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>>2499748seems like the US-Israeli relationship is changing
>US President Donald Trump will speak by phone with Qatari Emir Tamim Al Thani before hosting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today, Axios reports, amid Arab concerns that Trump is altering his Gaza proposal to meet Israeli demands.
>Trump’s advisers tell the outlet that there is growing frustration with Netanyahu in the White House, and that if he says no to Trump’s proposal to end the war, he will be blamed.
>“The Arabs have agreed to it like 100%. Now we’re waiting for the president to work his magic on Netanyahu,” a Trump adviser tells Axios.
>“Everyone — and I mean everyone — is exasperated with Bibi,” says another aide.
>Both US special envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s influential son-in-law Jared Kushner have “just about had it” with Netanyahu, says an adviser. “Both are at their wits’ end with Israel.”
<Some advisers have been telling Trump that his ability to force an end to the fighting in Gaza is a test for his credibility on the world stage.
>According to Axios, the White House saw an opportunity after Netanyahu ordered a strike on Hamas leaders in Qatar earlier this month.
<“When Bibi sent those missiles into Qatar, he united the Gulf state Arabs,” Trump’s adviser tells Axios. “They are all one. They speak with one voice… It was a rallying effect. And on this, for the first time, you really had a monolithic Arab world. And Witkoff and [Secretary of State Marco] Rubio said: ‘Aha, this is the time.'”
>Advisers have also told Trump that Netanyahu is worried primarily about political survival, has been destabilizing the Middle East, and was “manhandling” him. One adviser mentioned Netanyahu’s focus on domestic online political discourse in the US, calling it a “bizarre obsession.”
>>2500945i specified lumpen aesthetics
which means anarchism and/or maoism
>>2500963https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/29/investing/electronics-arts-private-deal Jared Kushner’s firm and the Saudis are taking video game maker EA private in a massive deal
> Video game maker Electronic Arts is going private in a $55 billion deal that’s funded by Saudi Arabia and a Jared Kusher-backed investment firm. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/29/business/dealbook/electronic-arts-buyout-jared-kushner.html$55 Billion Deal for Electronic Arts Is Among Biggest Buyouts Everhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/monicahunter-hart/2025/09/16/how-jared-kushners-bold-bets-in-the-middle-east-made-him-a-billionaire/==How Jared Kushner’s Bold Bets In The Middle East Made Him A Billionaire=
>>2501071The Chinese will try to benefit from any situation, because that's called strategy.
Meanwhile you will bitch about China unmprompted in /usapol/ for three threads in a row and try to make the US-led, US-backed, US-funded genocide about China.
>>2501137>muh ziggerslapdog of the azov battalion award
lapdog of israel award
hater of Iran award
hater of Hamas award
hater of hezbollah award
hater of houthis award
but what about russia award
but what about china award
biggest ultra award
implicitly agreed with every US foreign policy decision award
seethes about America's enemies while his own government commits genocide award
A Jewish chabad member did a big write up of everything that is happening in 770 chabad community which is very famous and powerful in New York. There are big feuds going on by leaders and even outright fist fights in their buildings this week.
Video of a fight there this week
>770 Eastern Parkway (Yiddish: 770 איסטערן פארקוויי), also known as "770" ("Seven Seventy"), is the street address of the World Headquarters of the Chabad-Lubavitch Hasidic movement, located on Eastern Parkway in the Crown Heights neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York. The building is the center of the Chabad-Lubavitch world movement and considered by many to be an iconic site in Judaism.[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/770_Eastern_ParkwaySources from Jewish new outlets of what is happening
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jewish/comments/1nt9xbd/meshichist_violence_escalates_at_770_during_the/https://crownheights.info/op-ed/922355/op-ed-yes-its-our-community-funding-this-chaos/https://crownheights.info/op-ed/922370/response-we-must-protect-770-without-abandoning-hachnosas-orchim/https://crownheights.info/chabad-news/922357/security-company-releases-public-statement-over-rosh-hashana-madness/https://chabadinfo.com/seven-seventy/roshei-yeshivos-follow-the-rabbonim-or-be-expelled/https://col.org.il/news/172055https://chabad.info/seven-seventy/1254443/https://col.org.il/news/172034Don't ask me how I know this, but Benjamin Netanyahu has more leverage on the US than just AIPAC bribes and sex crimes blackmail… Using covert agents with dual citizenship, he has planted small nuclear weapons discretely in major population centers in all 50 states, and has threatened each of the past 5 presidents, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden with total nuclear annihilation if they don't follow his script, acquiesce to his demands, and follow his humiliation rituals. This is not a lie. All will be revealed in time. Also the Mormons, Falun Gong, and Scientologists are also arms of Israeli infiltration at this point, because Israelis have infiltrated these cults and use them as alternatives to their main points of entry.
Another thing you don't know: You aren't getting protectionism and reindustrialization, and for about 40 percent of traffic the tariffs aren't even being enforced at the ports. There's so much bribery going on at the ports right now that will be revealed in trials in the coming years.
>>2501146why remove IRA and Fanon?
Marcus Aurelius i can see, i used to be a grindset bro lmao a lot of that shit is from that era
>>2501156>>2501158the two genders of reply
>>2501151obvious larp is obvious, but
>past 5 presidentswasn't Netanyahu only in power for some of those? wikipedia lists his prime ministerial terms as follows:
1996-1999, 2009-2021, 2022-now
>>2501157Keep Marcus Aurelius.
The right has been appropriating the ancient Greeks and Romans and twisting their writings for their benefit. The ancients, being ancient, will of course not match to our reality one-to-one. So we should not be surprised to find some 'problematic' takes. However, the ancients neither fit perfectly for the right nor the left. It would be stupid to abandon the historical giants to the right. Michael Parenti did well in applying class struggle analysis to Caesar's rise, he did not restrict himself to "Caesar big bad autocrat boo hoo" superficiality.
