying that, essentially, ‘same old story as last time, all talk, no action. Nothing is being done. What about Comey, Adam ‘Shifty’ Schiff, Leticia??? They’re all guilty as hell, but nothing is going to be done.’”
>In other words, to hear the president tell it, he saw some “posts” from unnamed people who want some of Trump’s political adversaries to be punished, because they’re “guilty” of unidentified crimes, and these “posts” should necessarily spur action from the Justice Department, because the president said so.
>Concluding that “they” impeached him and tried to hold him accountable for a variety of alleged felonies, the Republican concluded that he’s desperate to turn the tables on his enemies. “JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED, NOW!!!” he wrote. >>2494986interpreting this as a straightforward defense of child labor in its historical form seems silly. if you take it as children apprenticing in trades from a relatively early age as part of their education its much more consistent and not even controversial for most people as something that would be good if done fairly
>>2494886retirement benefits from the state are only possible if labor replenishes itself. since immigration is gone there's nothing propping it up anymore. by the time we're all 60 retirement will vanish completely. old people will be left to die or be taken care of by family members
>>2494992>interpreting this a defence of child labouryou clearly have no respect for the text:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/append.htm>3. "Restriction of female labor and prohibition of child labor."<"Prohibition of child labor." Here it was absolutely essential to state the age limit.marx has his limit. send the kids to the factory at 9.
stop being so defensive over your victorian grandpa.
>>2494994youre perhaps forgetting the fact that retirement comes from paying into social security. its still their money, but just with added interest. paying off the interest shouldnt be hard, especially in the context of government spending.
>>2494999and we all know who the third is 🙄
>>2494998social security isn't enough to live on lol. and if the market crashes (which it will) there goes everyone's 401k's. Retirement plans literally only work if a labor population increases with time. Immigration was the only thing sustaining this country and now this is the first year ever where the population will decrease. Conflict is inevitable
>>2495003youre just creating a paradox which feeds the ponzi scheme.
import immigrants -> they retire -> more immigrants -> they retire, etc.
thats why the capitalists want to raise retirement, so that you die before you cash out.
>>2495005it's an argument I hear from pro-immigration leftists from France. "Our social security system is not sustainable. We need migrant labour (specially for low wage jobs like deliverymen etc)".
Firstly, that assumes swallowing the right-wing think tank 'reports' which present the social security as unsustanable in order to push for austerity. This unsustainabilty can easily be addressed by simply taxing porky more.
Secondly, it displays a perverse attitude by the European lefty. Instead of fighting for higher taxes on porky, instead of addressing the issue of low wage jobs by (i) increasing salary so that young europeans consider those jobs and (ii) automate what can be automated (like staffless grocery stores in Japan), the European lefty rather fully accepts the neoliberal state of things and simply wants poor Mamadou from Senegal to cross the mediterannean dangerously and work shitty job (which Charlotte and Jean-Pierre are too good for) in order to pay for the social security of fucking Charlotte and Jean Pierre.
I am not anti-immigration, I have simply noticed that neoliberalism has fully conquered every atom in Europe, to the point where even lefties fully accept the neoliberal state of things as THE scientific truth, and offer neoliberal solutions to neoliberal problems.
>>2495005>import immigrants -> they retire -> more immigrants-they retire, etc.bruh what are you trying to say here. Porky only likes immigration if it's illegal and they don't retire here. Friedman explains it best.
>thats why the capitalists want to raise retirement, so that you die before you cash out.obviously. it's a cost saving measure. What I'm trying to say is retirement plans are simply incompatible with a falling population. That's why the USA kept sections of the world permanently underdeveloped so it would always have an immigration source to draw from. Without that they can't afford to run their capitalistic societies
>>2494999You make the mistake of thinking americans profess what they believe, or that they even have a coherent, self-consistent set of values.
A liberal's (in the classical sense, so both dems, cons, etc.) actual positions are comprised entirely out of "reasonable exceptions" to all their abstractly held "principles", resulting in an aggregate tendency towards fascism. That's the core feature of liberalism as an ideology.
>>2495010illegal migrants absolutely do retire and die in the countries they move to.
It is a myth that after working they supposedly go back to their country of origin. At least not the majority of them
>>2495012>illegal migrants absolutely do retire and die in the countries they move to. of course, but from porky's perspective that's even better, illegal workers don't draw aid, benefits, or retirement. it's a cheaper and more exploitable worker by default.
>>2495014idk about america but in Europe, illegal migrants do get a level of aid, benefits etc
Clearly not enough, but its not zero either
>>2495008there was a controversy on "the view" a while ago where a guest made a comment like "you cant deport mexicans because who would do (x) jobs"? it was said in jest but its also serious policy. you see trump saying that there needs to be mass deportation but he also openly says that farmers NEED the cheap slave labor. its something implicit on the left and explicit on the right.
