This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.
To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.
The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.
What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.
Link to last thread archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210109172410/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/1059488.htmlThe thread from which it was born:
https://archive.fo/GSZBbIf anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.
Fresh Material courtesy of a Based Anon:
https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/19031454.former-lib-dem-candidate-now-far-right-racist-organiser/https://www.vice.com/en/article/4adn9p/he-stood-for-election-for-a-mainstream-political-party-now-hes-a-far-right-organiser
>NICK HILL (CENTRE LEFT IN THE PHOTO) WITH CONVICTED CHILD SEX OFFENDER JAMES SHAND AT A PATRIOTIC ALTERNATIVE EVENT IN KENT IN OCTOBER.More New Material: <br/><br/><br/>In this podcast, Azov Battalion are discussed, and their possible funding by a Jewish Zionist. It is already known that they carry Israeli Rifles, very difficult to get anywhere outside of Israel, and that they are openly paid by US congress, who work closely with Israel. <br/><br/><a href="
https://soundcloud.com/popularfrontcast/104-the-rise-of-ukraines-azov-battalion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://soundcloud.com/popularfrontcast/104-the-rise-of-ukraines-azov-battalion</a>The US military picked up most of it's horrific interrogation from this Pinochet era nazi compound and government blacksite<br/><a href="
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_Dignidad" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_Dignidad</a><br/>Abu Gharib followed what these guys did down to the creepy looking hoods
<a onclick="highlightReply('56299', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#56299">>>56299</a><br/>I'm reading The Psychopathic God by Robert G. L. Waite, arguably the greatest biography of Hitler ever written. It is a psychobiography, applying psychological analysis to get at what made him tick. No wonder creeps find him inspiring. What a weirdo!<br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Claims to have eaten 2lbs of chocolate regularly</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>> Believed an actual fountain of youth existed, contemplated sending an expedition to Tibet to discover it</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>One of his all time favorite movies was Disney's Snow White, which he watched many times</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Was obsessed with death, coveting the painting The Plague in Florence by Hans Makart</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>> Rarely if ever laughed, issued strange guttural barking sounds instead, possibly because of his damaged vocal chords from a gas attack in WW1 which gave him his characteristic scratchy voice</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Reputed monorchid, had only one testicle</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>> Obsessed with hands, pampered his own hands and judged others based on their hands, even promoting people on this basis</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>> Enjoyed to tricking his subordinates with little practical jokes</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>> Vegetarian, creepily referred to carnivores as "corpse eaters"</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>> Hypnotizing light blue eyes, nearly everyone he met was struck by them</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>> Chronophobe, feared and hated time, would try to blur whether it was day or night by keeping the curtains up during the day</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>> Terrified of being alone at night. Forced one of his subordinates to stay with him until dawn while he slept.</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>> Obsessed with American westerns and cowboys</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Was calm and composed when dealing with serious matters like the course of the war, lost his temper and went crazy when someone forgot to bring him mineral water</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Flew into rages if anyone laughed at something he said</span>
