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>>2492695Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2494230Named 2pac
Had 6pac
Shot 4pACK
>>2494252Stop consooming Funkopop-science
It’s click bait lazy garbage
>>2494260hypotheses remain hypotheses until we produce them experimentally
>>2494262>which means you destroy the universe as you do it, but it's possiblethat sounds like a bad idea
>>2494269>>2494263I actually don't get this, I'm talking from work I haven't looked at for a couple of decades, because destroying the universe to do something is stupid
>>2494260There's some things from new work on reference frames that hint this might be possible, expand?
>>2494292that's a video, not an image
and you got nuked for being retarded
>>2494297Yeah because it is usually NASA people who lie, and NOT military ghouls
Tell me more, Mrs Candace Owens.
Feds Disappear Trans People from “LGBT”The Trump administration’s war on diversity has a new casualty, removing the “T” (for “transgender”) from “LGBT” in its internal threat reports, according to copies I’ve obtained.
Two federal intelligence reports warning of threats to Pride Day events in June make repeated reference to the dangers to the “LGB+ community” with no mention whatsoever of transgender people. This comes amid the Trump administration’s campaign to capitalize on the death of Charlie Kirk to wage war on transgender suspects as “nihilist violent extremists.”
The sad irony here is that transgender people suffer the highest rate of hate crimes of any group within the LGBT community, underscoring how strange it is to omit them from reports intended to enhance public safety.
Adoption of the “LBG+” acronym has been observed in several other federal agencies since Trump took office, including, as I reported at the time, the State Department. The use of the term by the national security state has not been previously reported.
Commenting on the removal of references to transgender people on the National Park Service’s official website earlier this year, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul condemned the move as “cruel and petty,” adding: “Transgender people play a critical role in the fight for LGBTQ+ rights — and New York will never allow their contributions to be erased.”
Apparently the governor does not know the ways of the national security state. Multiple New York law enforcement agencies are coauthors of the main intelligence report I obtained, an overview of threats to Pride events in New York across the country.
“The threat of violence against the LGB+ community and Pride events primarily stems from ideologically motivated lone offenders or small groups of individuals with anti-LGB+ grievances,” the report begins. “According to NYPD [New York Police Department], several acts of violence and intimidation targeting the LGB+ community have occurred over the past several years in the NYC area.”
The 11-page threat report covers everything from suicide drone attacks and improvised explosive devicess, sketching out the dangers to “LGB+” people, gay couples, Hispanic people, Jewish people, Muslims, Arabs, Sikhs, South Asians, Middle Easterners. Even Luigi Mangione makes an appearance! But nowhere in the entire report are transgender people mentioned — again, the highest risk group in the LGBT community.
What’s striking is not the content of the threat warnings themselves — which echo years of law enforcement bulletins — but the terminology. At every turn, the reports describe the danger to the “LGB+ community.” Transgender people are written out entirely.
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard expressed opposition to transgenderism in August, calling the “belief that any man can become a woman, and any woman can become a man” a “manifestation of their darkness and desire to be God…”
From Trump’s first term through Biden, agencies used “LGBT” or even longer formulations like “LGBTQIA+” in their threat products. These and other documents were provided to me by the transparency nonprofit Property of the People, which obtained them under open records requests.
“This hateful crusade has been in motion for months, long before Charlie Kirk’s killing became the feeble pretext for its escalation,” Property of the People’s executive director Ryan Shapiro told me.
As late as January 24 of this year, four days into Trump’s administration, the “LGBTQIA” acronym was still being used, as seen in an intelligence report produced by the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis.
But by May, the same agency had dropped the acronym , according to another report about the potential for a terror attack targeting Pride Month in general.
“Violent extremists motivated by a range of anti-LGB+ grievances probably view upcoming Pride events in the Homeland as potential targets for attacks,” the report begins.
Referencing far-flung groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda, the report is brimming with tactical advice, proposing moves like “monitoring for pre-operational surveillance by threat actors,” “sweeps of event sites for abandoned containers” and even “public awareness campaigns” — but not once are trans people mentioned.
Disclaimers appear in the documents about the national security state’s painstaking efforts to respect the civil liberties of people’s “race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sex,” and on and on. The FBI could start by getting its terminology right (perhaps with one of their public awareness campaigns?)
