Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:04:40 No. 23537
Truly being a "vassal state" for China is a worse fate than being an economic colony for a puppet regime.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:05:08 No. 23538
>>445944 Can someone do the Jeb! meme over that
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:05:43 No. 23539
>>23535 >if the us doesn't imperialism there will just be bloodbaths everywhere omg
someone layer the vaush audio over the rumsfeld video just above it. will be hard to know it's not him.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:07:22 No. 23542
>>446024 >implying the local population wasn't in with the islamists it was a failed project regardless
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:07:40 No. 23543
So Vaush confirmed glow at this point?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:08:21 No. 23544
Years ago already.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:08:25 No. 23545
>>23541 >redmongrels neckbeard profile pic
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:13:09 No. 23549 >>23541
They're not wrong, but I bet these are the same people who would support Islamic rebels in Xinjiang because of "muh weegurs."
>That last comment
My Gott. That's got to be at least 100 TeraZizeks.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:15:00 No. 23551
all religion must be forcefully purged
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:19:39 No. 23553
Lmao, someone pls do this
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:20:13 No. 23554
And a few M4 rifles on the table. No fucking manors.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:20:54 No. 23555
It's already been done, I saw it on twitter last night
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:21:40 No. 23556
I wonder what kind of paradise of gender equality these geniuses imagine Afghanistan is right now. Yea women will be oppressed under the taliban regime. But they already controlled a bunch of territory before and I haven't seen much convincing evidence that the (also Islamist) US backed regime was making much progress on gender equality (as if the occupation/nation building project had anything to do with gender equality in the first place). But these are the same retards who get so horny they demand the US bomb Iran once a month every time a CIA agent posts a 1970's picture of Iranian girls in bikinis or whatever.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:23:15 No. 23557
Has there been any kino from the takeover?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:24:05 No. 23558
>>23556 >Yea women will be oppressed under the taliban regime. But they already controlled a bunch of territory before and I haven't seen much convincing evidence that the (also Islamist) US backed regime was making much progress on gender equality (as if the occupation/nation building project had anything to do with gender equality in the first place).
thats because afghanistan is still a mostly rural nation. The urban areas in Kabul have women living a mostly western lifestyle, not wearing burqas and going to college, some even in exchange in the USA, etc. But thats like 1% of the population as opposed to the 99% of traditional rural afghans
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:24:24 No. 23559
no, because the government gave up without much fighting
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:31:13 No. 23562
The women against the Taliban already fled to DC with onlyfans money
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:32:14 No. 23563
Why are ruralfags always so bitter at urban people living their life the way they want?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:37:05 No. 23565 >>23557
Other than this… no
This wasnt like 1996 where people where dragged behind cars and hung from lampposts
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:37:30 No. 23566 https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/taliban-spokesman-tells-bbc-that-women-and-girls-will-still-have-access-to-education-v623d2878
A Taliban spokesman has told the BBC that the group “will respect rights of women” when it takes control of Afghanistan, as they enter Kabul with the previous regime reportedly getting prepared to concede power.
A spokesperson for the Taliban, Suhail Shaheen, told BBC News: “We will respect rights of women…our policy is that women will have access to education and work, to wear the hijab.”
This is despite reports on Saturday (14 August) that women were sent home from their jobs in fallen provinces, and told to leave universities in some instances.
Posting the vid here so you don't have to go to the site.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:39:36 No. 23567 >>23563
because social conservatism serves the needs of the rural political economy better as it is based on farming, for which a patriarchal family is best suited and integral to the reproduction of that type of life.
Urbanization exerts a strong secularizing effect on the population regardless of culture.
In fact how bohemian/liberal or conservative a country is, is almost entirely a function of it's average population density and level of development. Highly developed, highly urban societies are the most libertine and permissive.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:46:53 No. 23570
In 20 years were going to see Kabul gay prides and the first trans lesbian emira
Climate change and overpopulation (80 mil by 2050, more people moving to cities) will shift this dynamic
Maybe things will really turn out better this time
I doubt it
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:48:08 No. 23571
kek the reason they managed to hold out is the because the locals supported them and the 'government' was basically willing to hand over power, stop deluding yourself
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:49:40 No. 23572
See the other post. 70s and 80s Afghanistan was simply too rural.
People act like Afghanistan was this libertine feminist paradise (same shit with Iran) but that was mostly just Kabul, everyone else were illiterate rural subsistence farmers and goat herders
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:57:34 No. 23574
White genocide is coming, bucko.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 16:59:26 No. 23575
Soviet afghanistann lasted 3 years after soviets withdrew. US-led lasted exactly 3.5 months after the start of the withdrawl, and will collapse the day the last US soldier is gone.
If the US hadn't funded islamic fundamentalism, Afghanistan would've been a much better place.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:01:08 No. 23576
>>23572 >that was mostly just Kabul
Do you swallow the propaganda that Israel is a haven for queer people too?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:06:51 No. 23577
Do you even know what I'm talking about? Would you rather have a fundamentalist islamic regime instead of an actual socialist state?
Since the site came back it has been nothing but radlib posting.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:09:02 No. 23578
Fuck off imperialist
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:09:36 No. 23579
So you are saying they won because…. they had a good strategy, local support, they outlasted and the enemy ran off? Umm, duh, yes, that's called winning.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:09:55 No. 23580
>>445996 lmao where is this from?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:10:07 No. 23581
but but my wholesome chungus salafists, islam is so progressive, stop being bigoted
Atheism and critique of religion is a core tenet of all leftist projects.
Taliban only exists due to the imperialism of the US. False flagging uighur, gtfo.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:11:05 No. 23582
if you call afghans "goat fuckers" you can't act surprised if some people mistake you for a /pol/tard or le based nazbol. im not even saying "don't use slurs", just don't cry about it when it predictably makes people think you're a racist empire baby.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:11:21 No. 23583
Truly you are an asset to the site and not at all the type of person who ruined /leftypol/.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:11:30 No. 23584
Yankee status: gone 'home'
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:12:52 No. 23585
Some of the Mujahideen / Taliban are actual goat fuckers though.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:13:47 No. 23587
>>23581 >Taliban only exists due to the imperialism of the US
The Taliban exists because of Soviet imperialism you fucking braindead
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:14:44 No. 23588
Different poster, buddy. If you weren't retarded you would have know this.
Stay of the site for a couple of years, until you've worked an honest days labour and cured your dead brain.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:15:26 No. 23589
>>23587 >Soviet imperialism
This had better be bait.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:15:44 No. 23590
>>23587 < Soviet < imperialism
Which built schools, hospitals, improved standards of living, improved the country's productive base, upheld a socialist revolution in the country, etc.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:15:52 No. 23591
and some refugees rape women, but if you throw around the term "rapefugees" like a /pol/tard you don't get to act surprised when people mistake you for one
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:19:42 No. 23595
except they did nothing of that in afghanistan you didpshit
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:20:02 No. 23596
I could argue that Bolsheviks revolution in Russia was thanks to a imperialistic Kraut intel op to destabilize the Russian empire by smuggling Lenin and his comrades back to Russia from exile.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:20:04 No. 23597
The US imperialism is weak! The one we should be agaisnt is the soviet socioimperialism!
Support the struggle of UNITA!
Support the struggle of the Khmer Rouge!
Support the struggle of the Muhayiddin!
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:20:28 No. 23598
I bet their plans are more competent than the clownshow we got running in the North West.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:21:42 No. 23599
>>23592 >they built schools, hospitals, improved standards of living, improved the country's productive base
Lmao, none of that happened under the US.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:22:41 No. 23600
>>23577 >Would you rather have a fundamentalist islamic regime instead of an actual socialist state?
An actual socialist state of course, and I'm in Kabul right now and I've got a 10-point plan that I'm going to present to the Taliban in about 15 minutes now hey what the~ *group of angry dudes grab me and throw me in a van*
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:24:13 No. 23602
CIA: there existed only one, industrial empire and it was Soviet Russia.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:27:33 No. 23603
One of these is monopolist finance capital developing only what is necessary to facilitate profit while ensuring the standard of living remains low enough to keep wages cheap, while the other is the developing of a revolutionary state for the purpose of the further export of the revolution. These are not comparable, and one is flat out not imperialism. Revolution, particularly communist revolution, should involve you invading countries. Wherever there exists a working class, that place is for communists to integrate and lay claim to, and no contrived "border" should ever impede that.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:28:22 No. 23605 >>23590
Newsflash there's no upside to being a foreign occupier.
Building a cheesy library doesn't make up for a laundry list of crimes.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:29:19 No. 23606
Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify warmongering and imperialism
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:30:40 No. 23608
Haha thank you anon
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:33:09 No. 23609
>>23605 >Newsflash there's no upside to being a foreign occupier.
But there is. This isn't debatable, you live in a world where all of your predecessors seized everything they saw as the rightfully their "nations" and formed the nation-states you know of today. And that involved occupation. I am against capitalist occupation because it is against my interests. I am for socialist occupation because it expands the breadth of the revolution and increases the total power of the working class.
>Building a cheesy library doesn't make up for a laundry list of crimes.
