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>>674709
>Protests started for gas prices raise two days ago>Rapidly became widespread>Government resigned few hours ago<Protestors started storming palaces of government and institutions all around the country>CSTO called in, effect unclear yet>no response yet from the westOld thread full, continue discussion here
>>490912Yes.
That's why they changed it.
The current president of khazahstan was the director general of UN lol
Yaaaas queen we Stan the UN fuck those filthy protestors burning banks and buildings eww. BEAT THEM DOWN NOW!!! LAW AND ORDER!!!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kassym-Jomart_Tokayev>>490917Well yeah, I need ammo.
>>490921Not
these protesters. I mean any protesters, in general, as an MO. I remember watching the Turkish coup attempt live on /pol/, and "airport" was a big deal. In fact, airports often come up in military objectives very quickly. But just protesters? Gonna need more info.
>>490935Wasn't there a hardcore "Marxist-leninist" party in Italy that critically supported ISIS?
I mean, I am a Marxist Leninist, but I can recognize there's people who are retarded in both sects of leftism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kassym-Jomart_TokayevRead the president of kazahstan political positions
This dude glows do hard lmao
>>676099This is their website apparently
http://socialismkz.info/?p=26797>After the strike began at Tengizchevroil in Atyrau region, workers organized an indefinite rally in the very regional center – Atyrau. Then the rallies covered many regions of the country, and the miners of the Karaganda region and the miners of the Kazakhmys Corporation in Zhezkazgan and Satpayev joined the strike.
>At the same time, the rally in Atyrau began with a scuffle when the police and the SOBR tried not to let the columns of workers pass. Subsequently, the rally continued and was declared indefinite by the participants. Meanwhile, in Aktau, the authorities attempted to appease the strikers and protesters, saying that they had decided to reduce the price of liquefied gas to 50 tenge for residents of the Mangystau region.
>But no sooner had Deputy Prime Minister of Kazakhstan Yeraly Tugzhanov and Energy Minister Magzum Mirzagaliyev announced this decision on Yntymak Square in Aktau, than the protesters drove them from the podium and kicked them out of the rally itself, almost beating them on the way. And the akim of the region, Nurlan Nogaev, who was trying to fly from the regional center, was simply not allowed to leave by striking oil workers who blocked all approaches to the airport.
>It seems that this concession was too late, as the workers demanded higher wages, construction of new enterprises, improvement of working conditions, and the most radical part of the young workers demanded the resignation of the president and the government.
>In addition, on the same day, workers and residents of Aktobe, Uralsk, Kyzyl-Orda, Turkestan, Shymkent, Kokshetau, Kostanay, Taldykorgan, Ekibastuz, Almaty region, Taraz and other cities and districts of Kazakhstan began to take to the streets. There was a rally in Astana with road closures. Truckers blocked part of the streets in Shymkent.
>In the evening and at night on January 4, miners of the Karaganda region and miners of the Kazakhmys Corporation in the former Zhezkazgan region went on strike, and striking oil workers blocked the railway and highway at the Tengiz field.
>Then the authorities made attempts to disperse the rallies in Astana, Taraz, Taldykorgan, Ekibastuz, Kokshetau and Uralsk. At the same time, the police used stun grenades, batons and special equipment. In Taraz, mothers with many children who went out for a peaceful rally and all journalists were massively detained.
>But the greatest clashes and mass protests engulfed Almaty, where at first motorists blocked roads, and then began to gather and moved on foot from different directions to the akimat of the city, where they attempted to seize the administrative building. The police also used stun grenades, tear gas, batons and rubber bullets.
>But the youth did not back down and even pushed back the police on a number of central streets. In order to prevent the coordination of the protesters' efforts, the authorities blocked the Internet, cellular communications and actually blocked a number of electronic media. Meanwhile, President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev declared a state of emergency in Almaty and Mangystau region for a period from January 5 from 01:30 to 00:00 on January 19, 2022.
>He also said that he would convene the government on January 5 on all urgent social issues. But then a rumor was spread by pro-government bloggers that the entire cabinet of ministers who allegedly failed to fulfill the president's instructions would resign on that day. With this, the presidential administration and Nursultan Nazarbayev, who is the permanent head of the Security Council, want to relieve some of the tension in society.