According to advocacy organizations like GLAAD and Stonewall, the term LGBTQ+ is the term preferred by the community.
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/feds-disappear-trans-people-from >>2494322The great Trump-JK Rowling alliance.
If only Harry Potter libshits in 2010 could see the future…
>>2494328yankees dismissed the fascist attitude of its armies around the world for so long, never thinking that this savagery could be unleashed on themselves back home
Now, when it’s too late, it all dawns upon them
>>2494335Im not using the civil war era definition.
A yankee is any citizen of the USA. Even a newborn.
>>2494376>overly emotional response that ignores that I said the amount of energy needed to do it would destroy the universeYou're a native speaker aren't you?
Native speakers should be banned from science
>>2494408>Maths is magicOk
Now let's talk about those funny pen scrawls on the bullets
>>2494418Memetic labeling of shell and bullet casings. Everyone’s got a “chatGPT summarize this” bullet pointed version of a manifesto now. It’s like a tweet, you have a character limit.
But I would expect the guy to be going after ICE.
>>2494408Also the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin is infinite, because as abstract entities angels have no extension
So anyway about those funny scrawls on the bullets attributed to the alleged killer of those ICE detainees, many of whom have disappeared lately?
>>2494418If you knew anything about the math and science, you would know that there are dozens of different conflicting theories and math formulas when it comes to that level.
Retards really goong "trust the science bro" talking about some purely speculative mental masturbation some bored physics professor made as a joke that has no experimental basis in anything.
>>2494414>The shooter was apparently posting on reddit about ivermectin.He also posted weird stuff about christianity and aliens:
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/517095765I could be wrong, but he doesn't seem like a left-winger.
>>2494427Theoretically means it's not forbidden by the science son
What do you think about how fresh those blue pen scratchings on the bullet look?
>>2494344Oh right, so this covid-schizo was anti-ice and that's why he went and shot some migrants. Makes sense.
Americans will believe this despite calling the most open and shut cases conspiracies.
>>2494465No, I’m serious.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that clip type incompatible with the kind of weapon the shooter used? Can someone shed light on this?
>>2494465I think it is?
what were they supposed to have used
>>2494463Anon this shit looks like it's from the fucking Great War nobody can shoot that shit straight.
and i'm supposed to believe a schizo did it and hit 3 times?
>>2494472Oh nm there's a response
>>2494471Apparently a Kar 98k
>>2494454 >>2494527>>2494531genuinely why is it always pedophilia with these people, and why is it always israel?
that country needs to be nuked off the face of the earth
>>2494531https://xcancel.com/KlonnyPin_Gosch/status/1970321504484327512#mTwitter thread on the topic
>>2494545Archived article from 2001
https://archive.is/BNMMF>Romanian authorities are looking into possible links between Israeli adoption agencies and an illegal global conspiracy to sell organs for transplants.>The Romanian Embassy in Israel has asked for, and received from the Labor and Social Affairs Ministry, a list of all children born in Romania who have been brought to Israel for adoption in recent years. The Romanian officials are trying to ascertain if all such children arrived in Israel with all organs in their bodies.>In its request to the Labor and Social Affairs Ministry, the Romanians did not offer evidence in support of suspicions of a link between adoption and organ trafficking. The inquiry is part of a broader investigation involving Romanian children sent to Italy and the United States.>As Ha'aretz has reported in the past, some Israeli physicians were involved in illegal kidney transplants and the sale of humauyghs in Turkey, Romania, and other countries in East Europe.>In parallel with the organ investigation, officials from Romania's central adoption agency and from Israel's Labor and Social Affairs Ministry and police, are also examining possible criminal activity of two groups dealing with the adoption of Romanian children by Israeli parents.Among other suspicions, officials are checking whether one Romanian group, headed by an Israeli, has forged adoption papers, and whether children have been offered to Israeli parents without proper, legal process.