What crimes? None on my list.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:33:39 No. 23610
the recent events have made me fully appreciate china for putting muslims and all other religious fags in their fucking place, full, unconditional support to comrade xi to eliminate this filth
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:34:41 No. 23612
>>23606 >Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify warmongering and imperialism
Again, what imperialism? And communists should be "warmongers" against capitalism, as capitalists were warmongers against those before them in the pursuit of their own interests.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:35:39 No. 23615
His ilk doesn't read. He learns simply by hearsay.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:35:41 No. 23616
Afghanistan urban population for 2020 was 10,131,490, a 3.41% increase from 2019.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:36:41 No. 23617
What, no Osprey update?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:37:39 No. 23618
The power transition in Kabul was more peacefull then the american presidential transition
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:37:40 No. 23619
thats still only 1/3rd. it would have to be above half, even the US is 75%-80% urban/non rural and it's still incredibly conservative
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:38:34 No. 23620
It isn't even relevant to the initial point. It's pure bad statistics and assuming hyperbole.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:38:44 No. 23621
I just hope they focus on development
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:39:08 No. 23622
The chinese met with the taliban and are signaling that they wanna have a diplomatic and economic relations you retard
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:40:11 No. 23623 >>23612
I'm not sure a warmongering socialist empire is better than capitalist warmongerers. And real talk, the Taliban probably aren't materially worse than current government. The fundamentalism is not good obviously but it's not realistic any government can exist outside of that framework that isn't a puppet government.
Instead you have people swallowing American propaganda getting blasted across cable news in terms of how evil the Taliban are and boo hoooooo when they're just for most part normal people with normal motivations trying to liberate their country from invaders who have maimed and killed their families for two decades. Like legit, no matter how backward Taliban fundamentalism is, Soviet or American invaders are still the bad guys.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:41:09 No. 23624
Uh, what's Afghan equivalent of "Rice Status"?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:42:55 No. 23625
also china isn't putting "all religious fags in their place". if you believe that you're unironically regurgitating state dept propaganda.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:50:22 No. 23627
The Talibs are not going as loconuts fundamentalist as before (women can walk on streets without men and go to school)
My main criticism of the Taliban is that they conduct a neo-feudal agricultural policy, and are extremely oppressive and rent-seeking. They do not seek to advance the country.
The Taliban was not the only movement that arose in the post-soviet vacuum, yet they're the ones that got the US support, got the arms passed down from the Mujahadeen.
China supported its own rebels, much of the islamic world supported other factions.
We've yet to see what the Taliban plans to do. But if they start kicking out non-Pashtuns and ramp up the fundamentalism, the exploitation, I hope you eat your hat.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:52:05 No. 23630
If the Taliban bring peace to Afghanistan who gives a fuck if they make women wear blankets?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:54:45 No. 23631
even without any special affinity for the USSR the equivalence between the US and Soviet interventions is a false one. A brief look at a map is all it takes to understand why. Even if you say "Oh, the USSR was meddling, the government that asked them for assistance was illegitimate" and so on (and the events surrounding the start of the war
a clusterfuck), realistically the USSR looked to Afghanistan defensively. If Afghanistan is a NATO-Islamist alliance sort of place then that puts the bordering SSRs at risk. This is much less true of America, which is 12,000 kilometers and an ocean away. (Indeed, you can work back from here into Afghanistan's history, where Britain took an interest in the region because it could give the Russian Empire a path down to India! Geography!)
Furthermore it's worth remembering the extent of foreign aid given to anti-Soviet forces. The situation was not purely one of an illegitimate Soviet occupation fought off by the brave Mujahideen (to whom this post is dedicated), but also one of a US Proxy-Soviet conflict and indeed a China Proxy-Soviet conflict. (This is also true of some extent at the present, where anti-US forces obviously get some foreign aid, but there's no power doing that on anywhere near the scale of support that anti-Soviet forces got.)
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:55:10 No. 23632
i guess peace is better than war. Afghanistan is still too underdeveloped and rural to organically and not by force support womens rights to that level anyway. It could only be sustained by force of US occupation
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:57:22 No. 23633
>>23623 >I'm not sure a warmongering socialist empire is better than capitalist warmongerers.
It's not an "empire", and it entirely is. There is no other consequential alternative other then communism, and the only other choice for all of us is mutual ruin. Therefore, there is no means to great in the pursuit of the revolution.
>And real talk, the Taliban probably aren't materially worse than current government. The fundamentalism is not good obviously but it's not realistic any government can exist outside of that framework that isn't a puppet government.
Define "puppet government". Was the socialist government of the past merely a "puppet government" for you? And I never made an argument on the Taliban being materially worse or not, it will likely be worse for some demographics and "better" for others. Certainly doesn't make them all around better.
>Instead you have people swallowing American propaganda getting blasted across cable news in terms of how evil the Taliban are and boo hoooooo
Liberals are complaining because they are liberals, and their position is that of the US maintaining it's "place" in the world. It has nothing to actually do with the people, or with our issues as communists with groups like the Taliban.
>when they're just for most part normal people with normal motivations trying to liberate their country from invaders who have maimed and killed their families for two decades.
>Like legit, no matter how backward Taliban fundamentalism is, Soviet or American invaders are still the bad guys.
American invaders? Yes. Soviet invaders? No. The difference is the end goal, and that's all that matters.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:57:46 No. 23634
There was never any imperialism, even in the vulgar sense of "military invasion" which you are erroneously using. The USSR, as the vanguard of the world socialist revolution, was performing its internationalist duty to support the struggle of the Afghan people and their socialist representative the PDPA against domestic reaction and foreign intervention by Pakistan and USA. The PDPA government increased average wages by 50% in their first 3 years, abolished payment for water, abolished the feudal land system, built roads and railroads, and enacted dozens of progressive social reforms. The reactionary terrorists with the support of US weapons destroyed thousands of schools, hundreds of mosques, dozens of hospitals, murdered hundreds of peace activists, and murdered thousands of socialists.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 17:59:04 No. 23635
You guess? Fucking retard, who cares women's rights when your country is being raped?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:01:51 No. 23638
It's manned by marines, though. They'd probably get your order wrong.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:02:14 No. 23639
"Afghanistan" is not a country, and using that word is imperialist. Nothing called "Afghanistan" existed until some retard 1000 miles away drew it on a map.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:03:56 No. 23640
That is an idiotic statement.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:05:16 No. 23643
>>23642 >Afghan Empire includes most of Pakistan
At last… Ένωσις…
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:07:18 No. 23644
I wish. I want burgeruyghurs to be mowed down and their dead bodies seld off by taliban
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:07:29 No. 23645
You're kind of making his point here. This is like arguing Rome was the nation-state of Italy, besides "Italy" as a nation (in the traditional sense) not even existing at the time. Empires are not the same as nation-states, they are very distinct.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:07:46 No. 23646
>Failed regime change in HK >Failed regime change in Cuba >Failed coup in Venezuela >Failed coup in Bolivia >Military defeat/withdrawal in Afghanistan How they became this incompetent in so little time?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:08:24 No. 23647
Almost happened but then Saur Revolution occurred and Pakistan became hostile to the idea (they were US aligned)
PCTE guy 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:09:07 No. 23648
>>23643 >The taliban conquer Pakistan. >REEEE CACHEMIRA. >The taliban has the pakistani nukes.
PCTE guy 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:10:33 No. 23649
Dunno why I said it in spanish lmao.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:11:53 No. 23650
The funny thing is China isn't even "supporting" most of these the way the USSR supported them.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:14:13 No. 23651
The USSR kind of forced the western world to try and get its shit together to oppose it and counter any perceived revolution fomenting abroad. As such, the US and its allies got really proficient in their couping and regime change, because at the end of the day capitalism survival as a whole depended on it. Now we're in the "bonus round" of imperialism, where its more of a further addition rather then an immediate fight to survive, and that leads to lethargy and incompetence.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:22:48 No. 23652
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:38:24 No. 23654
Yes but people wanted to live the way the prophet Muhammad lived 1500 years ago and that didn't include space flights, education or human rights.
This is what islamic fundamentalism and "muh social-imperialism bad" gets you.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:41:31 No. 23655
the war ends when the mcdonalds falls
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:49:52 No. 23656
is this the fault of biden or trump
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:53:11 No. 23658
You're seeing the fall of the empire in real time, kiddo.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:53:20 No. 23659
the US war was always a lost war - ever since the US supercharged the rural afghanis with weapons and equipment to stop any progress the USSR was trying to make in modernizing the country, the political mode of afghanistan has been rule by armed rural peasants. that the US thought they could stop the beast they created is funny.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 18:56:15 No. 23660
The Embassy has been abandoned | McDonalds is lost
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:05:11 No. 23662
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:10:41 No. 23667
And you writing this like 10k miles away will change this?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:13:52 No. 23668
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:14:06 No. 23669
The USSR was invited by the legit Afghan government by the time, so eat dicks, you piece of garbage.
Oh, so you love Maoist China :v
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:16:43 No. 23670
20 years of NATO + Chinese multilateral relationships, I will give them a small chance to see what's going on, you intense radlib who won't whistle a little if the U.S. funds another group of terrorist militia through your own taxes.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:17:33 No. 23672
If it was so legitimate then why did it get overthrown?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:19:14 No. 23673
bc legitamicy is a abstract juridiscal concept with no power in the material world?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:19:23 No. 23674
It’s funny how it was the U.S. invasion/occupation which finally gave the Taliban their total victory. Prior to the U.S. entry the Taliban did not control the northern areas but now they control everything.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:20:14 No. 23677
The communist Afghan governments major fuck ups in land reform and secularisation also a US backed Islamist group.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:20:21 No. 23678
Ok so why do you give a shit what muh legitimate government was. They lost and thus were defeated and made irrelevant
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:22:29 No. 23679
If you have the best intentions and still get murdered you are still dead. Nobody will mourn a loser except other losers.
