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This thread is for discussion of the 2021 Peruvian Election. Looks like it's going to be a close one, and either one could win this. The Peruvian Left has gone far, however, and has united under a pretty based candidate. Let's watch
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>>15251I agree with the latter and strongly disagree with the former. But especially the former is completely politically irrelevant now and I feel no sympathy for hyper-sectarian Maoist dogmatists.
Castillo is a textbook opportunist at best and a crypto-fascist LARPing as red at worst.
>Inb4 "based anti-idpol"You clowns look like people, who support hyper-reactionary social views, just to "own" the imaginary liberal crowd. The last time I checked, libs could care less about Castillo – let alone denounce his social views
socialismSocialism >>15259BHAHAHAHA
This is the communist persecution in Vuvuzela? Some clashes with the dissident FARC? You truly are firsworldist
Fuck, this makes me miss the chavista anon
>>15261Chavismo is discredited in the broadest sense, you can't imagine the amount of "WE WILL BE VUVUZELA" shit one has to witness.
Holy hell, they even bringed Leopoldo Lopez to talk about "Chavismo is incoming!"
gonzaloites don't have to worry about VZ being couped or invaded because they're bourgeois, so why not let the masses die
>>15261oof
>>15262now you care about chavismo lol
>>15272Anarchy of production but
But the workers are exploited by the state
sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso >>15273>Anarchy of production but>But the workers are exploited by the stateThese two are completely contradictary and I will recommend you reread Engels Socialism Utopian and Scientific
Nationalzied Industries are progressive and should be defended against neoliberalism need to privatize them
>>15275Ok glowie
>>15276Lmao, capitalism has stopped being progressive since the last century.
For the fucking liar senderista, about the lies he's sperging against Maduro, saying he's killing communists:
https://www.laiguana.tv/articulos/906893-farc-ep-deslindarse-caso-apure/
>Ejércitos de países vecinos no son objetivos militares: FARC-EP se deslinda de hechos en Apure<Armies of neighboring countries are not military objectives: FARC-EP demarcates from events in Apure>In a video (5:36 minutes) published on RRSS, Márquez appears along with other guerrillas fixing a position. He dissociated himself from the attack and recalled that for the rebel group "the armed struggle is in Colombian territory against an unjust regime that has oppressed us for 200 years." (referencing Colombia)>FARC-EP Second Marquetalia, clarified that the armies of neighboring countries are not military objectives. Iván Márquez, a regular spokesperson, read a statement and defined the events in #Apure as "unfortunate armed incidents between Colombian irregulars and the FANB in Venezuela."The videos are in the link.
The guy is a CIA operative.
chavismoChavismo>>15280>Guys they said it was unfortunate so they're not counter-revolutionarySTOP
COPING
>>15281Basado y rojopastillado.
sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso >>15281Si, en tu cabeza imaginaria donde ganaste una revolución que ha resistido el asedio del imperio de los U.S.
Sobre todo que casi el 90% el tráfico de la droga que parte de colombia va por el pacífico, desde Colombia a los U.S. sin pasar por Venezuela.
Deja de chupar penes.
chavismoChavismo >>15284>Basado y rojopastillado.Qué es entonces, comunistas o señores de la droga?
Decídete.
chavismoChavismo >>15288Ah, again showing how this poster doesn't know shit about peruvian media
>The media doesn't support Castillo>The media slanders him and the party as proxies from the glowing path<Who cares about the media right?>There are plenty of people wanting a Castillo victory>The countryside WILL vote in favour of him>The proletariat will vote for him<NONONO YOU MUST FOLLOW CHAIRMAN GARBANZOFor fuck sake, this is your brain on sectarianism.
>>15294Do you have some sources for that and whatever local communists think of this development?
I do hope the masses and communist parties can use Castillo as a tool to push for creating better conditions for a revolution. Maybe this can turn into Chavismo Venezuela circumstances?
When Castillo wins, we should still be advocating for more organizing and creating dual power in the government. Perhaps a push to free Guzman from prison? I dont know what demands should be included for I do not know the material problems with Peru but this could be a good start for a better movement in Latin america that represents a development and perhaps succession of Socialism in the 21st Century (which Venezuela is the only member standing in that movement even in its degraded form)
>>15293Oh god. Dude we know your a petty-booj suburbanite westerner who doesn't actually give a shit about leftism, also we can all easily see that you're a /po/yp who looked up "list of communist movements" on Wikipedia three weeks ago and picked the edgiest-sounding one. So please, kindly fuck off before you keep embarrassing yourself, and maybe do something off the internet that actually makes you happy!