>Responding to complaints and rumors, Romanian authorities have taken the highly unusual step in the past year of withholding authorization for the adoption of 16 Romanian babies destined for Israeli parents. >This delay has been enforced although the Israeli couples have paid $20,000 each to adopt the infants, and have already become acquainted with the babies in the foster homes and institutions where they are being held. Romanian authorities insist they will not give the go ahead for the adoptions until inquiries about possible wrong-doing are completed.>To help finalize the adoptions, the Labor and Social Affairs Ministry turned to President Moshe Katsav and asked him to raise the issue with Prime Minister Adrian Nastase when he visited Israel last July. Foreign Minister Shimon Peres also raised it with Romanian officials during his recent visit there.>Parents affiliated with the "Future of the Children" group, based in Rehovot, have also appealed to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to help finalize the adoptions of the Romanian children. >>2494162this is all you have to do when speaking to americans about socialism is when you inevitably have to re litigate the 1917 revolution and the USSR show the parallels between both the first capitalist liberal republic and socialist republic faced similar issues and are dysfunctional clusterfucks that still manage to achieve absurd shit. Most issues with the russian revolution americans have are literally things that happened in the after math of the american revolution:
>gusano community of loyalists in southern canada>shays rebellion and whiskey rebellion>centrist with strongman image who doesn't really care abt ideological infighting>widespread food insecurity exacerbated by incompetent officials and local petty bourgeois >absolutist powers not wanting to trade or actively sanctioning the early republic(France despite giving direct military aid in the revolution refused any free trade agreements partially out of fear of the spread of republicanism)I mean the US took at least ~250 years to even get close to universal suffrage and thats as important to libs as seizing the means is too us. Why would you expect socialist revolutions under arguably greater pressure than the previous liberal ones to somehow not be equally messy and prolonged is the question to pose to them.
tldr:get them to hold the russian revolution to the same standard they hold the american revoltion that most americans have which is openly acknowledging glaring contradictions while still be overall supportive cuz fuck the older order of things and the aristocracy/bourgeois.
>>2494162>His whole critique is that capitalism drops the ball on all of that"You know, the thing!" - Joe Biden
>clueless leftists come around trying to rebrand Marx as some champion of authoritarianismsoy idealist utopian radlibs will never utter any historical materialist class war for even a single second, that's why we call those smug Zionist degenerates like Contrapoints "radical liberals"
>>2494194>Charlie Kirk placed on US currencyFreemasons 👁️
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/what-ring-was-erika-kirk-wearing-g-mark-sparks-freemason-theories-about-charlie-kirks-wife-101757875438065.htmlhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/charlie-kirk-was-not-a-freemason-but-he-apparently-knew-some-people-who-were/ar-AA1N4nGw?ocid=U348DHP >>2494542I get the feeling that "pedophilia" is the last moral issue they can realistically grandstand on, and like "pro life" is a phrase that primes people to not think about what they're actually talking about.
As far as Israel, it's a mixture of anti semitism, along with general xenophobia and conspiratorial thinking. If Max Blumenthal is to be believed, then a big issue among the maga rank and file is the "influence/ domination" that Israel is apparently exhibiting over the US government. You've got Trump himself who has said he would do a number of things only to do the opposite, shit like the Epstein files which not only involve organized pedophilia circles but child trafficking but also the allegations that he was a mossad asset, and now prominently Netanyahu not only apparently calling the shots on us foreign and domestic policy, but coming out very shortly after charlie kirk was killed under mysterious circumstances to say that he didn't do it.
So yeah, for a lot of rightoids Israel is becoming a real bugbear at the center of all their other anxieties, real or imagined.
>>2494683I think the ruling class is infertile and elon is basically their jizz supply. A boy and his dog type situation.
>>2494371Old Ben has still got it, lmao
>>2494645>So yeah, for a lot of rightoids Israel is becoming a real bugbear at the center of all their other anxieties, real or imagined.Good
I'd rather ally with rightoids that actually believe in "America First", as misguided/stupid as it is, than zionists that only view my home country as a means of triggering their doomsday prophecy.
>>2494755 (me)
seriously, memes about Trump porking Erika and/or cucking Kirk are gonna be the next big trigger of reactoid snowflakes, they won't get as much of a reaction as memes about his death but believe me, they seethe over it. BUY, BUY, BUY!
>>2494831A Greek God
The Lustful Turk Hasan Piker fears Stavros Halkias's unparalleled manly physique
>>2494837I mean, sure. We are at the point where the feds only bother to provide a corpse and a sharpie scribble.
At this rate, the next shooter will be a transgender, communist of color, illegal migrant, card carrying antifa(!?), detonating a suicide vest out of sight, in an empty parking. And we'll know by the confession they presumably mailed to the police station beforehand decorated with swastikas and Palestine flags.