>But this is unlikely to happen, since the protests have become massive, and indefinite rallies are taking place in Kyzylorda, Atyrau and in a number of cities, as well as strikes continue in Mangistau, Atyrau and Karaganda regions. Despite attempts to disperse the rallies in Aktau and Zhanaozen by force, protests are still continuing there.
>On Wednesday, it will be clear how and where the mass movement will move further and whether the same large rallies will be repeated on January 4. One thing is clear to people that now no one believes the words of the president and the government, and if the wave of popular anger subsides, then we should expect, as after the shooting of oil workers in 2011, arrests, repression and torture. >>490991Tons of online "leftist" are not leftist they just seek out what they view as a anti-america position then defend it
Look at the moment some are convinced now by Russia news to defend kazakstan president who just fired everyone but himself and was the former director general of United Nations from 2011-2013
What does this director general of UN offer to leftism? Nothing lol but they got to be conttarian and defend him
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kassym-Jomart_Tokayev >>490988No, not really. And even if it turns out to be the case, then that just means the new Kazakh government will be less backwards and thus (on behalf of workers) more susceptible to an actual socialist revolution down the road.
>>490991Communism, if we are talking about Engels, is about forming stateless, classless and moneyless societies after decades of continued accumulated wealth under a socialist society. Few communists actually understand this and no non-communists do. Nobody wants to live in such a society because the everyman is dependent on the government and a monetary system that isn’t inherently exploiting them. Workers and communist praxis are an oxymoron. Most workers are apolitical and just want to provide for their families, which is something westoid “communists” hate because they’re mostly gay and socially maladaptive nerds.
>>491008And how does that align with taking over an
airport?
>>491009<implying jet fuel can be used for cars>>491010<"protest" aka launch a military operation grade assault out of fucking nowhere with seemingly no real organization being involved You are really this gullible?
I reckon it's a real uprising.
http://socialismkz.info/?p=26762Proletarians of all lands unite.
>>491014<implying jet fuel can be used for carsWhat are you, a pussy?
Also there's more than just planes, they have cars all around and thus need car fuel.
>>491015jamming usually works by filling all frequencies with a powerful transmission of static or other kinds of audio-destructive noise to prevent communication, but it only tends to work very locally
there are also reserved frequencies for the military, police, ambulances, ect which are almost never jammed so communications can be passed on from sympathetic elements that way
>>491022Why would they go to the airport to siphon car fuel if they can do it on every fucking parking car in the street you moron
I can't believe how fucking gullible you guys are lmao
>>491027did you not read
>>491018 ?
>>490986>points to support the amorphous protest movement>isn't aware that this could be another maidanBetter wait and see before already doing morality sketches.
Someone should post again the KKE statement
>>491028Yeah bro I'm sure the random mob in Kazakhstan that formed just today was able to do this all including looting weapons 100% spontaneously within hours without any political organization having pushed for it before
>>491031Then name me a single other "spontaneous revolution" in the past 20 years that had zero organized leadership and wasn't a glow-op.
>>491016>p-please do research for me!No.
>>491023Lol. There is no “invasion” from the west in Kazakhstan. I’m originally from there and live elsewhere now, still have family who have suffered from the backwards government. Nazarbayev is Putin’s lapdog and Putin himself is just a liberal who jails communists, yet for some reason leftypol defends him anyway like the reactionaries you all are.
(Is coffee good for you?) >>491035Lmfao the Arab Spring protests had parties that preceded them and were glowed to hell, are you fucking 12?
>>491036>if you weren't terminally online, you'd know that if there's already an undercurrent of discontentThis isn't the gotcha that you think it is given that neither you or I live in Kazakhstan hence media being our news source lmfao
>a small protest can balloon quickly as more people get the chance to make their anger known. Fuck your paredolia.Yeah bro I will fucking quote all of you whores in 1 week and we will see where your color revolution goes.
>>491039>The yellow vests was a spontaneous movement without organized leadership Name me the time Yellow Vests distributed weaponry and took over airports. A protest isn't a revolution.
