I think people underestimate the USA. I think the USA would lose in a normal war against the PRC. But the USA doesn't play fair. I think the USA would pull every dirty trick in the book and only escalate to open warfare when the PRC is already destabilized. I believe that USA would definitely use chemical and biological weapons. The ground would be prepared with drugs, crime, fascist pedo-cults, schizo-spree killers, heightened ethnic conflict, mass protests and labor strikes. The next step would be escalation into sanctions, lawfare, plagues and mass poisonings. Then a proxy war in Xinjiang, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea. The USA would only actually step in when the PRC is already half-dead.
The USA is currently overdosing on its own hype
>The ground would be prepared with drugs, crime, fascist pedo-cults, schizo-spree killers, heightened ethnic conflict, mass protests and labor strikes.
>sanctions, lawfare, plagues and mass poisonings.
the US is inflicting half this shit upon themselves
>>2503383At least two decades of psyops starting with 9/11 are coming to fruition.
>>2503390This is correct. The USA experiments with chemical and biological weapons on its own population. It did the same with MK Ultra shit and probably does more.
I might be too paranoid. But I do think that the USA would pull the worst sort of Operation Gladio and color revolution bullshit. I really do think conventional warfare underestimates the USA. The USA would totally pull real nasty sicko Nazi shit like grooming kids over the internet to sabotage military bases.
>>2503399>I might be too paranoid.I just think youre dumb, the russian-ukraine conflict has grown existential precisely because it demonstrates that the soft-power arsenal the US has is of limited use, if at all. Simply put sanctions didnt work in Russia. Add to this the fact that the US has elected a retard whose protectionist slant has allowed the entirety of SEA to steadily orbit towards China and away from the US, and also made China weening itself away from the US an urgent priority. The influence the US has in China diminishes daily, and with it their ability to do… any of the stupid shit you mentioned.
tl;dr the US only gets to play dirty due to their position of "exorbitant privilege" which Trump is deadset on ending due to his personal incoherent vision of international politics
>But the USA doesn't play fair.
Name one (1) country that does.
>proxies
Of course. IIRC a US spokesperson was bragging that (back then, years after the outbreak of the Ukr/RF conflict) that they hadn't lost a single US soldier. It's their well-established playbook.
We should talk about it, but come on comrade, don't pretend we're idiots.
There is no US-China war, it's a psyop to fool other nations into thinking the two superpowers will fight and harm each other, so they are fooled into thinking they can grow stronger while these two are diminished.
Just look at the recent Tiktok deal, or the fact that the US has less tarrifs on China than it's "allies". Theyrve carving up a G2 instead. China takes Taiwan, US takes Canada and Greenland.
>>2503399The problem with your idea is that China has much more surveillance and internet control than the US does and their glowies put a lot more effort than US glowies into exterminating cults. The US is far more susceptible to this than China is. If anything, it's Chinese and Russian internet bot farms/agents who could stir up something like this in the US, (although they would have a far lesser impact than what you're saying, the results would be a handful of attacks, protests or strikes and more of an annoyance to the US).
>>2503399historically sicko shit afflicts countries on the downturn far, far more than countries on the upswing. And it's not like you can just "dump" these things on a society overnight - nor is there a good explanation for why this hasn't already happened.
>>2503445Their main function is giving online support for right wing parties in Western nations, such as the Republicans during the elections or the AfD. The reason for this is that a pretty much universal subject of these parties is anti-immigration. I think this is not because it aligns with Russia ideologically - the Russian government themselves is happy to accept a lot of Kazakh, Chinese, Indian, etc. migrants - but because if immigration were to be stopped, they would be cutting off what is possibly their own greatest asset, brain drain: sucking away the best talents and wealthiest people of underdeveloped nations, greatly strengthening themselves at the cost of everywhere else. And even if immigration wasn't stopped entirely, the rise of anti-immigrant sentiment would scare off potential immigrants, or at least cause division in society between the isolationists and the neoliberals.
>>2503454Forgot to mention that Russia probably also funds the AfD and other such parties in the EU. Albeit that's not the same sort of glowie work
War with chynah in two more weeks
America would get slaughtered in a conflict against China
>>2503399no man you're just an idiot
>>2503478that would still result in America getting slaughtered, China has almost 4 times more peope than America.
>>2503465This is also true, there's a lot of benefits in it for them.
>>2503478not really, ABMs are getting advanced enough to where a significant portion of them would be obliterated, even then the more likely result is a large number of dead, the USA in shambles and the world recovers in 50 years
>>2503482Also China actually has underground infrastructure to support a significant amount of its population during nuclear war built during the cold war.
>>2503488>not really, ABMs are getting advanced enough to where a significant portion of them would be obliterated, even then the more likely result is a large number of dead, the USA in shambles and the world recovers in 50 yearsBullshit. There is zero proof. There is much anti proof. Much can get past the patriot system. I think with the Oreshnik, which from my observation is a MIRV which has existed forever, but nonetheless proves that there is 0 counter to a MIRV. A MIRV is so hypersonic you wouldn't believe, and we've had them since forever. There is no way to intercept this shit, you're gonna die.
You aren't going to intercept the US warheads either.
>>25034950% Oreshnik warhead was intercepted am I right?
But that matters not, because any single payload they sent into Ukraine could've been nuclear instead of conventional. It's not hard for them to make more warheads, it's just that they all have way more than enough.l
>>2503495i'm not talking about the patriot system, i'm talking about the new, anti-ICBM systems that currently exist, they are good enough that they would be able to destroy most (ie: 80% of the missiles, minimum) on both the american and the chinese side
>>2503511brother i will be fine in that event, i live in the southern hemisphere, and also no, ballistic missiles have been shot down in tests before, if you're gonna go "oh but the oreshnik wasn't shot down by patriot missiles" then you're not understanding what i'm saying, the missiles they're using are not designed to take down missiles like that one either, but there are actual ABMs like the HQ-19 and HQ-29 (chinese ABMs) and the THAAD system for the americans, both of which have shot down ICBMs in the past
>>2503518Those systems have a 0% success rate in the field is what I'm saying. Like you said tho, it doesn't matter to you, the fallout cloud will miss you weather patterns permitting.
>>2503381The US plans to follow the strategy that worked so well in Ukraine: use a proxy (in this case Taiwan) and incrementally increase the support until the US is picking strikes on China (as is happening with the Ukraine strikes on Russia, more clearly with systems like ATACMS that require US intel and sign-off). In other words, they're banking on Xi and Chinese officials being as timid as Putin and Russian officials. They might be in for a rude awakening.
>>2503518Nuclear missiles are different. The first wave of warheads will explode in the atmosphere and the heat and radiation will make it extremely difficult to track the subsequent waves and the majority of them will get through, this is even if all the decoys accompanying them aren't included. With hundreds of warheads falling, at minimum every single city and military base will be destroyed.
>>2503404Russia-Ukraine isn't a serious war. It's a forever-war subsidy for the military-industrial complex.
>>2503441Capitalism is stabilized by destruction and destabilized by creation. It's very counterintuitive. American capitalists "win" if both America and its enemies become hellholes. It's like cancer. Cancer + cancer is just cancer. Cancer + health is cancer. Nazi + Nazi is just Nazi.
>>2503381Like the Nazis, the U.S would get a shitload of people killed and then ultimately lose. I mean if we want to crash our civilization in the style of a guy on PCP holding off his compound against the ATF. I guess it'll be fun for future generations to read about and we can be the generic bad guys for the next 80 years in every movie and video game. If even the U.S won ww3 there ain't going to be much left.
>>2504817thats one of the most stupidly wrong statement I have ever read
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