>>2494849>ameriKKKa is in a way one of the most democratic countries in the world: its government's overarching policies have always perfectly represented the consensus among those with the right to vote.Let's ignore the fact that you're impersonating someone and address your arguments directly:
>ameriKKKa is in a way one of the most democratic countries in the worldMarx says bourgeois democracy (which is what America has to this very day) is shallow and vulgar:
<Even vulgar democracy, which sees the millennium in the democratic republic, and has no suspicion that it is precisely in this last form of state of bourgeois society that the class struggle has to be fought out to a conclusion — even it towers mountains above this kind of democratism, which keeps within the limits of what is permitted by the police and not permitted by logic.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htmHe points out that any attempt (even if reformist, liberal, republican) to change anything in bourgeois society to not reflect the interests of the bourgeoisie is slandered as socialist:
<Every demand of the simplest bourgeois financial reform, of the most ordinary liberalism, of the most formal republicanism, of the most shallow democracy, is simultaneously castigated as an "attempt on society" and stigmatized as "socialism".
<Marx in The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852)However, he does not talk about democracy in and of itself as being inherently bourgeois, and stresses the need for the proletariat to "win the battle of democracy."
<[…] the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htmLenin says:
< […] the workers of the whole world sympathise with the Soviet Republic precisely because they regard it as a proletarian democracy, a democracy for the poor, and not a democracy for the rich that every bourgeois democracy, even the best, actually is.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/prrk/democracy.htmSo we see that
1. Bourgeois democracy is shallow and vulgar and not really democratic
2. Any attempt at peaceful reformism sabotaged, slandered, made impossible, leaving violent revolution inevitable.
3. The proletariat must win the battle for real proletarian democracy, which bourgeois democracy can never be.
Your next claim:
> its government's overarching policies have always perfectly represented the consensus among those with the right to vote.Were this the case, the franchise would have never expanded beyond the people who originally held it for themselves. First it was only white men with property. Then, it was only white men. Then it was only men. Then finally after 1919 it was men and women. So we have "universal" (adult) suffrage. But this does not matter because turnout is low, the options are limited, the education is dogshit, the districts are gerrymandered, the parties are corrupt, the voting machines are not trustworthy, the democracy is representative rather than direct, the voting is FPTP rather than ranked choice usually, and the judicial branch and executive branch overpower the legislative branch.
>>2494887NON SEQUITUR THAT DOESN'T REPLY TO ANYTHING I SAID. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND STOP BOTHERING ME WITH YOUR IRRELEVANT UTTERANCES.
>>2494886Don't expect people over the age of 65 to be very effective workers, especially when you're slashing safety regulations and medicaid and medicare and imposing austerity and union busting all at the same time.
>>2494903Why should the bottom 50% care about the wealth disparity between the 1% and the next 49%?
And why should the global 90% care about the wealth disparity between the global top 1% and the next 9%?
Inter-bourgeois infighting.
>>2494909Who's "we" here.
Westoids just want the surplus of the western burger flipper and software engineer to no longer be stolen, but they don't care about the surplus value stolen from the brazillian farm worker who supplied the beef, and the african slave who provided the cobalt.
because they know that fixing the latters would make burgers and computers more expensive
>>2494922You can't take control of your destiny if you can't identify "who are our friends and who are our enemies" like mao said, and instead signal boost middle class whining, thinking they have any interest in revolution.
You take "the middle class in the west has no revolutionary potential" to mean "there is no revolutionary potential in the west", because you unconsciously unperson the actual poor, think that communism is populism, and are basically retreading proudhon.
>>2494935a quick google search will teach you a lot about Chagos. You do not have to believe me.
Not every volk oppressed by your fascist machinery is well-known, unfortunately. It is also impossible, since your fascist overlords oppress at an unprecedented rate, one cannot keep up even in the 'age of information'.
https://www-msnbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/maddow/blog/rcna232888?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17587275851412&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnbc.com%2Frachel-maddow-show%2Fmaddowblog%2Ftrumps-directive-ag-bondi-seen-impeachment-level-scandal-rcna232888
>The online missive was head-spinning in its absurdity. Trump began his message, “I have reviewed over 30 statements and posts saying that, essentially, ‘same old story as last time, all talk, no action. Nothing is being done. What about Comey, Adam ‘Shifty’ Schiff, Leticia??? They’re all guilty as hell, but nothing is going to be done.’”