>>2494529
My job is harder than yours
>>2494918>colonialism and imperialism are "civilization"I thought this was supposed to be a "leftist" board.
tell me more about the great civilizing mission of the white man
>>2495036Why does anyone want to watch this ugly cunt eat?
I don't get twitter.
Y'all watched that Vietnamese snuff film?
>>2494260wormholes are possible and will be achieved in the future.
>>2495072colonialism and imperialism have been objective goods that have raised the standards of living, and create a resentment that leads to revolutions in those regions
>>2495111your brain farts hardly constitute a "challenge"
is Moffin' a protected species here?
>>2494509>Massie/AOC 2028! End the empire, defund Israel, cut off the war machine in Ukraine, dismantle NATO, bring every troop home. Tear out the surveillance state, gut the FBI, shred the Patriot Act, and stop wasting trillions propping up corporations and foreign parasites while Americans starve. That’s a real left-right coalition that can actually work…Won't happen. AOCIA is a team player that won't touch the CIA, FBI, NATO or anything else. Her only problem with the American Empire is that they don't fly rainbow flags from the White House anymore.
>>2495117And yet here you are going out of your way to wildly misinterpret people
>>2495131can you stop ejaculating on a pizza and sell it to me as 'fior di latte' please?
>>2495130There's nothing to interpret sbout naked chauvinism, just repeating the tired bourgeois line of "they just want to make everyone equally poor"
Quacking like a duck while denying being a duck.
>>2495139it's just Moffin' being Moffin'
>>2495139> sbout naked chauvinismWhat level of illiteracy are you on to get that from the original message? Lmao
>>2495143You forgot the
> being correct as alwaysAt the end
>>2495121antifa witchhunt about to start
>>2495150are you a mod, Moffin'?
>>2495152chances of Iron Felix getting caught in crackdown?
>>2495133Scusa.
Sono 12€ comunque.
Hasan will be the first arrested
>>2495155I am in your head, rent free
>>2495159I dont speak ᴉuᴉlossnW-language sir
>>2495160so its not an assault on Antifa after all?
just another instance of lib-on-lib violence
>>2495161are you a mod or not?
Call me when police actually raid DSA meetings
>>2495164Hasan is no different than anyone on leftypol
>>2495169He is different. He is noticeably less libby than Moffin' and the mods.
>>2495172moffin' is more of a communist than you'll ever be, and he shows immense restraint by not banning your white ass
>>2495166why would conservative fascists raid social fascists?! they're buddies
I hate Taylor Swift so much
>>2495174you spelled fascist wrong
>>2495174he bans people who disagrees with his imperialist positions all the time
>>2495158>chances of Iron Felix getting caught in crackdown?I don't think Feds arrest other Feds.
>>2495185yes I know Moffin' will not be arrested, im talking about the real iron Felix
Namefag drama in any direction is fed, honestly having anything other than Anonymous and the flags was a huge mistake
>>2495182him existing is enough to make you shit your hitlerite pants, chauvinist
>>2494996>i have no respect for the text>incorrectly quotes mea STRAIGHTFORWARD DEFENSE of child labor in its HISTORICAL FORM would mean saying "actually child labor as it exists now is fine." marx did not think that because he was famously a bit concerned about labor conditions of the time. so yes, he is defending children continuing to be laborers, but he also does not want even adult laborers subjected to what child laborers were subjected to in that context
>>2495121The way things are going there's an equal chance it could be a crackdown on antifa or a crackdown on escalator manufacturers
>>2495198t. an actual Hitlerite Chauvinist
>CNN: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s flight to the US took a circuitous route in an apparent effort to avoid several European countries that could enforce an outstanding arrest warrant against him for alleged war crimes.
>>2495147Breaking news, fish can't tell the taste of water
Moffin' is hated and no amount of dictatorial use of mod powers will change that.
>>2495121gonna go out on a limb here and say theyre not bluffing. last time i called a bluff on this kind of thing was russian troop buildup on ukraine border. i think theyre making big moves and might mean war
>>2495210Russians are serious people, Americans are not
the fuck's a moffin i've only see them avatarfag with some pedophile cartoon thing and i've never seen them post anything of consequence, now it turns out they're a mod or something? this board is such a turd, but a funny one at that
>>2495212the opposite is true now
>>2495217where's that meme of haz explaining to the nazi jail warden that he's a communist and the only one among the leftist inmates that deserves to be locked
>>2495218in Moffin's hairy shitalian ass
>>2495215Literally how? Russia is actually fighting a war and winning, America is stagnant, postmodern, and crumbling, they couldn’t even manufacture consent for vaccines during a pandemic, and somehow they’re serious enough to arrest and kill Jacobin writers?