<a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/kimberly-guilfoyle-sexual-harassment-allegations-get-even-darker" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/kimberly-guilfoyle-sexual-harassment-allegations-get-even-darker</a><br/><br/>Don Junior's girlfriend Kimberlely Guilfoyle accussed in sexual harrassment lawsuit, apparently she forced female assistants to look at her naked, as well as forcing everyone in her office to look at dick pics of men she fucked. <br/><br/>Don Junior, CUCKED. <br/><br/>Also on the cuck list: Roger Stone, key Trump and Reagan aid and political fixer, who came up with the "make america great again" slogan, put classified ads out in the 90's for somebody, specifically a black man, to fuck his wife. <br/><br/>So too Paul Manafort, pro Trump republican lobbyist, was found to be forcing his wife to fuck black men in front of him, this came out through leaked text from his kids. This thread seems to be the catchall for this, but I've noticed a general trend from when I used to browse gore sites and since I'm also into a lot of fetish stuff those kinds of sites too that a lot of people who tend to be deep into reactionary ideas are usual somewhat….craven. Like, why is it that you rarely hear of (actual) leftists doing weird shit? <br/><br/>In addition, I work with an actual /pol/tard and watching him is honestly fascinating. The other night he was loudly vocalizing his desire to beat up customers he dislikes, and he will frequently fly into temper tantrums and fits of rage at perceived slights and when dealing with lesser injuries, passive aggresive invective. In between his beast like fury he maintains a very suburban, polite veneer of civility that only thinly manages to conceal his contempt for his fellow man.<br/><br/>Greatest hits of weird shit I have gotten out of him<br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Alluding to white genocide in front of normies twice</span><br/><span class="quote">>helicopter jokes</span><br/><span class="quote">>many, many antisemetic jokes, including directly at the new Jewish girl in our department</span><br/><span class="quote">>calling Mexicans (in front of me, a Mexican American) a less civilized race despite being half Mexican</span><br/><span class="quote">>long homophobic rants about how marriage is between man and a woman</span><br/><span class="quote">>referring to literally every customer who isn't white as animals when they do stupid shit, but excusing white customers who do (often even more) retarded shit</span><br/><span class="quote">>comparing Mean Girls to white genocide (???)</span><br/><span class="quote">>Obersturmfuhrer (insert pol idiots name) would be a good title for me</span><br/><span class="quote">>Saying every single human on the planet is disposable trash</span><br/><span class="quote">>calling people "girly" despite pushing nearly 380lbs and not in a good way</span><br/><br/>All that is funny I guess, but what is most curious to me is how openly and nakedly authoritarian he is. There's all of those above statements that betray a deep resentment and almost unrestrained rage at life itself, and despite being an obese alchoholic with anger issues I find it super fucking weird how all these types are always about law and order despite themselves not actually embodying or even liking to conform to the rigid expectations they set out for others.<br/><br/>I think the funniest thing about this guy is to go up to him and ask him about his thoughts on death. I told him I don't believe in an afterlife and I explained the concept of eternal oblivion and he sounded pretty frightened by it (which is normal, I guess) but you then contrast this fear of death itself with an almost gleeful affinity for violence and you really have to wonder if the core of the reactionary soul is just a series of tensions inside someone who is essentially a caveman trying to adapt to modernity…<br/><br/>Also, this guy: <a href="
https://www.scribd.com/document/451029711/THE-BEST-OF-BALD-AND-BANKRUPT" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://www.scribd.com/document/451029711/THE-BEST-OF-BALD-AND-BANKRUPT</a><br/><br/>Travel Youtuber who is apparently hiding his career as a serial rapist/sex tourist, and BIG surprise he is also into far right ideas. Why?
<span class="heading"> stealing a post from some based anon in the Dugin thread </span><br/><br/><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avigdor_Eskin" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avigdor_Eskin</a><br/><span class="quote">>Eskin has close ties to Russian political analyst Aleksandr Dugin, having previously served on the central committee of Dugin's Eurasia Party.[11]</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Avigdor Eskin (born 26 April 1960) is Russian-Israeli conservative journalist and political activist. Born in Moscow in the Soviet Union, Eskin emigrated to Israel where he became involved in right-wing politics. He currently resides in Jerusalem. </span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>He became an Orthodox Jew and committed Zionist.</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Despite harassment by the KGB, Eskin participated in Zionist activities.</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>In Israel, Eskin did military service in the Israel Defense Forces as part of the Hesder program, which combines regular military service with religious studies.