>>24946151/2 of my jobs have been stripping at gay bars for below min. wage, and a Propertarian was a co-worker at the first one. Nice guy. Wrong, but he didn't have horns growing out of his head.
Idk who Ben Burgis is. I live in the USA; figure out a way for me and all the white people, black people, and various types of Asians to go back to our ancestral homes without replicating the problem of settler colonialism again and I'll gladly advocate for that in a heartbeat. Until then, materially, what exactly is the difference between me, a settler, and a Propertarian, a settler but with worse opinions? Right now the difference is that the settlers with worse opinions have more guns and resources; socialists need more guns and resources or they'll be fucked whether or not they choose to work with others who oppose Zionism and global war. If we had our shit together, ready to fight, then we would not have to worry about other people, who we disagree with, working against a common enemy. The neurotic fear on display here of teaming up with people you disagree with, directly or indirectly, to combat
genocide, is a symptom of our weakness, not ideological strength. We are not in a position where it can be considered strength, we are in a position where we are
so weak that the prospect of the existing Fascistic American state being overthrown frightens us because
at least we know who will murder us if things carry on as they are. Dogmas provide us comfort from the uncertainty of actually having to do anything; the American left and the "America first" liberal right can't unite against genocide because the American left understands it has nothing to offer and would not be able to defend itself should "the other side" gain power. That needs to change. We need to be more militant, more organized, more prepared, and we need to set our sights on defeating Zionism for the same reason that German dissidents needed to defeat Nazism.
It's ok to temporarily have allies with wrong opinions in the face of that threat; with luck we'll eventually reach a point where we can have many more permanent allies with wrong opinions who are willing to fight for their own class interests as workers against capitalists and landlords. If we can take down the current threat on our own, though… ok, let's see it. We have simple, urgent material goals: stop the genocide, end Zionism, stop the imperial wars, get rid of the war criminals. I'd be glad to be part of a socialist revolution to achieve these; and if the Propertarians were waging a war against it, I would join them in doing so because my own ideology is less important than stopping the holocaust. Today we have neither, and I would rather have both unless the socialists by themselves are prepared to do all of the work alone… which they are not, so ruling out potential allies when we don't even have
ourselves to rely on seems really dumb. If you are comfortable with the status quo, I will choose anyone except an ethnosupremacist as an ally so long as they are not comfortable with the way things are. My position is not determined by the thoughts in my head, but by the effects of material reality and how I wish to change it. If anyone doesn't want me to work with someone against this state of things, then offer a better organized force where a diverse united front. Otherwise, why should I, as PFLP, decline to work with Hamas or PIJ?