Best wishes, anon.
>>15300Según tú Maduro estaba matando comunistas, gente de las FARC en Apure. Entonces Maduro es bueno porque mata revisionistas o simplemente vienes acá a ser un ultra porque sí?
O simplemente no tienes ni puta idea de lo que está pasando en Apure y vienes a decir que ahí hay un Rojava (tm) y que Estados Unidos debe dar apoyo a los grupos comunistas que están en Apure que no son ni Maduristas/Chavistas ni FARC?
Vamos, dilo.
chavismoChavismo >>15306I would kindly to use yours too insted.
>>299382>nuestroCual? El que esta muerto hace 30 años? Volvemos al principio?
>>299382>>15308…
Vamos bien SPposter, posteando con o sin banderas, vamos bien
>>15316Yo no hablo de lo que opina un burgués, hablo de lo que tú opinas. Andas mintiendo flagrantemente diciendo que Maduro mata comunistas
¿qué evidencias tienes?
Ya el ministerio de comunicación de venezuela hizo pública las entrevistas a las localidades donde esas fuerzas, ellos comentan, los sometieron por la fuerza, colocaron minas personales y vivían bajo el miedo de su sometimiento.
¿CUÁLES SON TUS PRUEBAS?
chavismoChavismo >>15316>No quiero decir, por lo que simplemente me escudo en como el burgues lo ve.My god
>>15323Looks like it's ultratime fellas.
>>15312how is castillo fash?
for wanting to send back the gusanos? for not being 100% behind the fags?
silence yourself kraut
>>15327No, el artículo que puse DICE QUE LAS FARC SE DESLINDAN de ese grupo, es decir, que NO ERA LA LÍNEA IDEOLÓGICA de las FARC.
Y su postura es clara: La lucha es en COLOMBIA.
¿Desde cuándo la lucha de un grupo guerrillero que ni controla el estado en el que su posición fundacional (incluso está en su nombre) va atacar otro estado, sino es porque UN BURGUÉS o un capital los está dirigiendo?
De nuevo, disfruta tu ban.
chavismoChavismo >>299417> The large peasants whose families moved to the city and held government positions to protect their land have the most representation in the Andes.Ah yes, how can I forget that when I mentioned, peasant families I refered to peasant families and not urban families.
I can't imagine how a person of a "large peasant" class gets more than one vote.
>>15335None, the news flash is in 6 hours. The fast counting result probably tomorrow and the full result probably thursday.
>>15336No, imbécil, el grupo que se deslindó de la atacada por las FANB ES LA FACCIÓN ARMADA NO ELECTORALISTA.
MÁRQUEZ ESTÁ ARMADO, PERO NO ESTÄ DE ACUERDO CON ATACAR VENEZUELA PORQUE NO ES SU LUCHA.
Maduro no "está matando comunistas".
Deja de inventar imbecilidades.
chavismoChavismo >>15332Y así como inventa por un lado, sin traer pruebas, cómo será lo que inventará sobre Castillo.
No vivo allá para saber, pero acá no puede hablar ni puto pío el desgraciado ultra.
chavismoChavismo >>15339De esa misma hablo, bobo, tranquilito. Claro que van a atacar los revolucionarios verdaderos en lugar de la "FARC" oficial, me debes estar malinterpretando al propósito.
Estas llorando por el nombre, pero la situación sigue que atacaron comunistas en lucha armada.
sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso >>15331<Castillo scapegoats Venezuelan migrants<Calls them criminals<Wants to deport them all as soon as possible<Regular reactionary tendencies like homophobia, racism etc.Also, I meant that he is potentially a crypto-fash (like Strasserism for example). It is also possible, he just wants to gain political points from rightoids (it didn't work), since he may be just a filthy opportunist
I hope he is just the latter. Either way, his economic plans are also rubbish too, therefore not even critical support from me.
socialismSocialism >>15341Esos no son los electoralistas dios mioooo mira como cargan armassssss
los electoralistas abandonaron las armas y esta siendo diezmados por que JUSTAMENTE NO TIENEN ARMAS.
lol cínico.
chavismoChavismo >>15343The real PCP newspaper is
http://banderaroja.org/ and they have denounced him too.
sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso >>15338They do control, they don'tcontrol, they control the land but not the votes, they have power but not, what is your point
Is like you are only talking what is in your imagination. Merging hacendado with "large peasant".
