i haven't been keeping up. how's it looking?
glowies and ultras will both tell you that the only thing holding back the revolution is not letting the CIA win elections
they are already heavily targeted by US imperialism and are now covering their asses
There's always some shitty made-up excuse with these opportunist fucks.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
I agree with the latter and strongly disagree with the former. But especially the former is completely politically irrelevant now and I feel no sympathy for hyper-sectarian Maoist dogmatists.
Castillo is a textbook opportunist at best and a crypto-fascist LARPing as red at worst.>Inb4 "based anti-idpol"
You clowns look like people, who support hyper-reactionary social views, just to "own" the imaginary liberal crowd. The last time I checked, libs could care less about Castillo – let alone denounce his social viewssocialismSocialism
GUYS TRUST ME, THIS TIME THE SOCIAL DEMOCRAT WILL PLAY NICE WITH THE COMMUNISTS I PROMISEsendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
One wants a comfy space away from the liberals who turned fujimoristas and gets welcomed by some firstworldist glowing path.
Meh, could be worse
No shit.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Fuck it, one struggle against /leftypol/ liberalism.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
There's nothing "dogmatic" in upholding Gonzalo who like Stalin, is seen as a hero of humanity. Revolutions are violent and I support any Marxist-Leninist revolutions, "excesses" are only justified after the fact and are only called that because they failed. Nobody cares about the "excesses" in the October Revolution or Chinese revolution except for liberals.
This is the communist persecution in Vuvuzela? Some clashes with the dissident FARC? You truly are firsworldist
Fuck, this makes me miss the chavista anon>>15261
Chavismo is discredited in the broadest sense, you can't imagine the amount of "WE WILL BE VUVUZELA" shit one has to witness.
Holy hell, they even bringed Leopoldo Lopez to talk about "Chavismo is incoming!"
You're a joke. Keep coping and tailing bourgeois candidates until the seas boil over.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Dont you have some dogs to nail to signposts?
gonzaloites don't have to worry about VZ being couped or invaded because they're bourgeois, so why not let the masses die>>15261
now you care about chavismo lol
The real CIA glowies are the ones who support counter-revolutionary liberal-democratic candidates and constantly attack and barrage revolutionaries. Oh I'm laughing. What a joke /leftypol/ is.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
What’s wrong with nationalizing industry? It’s simply a higher form of monopoly. And a lot of the conflict comes from competition with private sectors but the nationalized industries can go full competition against private ones.
Anarchy of production but
But the workers are exploited by the statesendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Chairman Gonzalo is not going to fuck you no matter how hard you simp for him
>>15273>Anarchy of production but>But the workers are exploited by the state
These two are completely contradictary and I will recommend you reread Engels Socialism Utopian and Scientific
Nationalzied Industries are progressive and should be defended against neoliberalism need to privatize them
Lmao, capitalism has stopped being progressive since the last century.
For the fucking liar senderista, about the lies he's sperging against Maduro, saying he's killing communists:https://www.laiguana.tv/articulos/906893-farc-ep-deslindarse-caso-apure/
>Ejércitos de países vecinos no son objetivos militares: FARC-EP se deslinda de hechos en Apure<Armies of neighboring countries are not military objectives: FARC-EP demarcates from events in Apure>In a video (5:36 minutes) published on RRSS, Márquez appears along with other guerrillas fixing a position. He dissociated himself from the attack and recalled that for the rebel group "the armed struggle is in Colombian territory against an unjust regime that has oppressed us for 200 years." (referencing Colombia)>FARC-EP Second Marquetalia, clarified that the armies of neighboring countries are not military objectives. Iván Márquez, a regular spokesperson, read a statement and defined the events in #Apure as "unfortunate armed incidents between Colombian irregulars and the FANB in Venezuela."
The videos are in the link.
The guy is a CIA operative.chavismoChavismo
ni Maduro ni las FARC son comunistas, ambos son narcos de mierda
>>15277>calls me a glowie>posts the astroturfed samsung girl
Thinka dinka doo
>>15277>since the last century.
Make it two or three centuries.socialismSocialism
>>15280>Guys they said it was unfortunate so they're not counter-revolutionary
Basado y rojopastillado.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Oh sure, that’s why the media and every other institution literally don’t want him. Cause he’s actually supported by the feds
A gonzaloite talking about jokes. What are you doing here fella, don't you have a people's war to defrost?
Only thing getting defrosted is his frozen dinner
Who cares bahaha the majority of the media represent the comprador class, and? There are plenty that want a Castillo victory. It's like, the media condemns fascism are we to believe it isn't a bourgeois ideology either? For fuck's sake anon, use your brain.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Can mods perma-ban the glowing-path LARPer? I want to actually have a nuanced discussion about some potential flaws of Castillo without it being de-railed by a 12 year old edgelord.
Si, en tu cabeza imaginaria donde ganaste una revolución que ha resistido el asedio del imperio de los U.S.
Sobre todo que casi el 90% el tráfico de la droga que parte de colombia va por el pacífico, desde Colombia a los U.S. sin pasar por Venezuela.
Deja de chupar penes.chavismoChavismo
No, westen media is just paranoid about anything using red aesthetics.socialismSocialism
I'm behind 7 proxies.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
>>15261>The same demoralization article posted in the other thread
Since that came out Castillo reaffirmed his commitment to nationalizations and to a new constitutional referendum.sandinistaSandinista
I had no idea it was posted in the other thread, I just saw the new thread and saw it posted somewhere else and figured I'd drop it here. If that's true then that's a relief.
>>15284>Basado y rojopastillado.
Qué es entonces, comunistas o señores de la droga?
Reuters is not new to this shit: they tried to pull it even in Bolivia after the elections, hoping for Arce to do a Lenin Moreno. It failed cause he is restarting state led industrialization.sandinistaSandinista
¿La FARC? Revisonistas de mierda, han luchado por décadas sin agenda coherente.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Ah, again showing how this poster doesn't know shit about peruvian media>The media doesn't support Castillo>The media slanders him and the party as proxies from the glowing path<Who cares about the media right?>There are plenty of people wanting a Castillo victory>The countryside WILL vote in favour of him>The proletariat will vote for him<NONONO YOU MUST FOLLOW CHAIRMAN GARBANZO
For fuck sake, this is your brain on sectarianism.
If you read into the other thread there should be multiple sources for itsandinistaSandinista
Do you have some sources for that and whatever local communists think of this development?
I do hope the masses and communist parties can use Castillo as a tool to push for creating better conditions for a revolution. Maybe this can turn into Chavismo Venezuela circumstances?
