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>defeated NATO
>defeated the Soviets
>defended its sovereignty against every empire
>neither absorbed by the western deep state or the eastern deep state
>ran by the Taliban, who ars not greedy elitists, but members of everyday life who the majoroty of the people support, and even they don't have full control over the country, because other tribes run their own localities
>sent their traitors to all die in Ukraine
>you can smoke opium and weed all day and never go dry without worrying
>the women are fucking hot and fair-skinned eastern european looking
>no vax, no GMOs, no globalist garbage
>beautiful mountainous terrain
Afghanistan is anarcho-libertarian paradise.

The Aral "Sea" is a good metaphor for how Central Asia has been affected by Russia over the years. There used to be a large sea in Kazakhstan where people lived along the coast in fishing villages for hundreds of years, then the Soviet Union diverted all its rivers for their "Great Plan For The Transformation Of Nature" and now the sea and the people are all gone, it's just a lifeless dry bed of sand and rusty boat hulls now.

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>>2515486
The Aral Sea Was a Triumph of Socialist Productive Development that Re-Shaped One of the Most Historically Poor Areas in the World

Aral Sea is the 2nd dumbest fantasy pysop the west projected onto the USSR (Chernobyl is #1). Such unmitigated horseshit. These Langley narratives prove the US is still firmly under the spell of Bircher nonsense. Pagan Neo-Malthusian "nature" worship pimped by "environmentalists".

In 1960 the Aral Sea was the world’s fourth-largest inland lake, covering more than 66,000 square kilometers between the Kazakh SSR in the north and the Uzbek SSR in the south. Its two main tributaries, the Amu Darya flowing out of the Pamirs and the Syr Darya coming down from the Tian Shan, carried fresh meltwater into the basin. By the end of the decade both rivers were being diverted on a massive scale into canals such as the Karakum Canal in Turkmenistan, begun in 1954, and the Fergana Canal in Uzbekistan, expanded after 1939 and further enlarged in the 1960s. Soviet engineers, agronomists, and party officials were not ignorant of the effect this would have. As early as 1964 reports circulated within Gosplan and the Ministry of Water Management acknowledging that if diversions continued, the Aral would shrink dramatically. The decision was nonetheless made to go ahead, because the aim was not to preserve a salt basin but to transform Central Asia into a powerhouse of cotton, rice, and fodder grain production.

Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Turkmenistan had been among the poorest and least industrialized regions of the USSR in the 1920s. By the 1970s they were being described in Pravda and regional party congresses as the “cotton heart” of the Soviet economy. In 1975 Uzbekistan alone produced more than 6 million tons of raw cotton, nearly 70 percent of the entire Soviet harvest. The republic’s capital, Tashkent, rebuilt after the 1966 earthquake, became a showcase city of modern Soviet Asia, with new factories, housing complexes, and universities tied directly to the cotton and textile industries. Samarkand and Bukhara were also modernized with roads, electrification, and water supply systems financed by the irrigation economy. The Soviet leadership under Brezhnev presented this as a strategic victory: by the late 1970s the USSR was the second-largest cotton producer in the world after the United States, and Moscow no longer had to depend on imports from capitalist markets that could be manipulated during the Cold War.

The trade-off was recognized explicitly. In 1982 the Soviet Academy of Sciences published a study forecasting the bifurcation of the Aral Sea into two parts within a decade. This was not viewed as a planning failure but as an unavoidable side effect of what was seen as successful modernization. The local economy bore this out in the short term. Entire new towns like Nukus in Karakalpakstan grew around irrigated agriculture. The Karakalpak ASSR, previously one of the most impoverished corners of the USSR, hosted canning plants, cotton processing mills, and research institutes by the late 1970s. Thousands of schools and hospitals were constructed throughout Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan during this period, justified in reports to the Supreme Soviet as dividends from irrigation agriculture.

Within the ideological framework of the time, the Aral’s shrinkage was a rational choice. Centralized planners defined productivity as the transformation of natural inputs into industrial and agricultural outputs. A closed basin lake with no outlet to the ocean was considered “idle” water, in the same way that the Tennessee Valley Authority in the United States had considered wild rivers wasted energy until they were dammed. The USSR simply applied this logic more comprehensively. Water flowing into the Aral did not create surplus value, but water diverted into cotton fields fed Soviet textile combines in Ivanovo and Moscow, and supported the military sector, which required cotton for uniforms and explosives.