>to take over supply lines, fight cops and try to take over state institutionsMaybe this is what happened in bizarro Gonzaloist blogs but not in reality, you are really exaggerating the outcome of these protests
>>491050>muh airportthat's your only fucking point isn't it?
>distributed weaponsKazakh is post soviet with AKs for days on the black market, wouldn't be difficult to make a cache of them
>BUT MUH AIRPORTthis isn't as important as you seem to think it is
>>491027I cant find any vid of them occupying the airport, only looting of shops
There was also talk of preventing the airport from being used to bring in military reinforcements, but no vids
>>491033People like you just believe the masses are dumb sheeple that are never capable of anything unless elites control them
There have been strikes, mass protests in previous years
>>491050The weapons were likely stolen from local arsenals/police stations
Just because westernoids are cucked and dont think of doing this doesnt mean the rest of the world is the same
>>491056It's not just the airport but other strategic spots as well. Also remember that the entire fucking Internet is down. How would regular ass people even know the specific locations of some of these government buildings? Do you know where your government's intelligence office HQ is without looking it up online?
>>491057>People like you just believe the masses are dumb sheeple that are never capable of anything unless elites control themOh people are capable alright, but with organizations they are more capable. One of the main demands resounding right now is restoring the liberal constitution of 1993 - you are naive if you think the CIA doesn't have cells in every major country for incidents like this.
>>491083FSB is not better than the CIA. We talk about multi-polarity a lot - but it only makes sense if socialists can grow in the periphery, which isn't happening in Kazakhstan. Any crisis is an opportunity, but you need the have your organization in place *already* when the crisis escalates, not after it. Otherwise you end up like Trots at the back of protests thinking they speak for everyone when they are irrelevant and represent nobody in the community. To think legitimately that this protest will do anything for socialism (or even worse anarchism) in the short-term is delusional. At BEST, if things go well, it could allow the fostering of a new socialist movement under the new climate of Kazakhstan - but if this new government is more CIA-inclined, why should they even give up on the anti-communist repressions of the past? They obviously don't have a problem with such repressions (see: Baltic states) at all.
The best time for organizing was in the past, the second-best-time is now - but it's way too late to steer this ship properly now. I mean even the fact that nearly the entire country is cut off from the Internet and telephone lines are down necessitate that you need local face-to-face communication - how are you able to communicate intricate strategies without any organization in place? Even anarchists have their own form of organizations and decorum and rules.
>>491108>The george floyd protests were huge and radicalized many peopleDid they really? People forgot about most of it already, and most blamed police brutality per se instead of the capitalist system behind it.
>in addition to straining leo severely and increasing hatred of the copsNYC for example has an explicitly pro-cop mayor now.
>>491120>Absolutely nothing of value will be lost.Really depends on what replaces it, doesn't it?
>Quite the opposite Putin is rabid anti-communistHe obviously is
>>491119>People forgot about most of it already, No.
and most blamed police brutality per se instead of the capitalist system behind it.
Many people do, there was socialists and communists at the movement and video of crowds cheering while this guy talked about fighting capitalism with racial solidarity.
Of course we should not expect everyone to have a class consciousness right away. The unrest over police brutality, a necessary vanguard of capital is huge
>>491123You're the dimwit for thinking it is meant literally and not just a metaphor. The socialist movement began to form in the late 1800s, 1905 is a metaphor for failure-yet-success, and 1917 was the big one. You could totally abstract these away from their historical years and find that it is just an extended metaphor for growth, failure, regrouping, and then success.
With the obvious caveat that the real headache starts after the revolution.
>>491137>I have seen it a lot onlineThat's a bit of a pity, would have liked to hear real-life stuff.
>public disturbance is necessary for intentions setting and letting people realise they can fight against authority and the stateI am pro-chaos as long as it happens in Burgerland. I was very happy over the George Floyd stuff. Seeing as that the USA is the biggest devil nation to have existed, even having such riots was a huge deal. I mean Trump had to hide in a bunker. HOWEVER, the protest movement did fizzle-out and the lack of coordination did contribute to this. Furthermore, it seems very little of the demands have been met, so its importance was mostly symbolic (which is a start at least).
>>491082>It's only possible if there are organized movements with solid demands backing the massesand why do you know that that isn't occurring there?
because the thin-gruel first-day sources haven't reflected it deeply yet possibly?
https://gnews.org/1826089/I bring you the schizo angle of protest. BEHOLD!!!!!