[3]</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Eskin was a founder of Israeli New Right movement together with the former MK Michael Kleiner and was behind the alliance between the Israeli right and American conservatives, led by senator Jesse Helms. Additionally, he organised the arms supply to the anti-communist guerrillas in Nicaragua. The most controversial of his activities was his support of the White regime in South Africa due to its staunch anti-communist politics, until its collapse in the early 1990s. </span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>In 1999, Eskin defiled the grave of Izz al-Din al-Qassam: He placed a pig's head on the grave.</span><br/><br/><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izz_ad-Din_al-Qassam" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izz_ad-Din_al-Qassam</a><br/><span class="orangeQuote"><Izz ad-Din Abd al-Qadar ibn Mustafa ibn Yusuf ibn Muhammad al-Qassam (1881[1] or 19 December 1882 [2][3] – 20 November 1935) (Arabic: / ALA-LC: ʿIzz ad-Dīn ibn Abd al-Qāder ibn Mustafa ibn Yūsuf ibn Muhammad al-Qassām) was a Syrian Muslim preacher, and a leader in the local struggles against British and French Mandatory rule in the Levant, and a militant opponent of Zionism in the 1920s and 1930s. </span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Eskin frequently lectures in Russia on political science and theological matters. He is liked within the Russian conservative circles, due to his staunch support of Vladimir Putin, and his anti-Ukrainian, anti-Georgian, and anti-Estonian stance.[1][9][10]</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Eskin is active in South African politics, frequently visiting the country, and working as an activist for Afrikaners' rights. In this role, he has caused diplomatic incidents, notably when describing Desmond Tutu as a fascist who is oppressing the Afrikaner people.[13] </span><br/><br/><span class="heading"> additional note </span><br/><br/>as previously documented, Dugin himself is a fed, a Nazi, and there is a video of him performing a black mass, this Eskin character seems to tie together all the different threads. I'll go ahead and surmise he is also probably a pedophile <a onclick="highlightReply('93936', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#93936">>>93936</a><br/><span class="quote">>On 1 February 2000, Kleiner pulled out of the National Union, establishing Herut as an independent party in the Knesset. In the 2003 elections the party ran alone. It chose the ballot letters נץ, meaning "hawk", and used the slogan "the 'hawkiest' on the right". Kleiner led the list, with Baruch Marzel, a former member of the outlawed Kach party taking second place. The party won 36,202 votes, though it was only 1.1% of the total, and not enough to pass the 1.5% electoral threshold. Soon after Marzel left to found his own party, the Jewish National Front.</span>
<a onclick="highlightReply('93967', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#93967">>>93967</a><br/>He's very polite and "nice" when he's not being insane, and is at the very least smart enough to know when to act like a lunatic. He gets really weird whenever we have to do workplace harassment trainings. One of my coworkers was doing one of those on the computer once and he comes up behind them and he's like, "Hey are you learning it's not OK to be racist? That you can't call Italians spaghetti mick wops?" and my coworker is like WTF and kinda laughs it off. <br/><br/>I'm actually surprised of how tolerant people are of his BS, but he's our supervisor so no one wants to really rock the boat. He's very predictable and it's fairly obvious when he's about to say something fucked so I'm probably going to start recording him in secret and get him fired. I remember he "joked" that he tried to get his girlfriends dad deported. Besides the racist thing he's just a nasty fucking person and I've pointed out to my coworkers how fucked up the shit he says is but they seem much more forgiving. Honestly, most burgers don't really realize how truly vile fascists are so it's to be expected. Kind of the liberal "you're entitled to your opinion" thing going on. <br/><br/>I think he might eventually get fired though, he's had violent outbursts every now and then. One of our coworkers (who he dislikes) needed some help once and he just fucking lost it and started punching the walls and doors and shit. <br/><br/>The dude gave me serious creep vibes even before I know he was a /pol/tard tbh, he has mass shooter energy<br/><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('94209', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#94209">>>94209</a><br/>Believe it or not, his friends are even worse. They all also VLOG, and they are all pedophiles. At least Bald sticks to 16+ girls, the rest go for literal children
I reversed image searched everything now, the one pic of the circle of mayos leads to this deleted twitter account:<br/><a href="
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/src/1615366015494-2.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/src/1615366015494-2.jpg</a><br/><br/>named SecretSHHiety<br/>SS<br/>HH<br/><br/>It's full of scripture and Q shit and also "corona is fake" shit, is it a Nazi attempt at sowing discord?