When Castillo wins, we should still be advocating for more organizing and creating dual power in the government. Perhaps a push to free Guzman from prison? I dont know what demands should be included for I do not know the material problems with Peru but this could be a good start for a better movement in Latin america that represents a development and perhaps succession of Socialism in the 21st Century (which Venezuela is the only member standing in that movement even in its degraded form)
Oh god. Dude we know your a petty-booj suburbanite westerner who doesn't actually give a shit about leftism, also we can all easily see that you're a /po/yp who looked up "list of communist movements" on Wikipedia three weeks ago and picked the edgiest-sounding one. So please, kindly fuck off before you keep embarrassing yourself, and maybe do something off the internet that actually makes you happy!
Best wishes, anon.
Use your brain.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Then just link it again!socialismSocialism
Cree lo que quieras, gringo. Eres un veneno en nuestro movimiento.
Según tú Maduro estaba matando comunistas, gente de las FARC en Apure. Entonces Maduro es bueno porque mata revisionistas o simplemente vienes acá a ser un ultra porque sí?
O simplemente no tienes ni puta idea de lo que está pasando en Apure y vienes a decir que ahí hay un Rojava (tm) y que Estados Unidos debe dar apoyo a los grupos comunistas que están en Apure que no son ni Maduristas/Chavistas ni FARC?
I would kindly to use yours too insted.>>299382>nuestro
Cual? El que esta muerto hace 30 años? Volvemos al principio? >>299382>>15308
Vamos bien SPposter, posteando con o sin banderas, vamos bien
>>15303<"Choice" between an openly rightoid western puppet and a potential crypto-fash LARPing as red
I don't see a lesser evil in this.socialismSocialism
Chico, ya se te acabo los insutlos que tienes que andar ya rascando el fondo del barril? Jajajaja
A un burgués le da igual, no conocen una diferencia entre revisionistas o no. Seamos honestos, cualquiera que vean como detrimento a su poder son enemigo.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Mi bandera se me va por la proxy jajasendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
I know who wants a Castillo victory. The rural peasantry of Peru
Yo no hablo de lo que opina un burgués, hablo de lo que tú opinas. Andas mintiendo flagrantemente diciendo que Maduro mata comunistas
¿qué evidencias tienes?
Ya el ministerio de comunicación de venezuela hizo pública las entrevistas a las localidades donde esas fuerzas, ellos comentan, los sometieron por la fuerza, colocaron minas personales y vivían bajo el miedo de su sometimiento.
¿CUÁLES SON TUS PRUEBAS?chavismoChavismo
I meant link the source, you fucking dipshit!socialismSocialism
Sure. The larger peasantry who constitute the bureaucrat imperialist class.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
That's the bolshevik flag, in a bolshevik hat.chavismoChavismo
>>15323>peasants are actually bureaucrat imperialists
>>15316>No quiero decir, por lo que simplemente me escudo en como el burgues lo ve.
Looks like it's ultratime fellas.
>>15321>Andas mintiendo flagrantemente diciendo que Maduro mata comunistas.
No fue mentira, el mismo artículo admite que hubo confrontamiente entre la FARC y la militar venezolana. Lo único que dijeron fue que era un evento desafortunado, como si eso no dijeran siempre.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Ok dude, looking back on it, it seems like you're not a westerner LARPer, considering that you speak Spanish, and you actually have some good points, but can you please stop being an edgelord and speak in English, I'd actually like to have a discussion with you considering you seem more knowledgeable than me.
Please read *some* Peruvian history before opening your dumbass mouth. The large peasants whose families moved to the city and held government positions to protect their land have the most representation in the Andes. Dumb gringo fuck.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
how is castillo fash?
for wanting to send back the gusanos? for not being 100% behind the fags?
silence yourself kraut
Pedir pruebas a un gonzaloidiota es pedir pruebas al olmo. El estupido ultra seguira tirando mierda con ventilador esperando no quedar como un bocotas solamente.
No, el artículo que puse DICE QUE LAS FARC SE DESLINDAN de ese grupo, es decir, que NO ERA LA LÍNEA IDEOLÓGICA de las FARC.
Y su postura es clara: La lucha es en COLOMBIA.
¿Desde cuándo la lucha de un grupo guerrillero que ni controla el estado en el que su posición fundacional (incluso está en su nombre) va atacar otro estado, sino es porque UN BURGUÉS o un capital los está dirigiendo?
De nuevo, disfruta tu ban.chavismoChavismo
Uh… any news on the actual elections?
Obvio fue contra la FARC revolucionaria que se separó de los electorales, no van a abrir fuego a sus aliados…sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
>>299417> The large peasants whose families moved to the city and held government positions to protect their land have the most representation in the Andes.
Ah yes, how can I forget that when I mentioned, peasant families I refered to peasant families and not urban families.
I can't imagine how a person of a "large peasant" class gets more than one vote.>>15335
None, the news flash is in 6 hours. The fast counting result probably tomorrow and the full result probably thursday.
They don't hence why Castillo got 11% of the vote LOL. Also their descendants still run their land in the actual countryside.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
No, imbécil, el grupo que se deslindó de la atacada por las FANB ES LA FACCIÓN ARMADA NO ELECTORALISTA.
MÁRQUEZ ESTÁ ARMADO, PERO NO ESTÄ DE ACUERDO CON ATACAR VENEZUELA PORQUE NO ES SU LUCHA.
Maduro no "está matando comunistas".
Deja de inventar imbecilidades.chavismoChavismo
Y así como inventa por un lado, sin traer pruebas, cómo será lo que inventará sobre Castillo.
No vivo allá para saber, pero acá no puede hablar ni puto pío el desgraciado ultra.chavismoChavismo
De esa misma hablo, bobo, tranquilito. Claro que van a atacar los revolucionarios verdaderos en lugar de la "FARC" oficial, me debes estar malinterpretando al propósito.
Estas llorando por el nombre, pero la situación sigue que atacaron comunistas en lucha armada.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
>>15331<Castillo scapegoats Venezuelan migrants<Calls them criminals<Wants to deport them all as soon as possible<Regular reactionary tendencies like homophobia, racism etc.
Also, I meant that he is potentially a crypto-fash (like Strasserism for example). It is also possible, he just wants to gain political points from rightoids (it didn't work), since he may be just a filthy opportunist
I hope he is just the latter. Either way, his economic plans are also rubbish too, therefore not even critical support from me.socialismSocialism
Esos no son los electoralistas dios mioooo mira como cargan armassssss
los electoralistas abandonaron las armas y esta siendo diezmados por que JUSTAMENTE NO TIENEN ARMAS.
oh no the poor cuban migrants in miami ;(
The real PCP newspaper is http://banderaroja.org/
and they have denounced him too.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
>>15344>los electoralistas abandonaron las armas y esta siendo diezmados por que JUSTAMENTE NO TIENEN ARMAS.>lol cínico.