>In other words, to hear the president tell it, he saw some “posts” from unnamed people who want some of Trump’s political adversaries to be punished, because they’re “guilty” of unidentified crimes, and these “posts” should necessarily spur action from the Justice Department, because the president said so.
>Concluding that “they” impeached him and tried to hold him accountable for a variety of alleged felonies, the Republican concluded that he’s desperate to turn the tables on his enemies. “JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED, NOW!!!” he wrote. >>2494992>interpreting this a defence of child labouryou clearly have no respect for the text:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/append.htm>3. "Restriction of female labor and prohibition of child labor."<"Prohibition of child labor." Here it was absolutely essential to state the age limit.marx has his limit. send the kids to the factory at 9.
stop being so defensive over your victorian grandpa.
>>2495003youre just creating a paradox which feeds the ponzi scheme.
import immigrants -> they retire -> more immigrants -> they retire, etc.
thats why the capitalists want to raise retirement, so that you die before you cash out.
>>2495005it's an argument I hear from pro-immigration leftists from France. "Our social security system is not sustainable. We need migrant labour (specially for low wage jobs like deliverymen etc)".
Firstly, that assumes swallowing the right-wing think tank 'reports' which present the social security as unsustanable in order to push for austerity. This unsustainabilty can easily be addressed by simply taxing porky more.
Secondly, it displays a perverse attitude by the European lefty. Instead of fighting for higher taxes on porky, instead of addressing the issue of low wage jobs by (i) increasing salary so that young europeans consider those jobs and (ii) automate what can be automated (like staffless grocery stores in Japan), the European lefty rather fully accepts the neoliberal state of things and simply wants poor Mamadou from Senegal to cross the mediterannean dangerously and work shitty job (which Charlotte and Jean-Pierre are too good for) in order to pay for the social security of fucking Charlotte and Jean Pierre.
I am not anti-immigration, I have simply noticed that neoliberalism has fully conquered every atom in Europe, to the point where even lefties fully accept the neoliberal state of things as THE scientific truth, and offer neoliberal solutions to neoliberal problems.
>>2495005>import immigrants -> they retire -> more immigrants-they retire, etc.bruh what are you trying to say here. Porky only likes immigration if it's illegal and they don't retire here. Friedman explains it best.
>thats why the capitalists want to raise retirement, so that you die before you cash out.obviously. it's a cost saving measure. What I'm trying to say is retirement plans are simply incompatible with a falling population. That's why the USA kept sections of the world permanently underdeveloped so it would always have an immigration source to draw from. Without that they can't afford to run their capitalistic societies
>>2494999You make the mistake of thinking americans profess what they believe, or that they even have a coherent, self-consistent set of values.
A liberal's (in the classical sense, so both dems, cons, etc.) actual positions are comprised entirely out of "reasonable exceptions" to all their abstractly held "principles", resulting in an aggregate tendency towards fascism. That's the core feature of liberalism as an ideology.
>>2495010illegal migrants absolutely do retire and die in the countries they move to.
It is a myth that after working they supposedly go back to their country of origin. At least not the majority of them
>>2495014idk about america but in Europe, illegal migrants do get a level of aid, benefits etc
Clearly not enough, but its not zero either
>>2494918>colonialism and imperialism are "civilization"I thought this was supposed to be a "leftist" board.
tell me more about the great civilizing mission of the white man
>>2495036Why does anyone want to watch this ugly cunt eat?
I don't get twitter.
>>2495130There's nothing to interpret sbout naked chauvinism, just repeating the tired bourgeois line of "they just want to make everyone equally poor"
Quacking like a duck while denying being a duck.
>>2495143You forgot the
> being correct as alwaysAt the end
>>2495133Scusa.
Sono 12€ comunque.
>>2495160so its not an assault on Antifa after all?
just another instance of lib-on-lib violence
>>2495161are you a mod or not?