The Afghan socialist project/government lost all viability and legitimacy when it's dignitaries were murdered like feminine cowards and filled dishonored graves. Stop valorizing losers
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:22:47 No. 23680
just bc they were defeated doesnt majke them irrelevant the events of the best lay like an alp onto the minds of the living
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:23:12 No. 23681
there's a need to specify the reasons behind USSR's intentions. Social imperialism is just a pure shit-talking points.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:24:40 No. 23684
>>23679 >The Afghan socialist project/government lost all viability and legitimacy when it's dignitaries were murdered like feminine cowards and filled dishonored graves
The USSR was there to avoid that, you dumbfuck.
>>23679 >Stop valorizing losers >projection
No one said VIVA LA USSR in their Afghanistan war.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:26:30 No. 23685
Ospreys never change.
I mean, withdrawals, withdrawals never changes.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:29:15 No. 23686
>>23596 >I could argue that Bolsheviks revolution in Russia was thanks to a imperialistic Kraut intel op to destabilize the Russian empire by smuggling Lenin and his comrades back to Russia from exile.
NTA, but these are not comparable. Lenin never actually worked with the German government or received material backing to do so. What would become the Taliban did from the US though. The Russian revolution was against the Tsar and inevitably concluded in communists eventually taking power. The insurgency against the Afghan government was a war against communism, and concluded in the communist government being lost and Islamic fundamentalists taking power.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:29:56 No. 23687
Oh, fuck. I was thinking in Half-Life. This ain't osprey, but chinooks.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:33:14 No. 23688
lol they used one of the same chinooks to evac in kabul as they did in saigon
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:34:07 No. 23690
This has to be bait.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:34:27 No. 23691
kek, this is going very beyond what Washington could ever imagine.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:36:03 No. 23692
Hey guy, if I try to give you 1,000 Euro to improve your life and on the way over I get hit by a car and some dude steals the cash off my body then I lost, am dead, and my intentions didn't matter
Results are ALL THAT MATTERS. THE USSR LOST. It no longer exists! So spending all our time jerking off to a literal corpse instead of thinking about where they fucked up and moving on aint gonna fix shit
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:37:35 No. 23693
read a book intentions arent material reality the USSR was thats why they matter and they will matter
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:38:10 No. 23694
Time for Chinese Imperialism to take over Afghanistan, great development!
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:39:32 No. 23695
Bilal Abdul Kareem livestream talking about the taliban victory get in here fellas
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:40:20 No. 23696
So many lies and misconceptions in one short minute
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:41:28 No. 23697
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:43:53 No. 23698
For his argument to work, you must believe that the natural state of Afghans (and the citizens of any other target country) is savagery, and that only an external (White, American) civilizing force can bring order and peace.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:46:29 No. 23700
Even if you hate China (I don't think they're a socialist country), having them build infrastructure in return for some cheap natural resources (and a promise from the taliban to not support ETIM/TIP separatists) seems preferable to having the Americans drop bombs there all day every day until the end of time. China actually has an interest in stability in the region, the US doesn't.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:47:10 No. 23701
Watch them declare the refoundation of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in a huge public event on September 11th in a huge twist of irony lol.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:47:59 No. 23702
Them talibans or USnites?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 19:56:47 No. 23704
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/unworthy-victims-western-wars-have-killed-four-million-muslims-1990 >from 10 years of the “War on Terror” since the 9/11 attacks is at least 1.3 million >the much-disputed Lancet study that estimated 655,000 Iraq deaths up to 2006 (and over a million until today by extrapolation) was likely to be far more accurate than IBC’s figures. >PSR concludes that the most likely number for the civilian death toll in Iraq since 2003 to date is about 1 million. >To this, the PSR study adds at least 220,000 in Afghanistan and 80,000 in Pakistan, killed as the direct or indirect consequence of US-led war: a “conservative” total of 1.3 million. The real figure could easily be “in excess of 2 million”. >This means that in Iraq alone, the US-led war from 1991 to 2003 killed 1.9 million Iraqis; then from 2003 onwards around 1 million: totalling just under 3 million Iraqis dead over two decades. >University in Melbourne, Polya concludes that total avoidable Afghan deaths since 2001 under ongoing war and occupation-imposed deprivation amount to around 3 million people, about 900,000 of whom are infants under five. >According to the figures explored here, total deaths from Western interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan since the 1990s - from direct killings and the longer-term impact of war-imposed deprivation - likely constitute around 4 million (2 million in Iraq from 1991-2003, plus 2 million from the “war on terror”), and could be as high as 6-8 million people when accounting for higher avoidable death estimates in Afghanistan.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:03:31 No. 23705
the bipartisan US foreign policy
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:03:52 No. 23706
>>446312 they are gonna build their infraestructure retard there is no reason for them to fight each other
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:05:42 No. 23707
You not voting for the only woman who could have stopped this.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:07:50 No. 23708
The Krauts gave passage to all revolutionaries tho, Lenin wasn’t their puppet he just took advantage, and honestly lol on the Krautoids considering the state Lenin created went on to yeet Germany so hard it went back to being divided
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:08:11 No. 23709
The anti-vax shit isn't even true.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:14:01 No. 23712
So, does that mean they will be making a government-in-exile just like with Belarus?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:15:26 No. 23714
Juan Guido should check this out
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:15:47 No. 23715
Imagine being less reactionary to western medicine, than westerners.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:16:00 No. 23716
>>23692 >instead of thinking about where they fucked up and moving on aint gonna fix shit
This argument has been about where they actually fucked up though. Nobody is saying that the USSR didn't mess up at times, what they are saying is that your particular "issues" with it are invalid and that in those areas you specifically take issue with, the USSR did what was proper.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:17:34 No. 23719
maybe there will be peace this time
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:18:00 No. 23720
Because the US is getting fucked yet again, that is.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:18:50 No. 23721
>>23718 >afghan reactionary
I couldn't care less. Peace is good and even better when most afghans support it. The Taliban is obviously the better choice in this mess.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:19:53 No. 23722 >>23718
Because the US lost and that's a good thing, Talichads are reactionary anti-communist bastards, but at least they keep their shit in Afghanistan instead of trying to export "freedumb" worldwide.
We all want our nogga Najibullah back.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:20:25 No. 23723
>>23541 >the right TV shows will save them
liberalism, not even once
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:21:03 No. 23724
>>23718 >why this is a cause for celebration.
Because it is something close to Saigon 2.0
>b-b-but Vietcongs and Taliban are not even remotely close
But the U.S. army empire in Vietnam is closely related to the U.S. army empire in Afghanistan.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:23:03 No. 23727
we're not really celebrating, nothing "good" is possible there in 2021. it's not like a secular socialist revolution was about to happen. I'm tired of these "but remember to condemn the Taliban!" posts. They are naive
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:24:25 No. 23728
>>446358 no one gives a fuck about uyghurs
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:25:04 No. 23729
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:26:06 No. 23730
>>446361 Feds are getting overworked today, huh?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:26:10 No. 23731
Lowkey support the Taliban over JewmeriKKKa
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:26:27 No. 23732
>>446366 >>446361 Well, of course these are false-flags to annoy those racist, who hate how they call them "sandn!hhers"
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:28:24 No. 23733
Talk for yourelf. I am really happy. Maybe 20 years of NATO would make talibans anti-imperialist at least
I would hope, so, if not, screw them, anyway
, which is already much better than anything what ultra-leftist are doing in the west to overthrow nato imperialism and warmongering.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:30:30 No. 23734
>>446381 This FAGGOT is mad lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:31:02 No. 23735
>>446381 >pol can't even meme, they have to steal memes.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:31:35 No. 23736
All commercial flights in and out of Kabul have been cancelled. U.S. paratroopers have also arrived.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:31:37 No. 23737
Am I too far gone if I unironically support the Taliban purely out of Kissengerianist anti-US realpolitik?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:32:54 No. 23738
Do you send them money or what?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:33:39 No. 23739
i actually basically agree, but you're applying historical contexts that the "good or bad??!?! support or opppose?!" troglodytes aren't.
the statement "this is a good development" makes sense because foreign intervention is part of what made AF so backwards, not because the Taliban "
are universally good
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:34:15 No. 23741
I send prayers and post 'based' online when they do something i like
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:35:31 No. 23742
No of course not, I'm just an online rerard. I would probably send aid if I was in charge of Soviet foreign policy or sth though.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:35:45 No. 23743
Not having issue with the US being forced into retreat is one thing. "Support" is entirely another. There is zero reason to "support" the Taliban, it's not like you in any way inpact the result regardless.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:40:28 No. 23746
There was a guy on /trv/ on half chan discussing what Kabul is like at the moment. He was a white man stuck in what will soon be taliban territory and now they aren't letting civilians leave. That dude is super wrecked and probably not going to have a decent life ahead of him.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:42:18 No. 23748
He should convert to Islam and marry a qt Afghan girl.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:42:31 No. 23750
If it’s that British guy, the last update is that he found British troops at the airport with whom he is now staying.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:42:46 No. 23751
I always found it pretty shameful how the western countries will pull out all their own people and leave everyone else to die.