Así es… en Colombia.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
They do control, they don'tcontrol, they control the land but not the votes, they have power but not, what is your point
Is like you are only talking what is in your imagination. Merging hacendado with "large peasant".>>15342
Well, thanks, calling it strasserism is too much, as well as calling it facism Are we going to argue about how prolgbt was the USSR,China or the SP?
he is just as conservative as the regional leftist in power, akin to Evo.>>15343
Castillo archieved left unity from all the parties and movements involved in electoralism, petty fights for power will be argued later. In contrast, glowing path remnants just call for blank votes, as always (not even mentioning the killing in Ene, with the pamphlet calling for the "cleansing of social parasites, gays, lesbians, drunkards, etc".
and shining path velasco despite maoist china being close with him
Entonces, no eran comunistas, ¿o eran comunistas imbéciles? lol
Ni siquiera quiero saber por qué pones a Jabba the Vaush, pero bueno.chavismoChavismo
I'm saying the large peasants maybe might want Castillo in response to someone, you said they don't control the vote, I agreed they don't and hence why he still only got 11%. What's not to understand?sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Porque tienen la misma capacidad intelectual.
Pero para responder a tu pregunta, son "comunistas", si lo vemos de la perspectiva del gobierno venezolano, pero siguen siendo revisionistas que no valen nada. Sin embargo es obvio por qué el gobierno querrá terminar con ellos.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
having reactionary tendencies might be a sign of crypto-fash in central europe, but not in poor countries or the third world, as in those cases it is just mirroring the mindset of the local working class/peasants. He isnt pandering to rightoids, he is pandering to the average poor/working/rural/indigenous… person in Peru.
Hell, Castillo is a teacher from bumfuck nowhere in Peru, I wouldnt be surprised if he isnt even pretending and is deeply uncomfortable with the Idea of LGBT himself.
Most socialist movements in poor countries weren't paragons of progressive values, just take figures like Che, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh.
Don't you know he was a fascist? A fascist who proclaims agrarian reform? Who let's and finances coops? Who nationalizes the oil? Who gets close to the USSR and is friend with Castro?
A classic example of fascism you see
>>15354>large peasants maybe might want
this is one of those moments where the petite bourgeoisie farmers align with the peasants. Would've thought a maoist could understand that since that's what half of maoism is about
The comparison to Strasserism was not meant literally. I don't see anti-Semitism in his rhetoric. It is just similar that he LARPs as red, while speaking like the darkest reaction.
And no, the USSR, SP and China were not fascist – the latter at least not yet.socialismSocialism
Uh no, the large peasants were isolated and liquidated if needed by both the Chinese and Peruvian New Democratic revolutions. The middle peasantry could usually be convinced to the side of the lower peasantry, and the latter were the revolutionary force behind the party's army.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Dios mío, el estatus intelectual de tu pozo en donde te revuelcas no tiene justificación alguna. No vuelvas hasta que tu movimiento no tenga una victoria revolucionaria. Cuando puedas tener una revolución, y sea exitosa y haya traído prosperidad, ven a darme lecturas sobre que puede o no "valer nada".chavismoChavismo
Kek te aviso, al momento la revolución agraria en Brasil está en buen camino ;)sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Sí, mientras deja de inventar mentiras sobre Maduro matando comunistas, pedazo de basura.chavismoChavismo
If you believe they just rounded up and shot all the farm owners in China and handed all land over to the peasants, you are an idiot. What is new democracy? It's the alignment of the small landowner with the peasant against imperialism.
Cry for me tailist revisionist scum>>15366
Keyword, SMALL. You seem to be in agreement with me.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
>>15357>Most socialist movements in poor countries weren't paragons of progressive values, just take figures like Che, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh.
I know that, but they were still more progressive than the regimes they replaced. I'm not mad, when they are indifferent to things like the LGBTQ question, but outright denouncing them as a major societal problem is very problematic in my eyes. It's not far from policies, which want to "heal" from homosexual "mental illness" and such. Cuba at least managed to fix this after some time. I don't know about NK and Vietnam right now.socialismSocialism
>>15367>Cry for me tailist revisionist scum>revisionist scum>calls revisionist the largest military communist guerrilla in the whole South American region, with tens of thousands of active members in Colombia, when in Peru they never went above 3k members.
The party should be quality over quantity. Everyone should know this.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
"other communists" are missing. Please add thatsocialismSocialism
The one in the freezer calls agaisnt the one that has at least power and fights imperialism everyday to not collapse to reaction.
Yeah, that's why the Lgbt collective end up supporting him, the other side is the farright christian sects and that just will make their lives misserable->>15370
30 years anon, 30 years
the landowners backing Castillo ARE small. There aren't any nationwide landlords, or even multinationals, uniting behind this guy from the middle of nowhere. It's the local mountain rondero with running water supporting him.
>>15370>quality over quantity
ah, yes, wouldn't it be because your ideology is unwanted, perhaps?
lol the quality attracts quantity, without support, how you sustain the democratized labor forces you have and stop capitalism backlash?chavismoChavismo
This is just not true and you need to give me anything that isn't anecdotal evidence.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
>>15374>PCP's army reached 10k
they were armed with sticks
>>15374>Also the PCP's army reached 10k members what the fuck are you saying?
Shinning path =/= Partido Comunista del Peru from a loooooong time ago.chavismoChavismo
find me le evil kulak then
As I said; hyper-sectarian dogmatistssocialismSocialism
I'm talking about the "Shining Path", yes.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Today's SP is less than 1k members, lmao. If your reactionary shit were big, cities in Peru would be in flames all these years with your acts.chavismoChavismo
I don't give a shitsendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
the masses have priority, purist
>Catillo is supported by small owning class
<NO HE'S SUPPORTED BY THE BIG CORN FLOUR CONSUMING RICH LAND OWNERS
I don't think there's even enough rich people outside of Lima for that to be true
These are not mutually exclusive brainletsendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Lmao, witness the power of mass line
Aw damn, you hear that guys, he doesn't give a fuck. Guess we better call it in, I sure feel BTFO as a cringe opportunist libtard kulak
Anons peruanos ya votaron? Han habido peleas o conflictos?
You definitely didn’t pick quality
>>15372>Yeah, that's why the Lgbt collective end up supporting him
Yeah, I need a source or evidence on that one. From how Castillo talks, I'm not conviced he would treat them any better than regular rightoids. I also need to stress that this is not the only issue with Castillo. Shitty economic plans, anti-Vuvuzuelan migrant hysteria, racism etc.socialismSocialism
ooga booga shut up queersendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
To them is not perfect, but of course there is division because as you point out, he is conservative on those issues.
I hope that anime girl is killed in a violent sendero orchestrated massacre
No I'm with himsendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Nothing will ever convince me that Maoists are not cultists. They engage in someone the most craziest thinking and activities which is so devoid of reality. The turn the working class and peasantry into abstract categories devoid of their real nature and then idolize it and religiously worship it. It’s so funny.