>>15342Well, thanks, calling it strasserism is too much, as well as calling it facism
Are we going to argue about how prolgbt was the USSR,China or the SP? he is just as conservative as the regional leftist in power, akin to Evo.
>>15343Castillo archieved left unity from all the parties and movements involved in electoralism, petty fights for power will be argued later. In contrast, glowing path remnants just call for blank votes, as always (not even mentioning the killing in Ene, with the pamphlet calling for the "cleansing of social parasites, gays, lesbians, drunkards, etc".
>>15349Entonces, no eran comunistas, ¿o eran comunistas imbéciles? lol
Ni siquiera quiero saber por qué pones a Jabba the Vaush, pero bueno.
chavismoChavismo >>15353Porque tienen la misma capacidad intelectual.
Pero para responder a tu pregunta, son "comunistas", si lo vemos de la perspectiva del gobierno venezolano, pero siguen siendo revisionistas que no valen nada. Sin embargo es obvio por qué el gobierno querrá terminar con ellos.
sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso >>15342having reactionary tendencies might be a sign of crypto-fash in central europe, but not in poor countries or the third world, as in those cases it is just mirroring the mindset of the local working class/peasants. He isnt pandering to rightoids, he is pandering to the average poor/working/rural/indigenous… person in Peru.
Hell, Castillo is a teacher from bumfuck nowhere in Peru, I wouldnt be surprised if he isnt even pretending and is deeply uncomfortable with the Idea of LGBT himself.
Most socialist movements in poor countries weren't paragons of progressive values, just take figures like Che, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh.
>>15351Don't you know he was a fascist? A fascist who proclaims agrarian reform? Who let's and finances coops? Who nationalizes the oil? Who gets close to the USSR and is friend with Castro?
A classic example of fascism you see
>>15350The comparison to Strasserism was not meant literally. I don't see anti-Semitism in his rhetoric. It is just similar that he LARPs as red, while speaking like the darkest reaction.
And no, the USSR, SP and China were not fascist – the latter at least not yet.
socialismSocialism >>15365Cry for me tailist revisionist scum
>>15366Keyword, SMALL. You seem to be in agreement with me.
sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso >>15367The one in the freezer calls agaisnt the one that has at least power and fights imperialism everyday to not collapse to reaction.
Amazing
>>15368Yeah, that's why the Lgbt collective end up supporting him, the other side is the farright christian sects and that just will make their lives misserable-
>>1537030 years anon, 30 years
>>15370>quality over quantityah, yes, wouldn't it be because your ideology is unwanted, perhaps?
lol the quality attracts quantity, without support, how you sustain the democratized labor forces you have and stop capitalism backlash?
chavismoChavismo >>15383Timestamp?
I'm not watching one hour of propaganda.
>>15413ok gloria steinham
Are you plesen btw
>>15395
>Yeah, I need a source or evidence on that onehttps://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1401227014422601733took me one minute of googling
>racismcome on now
>>15412Gonzaloism is a cult
A fucking based one
sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso >>15485Some fag implying so.
You saying it's not yet reliable?
>>15494GTFO
>>15495>>15497I NEED MOAR
pan-africanismPan-Africanism Just came from voting
>>15512Nice
>>155443% margin of error
Quick count with 1% margin in 4 hours
>>155543% margin error
In 2016 they failed
>>15555Oh for sure. I’m hopeful but idk bros
>>15558Well, American pollsters
>>15564The poll is live in channel 4 America TV. I think about doing a cytube but nah, too much effort
https://youtu.be/bo2iYV2UOpMIf you rewind like 11 minutes you can watch the exit poll (boca de urna)
>>15566Because he hates your freedom and want you dead, of course! You should vote for the
right side instead, Peru anons.
naziNazi >>15574Idk i re-read this with different interpretations each time. We just need to wait longer for the final results.
Does voting work or not in bourge run states? In the US it would seem it doesnt for major issues but I guess south america had some success in getting socialists elected, or is this not true?