>During his live broadcast on January 5, 2022, Mr. Miles Guo revealed the breaking news that yesterday’s massive protest in Kazakhstan was incited by the Chinese Communist Party because the President of Kazakhstan refused to repatriate 100 tons of gold to Communist China.
>Kazakhstan, a small country in Central Asia, has a disproportionately large gold reserve of 500 tons. In comparison, the official size of gold reserves in Russia and China are 2500 tons and 2000 tons, respectively. Former Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev frequently visited Hainan Province in China and had good relationships with Chen Feng, Wang Jian (former executives of HNA Group), Wang Qishan (Vice Chairman of Communist China), and Jiang Zemin family—Wang Qishan and Jiang Zemin are political rivals of Xi Jinping. It turns out that Wang Qishan and Jiang Zemin have a hidden stash of 100 tons of gold in Kazakhstan: Wang Qishan’s gold was transported from Vietnam and Cambodia into Kazakhstan. Now Xi Jinping is taking actions against his political rivals and demanded Kazakhstan to return the hidden stash of gold, yet the former Kazakh President refused.
>Communist China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi visited Kazakhstan a few days ago and threatened to overthrow the Kazakh government if the gold is not returned. As predicted, massive protests erupted across Kazakhstan after Wang Yi left. In retaliation, the Kazakh President even threatened to build a diplomatic relationship with Taiwan. Mr. Miles Guo who has a good friendship with Nazarbayev’s family told Nazarbayev six months ago that he would be destroyed if he refused Communist China’s demand. Nazarbayev dismissed the comment, saying Xi Jinping wouldn’t dare to do so. But now both Russia and Communist China are pressuring Kazakhstan to return the gold. According to Mr. Guo, Nazarbayev’s family surrendered a few hours ago and agreed to return the gold in three or four shipments to China.
>The most preposterous aspect is that Communist China plots to blame the incident on the United States. Communist China advises to attribute the protest to CIA operations. The CCP’s propaganda is scary—the United States has never invaded China, yet the CCP propaganda falsely condemns US ambition to destroy China.
>According to Mr. Guo, an insider of UBS told him that a subordinate of Wang Qishan just withdrew 30 billion USD while Nazarbayev’s family withdrew 10 billion USD from the Swiss bank. A lot of money will eventually flow into the Himalaya Exchange to avoid plundering by the CCP. When desperate, even the political rivals of Xi may want to store their money in the Himalaya Exchange.
>in addition to Kazakhstan, the CCP also threatened Lithuania. Xi Jinping secretly collected information about the Lithuanian President’s personal life and blackmailed him. Mr. Guo predicted the Lithuanian President will eventually fight back against the CCP over the issue of Taiwan.
>In the end, the CCP will be overthrown as the Whistleblower Movement continuously exposes the truth and the evil plan the CCP and the dark force in the world have jointly plotted. >>491162I can't tell anymore.
That could glow like the sun or it could be army defectors. I could see either
>>491184Said Ukrainian opposition is in power now
Belarus not yet but they can push for it any time
Not to be a total doomer but realistically as much as we shit on Putin's retardation do these countries have a viable alternative as of now? Socialism or even leftism doesn't pop out of thin air and due to the failure of the USSR any kind of Marxism is very tainted in most of these states (while ironically at the same time there are people who have nostalgia for the USSR)
>>491194>provide direction to the protestors and tell them what to do? No way! That's the CIA's job!How can anybody here do that? This is like deriding us for not being able to spirit-bomb the USA like we are in Dragon Ball Z.
>communist party probably makes up a significant portion of the protestors?This is just copium day-dreaming as of now, as true as I wish it were.
>>491208It's not impossible, however, it is usually glow.
A genuine people's movement will never get any attention in the media
>>491172>If we could find out what sort of weapons they're handing out, that could be a big hint. In Venezuela they gave the coup defectors shit manufactured in the U.S. and the E.U.The USA has thousands of AKs in stockpiles for giving out to moderate rebels.