>>15395>anti-Vuvuzuelan migrant hysteria
I think people on this board are misinterpreting what Castillo meant by this. As far as I'm aware isn't he doing this in particular for the Venezuelan gov? After all most Venezuelan immigrants are rightwing as fuck, the PSUV probably appreciates a lot that a country is refusing to take in the gusanos.
And so what if he doesn't? What is so terrible about treating fags like the bourgeois degenerate filth they are? Perhaps it's because you're one of them? Well here's a tip, sodomy and smearing shit on your dick are not fundamental aspects of socialism.
kys westernoid radlib
I'm not watching one hour of propaganda.
I don't have it I watched it a long time agosendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
ok then leave the thread
Shut up cuntsendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
My biggest problem with maoists is that they tend to talk from a position of power they haven't held in decades. Maybe if they were more grounded in reality it would be easier to interact with them but they tend to be batshit insane. Also the fact that they're extremely sectarian, I try to be as accepting of leftunity (or marxist unity) as much as possible but it's difficult if these fags are behaving in the complete opposite manner.
ok gloria steinham
Are you plesen btw
Kill yourselfsendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Read the PCP's thoughts on homos first
>Yeah, I need a source or evidence on that onehttps://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1401227014422601733
took me one minute of googling
come on now
Gonzaloism is a cult
A fucking based onesendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
So the PCP duped some whitebread Canadian firsties into being useful idiots. That doesn't mean that the PCP doesn't rightly recognize, as all real communist groups do, that homosexuality is an abomination
No, you just a cartoonish and racist impression of people in the Global South.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
cope all you want but peruvian trans activists support castillo
This is true, but only under a false impression of him being a "lesser evil".sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
You're both wrong. My main gripe is that he doesn't want to build socialism. It is just the /pol/yp's obsession to always hyper-focus on trans people specifically.socialismSocialism
>morals are inherent to a race
>you're the racist!
Nah I'm with yousendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
You're still a leftcop thosendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
you are the only retard who keeps bringing up idpol no one was talking about that before
Okay, that is a new one to me.socialismSocialism
What was the name of this site?
I will propose a new theory:
A group of senderistas will unequivocally end up any discussion turning them into a fight about homosexuality, homophobia, first-world degeneracy, sex, so on, and so on.
It's because they're a twisted sex cult OP
Any exit polls?
>peru elections thread
<99% of its content is an argue with a western gonzaloite and not peru-related things
Can't you just ban that guy?
It's not just me.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Nothingburger, she'll get thrown out for abuse of power under the Fujimori RegimetechnocracyTechnocracy
Pretty sure that's a "he" lol.
The sheer level of cringe in this thread
This is what a federal agent looks likesendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
Based image. I'm saving it.
Yeah yeah, you show up and wreck shit and then when anyone stands up to you, you cry "you're a fed." I'm onto you, I know how you guys are, and I think you're a bitch.
>>15437>Even against a fake leftist, the CIA just can't resist. LMAO
This js a QAnon level of political analysis.
Glowies out in full force today
>>15433>hey guys i believe in democracy but let me lock up any opposing political party in jail for "hate speech" and then hold a poll>yeah>that's democracy
Lmao based random commenter
you saved my life, penny avatarfag <3
Basado el compañero, no se si es un hamster o que wea es pero basado
So, are maoist just reactionary? A lot like the terrorist in Russia during the civil war, who Lenin despised because they thought terrorism is the only goal.ak-47AK-47
Which terrorists are you referring to?
Who won perufaggots?
The first exit poll just came in.
It's over bros, we lost. We were too cocky.
source cause i know you're lying
now the glowing pathista will say this is good
Good, the opportunist bureaucrat lost. As a true communist I can only be rejoiced.left_communismLeft Communism
I know you're a trolling pussy but it is funny how these 'real communists' hate the left liberals more than the right libs
there's still like three hours before voting time stops. i don´t know where the fuck they got those numbers
Idk seems like a significant gap
Yep, we can go back to being doomers and avidly respond to low quality bait.
Or develop self-discipline by balancing reading theory with organizing and making propaganda.
Hope the country goes to utter shit and the liberal faggots voting the jap get their lifes shit up completely.
who says its over yet?pan-africanismPan-Africanism
Some fag implying so.
You saying it's not yet reliable?
The rural votes are the ones that can change the game in favor for Castillo.
we must wait and see. Nothing has come forward yet just some faggot who posted a twitter screenshotpan-africanismPan-Africanism
If they steal the rural votes, Castillo is fucked.
GIVE ALL ENERGY TO CASTILLO
INSHALLAH INSHALLAH INSHALLAH INSHALLAH BISMILLAH ALLAHUAKBAR
FUCK OFF YOU LITERAL FUCKING DEMORALIZING GLOWFAGGOT. HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKING FEARMONGERING ATTENTION WHORE
I NEED MOARpan-africanismPan-Africanism
hey man do you have one of those cool revolutions yet bro we could really use it
SENDING OVER 3000 ENERGY POINTS.
Rolling for Castillo
CASTILLO WILL WIN RED LATINAMERICA INCOMING
Manifesting a totally legal and legitamite Fujimori slam dunkarmchairArmchair
Just came from voting>>15512
people still retweeting exit polls from 1300… cant find any new ones
God I'm literally shaking rn
Keep fearmongering glowuyghur.
ALLAH IS GREAT CASTILLO WILL WINislamic_communismIslamic Communism
Why would a glowie try to make us scared? We're going to know the results in two days anyways.
Exit polls are when you ask people who they voted for as they leave the voting site. Usually somewhat accurate
People's war has to be organized
God I'm literally shaking rn
Jeez I think keiko won, the TV people are all happy and giggly..
it's over… we lost…
TIGHT TIGHT TIGHTislamic_communismIslamic Communism
3% margin of error
Quick count with 1% margin in 4 hours
It's within the margin of error surely
>trusting this bourgeois election, to be at all fair right now.
I'm not surprised at all yes the counting isn't done but if this hold's with the media black out and fear mongering I'm again wouldn't be surprised.
3% margin error
In 2016 they failed
maybe the Castillo voters were too chad to respond to exit polls
Demoralize elsewhere glowfaggot
Oh for sure. I’m hopeful but idk bros>>15558
Well, American pollsters
You can't jinks elections this mysticism isn't dialectical!
Is there any where to live track the results?
The poll is live in channel 4 America TV. I think about doing a cytube but nah, too much efforthttps://youtu.be/bo2iYV2UOpM
If you rewind like 11 minutes you can watch the exit poll (boca de urna)
what the fuck why is caballo running for election in peru?
Fujimori is going to privatize EVERYTHING.
She'll start by privatizing water
Because he hates your freedom and want you dead, of course! You should vote for the right
side instead, Peru anons.naziNazi
Does Peru have mail voting?democrapDemocrap
Right now the peruvian left is united, even the lgtbq idpol people support castillo, even feminists.