Not that this is as bad as Rwanda but it's pretty fuckin bad.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:43:28 No. 23752
Why was the US in Afghanistan anyway?
I honestly know nothing about it. How was porky profiting from it
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:43:31 No. 23753
That's good to hear. Lord Miles should be protected.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:45:34 No. 23755
AF has used untapped mineral deposits, it's also important geopolitically in regards to China's BRI and general regional hegemony. The US will take any excuse to go occupy a poor country
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:45:53 No. 23756
These are probably the few people keeping alive the past government. Afraid they get either prosecuted or directly executed.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:45:56 No. 23757
>>446410 calm down, /pol/
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:47:57 No. 23758
Yeah this shit is blackpilling, people will literally support imperialism to get more material to destroy themselves with through masturbation. From /pol/tards to progressive liberals.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:48:16 No. 23759
Agency TASS, from Al Jazeera, reports that ex-president Ghani is already in Uzbekistan, jumped from Tajikistan.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:48:33 No. 23760
Opium is also a reason.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:48:50 No. 23761
Listen Jack, I don't like no Agathastan. When I was a lad my auntie Gurtie would sit me down for those Agathastani stories like the Parrot fella and the… uh… mr, no sorry to any transit folk in the audiance for miss numering, miss… uh, Ravel. And I never liked those who dunnits because the answer is clear who done it - it was presid… ex president Donald Draper and his Romanian handlers. And thats the thing fat you can't sepperate the poors from the whites or else you get gravy as my good friend Srom Thurmer used to say when we impossed the linits on bussing, and thus we can't let the poor Agathanese suffer from the Earthquake over there
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:51:24 No. 23763
Al-Qaeda training camps were there so america went in and obliterated the camps and the government (taliban). During that time, the politicians gained huge sums of money from defense contractors and weapon manufacturers. The companies who supported the war enriched themselves with huge contracts and the US was really close to Iran and had hundreds of thousands of troops right there.
Americans didn't really profit off the opium sales, at least not the american government. I'm sure drug dealers in the US did though.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:52:39 No. 23767
He posted actually photographic evidence that he is in Kabul. He posted like 2 timestamps as well.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:53:43 No. 23768
watching the afghan military completely fall apart in real time was surreal
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:54:51 No. 23769
So what can we learn from this?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:55:18 No. 23770
>>446414 I wonder where all those mujahideen guys in the reagan photo are now.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:55:34 No. 23772
I mean most of them were just in it for a paycheck, and had little or no loyalty to the American occupation government, so why would they fight? They might as well just join up with the Taliban.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:55:37 No. 23773
That soviet backed presidents and regimes are much better and more stable than US backed ones.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:56:26 No. 23775
The real imperialism was the friends we made along the way…
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:57:04 No. 23777
the blacked out screen is the aliens
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:57:50 No. 23779
yeah ofc. Funny how the Iranians got a bunch of equipment from this too cause a bunch of soldiers drove their humvees over to surrender to them lol
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:57:57 No. 23780
as long as your will to fight is not defeated you can win
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:58:07 No. 23781
Countries without the productive forces to maintain higher modes of production will stay at their current one no matter how much money, time, and effort you pump into them.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:58:18 No. 23782
So burgers are sending another 1000 to the Airport, So 6000 troops between the Embassy and Airport. I guess they can start a Vatican city in Kabul.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 20:59:50 No. 23784
They're going to build a wall around it. In fifty years an Afghani president will tell the US president to tear it down and then the US empire will collapse.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:00:03 No. 23785
I'd definitely prefer to throw my lot in with Iran than the Taliban, but that's just me I guess.
Yeah it's good the US is leaving but I've seen a lot of people on the left be a little too gleeful about this, it's not like the Taliban are good guys either.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:00:10 No. 23786
Poppy crops. The best place to cultivate them in the world.
Fair to call it the opium war of the 21st century.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:00:11 No. 23787
They don't really care and knew this would happen. They may have not predicted how fast it would happen but they knew the Taliban would take over. Their only concern is for the Americans still stuck in Kabul. Once they are gone and the other westerners are gone, there will be no more media coverage by the big news organizations.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:01:04 No. 23789
The Taliban existed before the soviets came in. Also, the communist government of Afghanistan existed before the soviets arrived.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:01:22 No. 23790
will pakistan return to its pre invasion stance on the taliban?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:02:23 No. 23791
>>446414 The right one fights against an army which turned her city into an open air prison
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:02:26 No. 23792
I imagine not, they value US support more than trying to do a jihad which only backfired on them last time.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:04:39 No. 23793
This is the typical, retarded pessimism of an infantile ultra.
The situation for the proletariat in Afghanistan has improved tenfold with the fall of the US puppet. If you don't understand how, you don't understand anything.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:05:29 No. 23794
Explain it then, genius.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:06:27 No. 23795
Mr. Kardashian-West, tear down this Wall.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:06:47 No. 23796
peace for afghanistan is good no matter who brings it
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:08:14 No. 23797
No one is disputing that, though. The thing is that Taliban is not really much of an improvement over the previous government and this peace won't last for very long.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:09:22 No. 23799
so kabul has fallen? they said the americans wont be fully evacuated until tuesday or wednesday
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:09:52 No. 23800
the only part of the city that isnt under complete taliban control is the airport
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:10:39 No. 23802
Taliban will let the Americans have their cuck zone and evacuate everyone, pointless to fight them
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:10:54 No. 23803
He will survive and write a best selling novel.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:11:59 No. 23805
forcing women to stop having jobs and wearing miniskirts
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:12:21 No. 23806
Installing a totalitarian sharia theocracy.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:12:23 No. 23807
Run Afghanistan as a theocracy under their control, with some kind of feudal vassalage probably that devolves power to tribal chiefs
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:13:24 No. 23809
muh sharia and probably not much else.
Maybe some faction with more than two braincells in its head will be in power this time and actually develop the country but I'm not banking on it so much.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:14:02 No. 23810
>>23797 >Taliban is not really much of an improvement over the previous government
>this peace won't last for very long
then civil war after long occupation is necessary for eventual stability. more occupation certainly wouldn't do it
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:14:28 No. 23811
The Taliban doesn't have the most powerful bourgeois empire in the world defending it, and it's only possible allies are red China or its friends.
Do you need more spoonfeeding?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:14:53 No. 23812
Govern for like 18 months tops before civil war breaks out.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:16:57 No. 23815
>>23801 >having a mental breakdown? >time to throw a pity party on facebook!
He'll be okay. If he can worry about his mental health he isn't in real danger.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:17:10 No. 23816
>>23797 >this peace won't last for very long
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:17:29 No. 23818
Based china will make Afghanistan a regional power in no time
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:18:21 No. 23819
marrying the prettiest goats in afghanistan
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:18:26 No. 23820
Yeah I don't really see the evidence that there's a civil war incoming, the Taliban by and large has the support of the Afghan people and I'm sure they've been planning what to do after they take over for the last 18 months.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:20:31 No. 23821
exactly and there is literally no nation that will even consider invading them the only possible threat could come from isis but no one likes those retards
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:21:03 No. 23822
Honestly can't wait. The US spends decades shooting shit in the ME, China comes in and aligns everyone to their side voluntary within ten years. It will be glorious.
AusJuche !ZXQDW3xEPE 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:21:30 No. 23823 >>23561 >>23552 >>23548 >>23541
Taliban are pledging that women will be allowed to work, attend school etc under the condition they wear headscarves at a minimum.
tl;dr - looks like absolutely nothing will be changing for the women of Afghanistan.
Taliban natlib is 110% good timeline wholsome poggers confirmed?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:22:14 No. 23824
There's reports that women have been forced to leave work and school in Taliban areas though.
But it's possible that's just COINTELPRO, who really knows.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:22:58 No. 23825
I hope they adhere to this, it would humiliate the US even more if that is possible.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:23:57 No. 23826
The taliban are fucking big chungus redditors confirmed, can't wait until real fundamentalists take over
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:25:50 No. 23828
Taliban went for the semi-blessed arm of their focus tree
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:27:39 No. 23830
The last time the taliban was in power they banned music and destroyed a fuckton of cultural heritage sites and shit.
What makes you think that it won't be the same this time? And no this is not simping for US mutts, I hope the taliban shoots down at least a couple of helis.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:28:11 No. 23832
>>446502 Human rights are reactionary
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:28:35 No. 23834
the good guys lost like 40 years ago, I personally am just glad to see another part of the US' foreign policy implode and backfire on them. Hopefully China and Russia can use soft economic power to develop Afghanistan out of a feudal shithole without needing another war, ever since the US started handing out weapons like candy its been a country ruled by rural insurrectionists more than anything else. Actually, come to think of it, Maoism would probably do wonders in Afghanistan lel
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:28:36 No. 23835
does this embolden russia and china to be more aggressive with ukraine and taiwan
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:29:05 No. 23836
They'll either become neoliberal when they realize that throwing a civil war was retarded or they'll just turn their country into a theocratic shithole where fucking tribal chiefs have clan wars with each other over whose the most reactionary. Shits gonna be fucking funny I hope they dont turn liberal
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:29:37 No. 23838
I don't know a lot of HUEHUE but.
>The victory of a reactionary anti communist islamic fundamentalist guerrilla against an anti communist neoliberal colonial regime is a victory of the entire people.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:30:10 No. 23840
If probably will be the same but if that's what the Afghan people want then how can anyone else impose anything else on them?