<a onclick="highlightReply('112993', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#112993">>>112993</a><br/>Theistic, there are several orgs like temple of set, dragon rouge, temple.of blacklight, ascending flame project, etc etc.<br/><br/>I'm too poor to join an org but have pirated my way through nine years of theistic Satanism, mostly dragon rouge books and I plan on joining them when I have the dish despite the red flags.<br/><br/>Here are my thoughts on each org:<br/>Temple of set: some great people but lower quality publications, the fact Aquino was openly a flower makes me turn up my nose.<br/><br/>Dragon Rouge: This is it. The primo LHP experience if you want to hurt no one and listen to metal all day and feel like THE CHRISTIANS are always trying to get you. <br/><br/>Temple of blacklight: Truth is I have no idea what happened to these guys, they came out swinging with some good stuff but they also had a bunch of eye rolling shit later on about CULLING THE WEACK despite hating the entire structure of the universe and blaming it on the demiurge.<br/><br/>Ascending flame project: They are iffy and lower quality, but its fucking free! Free stuff is the ultimate selling point.<br/><br/>And here at the bottom I will put in the Gossip tier:<br/>ONA, very clearly an op. Not much to say that hasn't already been said. If you think Satanism is like in movies made by Catholics than ONA is for you anyway.
<a onclick="highlightReply('113413', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#113413">>>113413</a><br/>If you go back into the archived threads it’s all there, particularly in the article on medium that is linked “the truth about the alt right a destruction by facts and logic”. <br/><br/>But basically <br/>1) David Myatt, the founder of the group, was deeply involved in the British far right. This by itself is evidence. <br/>2) On top of this, he and many of his mentors were involved in fed groups such as “the league of empire loyalists”. Google them, as well as many others. <br/>3) on top of that, he himself was involved in loyalist paramilitaries, which were literally all MI6 ops, who sent troops to Israel etc. <br/>3) on top of loyalist paramilitaries, he was also a member of column 88, which was a Nazi paramilitary/ street gang organisation which was set up under operation Gladio, if you don’t know what Gladio is, just ask. <br/>4) the 09A were deeply involved in AWD, which was a bunch of feds. <br/>5) he regularly associated with old actual Nazis who escaped to various places such as Egypt and continued to do intelligence work <br/>6) a wealth of circumstantial evidence, including the actual make up and beliefs of O9A which more or less align entirely with the CIA strategy of tension, creation of MKULTRA’d assets and extreme physical training, as well as the fact that the actions they take are directed against the left. <br/>7) the entire far right from hitler onwards is an OP<br/><br/>I’m sure there is a bunch I’ve missed out but it’s been a year since I wrote the article
Ok Hold on a sec i just stumbled upon something that is genuinely fucking spooky.<br/><br/>So in 1975 this guy named Mike Aquino who was at the time both a high-up member of Anton Levay's satanic temple (Aquino apparently basically wrote the newsletters and little news-alerts Levay would mail to all the church's subscribers or whatever the fuck) and ALSO a member of the Military Intelligence who specialised in the FIELD OF PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE Split and formed his own religious oganisation called the "Temple of set" (<a href="
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Set" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Set</a>) Now a few years after this in the 80s this guy came forward and said he had been abducted by Anton-Levay and Mike Aquino (Who the guy claims that Levay would always speak to like he was his superior "Yes Sir" "Yes Colonel." etc.) and they did psychological warfare shit on him in the form of satanic ritual basically.<br/><br/>Now whats fucking crazy is the US government actually gave the guy a million dollars to fuck off with a kurt statment that basically said "We admit the party has been wronged by the US government in some way but we reserve the fact he would not likely be able to prove any criminal activity occurred against him on the orders of Mike Aquino or any other members of US military intelligence"