>>2495210With whom? Vuvuzela regime change or a big one?
>>2495121PURGE PURGE PURGE MAKE THE US MILITARY COMPOSED SOLELY OF MANOSPHERE PODCASTERS
CHINESE CENTURY NIHAO WOMEN HUANYING NIN
>>2495220Stop trying to make my dick hard
>>2495226If you get rid of Dominicans and Puerto Ricans the army is reduced to the size of a state militia
>>2495230objectively false
>>2495232Every white boy is too fat, drug addled, or autistic, they can’t fight
>>2495234you're just describing leftcoms, there's barely any in Murica
>>2495238I met some Platypus guy at a get-together for a different party in my area, and he went on and on about how covid was a chinese lab-leak. leftcoms, are you okay?
>>2495241
Reported for racism
>>2495226>The orders come as Hegseth has unilaterally directed massive recent changes at the Pentagon — including directing that the number of general officers be reduced by 20 percent, firing senior leaders without cause and a high-profile new order to rebrand the Defense Department as the Department of War.looks like it's indeed part of an ongoing purge of the top brass
>>2495244If PSL were smart they would approach purged officers
>>2495242leftcoms are racist towards non-europeans, so it fits perfectly
>>2495242>>2495238Stray leftcom slander in my death of the mad empire thread? More likely than you may think.
>>2495248>If PSL were smart they would approach purged officersPSL aint doing shit, you're getting the National Salvation Council instead buddy
>>2495214it makes perfect sense
loser mod = shitalian retard = NAFO-lover = cartoon p3d0 lover
>>2495212not sure what your reasoning is here bc in 2022 everyone who wasnt buying the NATO line on russia was convinced ithe buildup was only a bluff BECAUSE putin was serious and wouldnt try an outright invasion. for me the lesson there was to take big logistical & planning moves more seriously than guessing at motives
>>2495224if i had to guess my moneys on venezuela for aforementioned reasoning that theyre already moving things into position in the caribbean + they have genuinely been making moves to pull back and more aggresdively assert monroe doctrine as a tradeoff. but i am not confidently making predictions just saying if i had to put bets somewhere thats what it would be
>>2495254There’s been military regimes supported by socialist parties as part of a coalition, especially in Latin America
>>2495261>>2495224>>2495210oh i didnt even consider internal purge
>>2495264>>2495251what is it with the zoophilic-pedophilic images?!
fuck off to 4chan, degenerates
>>2495266It’d be really funny if the purge was followed by an attempt at an invasion. Just stepping right on a rake looney tunes style.
>>2495250>>2495238why are you so obsessed with us man, and reported for anti-italian racism
>>2495266porque no los dos. it is known that the top brass has been an obstacle to hegseth's and trump's more bellicose ambitions
>>2495273>porque no los dosPorque no se puede.
>>2495273>>2495270its definitely possible sure. also even tho i dont want to put too much weight on psychologizing i have to think that trump knows hes getting old regardless of how much he really wants to push the 3rd term thing he could plausibly want to press the war button in his 2nd term while he's lucid enough to enjoy it.
>>2495276You can, it’s just a really bad idea, especially against an actual country with an actual military and history of insurgency like Vene
>>2495121I'm assuming it's something about
>Venezuela>Taiwan>Iran>Palestine>muh internal PVRGE of unamericans who are disloyle to their capoluckily the administration is very ADHD so like everything else so far their reactionary horse shit will be very half assed
>>2495282Venezuela absolutely does not have a military that can stand up to the US in a semi-conventional fight, it's going to be asymmetric as hell, thousands of Venezuelas will die just to annihilate a company of US marines
>>2495287You would need at least a few months of consistent build up to manufacture consent for any of these, let alone all of them at once, we couldn’t even do it for vaccines trump released.
>>2495289I don't think so. The U.S. struggled to defeat a group of individuals in Afghanistan who were living in caves and shit.
>>2495289Venezuela isn’t gonna fall over like Grenada or Panama like the administration thinks, even people that hate Maduro are not gonna stick by a US appointed Juan Gauido successor. It would be like Vietnam but in Latin America, the US would lose after doing genocide.
>>2495291>You would need at least a few months of consistent build up to manufacture consent for any of these, let alone all of them at once, we couldn’t even do it for vaccines trump released.which is funny because this administration doesn't even have a few months of attention span. plus we keep getting blessed with new reichstag fires by Valhalla Patel once a week.