Let the Taliban be eroded by exposure to the global markets like everyone else, they will eventually liberalise (in both senses of the word)
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:30:15 No. 23841
Where do they get American weapons? I bet each one has an interesting story
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:30:17 No. 23842
>>446305 Was gay marriage or abortion ever allowed in Afghanistan?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:30:24 No. 23843
Taliban can really be seen more as a Pashtun Supremacist group with Fundamentalist Islam characteristics than a proper Ultra-Islamist organization like Al Qaeda and ISIS. For example, although they claim to follow a very strict interpretation of the Sharia they still preserve many of the pre-Islamic tribal traditions even when they go against Islamic teachings.
The reason they got such massive support currently is for their opposition to the US. Once the US is gone tribal conflicts will take over again and things may very well go out of hand, especially if the living situation still remains dire.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:31:41 No. 23844
they captured literally tons of american ecquipment
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:31:48 No. 23845
Not that interesting.
>issued to Afghan army soldier >immediately abandoned by that soldier when they are asked to fight the Taliban >repeat x80000 >>23843
Yes, that is something a lot of people don't seem to grasp, the Taliban is much more moderate than ISIS, Boko Haram, et cetera.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:32:07 No. 23846
I feel bad for all the kenyans and turks that are gonna have refugees flooding their countries as they take in the most muslim refugees out of any other country
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:35:31 No. 23847
>>23843 >Once the US is gone tribal conflicts will take over again
They kept a good tap on them between 1996 and 2001. And this time they even have the northeastern part under control. Cope.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:35:35 No. 23848
t. poltard butthurted because some brown people show him how his inferior pool genes are.
I don't think a group of militias capable to kick the shit out of the U.S. will bring the country to stone age, because if they wanted to live in the stone age, they would bring stone and sticks to fight drones and cobras. Anyway, Taliban means literally scholar, so they had a root upon studies.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:37:40 No. 23849
>>23830 >The last time the taliban was in power they banned music and destroyed a fuckton of cultural heritage sites and shit.
What makes you think that it won't be the same this time?
Hi, agent Jones, are you hiring for the CIA junior position? I want to work there
totally not to sabotage the U.S. from within
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:39:23 No. 23851
Dude in case you haven't realized the average american marine killed hundreds of taliban fighters with only a couple thousands of marines dead over the course of 20 years. The taliban is disorganized and unprofessional, knowing this makes me fear the kind of hell they'd bring on their muslim brothers if they ever got into power
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:39:54 No. 23852
Well, I hope things really get better this time but as I said before, there actually needs to be an initiative for development before things actually get better. They can't just coast on the hope that Sharia will magically turn their country into an Islamic utopia and expect things to get better.
I'm brown you fucking retard.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:40:49 No. 23853 >>23718
Islamist reactionary retards gonna retard, now we wait until they start committing atrocity after atrocity and make threads about it here and watch the Turd-worldists, Mautists and Islamic """""communists"""" seethe
>>23796 >>23793 >People are already being killed for not following religious beliefs >Peace
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:42:06 No. 23854
Don't care, get rkt/butthurted because some brown people threw out their asses.
>>23852 >I'm brown you fucking retard.
post timestamp with skin, or gtfo you chinlet.
If truly brown, ugh, cipayo.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:42:09 No. 23855
>>23853 >>People are already being killed for not following religious beliefs
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:45:01 No. 23859
reminder that Najibulah held out for 4 years without Soviet support. After trillions of dollars in investment into the Afghan state it falls in like a week
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:46:38 No. 23862
Wars aren't won through K/D ratio faggot, the Americans got tired and went home like bitches, the Taliban withstood terrible casualties because they knew what they were fighting for.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:46:55 No. 23863
That shows you the real astroturf the ghani government had.
kek, never fails, the creatura orco de las americas
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:46:55 No. 23864
Yet that's literally not wrong. These people dont have a plan for what they even want with their own country
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:47:44 No. 23865
>>23849 >Everyone who is not an uncritical turbo simp for the anti-communist Taliban must be a CIA agent
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:49:39 No. 23866
>>23865 >implying I was supporting the taliban
Projecting much? like whenever talk badly about U.S. behavior, do you feel like someone insulting you, or something else perhaps?
still interested in that junior position, Mr. jones
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:52:19 No. 23870
I would have a massive laugh if it wasn't for all the innocent deaths associated with the NATO/US-led Afghan invasion.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 21:57:06 No. 23871
https://www.rt.com/news/532127-taliban-afghan-war-foreign-failure/ <Taliban spokesman says Afghan war is over, militants convinced ‘foreign forces won’t repeat failed experience in Afghanistan’ >The group then vowed to "deal with the concerns of the international community through dialogue."
This is interesting:
<Despite calls from the US and multiple international organizations to seek a political solution with Ghani’s government, the Taliban entered Kabul on Sunday demanding nothing less than the complete transfer of power. Ghani’s abrupt departure took the Taliban by surprise, the spokesman told Al-Jazeera, and following his flight, the president’s former aides were more than willing to set up an easy transition to Taliban rule.
One can speculate why he left without giving a fight. Maybe the U.S. wasn't planning to support the puppet regime anymore?
The alleged butchers and savages:
>“It is my pleasure that I am carrying out the process of handing over the presidential palace to the Taliban militants, and it is my pleasure that this process is carried out without bloodshed,”
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:00:33 No. 23872
Reminder that this is far worse than Saigon. There are still ten thousand or so US civilians in Kabul and the airport is all that remains. They can just start shelling the runway or cut off electricity to the airport if they are brutal terrorists. Or they can allow them to evacuate for the moral high ground.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:03:36 No. 23873
US will bomb the shit out of them if they attack the airport. It's not only for 'moral superiority'.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:04:44 No. 23874
They have been bombing the shit out of them and it hasn't worked so far
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:05:26 No. 23875
Those guys aren't afraid of bombings, u kno'?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:07:33 No. 23876
Well, if international recognition is on the table, I don't think that is happening.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:16:31 No. 23878
Was thinking this exactly is what will happen.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:16:50 No. 23879
oh fuck godspeed anon
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:16:56 No. 23880
It worked enough to scare them into the mountains. Not enough to obliterate them. You have to remember the invasion in 2001 toppled the taliban government. They still existed just in rural areas, while the urban cities were dominated by the Northern Alliance and the US. The Taliban won't shell the airport and start killing US soliders/civilians because it will result in the immediate reversal of their situation. They will be forced to retreat to the mountains again.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:17:15 No. 23881
CNN: US Only Flew Out 400 out 4500 embassy staff on Sunday. Got a long a week ahead stranded in an airport.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:19:49 No. 23882
This reminds me of the scene in Joker when the midget wants to get out but can't leave the apartment because can't reach the door lock and sobs asking to get the door open.
PCTE guy 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:20:40 No. 23883
They lied about the amount of deads actually, both the afghan goverment and the us goverment.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:23:44 No. 23884
just like 4000 americans crying and shitting themselves in a closed mcdonalds in the middle of kabul
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:31:23 No. 23886
You do understand that's HOW a guerrilla war works right? Holding out and being a nuisance, gaining support of the population, and outlasting the enemy until they lose the will to continue the occupation? Make it expensive enough that the accountants decode it's not worth continuing.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:33:07 No. 23887
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:36:08 No. 23889
It will always be true in our hearts.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:36:10 No. 23890
wonder how long it will be before we see chinese kids dying in stanland
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:36:50 No. 23891
Also kinda funny that it's nearly 50 years later and they're still using the Chinook.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:38:12 No. 23892
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:40:40 No. 23893
Say what you will about Islamic fundamentalism, dude, but at least it's an ethos. The bacha bazi warlords have no ideology, only money and power. That's why they fell so easily.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:40:49 No. 23894
tfw you think china wants to invade afghanistan.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:41:02 No. 23895
Taliban spokesperson on BBC World stated that they will be open for business with the US and western companies.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:49:05 No. 23898
Chinooks, chinooks never change.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:49:24 No. 23899
UNSC will assemble tomorrow, with Russia likely to support intervention.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:50:54 No. 23900 >>23580 >>445996 >>445973
The original meme is from Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, which is a game where (among other things) the Russian Federation launches a full scale invasion of the United States after some Russian ultra-nationalists take power. The "Ramirez, secure Burger Town" bit is from the mission "Wolverines."
Every day the real world becomes closer to a parody of itself.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:51:03 No. 23901
The sissified takeover that didn't change shit nor lasted vs the chad takeover that will prevail and changed everything.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:55:13 No. 23903
have the Taliban already seen the light of dengism.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:55:23 No. 23904
lmao I forgot how low down the planes all fly in MW2
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 22:59:01 No. 23906
America, America never learns.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:01:08 No. 23907
Everyone is open for business with the US, lol. Including China and almost all of its allies. Afghanistan would be stupid to voluntarily embargo itself.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:02:34 No. 23908
You got a spare cryopod lying around?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:07:54 No. 23911
Productive forces with Afghan Characteristics. You love to see it!