> In passing references scattered through once-classified documents and cryptic public comments by former intelligence officials, it is referred to as “Midwest Depot,” but the bland code name belies the role it has played in some of the C.I.A.’s most storied operations.
>From the facility, located somewhere in the United States, the C.I.A. has stockpiled and distributed untraceable weapons linked to preparations for the Bay of Pigs invasion and the arming of rebels and resistance fighters from Angola to Nicaragua to Afghanistan
>In December, he quietly posted his research, which he has updated several times with additional clues, on the website of the Federation of American Scientists. In an email exchange, Mr. Thomson argued that the Midwest Depot’s history should be scrutinized.“I have worried about the extent to which the U.S. has spread small arms around over the decades to various parties it supported,” he said. “Such weapons are pretty durable and, after the cause du jour passed, where did they go? To be a little dramatic about it, how many of those AK-47s and RPG-7s we see Islamists waving around today passed through the Midwest Depot on their way to freedom fighters in past decades?”
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/05/us/arms-cache-most-likely-kept-in-texas-by-the-cia.htmlhttps://irp.fas.org/eprint/midwest.pdf >>491207>ask for price controls while unmarked vans give out AK47s and storm federal government buildingsGee I wonder why people are suspicious about it.
>>491208Even if they are possible, where do they lead to?
>>491220>armoryThis is just your personal headcanon for now, and why aren't these things guarded? If the soldiers co-operated with the "protestors", why wouldn't they hand out the weapons themselves?
>took the license plates off the vheicles they stole to do soAnother headcanon
>that is no kind of evidence of glowiesBy itself no, but the fact so many rather elaborate actions happened in such little time from a seemingly unorganized movement does raise suspicions.
>>491219This, there is just so little information. Also, western media is just:
>gas prices>kazakhs pissedThere doesn't seem to be a massive media blitz that glow ops tend to have, at least not yet.
>>491233Stop acting like Kazakhstan is some wild west cowboy land, it's a fucking capitalist cucked country like any other.
>SolidarityIf they were so solidaric, they would hand out these supposed weapon cachés themselves and openly align themselves with the protestors.
>>491247Lets roll then:
Dubs: Glow Op
Trips: Its Legit
Quads: USSR 2.0 Confirmed, Trots were behind everything
>>491210This should cause some fracas, members of his own party/ clique are on Facebook supporting it, also the KKE is supporting it, which is a party in their international.
Also what's he basing this on? Or is he just having opinions like a typical dengoid? Is there something that has caused him to say this?
>>491244>Reality is not a video game my Western friendReality is successful movements are formed *before* revolutions happened, not scrambling for it afterwards.
>It's the job of the left to capture the interests of the people, not the other way around.True, but where is this left in Kazakhstan? Be realistic.
>If the left can't profit from a crisis, that's the failure of the left not the moral defect of the people.Yes
>The question is where's the Kazakh left? Is it a strong actor? Why not? What is it doing wrong?Agreed - however this is an analysis that neither I nor most posters here are probably able to do without researching first.
>>491163What are they supposed to be marked with though?
Also the AK47 density in that area is probably insane, its between Russia, China and Afghanistan.
This could literally just be an average car breaking down.
but without being silly, there probably are heaps of AKs about and somebody/ a group has just decided to keep things up a notch.
>>491239I fucking love that image
>>491298Off
Rolling stone
>>491309Shut up shay we just explained that this take is retarded and pure speculation.
The chinese have enacted a concious policy of non interventionism for decades to ensure continued market access and they dont have the network and agents atm to make this kind shit happen abroad, close to one of their most important strategic partners (russia)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl7DP7p4yxsSome good material to watch about the situation:
>Russia Concerned as Protests Grip Key Ally Kazakhstan Ahead of Talks with USDo not pay attention to Mercouris' friend, Christoforou, a moron.
>>491314 (me)
Russian communist party words about Kazakhstan.
Lol apparently crypto prices are in freefall due to many mining operations being in Kazakhstan and the internet going out/wallets not being safe
https://cointelegraph.com/news/top-bitcoin-mining-country-kazakhstan-turns-off-internet-amid-protestsNow I know the protestors are based
>>491319Scrap it, based protestors confirmed. Down with the government of Kazakhstan
>tfw you will never pump AK rounds that you got from an unmarked van into a building full of bitcoin miners with your bros why bother to even get up in the morning?