>>2501163Parenti should be on the list. Better to add to the list than to take away from the list.
The list should be focused on building an action oriented mindset. It's not supposed to be a "ancom 101" list per say, so we don't need a lot of the 'basic' pieces of theory. It's a soldiers reading list. Some theory is good, but you need texts to be able to develop a particular mindset, and in that realm, I think there's value in some basic stoicism, some basic samurai code shit.
>>2501157i could tell you used to be a grindset guy. honestly even tho i find a lot of what you make cringe
albeit non-objectionable and overall very positive for what i see as our shared cause we need 1000 more grindset guys coming to communism we have far too many people like me who are too self conscious and critical to just push propaganda everywhere and shamelessly try different strategies of outreach. i think we need both but the latter is far overrepresented and far less useful for immediate practical outreach.
>>2501174Wrong. Parenti is not Communist. Not even leftist. Parenti is free tibet anti-Stalin, feudalist trotskyite, anti-Communism rightoid. It is always better to remove liberals than to add them because liberalism like this is brainrot.
https://redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/>If China is the great success story of speedy free market development, and is to be the model and inspiration for Tibet’s future, then old feudal Tibet indeed may start looking a lot better than it actually was.This one drop of liberalism taken to heart pollute the whole revolutionary body. Parenti is to be banned from leftist reading
>>2501204>Parenti is pro-TibetYou are lying again. He wrote an entire book about how Tibet promotes "friendly feudalism" and is supported by Western glowies and how Mao Zedong overthrew the Dalai Lama's theocratic pedophilic slavery system.
https://redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/Some excerpts:
<in the United States, the American Society for a Free Asia, a CIA-financed front, energetically publicized the cause of Tibetan resistance, with the Dalai Lama’s eldest brother, Thubtan Norbu, playing an active role in that organization. The Dalai Lama’s second-eldest brother, Gyalo Thondup, established an intelligence operation with the CIA as early as 1951. He later upgraded it into a CIA-trained guerrilla unit whose recruits parachuted back into Tibet
<Many Tibetan commandos and agents whom the CIA dropped into the country were chiefs of aristocratic clans or the sons of chiefs. Ninety percent of them were never heard from again, according to a report from the CIA itself, meaning they were most likely captured and killed. [32] “Many lamas and lay members of the elite and much of the Tibetan army joined the uprising, but in the main the populace did not, assuring its failure,” writes Hugh Deane. [33] In their book on Tibet, Ginsburg and Mathos reach a similar conclusion: “As far as can be ascertained, the great bulk of the common people of Lhasa and of the adjoining countryside failed to join in the fighting against the Chinese both when it first began and as it progressed.” [34] Eventually the resistance crumbled.
<In old Tibet there were small numbers of farmers who subsisted as a kind of free peasantry, and perhaps an additional 10,000 people who composed the “middle-class” families of merchants, shopkeepers, and small traders. Thousands of others were beggars. There also were slaves, usually domestic servants, who owned nothing. Their offspring were born into slavery. [16] The majority of the rural population were serfs. Treated little better than slaves, the serfs went without schooling or medical care. They were under a lifetime bond to work the lord’s land — or the monastery’s land — without pay, to repair the lord’s houses, transport his crops, and collect his firewood. They were also expected to provide carrying animals and transportation on demand. [17] Their masters told them what crops to grow and what animals to raise. They could not get married without the consent of their lord or lama. And they might easily be separated from their families should their owners lease them out to work in a distant location. [18]
<…few Tibetans would welcome a return of the corrupt aristocratic clans that fled with him in 1959 and that comprise the bulk of his advisers. Many Tibetan farmers, for example, have no interest in surrendering the land they gained during China’s land reform to the clans. Tibet’s former slaves say they, too, don’t want their former masters to return to power. “I’ve already lived that life once before,” said Wangchuk, a 67-year-old former slave who was wearing his best clothes for his yearly pilgrimage to Shigatse, one of the holiest sites of Tibetan Buddhism. You are full of shit. and you
slander Parenti to troll. Reported.
>>2501207He slanders Communist China. Read the text in full retard
>>2501215Incorrect. An anarchist is praising a trotskyite. In usual fashion. It is the leftist job to speak up and put an end to the nonsense
>>25012111.its not a book. It ia an article.
2. He gives a usual nuanced liberal take. Crying of chinese neoliberalism and chinese imperialism. He even calls Communist China poor offhandedly. He only cites western sources.
>>2501222>Are you the same glowing individual who predicted the Ukraine war a few years before it started? The ukraine ware started in 2014 when America couped Ukraine, put Poroshenko in power, made them take a bunch of IMF loans, and started a civil war in the Donbass region predicated on ethnic cleansing of Russian speakers, gypsies, and anyone seen as "not properly Ukrainian."
Only idiots didn't see that war coming. NATO expansion into Ukraine had been a goal since at least George W Bush waged proxy war on Russia via Georgia and started talking up Ukrainian membership, but really NATO expansion up to Russia had been the plan since 1991, even though NATO promised Gorbachev the opposite. The entire reason Gorbacuck dissolved the USSR was because he thought it would create lasting peace in the region. Instead, NATO immediately took advantage of the dissolution of the warsaw pact to keep expanding eastward, and even when Russians were trying to integrate with the west and lick western boot during the Yeltsin and early Putin years, they were spat upon. Russia tried to join NATO and totally integrate with the west, but was still treated as an outsider. From that moment onward the war was basically inevitable. What you need to keep in mind is that all the material conditions that made this war possible were created in 1991, and all the conditions that made this war inevitable were created by 2014, but arguably earlier.
>>2501248>Russia and Chinacame to /usapol/ to bitch about America's enemies again award
>The majority of western countries where people protest don't sell weapons to Israeljust making shit up award
>>2501222it's just someone trolling* but put it in your Q predictions folder if you find it that impressive.
one thing that twitter "psychics" do is that they make a bunch of random predictions, hide the posts, and then unhide them when they become true. Pic related.