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:10:03 No. 23912
Afghanistan will be a major economic power in five decades time.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:10:19 No. 23913
A surprisingly dialectical statement from George Lucas.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:13:00 No. 23916
I unironically wish. I haven’t swallowed the deng pill, but if it’s capitalism, it’s a form of capitalism that is a step closer to socialism than neoliberalism.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:27:28 No. 23919
A big problem with Dengist China is that they never try to convert their allies like the US. They’re perfectly happy that their allies are commie killing fascist/feudal despots. If they agree to BRI they’re fine.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:27:54 No. 23920
The taliban flag is much better tbh
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:34:09 No. 23921
their justification for destroying the Buddhas was actually pretty funny
they were like "We were going to leave it alone, but then you fuckers started spending millions of dollars to protect your precious fucking statues while people were starving in the poorest country in the world, so fuck you and fuck your idols, KABOOM motherfucker."
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:36:49 No. 23922
I disagree the Chinese are converting people to their ways, but not with the edge of the sword like the US but by showing example and being a target of admiration.
I also believe that Taliban is one of the "better" radical muslin groups and if BRI and other Chinese investment is allowed to raise the standard of living in Afghanistan it will also change the political views of the afghans themselves and by extension of the Taliban in a way that no amount of foreign occupation could have done.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:39:15 No. 23924
>The British ambassador and Germany embassy staff are reportedly staying behind at Kabul airport to help process visas for Afghan staff who worked for their countries. >NEW: The US military has flown at least 500 Embassy personnel out of Afghanistan on military aircraft, defense officials tell @ckubeNBC. They're working to take 5,000/day, but won’t have that capability for a couple days. are they unironically going to wind up getting flying out under Taliban flags?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:41:28 No. 23925
I like how you retards are complaining about this shit in regards to Afghanistan. It really highlights the complete disregard you "people" have for adapting to historical reality.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:42:42 No. 23927
Yes. It's going to be pretty funny. You have this mass panic before the Taliban takeover, but then they takeover and let them leave anyway.
Like an animal getting released from a trap.
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:44:12 No. 23928
>>23924 >are they unironically going to wind up getting flying out under Taliban flags? >>23927 >Yes. It's going to be pretty funny. You have this mass panic before the Taliban takeover, but then they takeover and let them leave anyway.
Imagine if they didn't tho lmao. Imagine if the taliban just kills everyone. What's the US gonna do, start the war back up again?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:49:54 No. 23929
They could start it back up again, or just opt to conduct a permanent TNO-style bombing campaign on Afghanistan, forever
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:50:55 No. 23930
YOU GOT DUPED AGAIN
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:53:45 No. 23933
Juan Guiado has declared himself Interim President of Afghanistan
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:57:43 No. 23935
>>445966 Kabul was probably his home, with many fond memories there
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:01:14 No. 23936
>>446016 As another anon in the previous thread said, I fucking love it when people who storm government buildings and sit in the leader's chair lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:02:43 No. 23937
If americans die in large numbers, Biden will have to go back otherwise he will lose election in 2024.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:10:55 No. 23941
Or fry crayons rather than chips lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:11:24 No. 23942
>>23718 > the Taliban are as reactionary as they come
what about al-queda or isis?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:17:13 No. 23945
The Americans have fired warning shots at a crowd of civilians who were trying to enter one of the U.S. evacuation aircraft.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:23:41 No. 23947
"No one lefts behind" my arse.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:38:23 No. 23948
Vaush right now:
>dude you have to support U.S. imperialism and drone strikes over the Taliban! >DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT WORKERS!?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:39:42 No. 23949
>>445972 What was going on when they managed to stay 3 years and why they eventually fell?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:50:50 No. 23951
As if /leftypol/ ever had this radlib reaction to January 6. We were amused by it, not outraged.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:53:10 No. 23952
Kys, I hope both the Taliban and the Muhreens get fucked, Najibullah gang bby!
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:56:33 No. 23954
lmao we thought the jan 6 magaturds were accidentally based retards making the US government look pathetically weak
and the taliban suck but this also shows how pathetically weak the US is so it's darkly funny and somewhat cathartic, but also worrying for what the future holds in the region. even in defeat US empire still fucks things up by putting these clowns in power
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:05:48 No. 23960
I enjoyed Jan 6th, but I send to the qtards-rightoid magatards that believed they changed or achieved something that day, besides proving:
1)They are cucks, not revolutionaries
2)Trump gave 0 shits about them and their
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:06:44 No. 23961
Fucking gusanos should be hanged and then shot.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:07:10 No. 23962
>>23959 >The soviets arguably did more damage. >The Afghan communists were fucking dumb.
Does he think that the Afghan communists were Soviets???
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:10:36 No. 23965
send* them to eat shit
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:13:38 No. 23967
Politifact: True. The Embassy is presently a Taliban stronghold. If you would like to be airlifted, please make your way to the roof of McDonalds. For $0.25 extra you can add a small medium fries to your order of being bundled into an overloaded Chinook that still smells of Phở.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:16:23 No. 23968
>>23669 >The USSR was invited by the legit Afghan government by the time
The Afghan government at the time wasn't legit.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:18:43 No. 23970
Is there going to be another civil war after this? Most Afghans aren't Pashtun and the Taliban is still largely Pashtun-supremacist. The CIA would probably be more than happy to throw money at any willing armed groups after this embarassing withdrawal.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:19:00 No. 23971
Why is the 21st century so fucking pathetic? This is all so fucking stupid there's literally a McDonald's staffed by US marines in Kabul and they are still there cuz they gotta pay up to leave. How many levels of retarded bullshit does a singular event need to just end?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:24:12 No. 23973
>>23968 >The Afghan government at the time wasn't legit. <source: >trust me bro, CIA told me, and I am ok with it.
You need to go back.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:25:36 No. 23975
The reason I'm not on Twitter 24/7 (I have an account but it's for tweeting personal opinions)
January 6 is STAGED; Taliban takeover is not
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:25:38 No. 23976
>>23970 >Is an Islamic regime in a poor landlocked nation going to fall into civil war?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:30:02 No. 23979
supposedly they've got 800 people bundled up into a C-17 transport jet:
for reference, this is what 600-odd packed into the same jet (from the Philippines a few years ago) looks like
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:31:11 No. 23980
what if you have to poop on the way?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:32:07 No. 23981
>>23979 >800 in the same jet
Cue the dead
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:34:52 No. 23983
Good riddance. Those 800 people were giving artificial support to ghani.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:37:32 No. 23984
This is dumb. The only way to 'convert' someone is to do "humanitarian intervention" which also doesn't work besides being peak imperialism
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:39:02 No. 23985
Not to forget Lord Burger
Then they will scream "human rights in afghanistan" in sponsored demonstrations
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:39:55 No. 23986
Ok let's say that the Talichads capture some retarded british or burger, what would they do with them? I don't think they will kill or harm them, they would most likely use them for propaganda purposes and exchange them for shit later.
Have they captured a burger or british yet? not a single one?
the future is red, white, and 4444 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:41:03 No. 23988
That's great, that will win more support. China can actually convert their allies, but subtly and slowly and secretly/
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:42:23 No. 23990
>>23984 >"humanitarian intervention" which also doesn't work besides being peak imperialism
Not imperialism if its in the pursuit of cultivating a revolutionary government.
the future is red, white, and 4444 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:43:13 No. 23992
They would definitely deprogram them by redpilling them, then associating them within themselves. They are not ISIL or Qaeda.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:44:43 No. 23994
I would think that China would have to be actually socialist and not interested in profit for this argument to work
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:45:23 No. 23995
>>23993 >Republicans will sweep both houses next year
Good, I hope Trump returns, he was a great fucking boost to socialism in the US because he radicalized succdem libs.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:45:26 No. 23996
Like all imperialist faggots he knew the truth like everyone did past 2006, he just conveniently ignored it in lieu of taxpayer gibs. Now he doesn't even have the moral victory, only a gnawing sense of shame and guilt
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:45:37 No. 23997
cope. no one cares about afghanistan
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:46:45 No. 23998
>>23974 >I fought like a retard for israeli and american neolib interests and they didn't even repay me the favor >and this makes me seethe and cope
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:47:55 No. 24000
his name is cummings
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:49:46 No. 24001
Capitalism is rotting, its incompetency opens the door to many kinds of humiliation.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:50:29 No. 24002
>But the Afghani soon fell in value. They imposed a 50% tax on any company operating in the country, and those who failed to pay were attacked. They also imposed a 6% import tax on anything brought into the country, and by 1998 had control of the major airports and border crossings which allowed them to establish a monopoly on all trade So they were hated just because controlled all trade.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:50:39 No. 24003
>>446010 Refugee Crisis 1.5/2.0
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:50:46 No. 24004
The good timeline ended when the USSR collapsed.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:51:02 No. 24005
Since biden is moving out of Afghanistan, he's officially a marxist, and thus,
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:53:15 No. 24006
>With the Taliban installed in the presidential palace and the elected president having fled the country, access to Hamid Karzai airport, five kilometres from the centre of the capital, is now possible only through Taliban checkpoints. The US, UK, Germany, Canada and a host of other coalition nations are all seeking to evacuate their nationals from the country. The airport reportedly came under fire on Sunday. oh no no no
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:55:05 No. 24007
Lord Miles shall be fine since he's in the hands of the RAF now but there are so many others who are completely fucked. There was a reporter who had a 11 month old daughter and who was trapped in Kabul. He is going to be executed and his daughter is going to become a bride.
the future is red, white, and 4444 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:55:18 No. 24008
>>23995 >Trump is good
Yup! He is the best president for America and the best America has voted! Libs are right, he is Russia's friend!