>>15580I agree with the first half, but what makes you say revolution won't work in the first world? Because it would get stomped before it happens?
I AM LITERALLY SEETHING IRL BY THE WAY >:(((We can take it to QTDDTOT if this question will derail.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>15581In the original pink wave the others (who as others have pointed out, the so called pink wave had a lot of heads and thoughts) who lost elections or where couped (soft or in one case an army one)
>Paraguay (congress coup to Lugo)>Brazil (congress coup to Dilma)>Chile (Bachelet)>Uruguay (Pepe Mujica and Tabare Vasquez)>Argentina (Cristina loses to Macri)>Nicaragua (the crisis of 2017)>El Salvador (The FMNL loses to Bukele)>>15582If the french army menaces JVPITER imagine how they would act against Melechon, or the menaces that were directed towards Corbyn. The other side is that when they are elected in the first world they are elected in watered down platforms that doesn't solve the economic roots of the problem (Someone could post IN THE OTHER SUPPOSED THREAD the image of the betrayals of Euro Socdems to socialsim)
>>15583I didn't understand it well but this is the ballotage or second round.
>>15585Fujis argue that the head of the Electoral Jury was proCastillo, and journos (allegedly ProCastillo) argued that the head of the National Office of Elections was proKeiko.
I'm waiting for the fast count at least.
>>15590That is the exit poll, the official one or the fast count hasn't been released yet.
This is what I got
>>15584That would be because of imperialism. First world countries can get by having service industry workers that can be sent home during covid because the goods they consume come so cheaply from exploited countries.
That's why increasingly I am seeing the important of countries like peru socializing.
>>15575That monstrosity only happens in the U.S. in this side of the hemisphere.
>>15592Shit Lima looks too grim. I would move the power out of there if I was Castillo or in one year I'd get couped.
>>15604Holy shit I thought I was the only person that recognized this
This election could get really fucked, especially if Fujimori does glowie ops
>>15616 (me)
disregard I was wrong and retarded
>>15597No, this is more the way cities work. It is easier to have a small shop and believe somehow you are a capitalist, and at the same time you are someone whose last name is Quapetec.
In big cities, if they are also a port, the capital influx is higher, thus, creates a class of those who are closer to the services, money printer, and the benefits of a higher capital influx that truly believe being better than those pesky countrymen. That's the middle class, the petite bourgeoisie, and their brainwashed sub-servants.
In the cities, those who are revolutionary are in the favelas, los barrios, because they see the injustice each day closely.
I can guarantee that Lima results shown are completely related to the Venezuelan influx where they have been brainwashing the Peruvian middle class, and if the media tells you, comparing word by word, even in a phrase of 15 words, that Castillo is Chavez, they would eat that garbage afraid of what their Venezuelans "panas" would tell them, even that Venezuelans migrants give 0 fucks about any country they are at because they left their own.
>>15648>you are not above idpol, castillo will doom the lefts future in peru but """"converted""" polyps don't carenow all conections with MRTA, Shinning path and Narcoterrorists, this is the last nail in the coffin of the dying Peruvian left -wing
>>15646if fidel and maduro really cared about theri people they would stop their stupid system and embrace free market policies instead of prolonging a 10 year humanitarian crisis, late stage socialism/comunism (like lenin) is reached in only 6 years, muh late stage capitalism took 600 years and will return
eurekaEureka >>15659Cuba literally just made 3 covid vaccines and is vaccinating its population and will be sending vaccines to the entire third world. Meanwhile, neoliberal peru has the highest per-capita death rate from covid in the world.
MUH HUMANITARIAN CRISIS
>>15665i am refering to faking them being communists, if you weren't retarded and read in context that would've been obvious to you
but i need toconsider what board i'm on, obviously you can't fucking read
>>15659Ah, yes, we must tolerate the U.S. sanctioning Venezuela and Cuba so they cannot develop socialism. It's like "the stronger and the better must reign" except if someone poses an alternative. In that case, crush them.
And it is somehow Fidel's and Maduro's fault.
COPE.
>>15675lgbtq are more often affected by poverty, they don't support him but his empty false promises as they'd support the majority of them, when the two options on lgbtq questions are shit and this is the difference, then that is what they pick, but it is not a matter of personal liking
alternatively they could have openly attacked him for the gain of you to sperg out over and nothing else
>>15689Se nota la diferencia.