Maybe the left will finally organize for real now that keiko will literally start to hunt down 'communists' like his father did
Don't forget the courts that are investigating her. I bet they have been checking how to get political assylum in Sweden or Uruguay
Idk i re-read this with different interpretations each time. We just need to wait longer for the final results.
Does voting work or not in bourge run states? In the US it would seem it doesnt for major issues but I guess south america had some success in getting socialists elected, or is this not true?
>>15579>Does voting work or not in bourge run states? In the US it would seem it doesnt for major issues but I guess south america had some success in getting socialists elected, or is this not true?
Reform and revolution both work in Third World countries, whereas neither works in First World countries. This fact will make /leftypol/ seethe though.tankieTankie
It may seem like it's more common but it only seems that way because South America doesn't have that many countries. All things considered in the Pink Tide the only people who got elected which could maybe be considered socialists (better described as radical socdems with an emphasis on anti-imperialism) were Chavez and Evo, maybe Correa. Since then Venezuela and Bolivia managed to solidify their popularity among the people so they could keep getting reelected, in the case of Venezuela Chavez until 2013 but the party has stayed in power, and in Bolivia Evo being president for almost 15 years straight. But other than that, it's not that common outside of surges in popularity of socdems around the continent.
I agree with the first half, but what makes you say revolution won't work in the first world? Because it would get stomped before it happens? I AM LITERALLY SEETHING IRL BY THE WAY >:(((
We can take it to QTDDTOT if this question will derail.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Why do the candidates have two running mates?
First World revolutions have never been able to get the level of popular support needed to be successful. Personally I think it's because "you have nothing to lose but your chains" doesn't ring true when you have a comfy life, even if you're ultimately being exploited.tankieTankie
In the original pink wave the others (who as others have pointed out, the so called pink wave had a lot of heads and thoughts) who lost elections or where couped (soft or in one case an army one)>Paraguay (congress coup to Lugo)>Brazil (congress coup to Dilma)>Chile (Bachelet)>Uruguay (Pepe Mujica and Tabare Vasquez)>Argentina (Cristina loses to Macri)>Nicaragua (the crisis of 2017)>El Salvador (The FMNL loses to Bukele)>>15582
If the french army menaces JVPITER imagine how they would act against Melechon, or the menaces that were directed towards Corbyn. The other side is that when they are elected in the first world they are elected in watered down platforms that doesn't solve the economic roots of the problem (Someone could post IN THE OTHER SUPPOSED THREAD the image of the betrayals of Euro Socdems to socialsim) >>15583
I didn't understand it well but this is the ballotage or second round.>>15585
Fujis argue that the head of the Electoral Jury was proCastillo, and journos (allegedly ProCastillo) argued that the head of the National Office of Elections was proKeiko.
I'm waiting for the fast count at least.
Sleeper agents are ready bros
Bachelet doesn't count, she's a neolib
How often do they update the count peruanons? It's been like an hour of counting and they still have it as 50,3% Keiko 49,7%
Good point. I think until a socialist nation is seen as far better rather than an oppressive undemocratic dictatorship enemy and/or 3rd world poophole, there won't be much motivation to risk our secure contentness for it.
That is the exit poll, the official one or the fast count hasn't been released yet.
This is what I got
Official count isn't out yet
That would be because of imperialism. First world countries can get by having service industry workers that can be sent home during covid because the goods they consume come so cheaply from exploited countries.
That's why increasingly I am seeing the important of countries like peru socializing.
That monstrosity only happens in the U.S. in this side of the hemisphere. >>15592
Shit Lima looks too grim. I would move the power out of there if I was Castillo or in one year I'd get couped.
Am I right in assuming Fujimori is winning in the white and Europeanized mestizo regions while Castillo is winning in the indigenous and indigenous-mestizo regions?tankieTankie
I do not like putting etnic background to class first but yeah
It's pretty much what Mariategui wrote 100 years ago.
>Collaboration with the bourgeoisie and even many feudal elements in the anti-imperialist struggle in China are explicable in terms of race and national culture that are not relevant for us. A Chinese nobleman or bourgeois feels himself Chinese to the core. He matches the white man's contempt for his stratified and decrepit culture with his own contempt and pride in his millennia-long tradition. Anti-imperialism can therefore find support in such sentiments and in a sense of Chinese nationalism. Circumstances are not the same in Indo America. The native aristocracy and bourgeoisie feel no solidarity with the people in possessing a common history and culture. In Peru, the white aristocrat and bourgeois scorn the popular and the national. They consider themselves white above all else. […] As long as the imperialists are able to "manage" the sentiments and formalities of these states' national sovereignty and are not forced to resort to armed intervention or military occupation, they can definitively count on the collaboration of their bourgeoisies. While they may depend upon the imperialist economy, these countries, or rather their bourgeoisies, consider themselves as much the masters of their own fate as Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, and the other "dependent states" of Europe.https://www.marxists.org/archive/mariateg/works/1929-ai.htm
Well well well, it looks like the "IdPol" (i.e. recognizing that whites are far more reactionary than other groups in general) wins again.tankieTankie
Peruvian civil war calling it now.
Oof it’s over bros we lost
Third Worldism is a meme this has proven that thirdie proles are just as brainwashed as firstie ones.
I hope Keiko privatises every one of their natural resources to Tesla and all the people that vooted for her are worked to death in mines so Elon can floss dance in frot of his HECKIN ROCKETeurekaEureka
Holy shit I thought I was the only person that recognized this
This election could get really fucked, especially if Fujimori does glowie ops
Based. If Castillo attempts to coup the government Ill concede that he isnt pussy footing around. The people should support him in this attempt
Peru is filled with fuckin anime simps and Japanese simps, that’s why Fuji is winning.
Castillo is going to siege the capital
Maybe ur right, i have the feeling that half the voters of Keiko are simps that find her attractive.
This. After this I hope nothing but brutal destruction of both the degenerate indios and the white castizo population. May they destroy each other in the neoliberal era.
Only because Castillo is “conservative” but only nominally and not in any considerable way.
castillo nazbols need to go back with the rest of bunkerfags
disregard I was wrong and retarded
Damn Maduro got moves
Went and looked and yeah they simping for her and going wow based dad lol.
Can’t simp for a women until I’ve seen her feet
It’s literally Japanese fever im telling you. They think she’ll bring Japanese “properness” and “social cohesion” to Peru because they are all anime fags pedos and Japanese simps.
Nice Zionist funded Armament poltard.
I want to ask, are you even a communist?
>>15573>steals your vote
It's called a hustle, sweetheart!