LONG LIVE OUR PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP
the future is red, white, and 4444 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:57:27 No. 24011
>>24009 >Plot to kill Biden and to install Kamala
That would be AWESOME and probable. Democrats have wanted a female POTUS since 2016
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:58:27 No. 24012
what are you talking about, Jan 6 magas were amazing and harmless
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 01:58:28 No. 24013
>>24010 >isn't kamala supe unpopular tho Yes, so much so she dropped out of the 2020 primary in 2019 before voting began, but they still picked her for VP.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:00:14 No. 24014
>>24010 >isn't kamala supe unpopular tho when in the last few years has popularity been a determining factor of anything
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:02:34 No. 24015
You realize if the US was serious enough, Biden could be forced over a barrel by Congress to nuke Afghanistan?
I would be popular, since China would have to deal with the effects of their neighbour getting nuked.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:03:54 No. 24017
Honestly the rural Afghans deserve being ruled over by militant Islamic. They're even banning Covid Vaccines the dumb fucks.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:06:56 No. 24019
I don't understand how some leftists cheer on the Taliban when it's an extremely reactionary, essentially medieval aged militant religious fanatics. They're banning Covid Vaccines, music, nice clothing, trying to control the 60% illiterate population even more. I can see the Taliban backstabbing China, since the Taliban is literally made up of religious fanatical lunatics who literally want to recreate the Caliphate and overthrow any muslim nation that doesn't submit to them.
I hope the USA nukes them.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:07:47 No. 24020
C'mon man. That's harsh.
Here's hoping that the Taliban gets woke, embraces tolerance for different lifestyles, and starts seeing science as a way to get to know G-d. :)
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:08:10 No. 24021
Trump isn't in office, anymore. So no more madlad behavior from the White House.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:08:18 No. 24023
It's like the DNC wants Trump back.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:08:53 No. 24026
>>24020 >Here's hoping that the Taliban gets woke, embraces tolerance for different lifestyles, and starts seeing science as a way to get to know G-d. :)
Ngl, that's a pretty liberal conception of how things work.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:09:31 No. 24027
>>24019 >They're banning Covid Vaccines
No they aren't
Tbh, I would have to save the picture in case you return with more CIA crap.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:09:53 No. 24028
Because whatever the fuck the US was doing wasn't working and it's asinine to suggest anyone is truly cheering the Taliban on. I respect them for carrying out an obviously sophisticated and well-planned and executed final offensive. But the affairs of Afghanistan are up to Afghans. They have a meme country with meme colonial borders that don't make any sense. You won't get a real country by having democracy imposed on you but the citizens can see that the leaders are kleptocrats who are only powerful because the world's richest country across the ocean which you never seen is pulling their strings.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:09:58 No. 24029
They will if Americans end up as hostages.
It was already humiliating for American nationalism to have helicopters fly people out of their Embassy.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:10:22 No. 24030
What absolute atrocities are occurring to burger collaborators across Afghanistan today rn?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:11:04 No. 24031
>>24019 >I hope the USA nukes them.
Also, woah, woah, raging about human rights but talking this shit. Go fuck yourself, radlib.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:11:09 No. 24032
if anything the CIA is probably running a slaughterhouse for assets that are more useful dead than alive now
imagine how many opium farmers must've been capped recently to keep the trail cold on CIA funding
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:12:42 No. 24035
If anything, this massive fuckup of Biden has also opened everyone's eyes to how incompetent the Pentagon and Intelligence Agencies are.
This undermines American military and intelligence strength, and any country after this might start dismissing US demands, pointing to the Taliban as examples.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:13:29 No. 24036
unnecessary cope, the Taliban will for sure take out some of their most hated targets.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:14:34 No. 24038
>>24019 >They're banning Covid Vaccines
>I can see the Taliban backstabbing China
>I hope the USA nukes them.
The Taliban would survive, and the remaining population would support them even more fervently. It would result in a mass wave of terrorist attacks against Americans.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:15:05 No. 24039
Nuking the Taliban and whipping out that cancer is a moral good for humanity. Let the Afghan Elders who sided with the Taliban deal with the fallout.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:16:01 No. 24041
If Biden actually wanted to have a sigma grindset moment he'd legit do what that one senator that opposed the Vietnam war did when some conservatard reporter told him that saigon fell and be like.
>"Sir, That matters as much to me as who won the baseball game last night. I dont watch baseball sir."
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:17:54 No. 24042
That's all true, but if the citizens of that country prefer feudal era tribes, then they have to realize the current state of the world will make that fantasy unpleasant. This is the world of national states, global corporate influence, NGO's, China is right next door and wants their minerals.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Taliban make things difficult for Chinese corporations to mine their minerals, that the Chinese Government wouldn't have any problems using bioweapons and anything to kill off the Taliban and their supporters.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:17:56 No. 24043
Look, I hate the Taliban too based on principle, and have literally argued that a refusal to voice "support" for them doesn't equal support for US occupation, but this has to be bait, because you aren't describing the Taliban. What you are describing is ISIS, not the Taliban. To my knowledge, the Taliban aren't very much interested in creating a multi-national Caliphate, and are mostly Islamist Pashtun Nationalists, with their ideology being a mix between Islamic Fundamentalism and Pashtun tribal chauvinism.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:18:12 No. 24044
>>24039 >implying nukes won't take innocents.
Ah, I see you have figured out already with your western/NATO country how to cope with innocents immigrants that won't survive the nuke, right?
Or is it perhaps that the country you live in there is a rightoid group screeching about muh brown people and you prefer to nuke them rather to do the political process to change those rightoids to see if your country can accept afghans?
>inb4 REEEEEE HOW DARE YOU TO QUESTION MY NATIONALISM AND MY MORAL HIGH GROUND RREEEEEEE
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:19:12 No. 24045
AUUGGHH IT'S HAPPOOOONING
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:19:37 No. 24047
Do you just hate having anything pleasant in your life? Do you prefer to live like some sexless theocrat?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:20:01 No. 24048
Next time, DIVERSIFY YOUR NEWS SOURCES
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:21:34 No. 24051
>>24039 >is a moral good >to nuke people with mores and uphold morals
Fuck off, radlib burger
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:22:19 No. 24052
I would have a beer with you, sir, kek
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:22:54 No. 24053
Should we make this cyclic or keep doing sequel generals? If it's more happening-posting rather than anything worth preserving, cyclic is simpler.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:23:17 No. 24054
Just make it cyclic
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:23:57 No. 24056
cyclic is fine, not enough specific news to preserve, mostly memeing
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:24:03 No. 24057
without new real developments just make it cyclical tbh
not like we can reach any greater highs than saigon 2.0
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:24:04 No. 24058
cyclic /tig/ style but probably for less time
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:24:46 No. 24059
i don't really like cyclic tbh, having new editions is better and easier to archive.
after the evacuation is done, in discussing the boring aftermath, maybe then do cyclical but until then it would be better to have an archive of leftypol responding to the collapse in real time.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:25:16 No. 24060
>>24047 >Sexless theocrat
FUCK YOU. LONG LIVE THE TALIBAN
GOD IS INDEED GREAT
Cope and seethe, next time read different news sources, never subscribe to fucking AP
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:26:05 No. 24061
this might be a good compromise
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:26:48 No. 24062
I was shitposting a bit. Practicing for reddit etc when libs start to complain
Thorough sovietification would have educated the rural religious nuts from their benighted positions
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:28:38 No. 24064
Asked this elsewhere, but what can be learned for if a socialist government or insurgency was to wage war against the Taliban in the future, at least in regards to tactics and forward planning? Just don't be fucking retarded?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:29:01 No. 24065
Keep it symplier: Cyclic.
But edit the main OP. Something like: Afghan habbenings the return of the Taliban sequel.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:29:05 No. 24066
>Biden sending a thousand PARATROOPERS to Kabul airport. >US needs 6000 men to protect a LITTLE. CUCK. SHED.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:29:52 No. 24067
>>24064 >what can be learned for if a socialist government or insurgency was to wage war against the Taliban in the future
If Taliban sided with America, problem is that they will never, and so socialist regimes can make them an exception. Returning to medieval lifestyle is also great.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:32:08 No. 24069
Material conditions will always lead to class struggle, it is not something a bunch of fundamentalists can change.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:33:27 No. 24070
>>24068 this but unironically
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:33:37 No. 24071
1. train actually competent fighters
2. build trust with the local communities
3. what >>24068 said, they are there because the country's situation has been set back too far to be able to support a more sophisitcated "modern" political system
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:36:11 No. 24072
That's what these guys
were trying to do, and guess what? the vast majority of the people rejected it.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:37:41 No. 24073
>>24067 >If Taliban sided with America, problem is that they will never, and so socialist regimes can make them an exception.
They initially did, so that's not really an argument. There is also zero reason for any socialist "regime" to make any exception. Communism isn't when you go "Communism, but".
>Returning to medieval lifestyle is also great.
No. If we ever do live long enough to see another communist revolution, its going to have to be more voracious and expansive then ever before. Literally nothing can be left of any opposition to it.
>>24069 >Material conditions will always lead to class struggle, it is not something a bunch of fundamentalists can change.
Yes, but class struggle is not something that happens in isolation within a single country. A revolutionary government taking and seizing the land of a separate bourgeoisie (or even more antiquated classes) state and integrating its working class for itself is just as much class struggle as any other.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:40:25 No. 24074
Capitalist China will do it better tbh
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:40:32 No. 24075
>>24072 >That's what these guys >>23569 were trying to do, and guess what? the vast majority of the people rejected it.