The ecological costs were real and visible by the 1980s. By 1987 the Aral had split into a North and South basin. Fishing ports like Aralsk in Kazakhstan and Moynaq in Uzbekistan found themselves stranded dozens of kilometers from the shore. Yet within the Soviet political system this was not treated as a catastrophe but as a managed cost. There were proposals, still discussed in 1986 at the 27th CPSU Congress, to divert Siberian rivers southward to stabilize the sea while preserving cotton output. The collapse of the USSR in 1991 ended those projects. What Western environmentalists later called a “tragedy” was in the Soviet context an unfinished development program.

Seen from this perspective, the Aral Sea was knowingly diffused by Soviet planners. It was not a blunder born of ignorance but a strategic decision to raise Central Asia out of poverty, integrate it into the all-Union economy, and secure independence from U.S.-controlled cotton markets. Between 1960 and 1990 literacy rates in Uzbekistan rose above 95 percent, life expectancy increased, and industrial employment expanded tenfold. The ecological price was high, but by the internal measures of Soviet planning—food security, industrial output, Cold War autarky—the project was a success. The collapse of the Soviet Union froze this transformation in its harshest phase, leaving behind the exposed seabed as a monument to a strategy that had been cut short. In that sense the Aral’s shrinkage should be read less as a failure of planning and more as the deliberate, if costly, choice of a state determined to transform deserts into productive land in the service of socialist development.

The payoff was immense. Central Asia, once a semi-feudal desert backwater, was pulled into the modern world by Soviet planning—Uzbekistan became the cotton heart of the USSR, with Tashkent, Samarkand, and even Nukus transformed into industrial cities tied into the all-Union economy. Schools, hospitals, roads, electrification, textile mills, food processing plants—all of this appeared in a single generation, financed by the irrigation economy. Millions of people gained literacy, jobs, and higher living standards. What the West paints as an ecological crime was in reality a calculated decision that gave the region infrastructure, industry, and independence from capitalist cotton markets, a victory that only looks like a “failure” in hindsight because the USSR itself collapsed before completing the project.

>>2515486
Yes, now multiple nations have their entire economy sustained by the water they have access to. Sorry that actual production is more in favor than your reddit lake!
By the way, the independent republics each could have closed the dams at any time before the lake actually dried up, but each closes not to because the irrigation systems are so wonderful for their economy.

>>2515513
Destroying a giant lake on purpose is even worse than doing it out of ignorance. But don't feel too bad, when the Ogallala aquifer runs dry in a few decades I'm sure the Americans will have similar excuses. India is running dry too.

>Even a whole society, a nation, or even all simultaneously existing societies taken together, are not the owners of the globe. They are only its possessors, its usufructuaries, and, like boni patres familias, they must hand it down to succeeding generations in an improved condition.

Marx, Capital Vol. III

>>2515597
Meme spouting retard.

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>western deep state or the eastern deep state
>the women are fucking hot and fair-skinned eastern european looking
>no vax, no GMOs, no globalist garbage

>>2515513

so what you're saying is there was a lake in a country full of poor people and russia came in and sucked up all the water for their own economy and now there's no lake. but think of all the vodka they made with that lake!

>>2515736
I love vodka though

>>2515465
chudcel fetishization thread

>>2515465
>defeated the Soviets
Nah fuck this. Im happy they are suffering under islamic terrorist regime as they deserve it.

>>2515736
Apparently the local economy benefited from this, not just Russia you moron

You didn't the mention Afghanistan's femboys

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>>2515776
you mean child sex slaves?

>>2515597
>>2515736
So many reddit tier retards on this site man

>>2515762
You are the imperialist monopolist westoid that the Taliban fight. At that point, soviets were momopolist imperialist social fascist. Actual Communists supported Taliban then. Actual Communists support Taliban now. Taliban outlive social fascism, Taliban outlive imperialism. You are a fascist monopolist imperialist. Long live the Taliban. swift death for you, like imperialist before you.

>>2515788
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm no

>>2515780

found the lake

>>2515762
>i don't know what operation cyclone is
>i think afghanistan brought this on themselves

>>2515607
>>2515784
maybe reeducate them with the real facts instead of just calling them reddit

because right now all I see is a narrative with no counter narrative

>>2515961
Afghanistan did "bring this upon themselves." Afghanistan fought protracted people war for their freedom against imperialist. Afghanistan is now free under Taliban and the people are most prosperous in many decades.
>>2515967
Redditors are not to be debated, but to be destroyed. If you debate redditor, they just respond like >>2515817

>>2515967
You should kill yourself.

you're pic related but with afghan feudalism


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