>>2501290competency crisis strikes again
they look like british bobbies prancing around like that
>>2501268foreign policy realists understand what "Escalation dominance" is. The US and its allies has escalation dominance in most conflicts. It can escalate without seeming like it is doing so on a propaganda level. It will kill you with death by 1000 cuts, and if you dare to fight back during that torturous process, it will try to cut off your head in 1 cut. You say they should have sat there and taken it until it was too late, and that not doing so was "walking into a trap." The truth is there were traps in every direction they could have stepped.
this machiavellian and social darwinist logic would exonerate for example a cop who provokes a mentally retarded person into overreacting and then kill them in fake "self defense"
But let's think of a less silly example. Would you also say that, for example, hamas attacked first on Oct 7th? This is the same narrative you are using with Russia Ukraine. You ignore years of western provocation in the buildup, and then use the Feb 2022 "finally fighting back for once" flashpoint as a "they started it" the same way Israelis point to Oct 7th 2023. Always we see the same pattern. The West and its allies are allowed to provoke endlessly because they have escalation dominance, and whenever anyone fights back it's either an "atrocity" or "starting it" or "walking into a trap."
Nobody but the party with escalation dominance is allowed to do anything by this logic!
>>2500853I've been thinking about this clip. Trump is such an asshole. Anyone who has been to a protest/rally would know that because possible deficencies in sound quality or intensity, people might not understand what is being said by the speaker. This creates anxiety in people and pushes them to just go along with whatever the crowd does, especially when people trust what the leader is saying. If the crowd claps, they clap too, if it boos, they boo too. It's totally possible that people will misunderstand what Trump is saying and cheer, or their NPC brain freezes and there comes the awkward silence. Trump is there testing them like
>well folks, what do we think about israel?>WE LOVE ISRAEL!!!!>ok, good… till next time, be on your best behaviourHe flexing that he can say whatever he wants and get away with it.
>>2501342bro everyone can read and everyone can see that you started the conversation with an oversimplified narrative that the Russo-Ukrainian war was started by the Russian state, a narrative that had zero historical, material, or class analysis in it. You were then given a much superior analysis and then at every step you refused to read, nitpicked little things and used them as an excuse to ignore everything else, and now you are declaring "umm actually i was the one doing the real marxist class analysis all along"
get real dude. anyone can scroll up and see what you're doing at every step of this.
>>2501273He’s tolerable.
Most e-celebs are incredibly annoying and grating for me to watch like Mr. Beast.
Also I like that he jumps over cars.
>>2501430> vague idpol stuff that has nothing to do with communist buHoly ESL
Imagine defending this shit because "it doesn't have to do with communist"
>>2501432the fuck is your problem with ESL?
I keep seeing people here bitching about imperfect English
>>2500916I think it's a combination of the United States having a lot of ability to withstand these sorts of things because of how much power it has and that these things also take time to really set in, although I think that the amount of geopolitical influence and economic influence the US has can only offset and slow down systemic decay if there isn't leadership that has some kind of plan that doesn't involve fucking things up even worse. not only are there many scandals and an acceleration of systemic rot that had already been been put in motion as far back as the Nixon administration, but there are also economic crises unlike anything we've ever seen before brewing under the surface that the current admin has to manage putting off as long as it possibly can while also juggling all the other bullshit that it's gotten itself into. the whole economic model of the US (which is quickly revealing to have never made sense beyond being pure imperialism through dollarization) was already basically to kick the can down the road as long as possible before these retards got into office.
there's this thing called cascading system failure where one component of a system failing that other components of the system relies on cause them to also fail, and so on until everything rapidly collapses, and I think we are in many ways in the early stages of this when it hasn't yet become very visible. all we need is for one of the several gigantic bubbles to burst in the monopoly money casino that the US economy is and the empire will get thrown into a death spiral real fucking quickly.
>>2501439Trump isn't the only one running his account
Or he's so senile he forgot me posted it
>>2501507funfact:
that's bessent.
it's a message from the agriculture secretary, brook rollings.
she's fuming that Argentinians are doing that, despite the bail out to keep milei in power.
>>2501430Imperialism against third world comrades, including the genocide against Palestinian comrades, is relevant to class struggle.
Discrimination against marginalized comrades is relevant to class struggle.
CIA coups and destabiization of enemy governments, including non-communists governments we don't care for, is relevant to class struggle.
Pretending these things are merely "idpol" and has "nothing to do with communism" is the real idpol, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
>>2501535I looked it up. Federal shutdowns happened: 1980, 1981, 1984, 1986, 1990, 1995, 1996, 2013, 2018, 2019
Not altogether unheard of, but not as frequent as you are making them out to be.
>>2501521basically agent orange and satanyahu agreed to level Gaza under the pretext of destroying Hamas. Promised a bunch of stuff, that, similar to the Oslo accord that they didn't fulfill, they won't fulfill, with total complicity of the Arabs states.
this is a summary of the points offered:
Key provisions:
>Immediate 72-hour hostage release & prisoner exchange
>Complete Hamas disarmament and exclusion from governance
>International Stabilization Force deployment
>"Board of Peace" oversight body chaired by Trump
>Pathway to Palestinian statehood after PA reformsSecurity Framework:
>Gaza demilitarization under international monitors
>Regional security guarantees
>Gradual IDF withdrawal linked to security milestones
>Palestinian police training programEconomic vision:
>Massive reconstruction initiative
>Special economic zone with preferential tariffs
>Technocratic transitional governance
>Encouragement for residents to remain in Gazawar criminal tony blair is set to be the authority to oversee this.
>>2501555FACT: 90% of the "pro-Palestine" crowd will begrudgingly accept these terms and resume voting for the same genociders. They will denounce "the violence" and "Hamas" and go to liberal Zionists like Owen Jones for self-absolution.