What are you even trying to say? Go away fujiglowie
here the state is totally corrupt and uselees, private mines and quarries give more to the surrounding people than this fuckin mess, so the logical conclusion if you are a leftists or somenoe who "cares" about people is to end the state, but comunism is about ideology not peopleeurekaEureka
So you white uyghurs want an sjw in power?
You sound like a BLM cucked bitch.
You sound like a massive theorylet, even worse than the average poster here
Just go away you have no idea what you are talking about. It's embarrassing and sad
leftypol and pol both support the most lukewarm of socdems for epic social conservatism
you are not above idpol, castillo will doom the lefts future in peru but """"converted""" polyps don't care
>>15648>castillo will doom the lefts future in peru
lol shut up faggot
why do you lie about who /pol/ supports
Nobody cares about that. I want Castillo to nationalize or at least put the squeeze on multinational companies involved in resource extraction.
No, this is more the way cities work. It is easier to have a small shop and believe somehow you are a capitalist, and at the same time you are someone whose last name is Quapetec.
In big cities, if they are also a port, the capital influx is higher, thus, creates a class of those who are closer to the services, money printer, and the benefits of a higher capital influx that truly believe being better than those pesky countrymen. That's the middle class, the petite bourgeoisie, and their brainwashed sub-servants.
In the cities, those who are revolutionary are in the favelas, los barrios, because they see the injustice each day closely.
I can guarantee that Lima results shown are completely related to the Venezuelan influx where they have been brainwashing the Peruvian middle class, and if the media tells you, comparing word by word, even in a phrase of 15 words, that Castillo is Chavez, they would eat that garbage afraid of what their Venezuelans "panas" would tell them, even that Venezuelans migrants give 0 fucks about any country they are at because they left their own.
>>15653>Nobody cares about that.
leftypol does, passionately even
I thought /pol/tards loved the Fujimoris because they're le epic BASED Asians bringing civilization to the savages
>>15648>you are not above idpol, castillo will doom the lefts future in peru but """"converted""" polyps don't care
now all conections with MRTA, Shinning path and Narcoterrorists, this is the last nail in the coffin of the dying Peruvian left -wing>>15646
if fidel and maduro really cared about theri people they would stop their stupid system and embrace free market policies instead of prolonging a 10 year humanitarian crisis, late stage socialism/comunism (like lenin) is reached in only 6 years, muh late stage capitalism took 600 years and will returneurekaEureka
>>15616>opposing x because irrational people support it
so you accept irrationality but another layer addedtranshumanismTranshumanism
>>15648< Keiko Fujimori wins> starts reign of SLAY KWEEN terror backed by the US> kills all the leftists in power> establishes another 30 year dictatorship> Anon on mongolian basket-weaving forum argues that this is the left winning
Reported for anti-communism
Cuba literally just made 3 covid vaccines and is vaccinating its population and will be sending vaccines to the entire third world. Meanwhile, neoliberal peru has the highest per-capita death rate from covid in the world.
MUH HUMANITARIAN CRISIS
at least this faggot is openly anticommunist and not faking it like most of this board
How do you "fake" anti-communis, retard?
Cuba has a scabies crisis and most doctors are used as slave labour for pennies, cuba survives thanks to GUSANOS and prostitutioneurekaEureka
Lmao at this imbecilic fujiturd spamming this inane crap here
i am refering to faking them being communists, if you weren't retarded and read in context that would've been obvious to you
but i need toconsider what board i'm on, obviously you can't fucking read
Remain eternally seething rightoid subhuman
"Im a communist, but TRUE communism has never been tried"
He met with a bunch of lgtbq people yesterday and they were chill and actually supported castillo
this thread turned into pure garbage
keep bitching, illiterate pseud
Comrade you do a little trollin.
go sign up and die for your retarded inbred Kurdish retards in Rojava faggot
Seethe faggot rightoid
It's a retarded fujiturn, report and move on
Ah, yes, we must tolerate the U.S. sanctioning Venezuela and Cuba so they cannot develop socialism. It's like "the stronger and the better must reign" except if someone poses an alternative. In that case, crush them.
And it is somehow Fidel's and Maduro's fault.
you are a liar and a snake
>>15666>calls patriotic Cubans as gusano
Nice job revealing yourself as a Fidelista
lgbtq are more often affected by poverty, they don't support him but his empty false promises as they'd support the majority of them, when the two options on lgbtq questions are shit and this is the difference, then that is what they pick, but it is not a matter of personal liking
alternatively they could have openly attacked him for the gain of you to sperg out over and nothing else
The post is correctly reported for reactionary shit.
cope harder fascist
lmao nice one.
Have sex you inbred criminal, your kind will be exterminated cocksucking faggot whore
Comrades we must support US intervention immediately it is the only way to true communism let's be honest.transhumanismTranshumanism
Se nota la diferencia.
No problem, it's easy to see the difference. The un-intellectual mental gymnastic they execute is easy to spot.chavismoChavismo
Unfortunately, because the leftists in Chile have disappointed me, I have no choice but to become a Pinochet supporter.
Did I imply Castillo was based and redarmy-pilled? No, he's no morales or castro, but he's clearly clearly cleary the better option. Stop being retarded. If Fujimori wins, it's literally fucking over for Peru.
Guys Rosa failed, KPD and SPD got destroyed, and the DDR fell, guess I'm forced to be a Nazi now
Lol, basically half the posters here
This. I really really hope to see Fuji brutalize her nation and the indigenous population by wiping out their numbers completely.
>>15640>and quarries give more to the surrounding people than this fuckin mess>he doesn't know about the chevron and exxo mobile case in the U.S. where a whistleblower revealed:>Chevron and exxon mobile were contaminating Ecuador fields, on purpose because was cheaper>the two companies filed a lawsuit because the whistleblower had access to "sensitive" information>not a single attorney want to take the case>the judge looked into private firms VIOLATING THE DUE PROCESS>the law firm that took the case is related to the oil companies, is a clear violation of conflict of interests.>the case is ongoing and waiting for a verdict but it is clear the judge wants him jailed, so even if he appeals, he will be in jail, and the system will slow down the lawfare to put him for months or years before retaking the case.
Bros I know that Fujimori basically just wants to whore out her nation to America and keep up shitty Neolib policies that are going to keep annihilating everything, but Castillo isn't waving a gay flag and prefers Tankies
It's over for Communism
Quick count results should be out any moment
It’s all gig economy, privatization, pods, and forever culture wars from now on. Forget winning progressive health reform or even lower rent, it’s over bros. Fascism is the only thing left.
Anons peruanos que es conteo rapido? A que se refieren con eso?
It's the first ballot to be received, mostly from the nearest and electronic votes.
Means quick or rapid count.
If the conteo rapido results are impossible to change, it is considered victory without taking the rest of the votes.
Hehe, I knew someone putting so invested in doomingposting was a Fuji.