No problem, it's easy to see the difference. The un-intellectual mental gymnastic they execute is easy to spot.
chavismoChavismo >>15697Bros I know that Fujimori basically just wants to whore out her nation to America and keep up shitty Neolib policies that are going to keep annihilating everything, but Castillo isn't waving a gay flag and prefers Tankies
It's over for Communism
>>15706It's the first ballot to be received, mostly from the nearest and electronic votes.
Means quick or rapid count.
If the conteo rapido results are impossible to change, it is considered victory without taking the rest of the votes.
>>15654Hehe, I knew someone putting so invested in doomingposting was a Fuji.
Looks like we got 2 fujis lol The doomer one and Eurekaflag
>>15669>KillsHum, I don't think someone could be this stupid.
FAST COUNT 100%PC:50.1%KF:49.8%Holy shit, the technical tie is real hahahaha
>>15676First the gonzaloite, then the LGBT focused anon, and now a visit from 2 fujis. I wanted something chill and got this.
At least I can't complained about being bored.
The technical tie is real lol. The role of the personero (idk how it is said in english, the guy who monitors the vote counting in one station in behalf of one party) role will be of extremely importance.
>>15698Don't atribute conducts from us with polacks anon, there is a rule about that I think.
>>15719The fast count gives Castillo 0.4% of advantage.
The technical tie mantains.
Now is the labour of the party and the personeros to hold the votes.
I wouldn't get too cocky, but oh well. If I had bet on Castillo at the beggining I would have a little fortune.
>>15727The pencil is the first thing a kid uses to learn. It simbolises it, specially in the poor communities where getting a pencil and notebooks are sacrifices from the family,
There is nothing more important than education.
>>15728There are not even elites in Lima lol, I don't have the numbers but I bet that more than 2/3s of the city live in the cliff of poverty
>>15730>Nationalizing the resources>Giving the people one of the fastest growing economies of latam>Supporting antiimperialist countries all over the worldTrot moment, not withouth reason but trot nontheless
>>15737You can win with 1 vote (in a true tie the tradition is a cointoss) but that means that the margin of error can fuck with any of the two.
>>15736My electrical company already supplies all their energy needs.
We can sort this out like gentlemen, or, get into some good old-fashioned gangster shit.
porkyPorky >>15727Castillo is a schoolteacher and the party is big on public education for poor people. Picture from Cuba! Castillo in practice is probably going to govern more like Evo Morales though I think, he talks about nationalizations one second, but in reality I think it'll probably be like renegotiating contracts with mining firms so a greater share of the profits go to the Peruvian state sector.
It makes sense from a strictly economic point of view. Copper prices are at a record high and Peru is a huge copper exporter.
>>15753>r/PeruA common trend:
Allegedly some persons with hundreds of "cedulas" (gov ids, similar to social security number) apparently going to vote for Pero Libre, Castillo's party. But that's the media accusation, not a single video from the captured guy. Seems more like a false-flag to accuse Castillo of fraud and create a fake narrative.
And the morons are eating the b8.
>>15762Hum, depends in if the rice is just white rice or Green rice with chicken. In the last case it could be considered a double (a combo of foods vendors sell in markets, mixing ceviche, the said green rice and Salsa a la Huancaina)
Visit Peru! (Now there are no turists in the inka ruins lol)
>>15782One year less in jail is one year less in kail. The second one is a banger
>>15786No. It's too unpopular and if he doesn't prove he is diying (terminally ill) he can't ask for a pardon.
>>15291>glowzalosayy lmao
>>15728death to the middle ground
>>15749post of the year all year every year
>>15791I think they let her out a few years ago and she's back in the U.S.
Lori Berenson
>>15811It's a crime to be bored in this country.
>>15813I left FB a long time ago so I don't have access to those.
The Padrinos Magicos episode about it gets mined a lot.
>>15811I think it is because the Incan roots have some sort of proud force among them, who knows.
They wrote the Planctus Indium Christianorum, which is basically a protoindependentist dissertation made by Incans asking to the catholic church from the Spaniards for their wrongdoing saying to the church it was anti-christian what spaniards were doing to them.
>>15816Yeah that's pretty weird now that I think about it, who
is God's mother?