Then they will back the followup NATO campaign on Yemen/Iran and completely forget about Zionism/Israel in less than a year.
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>>2501066I feel like you're being deliberately obtuse by implying Israel and Hollywood aren't ideologically and financially the same. You don't get a position of creative control in Hollywood without being a Zionist, and I think you know that.
Also no idea where you're getting the Australian company thing. It was entirely funded by Israel and its American partners. Every single actor is Israeli. Every producer is either Israeli or an American Jew. The production company is Israeli. The main producer of the film is this guy.
I don't really care about a stupid propaganda show that isn't even being broadcast on American television, but at least be honest.
>>2501668>your failed ideology can't even drive which is why i promise to slash your tires and pour sugar in your gas tank if the people like you too muchNow Zohran Mamdani isn't a communist, but it's interesting that they'll admit that they need to sabotage something if it gets off the ground in the same breath that they declare it "always fails."
Also the ahistorical declaration that Communism is thousands of years old is just fascinating.
>>2501675>>2501677i paid for the fucking ed zitron article, but he presents a compelling timeline, Jon Sakoda says it'll take 6 quarters before funding dries out so roughly early 2027, really depends on nvidia reporting deceleration. I dont even know when they're supposed to report to stakeholders since trump made it so that companies dont need to report on a quarterly basis, prolonging the bubble like three months at least
>I feel like people are already getting sick of it.boohoo, have you seen the billboards anthropic is putting out? the end consumer is irrelevant, theyre aimed at VCs and dumbass retail investors who are extremely high on their own supply
>>2501689He looks 30 now.
Bro is ageing like milk
>>2501720Poverty kept fanatical Christianity alive ( especially in pooer regions) and wealthier classes used mass media to amplify religion at different moments, through radio , and televanglism.
Many immigrants also come from more peripheral countries that are very religious compared to the 1st world (Africa, Latin America, Philippines).
Even then areligion is the fastest growing religion
>>2501679look at the bright side.
the memes, man,
the memes.
>>2501687keeping in mind that right now what moves a huge part of the
US market cap is graphic cards (NVidia, Intel, Qualcomm, AMD), the boombust will be HU-GE.
>>2501720>Americans, why exactly are you all so religious compared to any other westernised society?The explanation that makes sense to me is the lack of an established state/church nexus compared to much of Europe, which meant that the kind of anticlerical tradition – that veered into secular republicanism if not outright atheism in the 19th century – which arose in response to it there didn't develop here. American secularism developed at the outset to prevent any one of various schismatic Protestant churches from dominating and oppressing the others. But I think religion here was more participatory and varied and bottom-up compared to it being imposed from the top down.
In Europe there was, basically, the Catholic Church existing as a reactionary institution of the ancien regime, and so when the opposition to it was happening in Europe at a time of rapid and excruciating social change, those same tendencies that were occurring in the U.S. worked their way
through Protestant "awakening" movements instead. Like aaaugh god this is so alienating FUCK and then people start gathering from miles around to listen to some preacher and they start handling snakes and dunking each other in rivers. Abolitionists in the U.S. in the 19th century for example were often religious and John Brown was a devoutly religious evangelical Christian. So they were religious progressives.
That's the historical background anyways. But the 21st century has really seen a rise in the non-religious.
>Why is that? Were you also raised religious yourself?I was actually raised by atheists but my sense is that it was fairly unusual in my area. And by the standards of my extended family we were pretty weird and unorthodox.
>>2500871>>2500890>>2501030>Anti-Free Speech>Pro DisneyThey're just using old "
culture war" talking points that was copy and paste on social media and YouTube (now in reverse).
None of these niigs even believe in their own shit
>>2501743>>2501772The tragic reality of the Material conditions of the U$ is that it is a highly diverse Settler-Colonial society with a White settler Labor Aristocracy/Petit Bourgeois/Lumpen majority, that intrinsically views any Left-wing economic policies (especially Communism) as handouts to the Internal Colonies/Oppressed Nations (ie. New Afrika, Aztlan, the First Nations, etc.) that they despise and want to keep in chains for eternity, has an extremely “Individualist” culture built on pure greed that doesn’t just infect the White Settler population, but also most Immigrants who come to the U$ exclusively to embrace the Petit Bourgeois “American Dream” (especially infamous Anti-Communist “Gusano” populations like the Miami Cubans and other Right-wing White Hispanics, Vietnamese, Koreans, the Falun Gong/Kuomintang “Taiwan”/ROC Chinese, High-Caste Indian Brahmins, Zionist Jews, GCC Arabs, etc.), combined with the additional fact that around half of the U$ population (A majority of White Settlers, and a large minority of Hispanics/Chicanos/Mestizos) are Christian fundamentalists who believe the earth is 6000 years old and “Flat”, that women should be Kitchen Slaves/Baby factories, that the LGBTQIA+ should be thrown in Concentration Camps (or possibly executed as the “Holy Bible” advises), that the U$ should fight Genocidal Wars for the Zionist State to rebuild their Temple so they can all get “raptured”, and that any Left-wing economic policies to help the poor (ie. Any Taxes on the wealthy/corporations and any Social Safety Net for the poor), are a “Satanic” Communist plot, as the “Holy Bible” says the proles should just be loyal bootlickers of the bourgeois so they can earn their place in “Heaven” (sadly almost half of the U$ Proletariat believes this crap as proven by election results and sociological surveys), so with all of these tragic facts in consideration, it is a pure idealistic Anti-Materialist fantasy, to expect a United Class Conscious U$ Proletariat, like what can be achieved in almost every other normal country (not just the Periphery/Semi-Periphery where Maoist PPW is viable, but even in other Imperial Core countries where the Proles are at least Class Conscious enough to support Social Democracy), so the only praxis that can be taken here is to prioritize the National Liberation of the Internal Colonies/Oppressed Nations of New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations, while patiently waiting for the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China, which will escalate into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are pictured in the Map I reposted above) to Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2501844No, but the AI bubble might.