>>2495294yeah the US struggles to win against guerrillas, but that doesn't stop them from massacring non-combatants while they fail to achieve military objectives
>>2495294the point is not to win, it is to "destroy maduro", however vague of an idea that is, aka bomb the country to shit, torch the cities, reinstitute conscription, declare martial law, etc
>>2495300I couldn’t think of a better way for PSUV to rally the population
>>2495300The U.S is all about winning. Didn't you get the meme from Trump?
>>2495301with what exactly? the cities are gonna be absolutely bombed to shit man, there is gonna be a state collapse with heavy spillover into the region, but like i said, you don't need to "win", just "depose maduro" and then occupy the country for a couple of years and leave under the condition it surrenders its oil or some shit
>>2495308When cities get bombed people go to the countryside and get pissed and become guerrillas
>>2495264Thanks
But also I'm
incredibly jelous
>>2495292bets on who it is? I heard PSL is in the crosshairs, and they have been the main group organizing demos in LA
>>2495315maybe the parties will finally put aside their petty differences and form a united front (lol, lmao)
>>2495300even maduro opponents have gone on record as wanting to support the PSUV in the event of a US invasion, it would galvanize support for maduro and instantly undo decades of soft-politics to oust him. it would also likely make relationships difficult with the entire south american block, which would be bad enough even if south east asia wasn't already floating out of orbit and into china's orbit. i just cant think of a better way to stunt the US for decades if not a full century.
> and then occupy the country for a couple of years and leave under the condition it surrenders its oil or some shitliterally venezuela's state scaffolding is all centered around extracting oil and selling it for cheap, it's designed to do that. you want to collapse a comprador state to get access to a resource that the comprador state already offers if you ask nicely enough.
>>2495319fat chance: PSL views itself as *the* vanguard, despite the fact that they are explicitly legalist, HAH.
>>2495297I think it's more like that the US doean't have near the same level of international influence this time around
>>2495319They're already in a united front. Against actual communism.
>>2495327>>2495333Who are the actual communists in the US then? one of the FRSO groups? Bob Avakian?
>>2495336>Who are the actual communists in the US then?Probably some Trotskyite or LeftCom microsect that exclusively exists in rich college campuses.
>>2495362
Lol, lmao even
>>2495362
>Unironically the closest thing America has to a communist movement is ROCOR
Don't these people literally venerate the White Army?
If orange man and friends actually invade or bomb Venezuela, I wonder if he'll muzzle Univision and other spanish language news agencies for not being sufficiently patriotic.
>>2495345>Snark CuckerbergHe's an Australian living in South America.
Hazoids should be beaten with fish because it’s funny
>uhhh durrrr I love e-celeb
Ok subhuman screenie
SEND YOUR ENERGY TO HEGSETH FOR A FULL SCALE AMPHIBIOUS INVASION OF IRAN THROUGH THE PERSIAN GULF
SPIN UP THE SUICIDE SPEEDBOATS IRGC-BROS
>>2495380So worse empanada
>>2495380omg, so just like Bad Empanada. But he has an American accent. Why are they like this? They come from a country just as settler-colonial as america, moved to spanish settler colonies, and declare themselves more anti american than osama bin laden lmfao
>>2495380Spell out the name
>>2495397Snark Cuckerberg is literally his tiktok name
>>2495396Gustavo petro is literally castro reincarnated how dare you
>>2495396Isn't he on record as saying that he doesn't give a shit about communism and is purely motivated by being "anti-west"?
>>2495401It’s an effectively communist politics, it’s not like the American proletariat is getting it done
>>2495397>>2495399without the space (sorry for the isg)
Fun fact about the Democratic Socialists of America:
9 out of 16 members on the National Party Comittee are some form of Marxist. This wasn't the case before Covid
>>2495403the thing about guys like this is I think they're mostly right when it comes to the raw issues but then they gotta go and be australian sexpats in columbia or whatever and it just comes off as clownish
>>2495407ah but I have a non dialectical understanding of parties. parties are always as bad as the day they are founded. this is why democrats are still the party of slavery and andrew jackson, and why DSA is still the party of pro-vietnam war splitters from SPUSA.
>>2495410If it's true he went to South America as a sexpat then I respect him more
>>2495410If communist organizing isn’t possible in the US or Australia what’s the problem with moving to some place where communism is actually in the class interests of the majority? If they learn Spanish and are nice to their neighbors what’s the issue?