>>2495121PURGE PURGE PURGE MAKE THE US MILITARY COMPOSED SOLELY OF MANOSPHERE PODCASTERS
CHINESE CENTURY NIHAO WOMEN HUANYING NIN
>>2495214it makes perfect sense
loser mod = shitalian retard = NAFO-lover = cartoon p3d0 lover
>>2495212not sure what your reasoning is here bc in 2022 everyone who wasnt buying the NATO line on russia was convinced ithe buildup was only a bluff BECAUSE putin was serious and wouldnt try an outright invasion. for me the lesson there was to take big logistical & planning moves more seriously than guessing at motives
>>2495224if i had to guess my moneys on venezuela for aforementioned reasoning that theyre already moving things into position in the caribbean + they have genuinely been making moves to pull back and more aggresdively assert monroe doctrine as a tradeoff. but i am not confidently making predictions just saying if i had to put bets somewhere thats what it would be
>>2495264>>2495251what is it with the zoophilic-pedophilic images?!
fuck off to 4chan, degenerates
>>2495121I'm assuming it's something about
>Venezuela>Taiwan>Iran>Palestine>muh internal PVRGE of unamericans who are disloyle to their capoluckily the administration is very ADHD so like everything else so far their reactionary horse shit will be very half assed
>>2495264Thanks
But also I'm
incredibly jelous
>>2495300even maduro opponents have gone on record as wanting to support the PSUV in the event of a US invasion, it would galvanize support for maduro and instantly undo decades of soft-politics to oust him. it would also likely make relationships difficult with the entire south american block, which would be bad enough even if south east asia wasn't already floating out of orbit and into china's orbit. i just cant think of a better way to stunt the US for decades if not a full century.
> and then occupy the country for a couple of years and leave under the condition it surrenders its oil or some shitliterally venezuela's state scaffolding is all centered around extracting oil and selling it for cheap, it's designed to do that. you want to collapse a comprador state to get access to a resource that the comprador state already offers if you ask nicely enough.
>>2495288and he tried inviting Lula to that trap lmao
>>2495297you greatly overestimate people's willingness to fight. no way in fuck it would be anywhere like vietnam, there's no well-organized, militant ideology unifying the people and they're not used to preceding decades of nearly-ceaseless fighting. you might get a minuscule group who will remain fighting, the vast majority of people would at most pu up non-violent protest, if not embrace Maduro's fall because they're just tired of immiseration by sanctions
>>2495446Is that whg they were participating in riots literally a couple months ago.
>>2495447Black people are internally colonized
>>2495465yes YOU are the victim
americans are the most oppressed people in history
>>2495463I never joined the military or police and have not benefited in a single way from my government shooting people and claiming they hired me to do it.
>oh but cheap bananaok i didn't do the coup in guatemala in 1953. I was born about 40 years after that. Next to nobody in the US has any control over foreign policy. Two imperialist parties monopolize executive branch elections through a first-past-the-post system, and the executive branch monopolizes appointments to the supreme judiciary. The legislative branch is largely made up of bourgeoisie in both the house and the senate. Nobody can sit here and claim that the workers in the USA control or benefit from Palestinian children getting turned into soup.
>>2495472I did not mention you in the post and yet you felt attacked
your guilt is eating you
>>2495480I was replying to the guy who was asking why badempanada moving to South America is a problem
I do not see how you felt attacked by that you schizo
>>2495484you dont need to do all of that
just stop being an American citizen, move to Mexico
>>2495486I dont think Leftypol is that relevant for feds to monitor it
just my two cents
>>2495488I dont understand that
why the UK?
why are the only options all KKK-lands?
move to Mexico, or Bolivia, or Botswana, or Bangladesh
plenty of options
if you dont have money for a plane flight, just illegally cross the border into Mexico and work for the cartel
where there is a will, there is a way
>>2495476>hey fellow americans we no longer benefit from this system that kills people in our nameRegular americans know that they still do and are ok with it, that's why they still mostly want redistribution within the system, and if you start talking about "overthrow" or "revolution", they'll call you a traitor.
That's why despite saying that for decades communism has 0 traction in america, americans KNOW that you're lying or are coping when you say that, in fact it probably makes them even more hostile to communism because they think you're trying to pull the wool over their eyes.
The correct line is: JDPON is comingm it's inevitable. You either ally with them against your own bourgeoisie, or end up like nazi germany, but this time nobody's going to operation paperclip you.
>>2495491Ah! so you felt attacked by a simple 'they'!
You have to explain now, why and how you felt targeted by that post.