>>491319Also hol up hol up
so you're telling me Kazakhstan is a world leader in both Uranium AND Shitcoins and the current protests are around oil
Fuck this shit country, make one good product please after your revolution Kazahks. I too would burn my country down if I was you
>>491339I'm only shitposting lad.
The only piece of information that has swayed me to any side is the piece about israeli oil. Even then, its not a full confirm
>>491340China SUPPORTS the protests because the kazakhstan regime supports islamists in sinkiang.
The reason they chose "high gas prices" as the rallying cry for the protests was because ONLY THE BELT AND ROAD INITIATIVE can build the pipelines to cheapen gasoline.
China is enacting regime change against the turkic islamist kazakhstani government using the banned communist party of kazakhstan as the operatives within the country.The unmarked vans are MSS vans.
>>491336Because most american don't know where kazkhstan is.
Watch the ali g show not the shitty movie, he never mocked kazakhstan the joke was always on the americans
>>491342>The only piece of information that has swayed me to any side is the piece about israeli oil. Even then, its not a full confirmThat's 100% real.
>Even though Israel’s relationship with Kazakhstan has become noticeably closer since Netanyahu began his second stint as Israeli prime minister in 2009, Kazakhstan has been the lynchpin of Israel’s Central Asia strategy since the early 1990s. Israel is Kazakhstan’s fifth largest Asian trade partner, and imports over $1.4 billion worth of goods from Kazakhstan each year.
>The oil industry is the principal driver of Israel’s economic links with Kazakhstan. Israel imports 25 percent of its oil from Kazakhstan. Chen Bar-Yosef, the Managing Director of the Israeli National Infrastructure Ministry’s Fuel Authority, has praised the quality of Kazakhstan’s oil, and has encouraged Kazakh manufacturers to sell oil directly to Israeli private companies.
>Kazakh policymakers believe that Israel could indirectly assist Kazakhstan’s attempts to increase its oil exports to East Asia. In November 2006, Kazakhstan’s Deputy Prime Minister Karim Masimov announced that Kazakhstan would expand its investments in Haifa’s oil refineries.
>Masimov has also called for an extension of the Baku-Tblisi-Ceyhan (BTC) Pipeline to Israel. Should the BTC pipeline expand to Israel, Israel’s oil terminals at Ashkelon and Eilat could be used to increase Kazakh oil shipments to Europe and East Asia.
>In addition to importing Kazakh oil, Israel has played a prominent role in assisting President Nursultan Nazarbayev’s economic diversification efforts. Israeli business leaders have been especially vocal supporters of closer Israel-Kazakhstan investment linkages.
>Nimrod Novik, vice president of Israeli multinational Merhav, lobbied the Israeli government to invest in Kazakhstan during the 1990s, claiming that Kazakhstan is “one of the wealthiest countries in the world underground, and one of the least developed above ground.” Israeli policymakers heeded Novik’s advice. By 2009, 52 major Israeli companies had established business operations in Kazakhstan.
>Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak has also used his close relationship with Nazarbayev to advance Israel’s business interests in Kazakhstan. Barak spoke to Nazarbayev in late 2014 about how Israel could help Kazakhstan harness its industrial innovation potential and improve the quality of its health services. Further advances in these fields will ensure that Israel remains a vital economic partner for Kazakhstan, even as Astana strengthens its alliance with Iran.
>Israel and Kazakhstan have been counterterrorism partners for almost two decades. Kazakhstan’s fear of terrorist attacks rose precipitously during the mid-1990s, due to the rising presence of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) and Hizb ut-Tahrir, the destabilization created by the Tajikistan civil war, and blowback from the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan. The Kazakh military believed that a closer relationship with Israel would strengthen its counterterrorism efforts, as Israel had decades of experience combating Palestinian terror organizations.
>According to a 2014 Jamestown Foundation report, Israel-Kazakhstan security cooperation increased dramatically after the 9/11 attacks. Israel became a natural ally for Kazakhstan after 9/11 because of its ability to produce sophisticated missiles, air defense systems, and stealth weaponry. Kazakh policymakers also believed that closer ties with Israel would reciprocally strengthen Kazakhstan’s security links with the United States and the European Union. As Kazakhstan was seeking to reduce its security dependency on China and Russia, Kazakh policymakers responded cordially to Israel’s diplomatic overtures.