>>2495408
he is america's park chung hee de gaulle peron, no i will not elaborate
>>2495288and he tried inviting Lula to that trap lmao
>>2495297you greatly overestimate people's willingness to fight. no way in fuck it would be anywhere like vietnam, there's no well-organized, militant ideology unifying the people and they're not used to preceding decades of nearly-ceaseless fighting. you might get a minuscule group who will remain fighting, the vast majority of people would at most pu up non-violent protest, if not embrace Maduro's fall because they're just tired of immiseration by sanctions
>>2495403Well with that defeatist attitude nothing is going to change
>>2495416>If communist organizing isn’t possible in the US or AustraliaI get being a communist in exile. Hell, Lenin was one himself, But if every single Russian organizer had done what Lenin had done, fled the country, gone to switzerland. They would have all come to the conclusion "Tsarist Russia is a lost cause, just too reactionary" and there would never have been a February revolution, let alone an October Revolution. The most reactionary countries aren't "lost causes" they are actually the places that are reaching a boiling point. I am simultaneously being told I am the scum of the Earth for being born here, and that everyone wants me dead, but also that I should move to their countries (colonization). Which is it?
>>2495421If you’re in the imperial core you have a much better chance of becoming petit bourgeois than you do at revolution, unless this calculus changes nothing will.
>>2495417this one was meant for
>>2495416 >>2495424Becoming petit bourgeois wont fix any of the underlying issues that lead to people's discontent
>>2495422The US the rest of the anglosphere do not in any way resemble early 20th century Russian empire.
>>2495416it's possible it's just that most westerners don't see the actual revolutionary base as their "fellow citizens" (immigrant labor, lumpens, gender oppressed, internally colonized)
>>2495430>in any wayThey neither resemble it "in every way" nor "in any way." Your statement is too extreme. America is the sick old man of hte world, just like the Ottomans were the sick old man of Europe. America is a reactionary empire on the verge of collapse, just like the Tsarist and Qing Empires were. What did these 3 empires have in common? Revolution after collapse. What happens if all the revolutionaries declare their homelands lost causes and go to become sexpats and mooch off social democracy in the 3rd world and declare their own people to be evil and good for nothing? Communism already has a reputation for being either a 5th column for foreign powers, or snobbish. Why make that true?
>>2495440Immigrant labor literally has the least reason to rebel, in fact if they do, remittances are cut off
>>2495443The Ottoman empire never had the world reserve currency
>>2495435
> their chauvinism and tacit approval of imperialism
proof I demonstrated either of these characteristics you lying snake?
>>2495440That’s not a tenable coalition
tbh after seeing the reaction to charlie kirk abroad leads me to believe american culture is so dominant that a revolution here would start a wave of revolutions everywhere else lol
>>2495446Is that whg they were participating in riots literally a couple months ago.
>>2495447Black people are internally colonized
>>2495448America's status as the world reserve currency is not going to last because of BRICS, because of dedollarization, and because of the pivot to protectionism. America cannot simultaneously go back to being an export-based economy that levies tariffs on enemies and allies alike, and keep its currency hegemony. Its currency hegemony is entirely rooted in the free trade doctrine and neoliberalism. that paradigm is quickly collapsing as the American bourgeoisie have decided that they need to reindustrialize to prepare for war with China. But to reindustrialize proletarianizes the petty bourgeoisie and reintroduces class struggle to the land of "treatlerites." Can't you see that? Why abandon the nation at this critical moment to go make tik toks in south america about how burgers are all ontologically evil, including the internal colonized and marginalized workers?
>>2495456>Black people are internally colonizedPrisoners includes more than just black people, but yes, I see your point
>>2495458
So you can't point to a single post where I either demonstrated american chauvinism or tacit approval of imperialism. you are just lying and violating rule 11 and trying to derail a conversation. thanks agent.
>>2495462>m-m-mods!!! muh rules :'(you manchild
>>2495463
I can’t choose to avoid taxes man
>>2495462you are the one derailing the convo since I never mentioned you in the post in the first place
>>2495465yes YOU are the victim
americans are the most oppressed people in history
>>2495463
I never joined the military or police and have not benefited in a single way from my government shooting people and claiming they hired me to do it.
>oh but cheap banana
ok i didn't do the coup in guatemala in 1953. I was born about 40 years after that. Next to nobody in the US has any control over foreign policy. Two imperialist parties monopolize executive branch elections through a first-past-the-post system, and the executive branch monopolizes appointments to the supreme judiciary. The legislative branch is largely made up of bourgeoisie in both the house and the senate. Nobody can sit here and claim that the workers in the USA control or benefit from Palestinian children getting turned into soup.
>>2495464they're in place because you repeatedly lie lie lie, derail derail derail, and have yet to offer proof of your allegations
>>2494885It was a bad empanada post. He was talking about the zionist entity but i changed israel to ameriKKKa. I think the zionist democracy truly represents zionists, in the same way ameriKKKan democracy represents ameriKKKans. Would you whitewash the ziorats in the same way you do now to the ameriKKKans? The lenin theory is outdated and your usage of it is imperialist apologia and outright imperialist revisionism because he never saw ameriKKKa rise to become the evil empire it is today.