>>2495443>>2495432>>2495446>>2495447>>2495457good posts that contribute
most others are irrelevant bickering
>>2495512busy behaving as great victims of the world
can you tell your black and brown brethren to stop oppressing the honkies?
>>2495487>just stop being an American citizen, move to MexicoTHEY LITERALLY DON'T WANT US FOR ALL THE REASON YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT IN OTHER POSTS
WE HAVE TO FIGHT OUR REACTIONARY GOVERNMENT FROM INSIDE THE BORDERS, EVEN IF IT KILLS US, BECAUSE THE GIGA-KULAKS THAT RUN THE GOVERNMENT WILL NUKE THE EARTH IF THEY COME CLOSE TO BEING DEFEATED BY A FORCE FROM THE OUTSIDE. IF AMERICA IS REALLY A BIGGER ISRAEL, THEN CONSIDER THE SAMSON OPTION. WHY SHOULD ANTI-REACTIONARY AMERICANS RUN AWAY AND GO CAUSE INFLATION IN GLOBAL SOUTH COUNTRIES?
>>2495517they do not want rich americans who gentrify the place
just go there as a poor fucker so that you cannot gentrify the place
see? you cannot even imagine yourself not being an upper caste. It is unthinkable for you to be a normal dude, no you have to imagine yourself as a gentrifying expat.
>>2495517>inflationit will happen only if you have a lot of money and are willing to massively spend it and gentrify the place
just act like a poor fucker and you will be fine.
Even better, leave your assets in america and just move your filthy ass and live as a poor man in a poor country
>>2495523yeah, I hear there are soldiers passing around the green book at fort bragg.
in all seriousness, that will never happen.
>>2495528> even proletarian money has more purchasing power outside yes my point still stands
leave all money and assets behind
become a 3$/hr third world brother
>>2495529>already happeningto gentrifying americans
just go there with very little money
Don't patronise Carlos, become Carlos.
>>2495536the rest are undercover. trvst the plqn
>>2495543just admit you want to funkytown cartel video us when we get there
>>2495542hands out funko pops o algo
>>2495539>>2495548there is no cartel in my country
please come
it will be nice
you will find a cute chick and you will form a family
there's free healthcare and free schooling, so your little mongrels will be fine, no need for big bucks
we can sit by the beach Friday nights and curse the Treatlers up North for all our misery
>>2495555>you will find a cute chick and you will form a family already got 1. we all want to leave america tbh but don't know where to even begin that process, or which country to move to, but at the same time I am torn for all the reasons stated above, namely that the country needs people willing to stand and fight the govt. rather than go live in the places the govt is always committing violence against.
It's kind of funny how both US reactionaries and third worldists are always telling me the same thing: IF YOU DON'T LIKE AMERICA GO LIVE IN CUBA/VIETNAM/DPRK/LAOS/CAMBODIA/ETC
>>2495557we're brown and we're in the southern hemisphere and we're paid like 2$ an hour, so its all good.
THe funko-pop American with his 15$/hr will take all the heat.
>>2495558>already got 1congrats
>orn for all the reasons stated abovelook gringo, no need to bullshit me.
The only reason you are not moving is because you gonna be paid a shitty salary in my country
so enjoy your treats but do not act as if you gonna sTaNd Up aNd FiGhT tHe ImPeRiAlIsTs
>>2495573latinos are just Spanish honkies
stop acting as if you are sooo different
>>2495579You never heard of the one drop rule?
If you have a single drop of white blood, you ARE white. No ifs and buts.
>>2495575very funny, but we really have our work cut out for us, simply blowing up a building or even taking out some "elected" goons isn't going to cut it.
>>2495574thank you comrade <3 apologies for the havoc this entity has wrought in my name
>>2495598>working in a high paid field regardless of countryyou dont know shit
>why don't you just move to america?because despite what your propaganda channels tell you, one does not simply move to america. You have to be accepted for a job, you need to get the visa (which itself costs a lot) etc. If I could, I would come and engage in the Treatlerism with pleasure. Alas, I am not deemed superior enough to join the Amerikkkan volk by the American porky.
>>2495596thank you
>>2495596there are still people here who are principled and want to put in the work, I take it upon myself to reach them. it costs nothing
>>2495600South America is completely white. Including ALL Brazilians and Guyana, Surinam etc.
ALL HONKIES.
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