<a onclick="highlightReply('177212', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#177212">>>177212</a><br/>Hey does this count.<br/><span class="quote"><br/>>Chris Simcox founded the Civil Homeland Defense organization, being the first antecedent of the group to patrol the borders, but were disbanded after his first arrest. April 1, 2005, the group renaming the group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps was a militia organization concerned with border security that invokes the image of Revolutionary War militiamen and traces his motivation to "protect the american borders",ready at a moment's notice to fight for America's freedom. Although the majority of the group's members are Caucasians, some Mexican Americans work to patrol the borders as well, deeply the organization's call to protect legal immigration as a measure to protect American society and resources, approximately 900 volunteers patrol a twenty-three-mile section of the Arizona-Mexico border.[5][6] The MCDC is often confused with or thought to be affiliated with The Minuteman Project Inc., but the two groups are wholly distinct. The militants have been accused of racial profiling, however, approaching persons of color, asking whether they speak English, asking where they live, and questioning them while not quizzing Caucasians in the same areas.[7] The group was originally co-founded by American neo-Nazi, J. T. Ready.[8][9]</span><br/><span class="quote"><br/>>On June 8, 2016, Minuteman Civil Defense Corps co-founder Chris Simcox was found guilty of child molestation,[14] and on July 11, 2016, was sentenced to serve 19.5 years in an Arizona prison.[15]</span><br/><br/><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160608221415/http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/8/chris-simcox-minuteman-civil-defense-corps-co-foun/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20160608221415/http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/8/chris-simcox-minuteman-civil-defense-corps-co-foun/</a><br/><br/>It's not exactly a Nazi group. This is probably only tangentially interesting to some people here, but there is a small, but perhaps growing subculture of people in the "manosphere", particularly in the strength training community who seem to be radicalizing into outright fascism.<br/><br/><a href="
https://www.scotthambrick.com/article/lets-think-about-the-right-not-conservatism/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://www.scotthambrick.com/article/lets-think-about-the-right-not-conservatism/</a><br/><br/>I spend a lot of time on weightlifting groups on FB and other sites and it's just fucking rife with insane people. If you go on the Starring Strength youtube channel and click around for a little while on some of the comments you can find a handful of neo-Nazis or other rightist kooks.<br/><br/><br/>There was also a whole, MASSIVE network of extremely weird and fucked up "<span class="heading">RETVRN TO TRVDITION</span>" pages on Facebook that I discovered about a year or two ago (probably gone in the great purge) that I wish I could find again because it was that aesthetic but wrapped up with weightlifting and fitness and they had huge followings. Posts by the page I saw was shit like, "DRINK YOUR MILK AND EAT RED MEAT THREE TIMES A DAY, AVOID GMOS AND LIFT. READ EVOLA" and they all had like 300 comments or more sometimes<br/><br/>It was fucking terrifying lmao
<a onclick="highlightReply('306114', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#306114">>>306114</a><br/><span class="quote">>No, they aren't, and their definition of "live with their own kind" is violently removing anyone who isn't.</span><br/>Yes they are. First of all, I'm from the EU, 2nd largest group of users after USA. No one asked me if I want millions of Ahmeds to come and literally behead school teachers, and rape and murder women. I do not. I wish them no harm I just want them to go back to their country. Only those really fleeing from war are welcome, until said war ends. And as far as I know, only war zones atm are Yemen and Palestine, Syria - last event was summer 2020, refugees returning, Afganistan - US troops pulled out.<br/><span class="quote">>Bullshit</span><br/>On what grounds? On your prejudiced view of anyone who says they don't want their kids raped and murdered when stats show that's literally what's happening?