>Go to Youtube, every video thumbnail is an AI generated image with AI voice narration and often even an AI generated script>Go to Google, DDG, Bing, or Yandex, every search result is AI, every image is AI, and there's an AI on the top and right side of the screen feeding you disinformation>Go to any forum or imageboard, half the posts are AI spam, many of the images are AI instead of organic memes, etc>Go to my favorite hentai site to jack off, half the images are AI, the actual new content that isn't AI is dropping every day as artists abandon digital art entirely due to AIthis might be the worst the internet has ever been tbh. and there's no indication anyone is doing anything to improve things.
>>2501851the people producing AI content are not part of the doomsday cult tho, they're just opportunists trying to make money. they shouldn't care less if they make the world shittier for everyone else.
the doomsday cultists are mostly in the finance/investor side and those people have been part of every previous bubble as well. the dotcom bubble was headed by the same kinds of people, in fact many of them are the exact same people(larry ellison, peter thiel, elon musk, etc). i don't really see the AI bubble being different, the people responsible are 99% greedy nihilists and 1% doomsday cult.
>>2501848Dude, if you've read
>>2501698 then you'd have to recognize that the text was written by Chat GPT, it constantly uses — instead of commas, plus it uses alot of sub-headers and table of contents.
>>2501860At this point I'm more likely to believe this post is AI than the pdf. The em dash thing is so widespread now that AI's are spamming it in comment sections any time an article uses them.
Fuck my miserable existence why did I have to be born in this era of humanity??
>>2501851This, Comrade, he may have been a bit of a “schizo” (ie. His views on Vaccines, Climate Change, Lysenkoism, etc.), but Eugene was right that the International Zionist Haute Bourgeoise wants to use the 4th Industrial Revolution making most of the Proles redundant through Automation (ie. AI, E-Commerce, Autonomous Vehicles, etc.), in combination with the creation of a Global Christian Zionist Nationalist Fascist Theocratic MAGAtard 1000 year Burgereich after they use the “Insurrection Act” to declare Martial Law in the U$ and make Trump President for Life and launch World War III against China, to exterminate all of the Workers and Oppressed nations of the World, in order to create their High-Tech Eternal Transhumanist Eugenist Utopia where they will attempt to achieve “Immortality” by merging themselves with Machines and downloading their Consciousness into a “AI” Supercomputer (ie. Transhumanism), with the only thing that can stop this being the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China, which will escalate into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System (the International Zionist Haute Bourgeoise think that their High-tech Bunkers will allow them to use the Global Nuclear War to help create their demented Eternal High-Tech Transhumanist Eugenist Utopia, but in reality this will backfire on them spectacularly), thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are pictured in the Map I reposted at
>>2501845 ) to Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
Alright, listen up you terminally online autists, because some of you are really not getting it. It’s pathetic.
You’re all huddled on your containment board, endlessly debating the nuances of the falling rate of profit and whether Stalin did nothing wrong for the ten-thousandth time. You’re writing another insipid screed about how "real praxis" is arguing with liberals on Twitter. You’re LARPing as revolutionaries from your squalid rentoid apartments, deconstructing the semiotics of a wojak meme while the entire material reality is shifting under your feet. It’s delusion. It’s giving… broke.
Meanwhile. While you were busy purity testing each other into oblivion, the chuds you love to mock were actually doing something. They weren’t re-reading some dusty German theory; they were buying Bitcoin.
While you were typing out another essay on why cryptocurrency is a petit-bourgeois fantasy, the chuds just created a new value system outside of the one you claim to hate. They ran the nodes. They stacked the sats. They held through every crash while you were crying about your DoorDash gig. They were building a decentralized, sovereign treasury from their mom's basements.
And now. That 22-year-old chud you called a reactionary just paid for a house in cash. That suburban dad with the Punisher skull on his truck has a digital wallet that could buy your entire bloodline. They literally shitposted their way into generational wealth. They manifested it. They understood structure, discipline, long-term rewards, and the slow, brutal grind of time.
So you can stay mad. You can keep screeching about dialectics and historical materialism. Keep posting cringe. The chuds are laughing at you from their Lambos. They’re unseasoned, they have no taste, and their politics are a mess, but they have the COIN. They saw the future, and you were too busy trying to prove you were the realest leftist.
It’s pathetic.
>>2501870A lot of managerial types I knew from college/work love making lists for some goddamned reason.
> multipage long characteristicsI have no idea what you mean by this.
You also mentioned ToCs as being AI, it's obviously generated by whatever CMS or thing they use to post on their site. And having sub-headings? Lol, AI didn't invent that shit.
>>2501879>>2501880Not a single human on this planet has written a five page introduction without using long dashes as punctuation, sub-header spam, leader spam and headlining spam and then suddenly decides to do all of that, which are coincidentally formatting quirks Chat GPT
loves, for the next 50 pages.
>>2501854the AI boom has happened exactly due to the dotcom bubble, the dotcom bubble basically ensured that the tech industry would be forced to be political (this isn't to say it was not political at all, but that largely it stood on the sidelines beforehand), peter thiel for example would never have gained as much power as he has had the dotcom bubble never happened, it made the perfect condition for the tech industry to become explicitly ideological, and thus explicitly endorse the doomsday cult it's become today, and to answer your first part, it doesn't really matter if a hypothetical 99% were standard opportunists whereas only 1% of them are doomsday cultists, as those 1% have disproportionate influence over what those opportunists hold
>>2501866i sort of agree with you, albeit i would say their goal isn't so much to replace proles, but to create a new society from their doomsday event (the singularity), artificial superintelligence is their christ to bring the apocalypse
>>2501949>crypto currency has intrinsic valuelel
<It's still just commodity production and socially necessary labor time. That's why crypto is even exchangeable with commodities in the first place.how much SNLT goes into a dollar bill?
>>2501954so crypto has no value then?