And? To repurpose a quote used in a different context, "For the people, despite the people". The revolution and the development of it is more important then any one people and nation, and if those workers who side with reaction need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future, then so be it. They won't be the only generation.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:43:44 No. 24077
Because is moronic. They don't reject modernity like if they would love to live in the 1500s. To begin with they didn't use rocks and sticks to attack the US/NATO.
That's a CIA talking point:
>le we are bringing modernity to those savages
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:44:13 No. 24078
they are literally just giving them ammunition
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:44:58 No. 24080
>>24019 >"nice" clothing
real priorities here
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:46:57 No. 24081
Orange Man really dodged this bullet.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:48:12 No. 24083
Magas would have called it based if trump did this
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:49:07 No. 24084
Lol watching ABC (Australia) and some guy just said.
>"Ok. i feel like we've just gotta come out and say it. This is one of the most embarrassing moments for America and by proxy australia in a long time." >"It clearly shows that BOTH of each of our countries two major parties were obviously lying to us about how well the war was going." >"It was an open secret this was going to happen. The only thing that has really gone wrong is just HOW FAST the ANA COMPLETELY collapsed and the Taliban surged in. The plan in terms of damage control for the American and by proxy our government was obviously to keep the afghan government standing on its own for a few months and then once everyone had forgotten what afghanistan even was the Taliban wold surge in." >"INSTEAD the Taliban pretty much blitzed the entire country in 10 days and now us, the americans and the brits are acting real tight lipped because we dont even know if we got everyone out as the Taliban raises their flag over Kabul, our diplomats, citizens and soldiers hide in an airport and the world laughs at us." Lol spitting straight facts and logic
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:49:28 No. 24085
>>24079 One can't expect too much from an already reactionary group as peasants. And worse, one dominated by reactionary figures (the islamic mullahs, later paid by the CIA and Pakistan)
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:49:49 No. 24086
Is calling afganistan tribal racist? Whats the difference between their "tribes" and the cabal that runs the USA?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:49:56 No. 24087
>>24075 >And? To repurpose a quote used in a different context, "For the people, despite the people". The revolution and the development of it is more important then any one people and nation, and if those workers who side with reaction need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future, then so be it. They won't be the only generation.
Again the USSR already tried to do that, the mujahidden had a ton of popular support outside of Kabul and major cities, we need to accept that afghans want to live under an authoritarian theocracy, that's how it is unless you magically make them all class conscious using mememagic.
A lot of them do reject modernity, not in "muh sticks and stones instead of weapons" but in customs, human rights etc. The most radical interpretations of the sharia say that muslims should live the way Muhammmed lived 1500 years ago.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:51:35 No. 24090
>>24072 >Because is moronic. They don't reject modernity like if they would love to live in the 1500s. To begin with they didn't use rocks and sticks to attack the US/NATO.
Where did my argument rely on them rejecting modern technology? Technology is itself not inherently the same as a development production within a country and a change in its social relations.
>That's a CIA talking point: >le we are bringing modernity to those savages
Its not inherently a CIA talking point. If the USSR invaded a western capitalist state, it would also be bringing a necessary future to them as well. They would be closer to socialism development wise, but they would still be made to abandon their previous social relations, with those that rejected pulled forward regardless.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:52:05 No. 24091
>>24085 >One can't expect too much from an already reactionary group as peasants.
t. trotskyte being wrong as usual
Remember the CPC took over the nationalist peasantry and they got very ideologized towards the communist revolution.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:53:16 No. 24093
5000+ American hostages when
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:53:46 No. 24094
hahahah, i guess he didn’t have time to grab it before running over the bridge to uzbekistan
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:54:23 No. 24095
Imagine the Taliban going against the ANA– oh wait we don't need to.
Now imagine a few good conservative men going against whatever elements of the US government oppose them, soon a proper revolution will happen and 1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN! And just as the Taliban put the ISIS retards down like rabid dogs, we'll take care of the Atomwaffen and O9A psychopaths. We'll pardon our freedom fighters while leaving retards like Crusius and Cruz to rot. We will use the US as a base to being proper democracy to countries that deserve it, not third world shitholes that have zero want nor need for a representative democracy. uygharagua will have free and fair elections or they will have a Pinochet, and not Ortega running things, Cuba and Venezuela as will be conquered through force or diplomacy within the first year of our victory, and Europe will finally have the heroes they need, the UK, Germany, Italy, will have proper right wing governments and Sweden, France, Spain, etc will learn what real capitalism is. We will rebuild the Twin Towers bigger and better than ever in Kabul, they will shine 3,000 feet tall and the Taliban will pay for it with opium profits that we dump into Wuhan in revenge, we'll turn Havana into Las Vegas II, and Tokyo-3 will be real but it will be located in the former Portland, Oregon. It's a new paradigm, the War on Terror is over. Something new is coming alive.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:55:00 No. 24097
They sorta already are de-facto hostages.
No planes can take off from the airport because Tali's keep circling the place firing guns in the air to spook people.
And there's tonnes of people scattered around the city who never got the clue where their meant to evac (like that britbong livestreamer)
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:55:20 No. 24098
The War on Terror is coming back home.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:55:56 No. 24099
>>24087 >Again the USSR already tried to do that
and they might have had a lot more success if the world superpower wasn't funneling billions of dollars and weapons to their nutjob opponents in a concerted effort to make them fail.
>we need to accept that afghans want to live under an authoritarian theocracy
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:56:24 No. 24100
Don’t worry, Biden will address the nation in the “next days”. Honestly I’d be checking the Camp David coat closet for hiding neocon gunmen if I were a certain serial child sniffer
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:57:15 No. 24101
>>24079 >The Khalqi policy of encouraging the education of girls, for example, aroused deep resentment in the villages. OMG what a disgusting dictatorship! Just like Cuba! Those poor mullahs just wanted their harems.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:57:33 No. 24102
>>24087 >Again the USSR already tried to do that, the mujahidden had a ton of popular support outside of Kabul and major cities, we need to accept that afghans want to live under an authoritarian theocracy, that's how it is unless you magically make them all class conscious using mememagic.
I don't care if they do. You either operate globally with your system, or you die. The revolution needs to expand, not because of some retarded utopian kumbaya garbage, but because it is necessary to its survival in the context of combating a global capitlaist system. Perhaps you try to export to countires around it first where development is more sufficient towards instigating proletariat revolt, but after that, the country is the claim of the workers and global communisms future aspirations, not whatever they personally want.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:58:24 No. 24104
The maga-to-taliban pipeline is complete
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:58:37 No. 24105
I personally think it has to do with the ideology that entalis the muslim leadership (reminder that their mullahs considered the communist as devils) in contrast to the ideology/religion the chinese peasants had.
But if you can prove me wrong in my little ramble I frankly would be glad .
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:59:50 No. 24107
Magapedes high on the copium.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 03:06:53 No. 24109
If flights resume, the Taliban could infiltrate rather easily, so I don't think they'll be evacuating anyone except VIPs and soldiers.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 03:09:30 No. 24110 >>24098
And we're gonna fucking win! No one does suicide bombings for liberal democracy, and I'm not a bloodthirsty guy, someone like Trump could just intimidate the rest of the feds into surrendering in exchange for living their comfy lives. ANTIFA and BLM would be allowed to do the black hammer commune thing, your school teachers and boomer liberals would just complain while doing nothing, and leftypol would just shitpost about a revolution that's never going to come.
? Biden is basically a neocon who finally is trying to pull out but like your parents probably it's too fucking late and an embarrassment more than anything.
Taliban yes. Al-Qaeda, ISIS, these guys are insane and I'd be the first to subjugate them. I thought Crusius was a fucking embarrassment before the FAGGOTcel meme came along, at least Tarrant was cool other than the civilian murder.
Enjoy being flown into China on a refugee caravan on an [Airline I own] Boeing 787
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 03:10:17 No. 24111
Wonder how Chinese netizens are reacting to this news
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 03:16:27 No. 24113
So the magas saw the pictures of the Taliban in the palace and now feel some sort of kinship with the supposed 9/11ers because of 1/6. This fucking rocks lol
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 03:22:04 No. 24114
As I said before, massive cope larp.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 03:23:38 No. 24116
the meme autism yes
I'm of the opinion that we always had kinship and didn't know it, Bush did 9/11 and a wedge was driven, now it's healed.
Apparently that Rambo III thank you credit is fake but there were movies made about Soviet soldiers getting Pashtunwali
So was Mohamad Omar in 2002 probably
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 03:40:49 No. 24120
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 04:23:53 No. 24122
I want to see his beheading livestreamed
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 04:27:37 No. 24123
People like to think the Taliban is as extreme as ISIS but that isn't true at all. I expect enforced headscarfs and banning of homosexuality etc. More like Iran, less like ISIS.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 04:36:08 No. 24124
By the way, Prashad posted a twit with one of the taliban mullah meeting with ghani
2021-08-16 (Mon) 04:41:00 No. 24125
COD WoW tier graphics lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 04:44:51 No. 24127
Looks like it hit bumped limit and good morning afghanistan!
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 04:50:59 No. 24130
New thread pls, doesn't bump anymore
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 05:12:41 No. 24132
Mujahedeen and Taliban are two different groups, dumbass.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 05:55:48 No. 24133
>>447321 new thread Unique IPs: 129