>>2495465>I was born about 40 years after thatsame shit that zionist settlers say
<I did not participate in the nakba, I was born here, I did not choose that >hey fellow americans we no longer benefit from this system that kills people in our name for no good reason and we should overthrow it
<ACTUALLY YOU DO BENEFIT FROM IT AND YOU LOVE IT AND YOU CAN'T PROVE OTHERWISE AND YOU'LL NEVER OVERTHROW IT
agent shit agent shit agent shit glowie shit glowie shit glowie shit
EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>2495472I did not mention you in the post and yet you felt attacked
your guilt is eating you
>>2494750I suppose a major caveat to what I said earlier is that in my experience it only really works on your average apolitical nonvoter that is jaded af wrt electoral politics and not actual ideological voters that might even do shit like register for one of the two parties and/or form parasocial relationships with bougie politicians. If they're that libbed out most of the time it's just as you described. Nonvoters>voters always
>>2495480I was replying to the guy who was asking why badempanada moving to South America is a problem
I do not see how you felt attacked by that you schizo
>>2495468If you have info on how to commit tax fraud I will gladly do BDS on the American government
>>2495483Hopefully he would start shooting
>>2495484you dont need to do all of that
just stop being an American citizen, move to Mexico
>>2495475I would move to the UK as rastafarianism commands but they’re just as complicit, in fact they’re probably going to get annexed by the US next year
>>2495486I dont think Leftypol is that relevant for feds to monitor it
just my two cents
>>2495362
haz, is that you?
>>2495481who does the "they" in that post refer to? the anon that you were replying to was replying to? or badempanada type sexpats?
>>2495487I can’t learn Spanish, will Jamaica, Trinidad, or Barbados work?
>>2495244Reducing the number of generals is part of Project 2025
>Reduce the number of generals. Rank creep is pervasive. The number of 0-6 to 0-9 officers is at an all-time high across the armed services (above World War II levels), and the actual battlefield experience of this officer corps is at an all-time low. The next President should limit the continued advancement of many of the existing cadre, many of whom have been advanced by prior Administrations for reasons other than their warfighting prowess. >>2495488I dont understand that
why the UK?
why are the only options all KKK-lands?
move to Mexico, or Bolivia, or Botswana, or Bangladesh
plenty of options
if you dont have money for a plane flight, just illegally cross the border into Mexico and work for the cartel
where there is a will, there is a way
>>2495476>hey fellow americans we no longer benefit from this system that kills people in our nameRegular americans know that they still do and are ok with it, that's why they still mostly want redistribution within the system, and if you start talking about "overthrow" or "revolution", they'll call you a traitor.
That's why despite saying that for decades communism has 0 traction in america, americans KNOW that you're lying or are coping when you say that, in fact it probably makes them even more hostile to communism because they think you're trying to pull the wool over their eyes.
The correct line is: JDPON is comingm it's inevitable. You either ally with them against your own bourgeoisie, or end up like nazi germany, but this time nobody's going to operation paperclip you.
>>2495491Ah! so you felt attacked by a simple 'they'!
You have to explain now, why and how you felt targeted by that post.
>>2495491Australians who move to South America are sexpats? That's news to me.
>>2495443>>2495432>>2495446>>2495447>>2495457good posts that contribute
most others are irrelevant bickering
>>2495492that would work great
>>2495499See you in the yard I guess
>>2495496because you were suggesting that staying in america and fighting the imperialist reactionaries is "tacit approval" of imperialism but moving to south america with your burger bucks and making tik toks is real revolution
the american bourgeoisie will just nuke the planet if they come close to being overthrown by a force outside of US borders which is why the US counter-reactionaries, (since "left" or "communists" is too controversial to call them), whether you think they exist or not, has to STAND and FIGHT rather than RUN AWAY and make snarky tik toks about treatlerites in columbia
>>2495505Dog I’ve had multiple middle and high school Spanish classes, I wouldn’t understand the directions you gave if I asked Donde esta el bano
>>2495504>staying in america and fighting the imperialist reactionariesI don't see anyone 'fighting the reactionaries' though
honkoid status?
>>2495509Why would that calculus be different if the threat was within? They were willing to make New Orleans, Detroit, Gary Indiana and Appalachia human sacrifice zones without any threat to their power
>>2495512busy behaving as great victims of the world
can you tell your black and brown brethren to stop oppressing the honkies?
>>2495514you're misusing the word calculus.