>>25019531 USD = 100 USD in SNLT
so what makes one note more valuable than the other?
>>2501960>cant answer simple baby questionssad
>>2501962does BTC have value?
>>2501955crypto is a commodity whose price is closely tied to its value. doubly so because there's no monopoly in place
one might object that this can't possibly be the case because crypto is "fake". that it's just a social relation. but remember that exchange-value is also a use-value (vol III). you can't say that its value is just "made up" because 1) that's the entire point of value to begin with 2) that amounts to pushing subjectivism
crypto is useful, it is traded on the market and it takes labour to mine. therefore it has value. it's also fucking stupid, but that's true of a lot of things in capitalism
>>2501972I just said it has value because it's useful, people buy it and it takes labour to mine
>>2501973dollar bills have value, yes. its value happens to be far below its price due to the US mint's monopoly position. digital dollar also have value, because it takes labour to uphold the entire financial transaction system. here it is a little different because the value can't be prorated according to the amount of dollars being transacted - it costs about the same to transfer $1 as it does to transfer $1,000,000,000,000. this isn't so different from a $1 bill and a $100 bill having the same value, because it takes the same amount of labour to print either one, even if their prices differ
>>2501982>it has value because its useful, people buy ityes
<and it takes labour to mineif ots a commodity made for sale in a capitalist market, then who is exploited in the production of BTC and who extracts surplus value?
>dollar bills have value, yeswhat determines their value?
>its value happens to be far below its price due to the US mint's monopoly positionUSD doesnt possess a price, it sets prices. when you see something in a store worth $5, that is the price of the good.
>this isn't so different from a $1 bill and a $100 bill having the same value, because it takes the same amount of labour to print either one, even if their prices differso 1 USD and 1,000,000 USD have the same value? if i have $1,000,000 i am not materially wealthier than a guy who has $1?
>>2501989>then who is exploited in the production of BTC and who extracts surplus value?the employees at the power companies, at the chip fabs, at the mining companies etc
>what determines their value?the amount of SNLT embodied in them
>USD doesnt possess a price, it sets pricesno it doesn't. the mint is in no position to set prices - that's done by porkies in distribution, and porkies charging other porkies for their goods. the price of $1 USD is $1 USD. there is nothing the mint can do to change that
>so 1 USD and 1,000,000 USD have the same value?in the form of an account stored on your bank's computers, yes. if we're talking about bills then there's no $1,000,000 bill. the largest bill printed in the US is the $100 one. assuming they cost about the same to print, then the $1,000,000 is worth 10,000x the $1. unless of course they're all $1 bills in which case the $1,000,000 is indeed worth $1,000,000 than the $1
>if i have $1,000,000 i am not materially wealthier than a guy who has $1?you're confusing value and price. bank notes have very little value, but they still fetch a high price. the price stamped on them entitles you to fetch goods and services for that price. but again the digital accounts or the bills themselves have very little value in and of themselves
it's very different with BTC and gold. here value and the price of the money itself is tightly linked. that doesn't mean that they're exactly the same of course - just look at the gold price and the BTC price
personally I believe gold is currently overpriced by a factor of ~5x. that is, that its value is really ~$20/g, because of the crustal ratio between gold and silver, assuming silver is not overpriced
>>2502005>the employees at the power companies, at the chip fabs, at the mining companies etcso if i possess BTC and sell them, i am circulating surplus value?
>the amount of SNLT embodied in themhow much SNLT is in a dollar bill?
>USD doesnt set pricesall prices are set in currency. youre being contradictory.
>the $1,000,000 is indeed worth $1,000,000 than the $1if they have the same value, then how is one worth more than the other?
>bank notes have very little value, but they still fetch a high pricewho sets the price for dollars?
>>2502031>so if i possess BTC and sell them, i am circulating surplus value?surplus value is surplus product. surplus value isn't contained in the product itself (except land rent). read Capital. an owner-operator that runs a mining rig isn't creating surplus value, even if he's self-exploiting, because all the value goes to himself. whereas someone who employs workers to run a bunch of miners
does extract a surplus from them, assuming the company doesn't go bankrupt
>how much SNLT is in a dollar bill?how should I know? it's certainly less than a dollar. let's say one cent's worth of labour
>all prices are set in currency. youre being contradictory.you're going to have to be more specific. a dollar is a dollar. a dollar might fetch fewer labour hours as a result of inflation, but said inflation is due to Porky jacking up prices
>if they have the same value, then how is one worth more than the other?value and price are not the same thing. a dollar can carry value in the same way a bowl can carry soup. the value of the soup isn't part of the value of the bowl
>who sets the price for dollars?this is a nonsensical question. prices are expressed in dollars. this is like asking who sets the time for seconds
>>2502031surplus value only has relevance in the sphere of production.
currency is the measure of value regardless of how much value is in the currency itself. you're asking why 10 inches is longer than 1 inch.
>>2502071This cunt really just invited everyone to listen to his TED Talk.
Do you think they're going to do Venezuela talk behind the scenes?
It's too absurd to believe this was all this was for, but also it's americans. i'm so conflicted.
>>2501982>I just said it has value because it's useful,But it's use is completely arbitrarily dependent. It's not backed by any major group or country. Any fad or collectible can have use value as money because people have arbitrarily decided to give it value, see shells, marbles, trading cards, whatever. But as with all fads, people can arbitrarily take away the value. For crypto examples see:
>EVERY SINGLE OTHER CRYPTO COINBitcoin guys are like:
<hehh, well at least we haven't gotten rugpulled on bitcoin yet! >>2502078fuck knows mate i listened to the whole thing and don't really understand what the point was.
I can only assume they're going to be talking in the background about more substantial stuff.
>>2502083>>2502084The mining and whatever work goes into the crypto has almost nothing to with the price of the crypto. It's completely arbitrary. It's like saying the work involved with making a Labubu is what makes that shitty 2 dollar toy worth like 20, 30, 50 bucks or whatever.