>Recent Israeli actions in Kazakhstan reveal the strength of the Jerusalem-Astana relationship. The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have trained Kazakh military forces to use Iron Dome technology, and repeatedly held joint military exercises in Kazakh facilities.https://thediplomat.com/2016/07/the-israel-kazakhstan-partnership/ >>491351Holy shit.
>In November 2006, Kazakhstan’s Deputy Prime Minister Karim Masimov announced that Kazakhstan would expand its investments in Haifa’s oil refineries.interesting that next door China has the contract for building the port at Haifa, but thats an aside don't really know what to make of it, but:
>Israel and Kazakhstan have been counterterrorism partners for almost two decades. Kazakhstan’s fear of terrorist attacks rose precipitously during the mid-1990s, due to the rising presence of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) and Hizb ut-Tahrir, the destabilization created by the Tajikistan civil war, and blowback from the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan. The Kazakh military believed that a closer relationship with Israel would strengthen its counterterrorism efforts, as Israel had decades of experience combating Palestinian terror organizations.
>According to a 2014 Jamestown Foundation report, Israel-Kazakhstan security cooperation increased dramatically after the 9/11 attacks. Israel became a natural ally for Kazakhstan after 9/11 because of its ability to produce sophisticated missiles, air defense systems, and stealth weaponry. Kazakh policymakers also believed that closer ties with Israel would reciprocally strengthen Kazakhstan’s security links with the United States and the European Union. As Kazakhstan was seeking to reduce its security dependency on China and Russia, Kazakh policymakers responded cordially to Israel’s diplomatic overtures.
>Recent Israeli actions in Kazakhstan reveal the strength of the Jerusalem-Astana relationship. The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have trained Kazakh military forces to use Iron Dome technology, and repeatedly held joint military exercises in Kazakh facilities.that is all extremely fucking suspect. Thank you for your digging, I am beginning to form my thoughts in light of this
>>491372I mean, shitcoin is pretty prevalent right now and every other shitcoin depends on it.
As well, you ha e a lot of companies making investments, maybe even banks. So imagine.
>>491379Ok hear me out folks.
I think this is going to become chechen wars 3, kazakh boogaloo.
I mean, there's so much shit going on, and a coalition of countries going full in against protesters…
This is gonna lead up to an armed confrontation which will lead up to a major shitshow.
Although I don't know if the protesters will go all islamist like in chechenia or syria, but shit's going down fast.
>>490941lmao
underrated post
>>491386And yet when I said that the Grayzone glows
for the US, I got yelled at.
>>491386Can't wait for Maupin's big brain take.
>>491390Because Grayzone glows for the Russians.
>>491386Awesome, we know now these people are glowing.>>491386
>Take Putin cock out of your ass for 1 second and give some real analysis of what is going ont. liberal CIA spook.
>>491394Fighting back against a government isn't intended to be peaceful. That in itself is liberalism to believe you need peaceful handholding marches
You really take it seriously that Ben Norton is mad that protestors destroy shit? Since when does a leftist care about such acts? This is the language of hand wringing right wingers who cry about law and order and needing police to crack down on the dirty hooligans causing trouble.
>>491398Pretty much.
Their are good, not 100% right all of the time, specially in things like this.
The khazhaks are demolishing hotels (or at least a bank)
>>491410>archiving 10k+ posts of retards flinging memes at each otherfug off
I trust the staff to take the right decision and cycling this shit thread until the meme dies off
>>491386Those are just objective facts.
Cope and seethe you imperialist cuck. It's not your country burning.
>>491418This. The westerners are happy seeing a "liberal being toppled", never do shit in their country, yet it can end as ukraine, just to encircle more and more the anti-imperialist Russia.
Hopefully CTSO gets things back on track.
>>491410I am archiving them at least while stuff is happening like with the Afghanistan threads.
>>491422Okay boss. Locked and conversation continues in new thread, can still reply to posts here by linking post number or >>>/leftypol_archive/xxxxx for the archived threads.
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