>>2495487>just stop being an American citizen, move to MexicoTHEY LITERALLY DON'T WANT US FOR ALL THE REASON YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT IN OTHER POSTS
WE HAVE TO FIGHT OUR REACTIONARY GOVERNMENT FROM INSIDE THE BORDERS, EVEN IF IT KILLS US, BECAUSE THE GIGA-KULAKS THAT RUN THE GOVERNMENT WILL NUKE THE EARTH IF THEY COME CLOSE TO BEING DEFEATED BY A FORCE FROM THE OUTSIDE. IF AMERICA IS REALLY A BIGGER ISRAEL, THEN CONSIDER THE SAMSON OPTION. WHY SHOULD ANTI-REACTIONARY AMERICANS RUN AWAY AND GO CAUSE INFLATION IN GLOBAL SOUTH COUNTRIES?
>>2495517they do not want rich americans who gentrify the place
just go there as a poor fucker so that you cannot gentrify the place
see? you cannot even imagine yourself not being an upper caste. It is unthinkable for you to be a normal dude, no you have to imagine yourself as a gentrifying expat.
>>2495273Maybe some disgruntled officer will try a coup then
>>2495517>anti-reactionary americansoxymoron
america needs an honest to god officers coup like what happened in libya or burkina faso, even if it's not hashtag real revolution, because only that way can you prevent the samson option uncle sam option from being taken by the burger reich leaders.
>but sankara and gadaffi were fighting comprador regimes
america has a comprador regime. even paleoconservatives argue this because we pay for europe and israel's defense instead of building schools and hospitals.
>>2495516Okay, why would the calculation be different? If there was an entirely internal American revolution why wouldn’t they just nuke their own country if they’re going to lose it anyway?
>>2495517>inflationit will happen only if you have a lot of money and are willing to massively spend it and gentrify the place
just act like a poor fucker and you will be fine.
Even better, leave your assets in america and just move your filthy ass and live as a poor man in a poor country
>>2495522I wish I was this buff
>>2495519it was literally argued elsewhere ITT that if you make 13/hr you are bourgeois. I am going by that logic. even proletarian money has more purchasing power outside of the US. but should I run away to mexico legally or illegally? Should I take my spouse and kid or abandon them? should we learn spanish first or wait until we get there? how will we get jobs. "just run away dude lmao" is such a dog shit thing to suggest. we have to fight our reactionaries here so the rest of the world doesn't have to.
>>2495525>it will happen only if it is already happening which is why mexico already deports americans
>>2495523yeah, I hear there are soldiers passing around the green book at fort bragg.
in all seriousness, that will never happen.
>>2495521i am going by your logic of "oh if you're really not an ontologically evil treatlerite just go move to south america then. EZ PZ!"
>>2495528> even proletarian money has more purchasing power outside yes my point still stands
leave all money and assets behind
become a 3$/hr third world brother
>>2495529>already happeningto gentrifying americans
just go there with very little money
Don't patronise Carlos, become Carlos.
>>2495534you don't want us there. we should stay here and overthrow our government before it kills more people.
Moffin, (PBUH) You need to purge every singular third worldist scum off this website. for the good of stopping anti-italian racism, and this reactionism.
>>2495536the rest are undercover. trvst the plqn
predictions on what hegseth does?
>>2495539nah, I want my American brothers in my third-world shithole. Please come.
>>2494178vance must put a more compelling evidence that fighting antifa doesn't make you a nazi instead of simply screeching about.
>>2495536the rest are undercover. trvst the plqn
>>2495543just admit you want to funkytown cartel video us when we get there
>>2495542hands out funko pops o algo
>>2495542Down a bottle of Kirkland brand whiskey then forget
>>2495546God is gonna strike you sinners down.
>>2495538Carlos down there is probably going to be incredulous about some white boys going down just as poor as they are
>>2495539>>2495548there is no cartel in my country
please come
it will be nice
you will find a cute chick and you will form a family
there's free healthcare and free schooling, so your little mongrels will be fine, no need for big bucks
we can sit by the beach Friday nights and curse the Treatlers up North for all our misery
>>2495555Sipping rum on the beach sounds pretty treatler
>>2495555>you will find a cute chick and you will form a family already got 1. we all want to leave america tbh but don't know where to even begin that process, or which country to move to, but at the same time I am torn for all the reasons stated above, namely that the country needs people willing to stand and fight the govt. rather than go live in the places the govt is always committing violence against.
It's kind of funny how both US reactionaries and third worldists are always telling me the same thing: IF YOU DON'T LIKE AMERICA GO LIVE IN CUBA/VIETNAM/DPRK/LAOS/CAMBODIA/ETC
>>2495557we're brown and we're in the southern hemisphere and we're paid like 2$ an hour, so its all good.
THe funko-pop American with his 15$/hr will take all the heat.
>>2495510people learn best not by classes but by being embedded in a native speaking community to be fair
>>2495558>already got 1congrats
>orn for all the reasons stated abovelook gringo, no need to bullshit me.