And I'm not discussing if it is a good investment at X, Y, Z point in time. Nvidia and FANG might be a good investment still. Doesn't mean they're not overpriced as fuck. It's a little less fictious than bitcoin, owning stock in a trillion dollar company, and it's still fictitious as fuck.
>>2502049>surplus value is surplus productso to make a profit, the creators of BTC must sell this surplus which then circulates between purchasers, right? without allowing for the circulation of surplus, hpw could there be profit?
>an owner-operator that runs a mining rig isn't creating surplus valueso self-employed people cant make profits?
>whereas someone who employs workers to run a bunch of miners does extract a surplus from them, assuming the company doesn't go bankruptand how many of these companies are behind BTC?
>how should I knowyoure the one insisting that USD is a commodity which possesses value
>inflation is due to Porky jacking up pricesso if the government price-fixed all commodities in a market, there would be stability forever?
>value and price are not the same thingyou havent explained the difference. this is what youve said so far. 1 USD has the same value as 1,000,000 USD but $1,000,000 is worth 1,000,000x more than $1. its entirely contradictory.
>this is a nonsensical questionhow? if 1 USD and 1,000,000 USD have the same value, then who or what decides their different prices? why is one piece of paper worth more than another?
>>2502093>how? if 1 USD and 1,000,000 USD have the same value, then who or what decides their different prices? why is one piece of paper worth more than another?A dollar is a legal contract. Like if I write you a check for one dollar, or I write four zeros behind it. The difference is whether you can redeem that piece of paper for the number I write on it. If my check is bad, the piece of the paper is the same no matter what I write on it. If I sign a contract to pay someone $100 on some day, the value of that contract is determined by if there are the legal mechanisms which will force me to pay that $100. The legal contract itself doesn't intrinsically have value, the enforcement mechanisms do.
Another way to think of money is kind of like owning stock in a company, but in this case the company is the United States Government, and all the capital and workers they have control over.
>>2502097if i have $2 i am twice as rich as a guy with $1
thats my approach to it.
>>2502101so the value of a dollar isnt in the dollar itself but how governments set the price? (a point ive repeated constantly)
>>2502102>so the value of a dollar isnt in the dollar itself but how governments set the price? (a point ive repeated constantly)Like I said. The value in a share of stock is the the value of the percent ownership you get out of thing it represents.
I think maybe also confusing people is that ownership is an abstract legal concept that really has no basis other than you believe there are legal mechanisms that will respect and enforce your ownership. If you have a piece of paper that says you own this corner store. If the people running the store don't give you the profits, then what is your ownership worth? Your ownership only has value through the legal system that defines and enforces your ownership.
When you have dollars, like a share, you have part ownership of the entire US economy and government, and etc.
>>2502083>But it's use is completely arbitrarily dependentso? Capital doesn't care
why something is useful. only that it is, and that someone is willing to pay for it. in gommunism we'd probably ban crypto
>But as with all fads, people can arbitrarily take away the valuethis is true of literally every commodity. if no one wants potatoes any more then potatoes become worthless. the absurdity of crypto is but a mirror of the absurdity of capitalism
>>2502092>The mining and whatever work goes into the crypto has almost nothing to with the price of the crypto. It's completely arbitrary. It's like saying the work involved with making a Labubu is what makes that shitty 2 dollar toy worth like 20, 30, 50 bucks or whatever.no it's not. Labubus cost a lot more than their value because there is a monopoly on them. this is much the same as dollars being priced far above their value, because only the US mint can legally print them. by contrast, anyone can mine crypto and gold
>>2502093>so to make a profit, the creators of BTC must sell this surplus which then circulates between purchasers, right? without allowing for the circulation of surplus, hpw could there be profit?please read Capital
>so self-employed people cant make profits?correct. only the bourgeoisie makes profit. landlords make rent. the working class makes wages. Marx doesn't theorize on the self-employed because [Here the manuscript breaks off.], but their income would likely count as a fourth kind of revenue. it is similar with peasants. a peasant doesn't make profit - the revenue earned by selling produce goes to supporting him and his family. it is not profit, by definition. only Porky makes profit
>and how many of these companies are behind BTC?what do you mean exactly? BTC as in Bitcoin Core, the software most often used? it's developed by volunteers. do you mean the network? the miners? the exchanges?
>youre the one insisting that USD is a commodity which possesses valueyeah, because you can buy and sell dollars. I can use euros to buy dollars for example. that makes dollars a commodity, by definition
>so if the government price-fixed all commodities in a market, there would be stability forever?no, because markets are inherently unstable. to have stability you must plan the economy
>you havent explained the differenceread. Capital.
>how? if 1 USD and 1,000,000 USD have the same value, then who or what decides their different prices?ultimately, Congress does
>why is one piece of paper worth more than another?they're not. again, value and prices are not the same. the value of a $1 paper bill is likely the same as a $100 paper bill, assuming sufficiently similar production methods, similar sizes etc (which is the case in the US because the mint hates blind people)
>>2502109I wonder if you asked people about leftwing positions
Specifically like public college single payer health care, cutting military spending, maybe some environmentalist stuff, if you would get a more favorable answer.
There has been this narrative that everything was fine until both sides got too extreme and stopped being civil, this is clearly bullshit but most people don't know yet
>>2502139>Canadians seem to think otherwiseIt does not matter what Canadians think
>kill tens of thousands of Canadians to temporarily pacifysmall price to pay for the defence and consolidation of our rules-based democratic system
>you should enlist now I'm already in the army, unlike you Russian shills
>>2502128>so? Capital doesn't care why something is useful. only that it is, and that someone is willing to pay for it. in gommunism we'd probably ban cryptoI'm saying it's a high risk investment with much less guarantees than investing in stuff guaranteed by the big bad government, but you guys are convinced its the opposite. It's not really all that useful. The transaction costs are huge, theirs a lot of problems with trying to use it as money, and that people will continue to accept it as such is highly doubtful as compared to like dollars. It's mostly a pyramid scheme dude.