Looks like we got 2 fujis lol The doomer one and Eurekaflag>>15669>Kills
Hum, I don't think someone could be this stupid.FAST COUNT 100%PC:50.1%KF:49.8%
Holy shit, the technical tie is real hahahaha
Nooooooooo Fuji my Japanese waifu!!!!! She has to win desu!!!11
First the gonzaloite, then the LGBT focused anon, and now a visit from 2 fujis. I wanted something chill and got this.
At least I can't complained about being bored.
The technical tie is real lol. The role of the personero (idk how it is said in english, the guy who monitors the vote counting in one station in behalf of one party) role will be of extremely importance.>>15698
Don't atribute conducts from us with polacks anon, there is a rule about that I think.
Sorry about that, I meant that there's a bunch of glowies ITT which i spissing me off
There is a difference between wanton brutality and focused, organized terror. TERRORISM is ANTITHETICAL to Leninist strategy and before folks say that this is people's war, there is doing people's war good, and people's war fucking shitty to the point of not bothering to consider them as a meaningful vehicle of revolutionary aspirations. Cultish sects have no place in 21st century movement for communism. Get with the times or stay irrelevant for the decades to come.lenin_capLenin Cap
Did Sensei defeat the gringo puppet yet?
FUJITURDBROS ???? PEDRO IS FUCKING… WINNING??????
fujiturdbros im literaly shaking
Are the any signs of manipulation out there? Usually when it's 50:50 it's a super easy job for the glowies. I've seen some Peruvians posting that there is some weird shit going on.
The fast count gives Castillo 0.4% of advantage.
The technical tie mantains.
Now is the labour of the party and the personeros to hold the votes.
I wouldn't get too cocky, but oh well. If I had bet on Castillo at the beggining I would have a little fortune.
There's a video out there of fujimori supporters doing ballot stuffing
Why the hell is their symbol a pencil?
If he wins nothing will really happen. What has the party of Morales done in Bolivia so far?
corruption investigations clearing out the CIA
Bolivia had the best growth on average in the region for like a decade under Evo, lmao what the fuck are you talking about?
At this rate, we just have to wait three more exit polls and then Castello wins!
>>15730>What has the party of Morales done in Bolivia so far?
Fastest growing economy in Latin America.
Not boil babies and kill dogs and LGBT people
>>15725>The technical tie mantains.
Newfag here for da happenings, is there a threshold of 1% or something needed to win?
sending thoughts & prayers to Pedro :]
Just need to have more votes in theory. But if it's this close they can't declare a probable winner without counting more. Also, our guy has a higher chance of getting it stolen by glowies if its close
The pencil is the first thing a kid uses to learn. It simbolises it, specially in the poor communities where getting a pencil and notebooks are sacrifices from the family,
There is nothing more important than education.>>15728
There are not even elites in Lima lol, I don't have the numbers but I bet that more than 2/3s of the city live in the cliff of poverty>>15730>Nationalizing the resources>Giving the people one of the fastest growing economies of latam>Supporting antiimperialist countries all over the world
Trot moment, not withouth reason but trot nontheless>>15737
You can win with 1 vote (in a true tie the tradition is a cointoss) but that means that the margin of error can fuck with any of the two.
My electrical company already supplies all their energy needs.
We can sort this out like gentlemen, or, get into some good old-fashioned gangster shit.porkyPorky
fujiturdbros i am shidding and fardding
Castillo is a schoolteacher and the party is big on public education for poor people. Picture from Cuba! Castillo in practice is probably going to govern more like Evo Morales though I think, he talks about nationalizations one second, but in reality I think it'll probably be like renegotiating contracts with mining firms so a greater share of the profits go to the Peruvian state sector.
It makes sense from a strictly economic point of view. Copper prices are at a record high and Peru is a huge copper exporter.
>>15512>CASTILLO WILL WIN RED LATINAMERICA INCOMING
Fucking incredible.lenin_capLenin Cap
I’m asking because no one is talking about it, there is no thread that’s anchored on Bolivia so I immediately assume nothing is happening.
SPAM PENCIS TO SUPPORT CASTILLO, BABIES AND DOGS TO SAY FUCK YOU TO GONZALO, AND GREEN APPLES BECAUSE FUJI APPLES ARE RED
>>15251>gonzalo did nothing wrong
what did he do right lolleft_communismLeft Communism
Listen, this might surprise you, but we don't have goldfish memories, despite rightoids intentions to erase facts or speeches told, like Pastrana, after he accused fujimorism of doing terrible things, he now supports keiko "to protect the freedums (tm)" or Llosa being communist, now sharing the bed with draconian Spanish authorities.
Someone who speaks Spanish, what are the gusanos at r/Peru saying? I'd love to mine some salt
she's kind of ugly tbh
Probably the same anticommunist bullshit you can find anywhere, isn't worth anyone time.
I'd say she's a 3 out of 10 for her age group, but a 3/10 Asian is like a 5/10 for all other ethnicities
A common trend:
Allegedly some persons with hundreds of "cedulas" (gov ids, similar to social security number) apparently going to vote for Pero Libre, Castillo's party. But that's the media accusation, not a single video from the captured guy. Seems more like a false-flag to accuse Castillo of fraud and create a fake narrative.
And the morons are eating the b8.
What’s a 10/10 Asian for you?
Hum, depends in if the rice is just white rice or Green rice with chicken. In the last case it could be considered a double (a combo of foods vendors sell in markets, mixing ceviche, the said green rice and Salsa a la Huancaina)
Visit Peru! (Now there are no turists in the inka ruins lol)
It looks nasty but I assure you that shit is pretty damn good
thank you perubros - I was too quick to judge
They are painfully centrist. There are some dumb fucks calling people to buy dollars and euros because "the price will skyrocket now"sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
shut up shining turd
Brother that’s a Caucasian.
my brain must be permanently fried and turned asexual because I'm not feeling shit
I will beat you with a stick for calling her a 10/10
Bro come on this chick hardly looks asian
That HAS to be a doll bro wtftechnocracyTechnocracy
Westaboo bimbo (as in bimbo fetish)
will he pardon guz?
One year less in jail is one year less in kail. The second one is a banger>>15786
No. It's too unpopular and if he doesn't prove he is diying (terminally ill) he can't ask for a pardon.
Sorry i'm not into girls dying of starvation
death to the middle ground>>15749
post of the year all year every year
Sort of unrelated, but even if this never happens, would you guys pardon and release Gonzalo? I know most people here don't like Gonzaloites, but wouldn't solidarity triumph over ideology?
If he let's the American woman who worked with the MRTA out, it'll be magical.
>>15789>>15789>post of the year all year every year
Watch the 300k get in this same thread.
I think they let her out a few years ago and she's back in the U.S.
This guy's organization killed and tortured other communists because of "revisionism", fuck solidarity.