The only reason you are not moving is because you gonna be paid a shitty salary in my country
so enjoy your treats but do not act as if you gonna sTaNd Up aNd FiGhT tHe ImPeRiAlIsTs
>>2495555Meh not a big fan of the beach
Why don't we all just buy an offshore oil platform and move there?
>>2495563the beach is not a big fan of you either
>>2495558of course the chauvinist sees living in Cuba and Vietnam as a grave insult. Enjoy your reich, whiteboi
>>2495564Yes yes we’ve all played Metal Gear Solid
>>2495563>Doesnt like the beach.Get some sun whitey.
>>2495517>vidrelit's just the obnoxious brats that behave like they own the world, and only their rules apply.
>>2495555sounds great, but I have family here, and unfortunately, I feel a sense of duty to destroy this country from within. Che said it best
If americans aren't exceptionally stupid and it's just a stereotype, then explain this thread
>>2495571I wish you all the best. The beach is not going anywhere anyway, so you can still visit after the revolution and after the resounding success of the first Five-Year Plan
>>2495573latinos are just Spanish honkies
stop acting as if you are sooo different
>>2495572We have a deliberately bad education and the people who post here aren’t a representative sample
>>2495576Latinos have way more native American heritage than the average white american does though
>>2495575how's rojava these days, Kurdanon? Haven't heard of them in a while
>>2495579You never heard of the one drop rule?
If you have a single drop of white blood, you ARE white. No ifs and buts.
>>2495575very funny, but we really have our work cut out for us, simply blowing up a building or even taking out some "elected" goons isn't going to cut it.
>>2495574thank you comrade <3 apologies for the havoc this entity has wrought in my name
>>2495575American Republicans would more likely support the Orange Order or UDF.
>>2495583Sure, buddy. You are working around the clock will posting in a useless thread.
>>2495579lol, no. Mostly Spanish, but its much more complicated than that now a days. Most Hispanics are mestizo with some if not more Spanish blood.
>>2495588he posts here and there. That barely counts as 'round the clock'.
>>2495561>The only reason you are not moving is because you gonna be paid a shitty salary in my country Ok by that logic why don't you just move to america? it's so goood here lmao (not the anon). Also I knew guys who got software degrees and moved to lat am and get paid plenty because they are… wow…. working in a high paid field regardless of country. American WORKERS don't make "salaries" they make wages hourly, and their wages don't purchase much because even though american WAGES have high purchasing power OUTSIDE OF AMERICA (due to currency hegemony, which is dying anyway due to inflation and the pivot to protectionism) they have low purchasing power INSIDE OF AMERICA.
>>2495592they're all just white
>>2495592It depends, Argentina and Uruguay were about as successful as the US in native genocide, Mexico, Peru, Bolivia, Central America not so much, Mayans are still like half of Guatamala’s population even after the Silent Holocaust
fred hampton why don't you just move to mexico fred hampton. you stupid gringo fred hampton
The larp particles are strong ITT.
Go to school, get a real job, and be normal, you histrionic dipshits
>>2495603>Go to school, get a real job, and be normal, you histrionic dipshitsconservative bootstrapism on my leftypol? it's more likely than you think
>>2495598>working in a high paid field regardless of countryyou dont know shit
>why don't you just move to america?because despite what your propaganda channels tell you, one does not simply move to america. You have to be accepted for a job, you need to get the visa (which itself costs a lot) etc. If I could, I would come and engage in the Treatlerism with pleasure. Alas, I am not deemed superior enough to join the Amerikkkan volk by the American porky.
>>2495596thank you
>>2495596there are still people here who are principled and want to put in the work, I take it upon myself to reach them. it costs nothing
>>2495603Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that’s why I post on company time
>>2495602fred Hampton was stupid, yes. White liberals pretend like he was a hero just so that they look like allies of Da Blacks.
>>2495603and yet you stick around. Because despite the treats, your life is empty. You are sad and alone. Your wife hates you. Your parents abandoned you. Your cat wants to kill you.
>>2495607Then go blow shit up.
>>2495600South America is completely white. Including ALL Brazilians and Guyana, Surinam etc.
ALL HONKIES.
Wow this thread sucks
>>2495615I take the credit for that.
>>2495620
That’s not a choice in your power to make, should we do heroin under a bridge out of solidarity?
>>2495627>heroin under a bridge out of solidarity? What a stupid ass comparison.
>>2495634That’s the only way Americans get even close to the material conditions of the places they victimize
why do people want to run away to different countries when the decline of the burger empire will reveal better places to live on this continent? imagine if the federal govt collapsed and regional shit like the great lakes became important again. i would love to live in a rejuvenated Detroit.
>>2495715The people who constantly rant about how all Americans regardless of status should be butchered are the ones suggesting leaving, for some reason
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