>no it's not. Labubus cost a lot more than their value because there is a monopoly on them. this is much the same as dollars being priced far above their value, because only the US mint can legally print them. by contrast, anyone can mine crypto and goldThe value of the Labubu is the IP, the brand recognition. I'm not super big into crypto, but this is my perception. If you took the exact same mechanisms behind bitcoin, just duplicated it, and called it "bitcoin 2" how much would it be worth? All that mining and the ledger and the cryptography and whatever work and hypothetical value seem to have little to nothing to do with the price.
>>2502106>having $2 isnt twice as much as $1>>2502107so to you, nothing has value unless the government says it does?
>>2502128>self-employed people CANT make profits<profit didnt exist before capitalismno comment.
>what do you mean exactly?your claim is that BTC is a capitalist commodity that exists to create profits for business owners, so im curious about logistics.
>because you can buy and sell dollars.>I can use euros to buy dollars for examplewhat sets the exchange ratio between currency?
>$1,000,000 is not worth more than $1more incoherence.
>>2502161>no, but yesso, yes then?
if we didnt have governments we couldnt have commodity exchange?
>>2502162>if we didnt have governments we couldnt have commodity exchange?What does it matter what you could hypothetically do if you were two guys that lived on a desert island with no outside contact. It's not relevant to the world you live in. Even in that scenario I'd say you basically have a government or legal system. If you are going to have a voluntary transaction, you both have to agree to respect each others ownership, agree to rules of the exchange, etc.
But we live in the real modern world with already established governments on every square inch of Earth, so your right of ownership and exchange is completely defined by one of those governments.
>>2502171so yes, then
theres no such thing as economies without government - and further, governments create the values of commodities. good to know.
>>2502187If a millionaire fails to exchange their million then yeah it's a guy walking around with a bunch of paper in their pocket.
Can you manifest water in the desert by casting a ritual with gold?
>>2502193>Bruh I've made like a dozen posts you haven't replied tolink them.
>You can't have exchange and prices without the first principle of ownershipand if the government went away for a single day, the entire world would descend into caveman times because there is no longer ownership, right?
>>2502216yes it is.
a guy with a billion dollars in his bank account is the same as a guy with no money in his bank account.
>>2502220i have $2
you have $1
who is richer?
>>2502178you spoke to quickly
THAT is a master baiter –→>>2502219
>>2502247here's a question for all the scholars on leftypol:
(X) has $1
(Y) has $2
who is richer? (X) or (Y)?
>>2502187>>2502215>>2502219What they're saying is that money's value is in it's ability to be exchanged with goods.
If you never exchange the money, then you'd be like a homelessman who has no money to exchange.
Of course in the real world, this never happens, people atleast will exchange their money for their basic needs, and the yearly debts/taxes they have to deal with.
To put it in another way: if you never use it, it'd be like burning it, since it's not being circulated back into the economy.
>>2502253youre literally typing more to me 🤣🤣
fell fir it again award 💀
>>2502259keep giving me (you)s, professor
(and youre definitely not mad btw)
>>2502255what is a greater quantity? 2 or 1?
>>2502260yep
>>2502265i thought you werent falling for my bait?
why do you keep replying? 🤔
>>2502266its your choice to be entertained by me 😛
log off if you dont like it
>>2502264The question isn't quantity, it's usage.
If you're a vegan trapped in a meat store, and you choose to starve yourself to death, that isn't because there was nothing to substantiate yourself, it's just that you weren't using it.
>>2502277quantity is surely a prerequisite of usage, no?
>>2502278okay - so $2 is more than $1
having more money = being richer
being richer = possessing more wealth
>>2502280BROOO🤣🤣😭😭
your claim to fame is literally a long-winded blogpost. wym you type less? 💀 why you keep replying anyway? im bored of you.
>>2502281fr fr no cap lil bro
more skull emojis please
im fascinated by GenZ retardation
>>2502279But that's not what the hypothetical was.
The hypothetical was a mythical millionaire that never uses their money, so they'd live like someone who doesn't have millions of dollars.
It's not as comparable, but think of Frank from Always Sunny, he's loaded but lives in squalor since he doesn't want to use his fortune.
(Of course in this example, he always has ability to stop, which this hypothetical isn't accounting for)
>>2502289bro ur literally a namefag 💀
stfu lil bro
>>2502301mods are coin flippers
sometimes the cringe disappears
sometimes it is archived for eternity
>>2502300yes, namefaggots are cringe
what is this boomer reverse own attempt? 🤔
>>2502112>Crypto has 0 utilityI can buy drugs on darknet markets with it
>>2502154>I'm saying it's a high risk investment with much less guarantees than investing in stuff guaranteed by the big bad government, but you guys are convinced its the oppositeI'm not saying that at all. you only need to look at the wild swings in the price of crypto to see that it's not a very stable investment. what I'm saying is that despite this crypto still has value, because it takes labour to mine it. the bits themselves have value because of this
>>2502154>The value of the Labubu is the IP, the brand recognitionthat's not what value means in Marxian terms
>>2502156>THE VALUE IS THE UNDERLYING ASSETS!then you're talking about the asset, not the paper itself. I've already made this argument with my soup analogy
>>2502158>>self-employed people CANT make profits><profit didnt exist before capitalism>no commentif you want to use different terminology from what Marx uses, be my guest. but these are the terms Marx uses. profit is specifically that part of the revenues that comes from bourgeois property rights. it is distinct from wages and rent. again, revenue and profit are not the same thing
>your claim is that BTC is a capitalist commodity that exists to create profits for business owners, so im curious about logisticsyou can look up the inner workings of crypto miners if you like. it boils down to labour though, like all things
>what sets the exchange ratio between currency?many things
>>2502344labubu based economy
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