Wouldn't he try to undermine you as soon as you pardoned him
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thanks anon
Extend his sentence for fracturing and demonizing communism in Peru to hellsendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
What did he mean by this?
ANOTHER FUCKING SOCIALIST ELECTION AND STILL NO MEMES
If he's too old I think he wouldn't even be able to do much. Best potential outcome would be to free him and leave him in an eldes' home where he's taken care of 24/7. I know that's basically a low security prison but I think it would be better than leaving him in jail until he dies.
Yeah nah leave him in there anyways
I don't have mememagic anon, but these anons has it>>15748>>15796
Glowies are inconsistent.
Socialists taking back the pencil pill.
I'm starting my own shining path movement, based exclusively on the wizard of oz. Also fucking around on a peru threadsendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
It's a crime to be bored in this country.>>15813
I left FB a long time ago so I don't have access to those.
The Padrinos Magicos episode about it gets mined a lot.
These fuckers really just named a district Mother of Godsendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso
LMAO the pucca one
Todays 'official results' just cover the voting centers closer to the ONPE computing servers.
It will cover mostly Lima first then as time goes on it will bring results from all over the country. If Keiko doesnt have a BIG advantage this time, it's over for her as Castillo dominates pretty much all of Peru outside of Lima and a couple of gusano provinces
I think it is because the Incan roots have some sort of proud force among them, who knows.
They wrote the Planctus Indium Christianorum, which is basically a protoindependentist dissertation made by Incans asking to the catholic church from the Spaniards for their wrongdoing saying to the church it was anti-christian what spaniards were doing to them.
*Indorum, corrector sucks.
Yeah that's pretty weird now that I think about it, who is
A department (province)
Most places that doesn't sound spanish enough have a translation in Quechua, plus there is "the freedom" and "Saint Martn" (in honor to a black monk who did miracles in the colony).
Some examples of the quechua ones:>Ayacucho
Land of the dead>Apurimac
Laughing lord (mister)>Arequipa
Here we stay/loud trumpet
I don't know quechua myself so I can't explain more.>>15821
Many thanks anon, many thanks.>>15823
the virigin Mary according to the catholic Church-
They are their own parents, they conceived themself through hermaphroditic self-fertilization.
If Gonzalo didn't try to start a violent revolution with like a couple thousand people he would be based
He was a cultist not a communist.
Tell me more about Fujimori and co. What specifically do they do?
Not without a million more people
Sure and those are great, but /leftypol/'s got nothin'!
holy crap lois>>15796
HOLY CRAP LOIS like that one time I was elected president of Peru and was couped soon afterwards>>15813
Yeah Peru is such an interesting country, it pisses me off that here in Chile peruvians are so looked down upon
thank you anon
edit: wow 20 (you)s thanks so much guys
I knew this shit was sus hahahaha
First inform from the ONPE at the 42.03%
The first votes counted are from the capital, now let's wait until Castillo gets her.
Peruvanons can probably explain them better, but I read some interesting descriptions here:
>Incidentally, [Keiko] Fujimori openly defines herself as right-wing. Like her father, Alberto, Keiko represents a brand of right-wing populism — fujimorismo is probably the first major political force in Peru to use a populist discourse, confronting the people as an undifferentiated whole against the political establishment.
>Economically, Fujimori is mercantilist, in the sense that she promotes private enterprise but not necessarily competitive markets. Basically, it’s a capitalist model based on companies gaining market shares through political contacts. In that same sense, Fujimori represents the kinds of business interests that prefer to remain in the shadows, leading some to describe fujimorismo as a mafia-like phenomenon.https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/06/pedro-castillo-peru-libre-keiko-fujimori-runoff-election-june-6-neoliberalism
Also this article points out he wiped out the national bourgeoisie, who were a product of Juan Velasco Alvarado's national development strategy. Velasco was a pro-Soviet and pro-Cuban military dictator in the late 60s / 70s, another total fluke situation, like "revolution from above" which came to power in a coup, and was also overthrown in a coup. Some of Castillo's supporters will have portraits of Velasco at his rallies.
>Alberto Fujimori oversaw one of the most pervasive and predatory neoliberal regimes in Latin America. Facing a deep economic crisis, skyrocketing inflation, a mounting terrorist offensive from the bloody and sectarian PCP-Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path) guerrilla insurgency, widespread social discontent, and popular mobilization, Fujimori adopted a two-pronged strategy: an IMF-inspired “economic stabilization program” and a counterinsurgency campaign informed by the Cold War “national security doctrine.”
>In a now-familiar pattern that Naomi Klein has described as “disaster capitalism,” Fujimori announced a severe austerity program — known as “Fujishock” — a few days after taking office in early August 1990. The package eliminated price subsidies and social spending while drastically raising interest rates and taxes.
>A majority of Peruvians were thrown into absolute poverty, and only 8 percent of the adult population remained fully employed. Farmers in the tropical valleys on the eastern slopes of the Andes turned to growing coca as a way to survive.
>Fujimori also introduced new legislation that allowed employers to fire striking workers, eliminated job security, and curtailed collective bargaining. Land reform was overturned, paving the way for the establishment of massive new estates. A banking law deregulated interest rates and opened the financial sector to foreign investment. State-owned mining and oil companies, ports, railroads, airports, power plants, and public airlines were slated for privatization.
>The legislative onslaught was coupled with an authoritarian turn. In rural areas, military “death caravans” raped, tortured, and executed citizens; college professors and students disappeared from dormitories; peasant villagers were corralled into strategic hamlets; thousands of citizens endured daily police harassment and arbitrary detentions; journalists, lawyers, and relatives of alleged subversives were executed, arrested, or disappeared.https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/07/keiko-fujimori-fujimorismo-peru-kucynski-mendoza
RUH ROH!post moar on >>>/b/>>15841
For once we're with the ruralfags?
She's sooooooo fucked.
This is going to b a 60%-40%.
RAAAARRRG, I don't like to make predictions, but I am calling it.
Absolutely psychotic. As per usual, neoliberals are every bit the unforgivable monsters they accuse their enemies of being.
it´s gonna be close but i´m calling that castillo is gonna win. he has overwherming rural suport
Holding my hands up like goku rn for all my Castillobros
The first votes counted are from the capital, I repeat.
Last time Porky got first and later fell when the non-Lima vote was counted. So one can expect the same>>15845
I wish it was a 60% but I'm not sure. That's too much man.>>15844
Castillo got 60% of rural votes in the last poll I checked. (Now he get's from 60-almost 90% in provinces) So I won't make predictions.
Think Fujimori will accept the results once ousted?
How many weeks do you give it until the CIA-led coup starts?
uygha Russians like Stalin, even some ex-Warsaw countries like Stalin, no one in Peru likes the Shining Path
It's a different anon than the Mautist
Discerning voters like yourself are what every democracy needs.
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