>>15816A department (province)
Most places that doesn't sound spanish enough have a translation in Quechua, plus there is "the freedom" and "Saint Martn" (in honor to a black monk who did miracles in the colony).
Some examples of the quechua ones:
>AyacuchoLand of the dead
>ApurimacLaughing lord (mister)
>ArequipaHere we stay/loud trumpet
I don't know quechua myself so I can't explain more.
>>15821Many thanks anon, many thanks.
>>15823the virigin Mary according to the catholic Church-
>>15512>>15792holy crap lois
>>15796HOLY CRAP LOIS like that one time I was elected president of Peru
and was couped soon afterwards>>15813noice
>>15837thank you anon
edit: wow 20 (you)s thanks so much guys
>>15831Peruvanons can probably explain them better, but I read some interesting descriptions here:
>Incidentally, [Keiko] Fujimori openly defines herself as right-wing. Like her father, Alberto, Keiko represents a brand of right-wing populism — fujimorismo is probably the first major political force in Peru to use a populist discourse, confronting the people as an undifferentiated whole against the political establishment.
>Economically, Fujimori is mercantilist, in the sense that she promotes private enterprise but not necessarily competitive markets. Basically, it’s a capitalist model based on companies gaining market shares through political contacts. In that same sense, Fujimori represents the kinds of business interests that prefer to remain in the shadows, leading some to describe fujimorismo as a mafia-like phenomenon.https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/06/pedro-castillo-peru-libre-keiko-fujimori-runoff-election-june-6-neoliberalismAlso this article points out he wiped out the national bourgeoisie, who were a product of Juan Velasco Alvarado's national development strategy. Velasco was a pro-Soviet and pro-Cuban military dictator in the late 60s / 70s, another total fluke situation, like "revolution from above" which came to power in a coup, and was also overthrown in a coup. Some of Castillo's supporters will have portraits of Velasco at his rallies.
>Alberto Fujimori oversaw one of the most pervasive and predatory neoliberal regimes in Latin America. Facing a deep economic crisis, skyrocketing inflation, a mounting terrorist offensive from the bloody and sectarian PCP-Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path) guerrilla insurgency, widespread social discontent, and popular mobilization, Fujimori adopted a two-pronged strategy: an IMF-inspired “economic stabilization program” and a counterinsurgency campaign informed by the Cold War “national security doctrine.”
>In a now-familiar pattern that Naomi Klein has described as “disaster capitalism,” Fujimori announced a severe austerity program — known as “Fujishock” — a few days after taking office in early August 1990. The package eliminated price subsidies and social spending while drastically raising interest rates and taxes.
>A majority of Peruvians were thrown into absolute poverty, and only 8 percent of the adult population remained fully employed. Farmers in the tropical valleys on the eastern slopes of the Andes turned to growing coca as a way to survive.
>Fujimori also introduced new legislation that allowed employers to fire striking workers, eliminated job security, and curtailed collective bargaining. Land reform was overturned, paving the way for the establishment of massive new estates. A banking law deregulated interest rates and opened the financial sector to foreign investment. State-owned mining and oil companies, ports, railroads, airports, power plants, and public airlines were slated for privatization.
>The legislative onslaught was coupled with an authoritarian turn. In rural areas, military “death caravans” raped, tortured, and executed citizens; college professors and students disappeared from dormitories; peasant villagers were corralled into strategic hamlets; thousands of citizens endured daily police harassment and arbitrary detentions; journalists, lawyers, and relatives of alleged subversives were executed, arrested, or disappeared.https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/07/keiko-fujimori-fujimorismo-peru-kucynski-mendoza >>15832RUH ROH!
post moar on >>>/b/>>15841For once we're with the ruralfags?
t. american
>>15841She's sooooooo fucked.
This is going to b a 60%-40%.
RAAAARRRG, I don't like to make predictions, but I am calling it.
>>15843The first votes counted are from the capital, I repeat.
Last time Porky got first and later fell when the non-Lima vote was counted. So one can expect the same
>>15845I wish it was a 60% but I'm not sure. That's too much man.
>>15844Castillo got 60% of rural votes in the last poll I checked. (Now he get's from 60-almost 90% in provinces) So I won't make predictions.
>>15265LMAO
uygha Russians like Stalin, even some ex-Warsaw countries like Stalin, no one in Peru likes the Shining Path
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