<a onclick="highlightReply('306145', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#306145">>>306145</a><br/><span class="quote">>Yes they are. First of all, I'm from the EU, 2nd largest group of users after USA. No one asked me if I want millions of Ahmeds to come and literally behead school teachers, and rape and murder women. I do not. I wish them no harm I just want them to go back to their country. Only those really fleeing from war are welcome, until said war ends. And as far as I know, only war zones atm are Yemen and Palestine, Syria - last event was summer 2020, refugees returning, Afganistan - US troops pulled out.</span><br/>Literally most migrants are a result of imperialism both the US and most of Europe engaged in. Saying "war over, go back" is no different then stating "we just finished making your country a destabilized shithole and ruining your infrastructure, now go back". You say you don't wish them any harm, but what if they refuse to go back? Will you inflict harm on them then? And it's not millions raping and killing, it's statistically a minor few as with most people. Just arrest and remove those ones, and leave the rest. <br/><span class="quote">>On what grounds? On your prejudiced view of anyone who says they don't want their kids raped and murdered when stats show that's literally what's happening?</span><br/>It's bullshit because thats not even the core reason /pol/ cares, and I spent more then enough time on the right to understand that. It was never about rapes or bombings or whatever, the vast majority would still be calling for expulsion regardless if those occured or not.
<a onclick="highlightReply('306185', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#306185">>>306185</a><br/><span class="quote">>Literally most migrants are a result of imperialism both the US and most of Europe engaged in. Saying "war over, go back" is no different then stating "we just finished making your country a destabilized shithole and ruining your infrastructure, now go back". </span><br/>This is a fair point with which I agree to a point. No one asked anyone in my country if we want to be a part of the NATO pact. No one asked me if I want to bomb those poor souls. But just because they suffered doesn't mean I need to as well, and from the same imperialist hand.<br/><br/>Your logic is "the empire killed the people of Nigeria and now it should kill the people of the U.K.". They're not raping soldiers or presidents, but regular plebs who already hate their government and don't approve of what it's doing.<br/><span class="quote"><br/>>You say you don't wish them any harm, but what if they refuse to go back? Will you inflict harm on them then? And it's not millions raping and killing, it's statistically a minor few as with most people. Just arrest and remove those ones, and leave the rest. </span><br/>I will not inflict harm, I will board them on a plane and ship them off to their homeland.<br/>Show me those nonexistent stats please. And after you don't find them explain this to me:<br/><br/>If a people are known as violent, hateful and rapey towards the domicile population and there have already been thousands of incidents, WHY ON EARTH SHOULD WE RISK IT?!<br/>Why would I let in even one Ahmed (that is not fleeing from war) if he is a potential threat to the domicile population?<br/>Why would I risk my sister being raped, my teacher being beheaded for some rando from far far away who hates my culture and my people and just wants more monetary wealth?<br/>Why can't I help him in his country? Why does he have to come here?<br/><span class="quote"><br/>> It was never about rapes or bombings or whatever, the vast majority would still be calling for expulsion regardless if those occured or not.</span><br/><br/>I disagree and I've been a poltard for 4 years.
<a onclick="highlightReply('306251', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#306251">>>306251</a><br/>Well then I hate to break it to you, but under a system that demands endless growth, globalization and imperialism was the natural end point. The magical "stable" capitalism that you can keep on a leash doesn't exist, and the only countries that were able to tame porky and regulate capitalism a bit only did so because they had the Soviet Union knocking on their door. The closest thing to what you describe is China, which I don't think you intended. If you do legitimately hold those beliefs, then you are against capitalism. If you support capitalism, then you do support everything that comes with it: imperialism, wealth disparity, poverty, hunger, etc.
<a onclick="highlightReply('306224', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#306224">>>306224</a><br/><span class="quote">>This is a fair point with which I agree to a point. No one asked anyone in my country if we want to be a part of the NATO pact. No one asked me if I want to bomb those poor souls. But just because they suffered doesn't mean I need to as well, and from the same imperialist hand.</span><br/>Then campaign against capitalism, not the migrants you idiot. <br/><span class="quote">>Your logic is "the empire killed the people of Nigeria and now it should kill the people of the U.K.". They're not raping soldiers or presidents, but regular plebs who already hate their government and don't approve of what it's doing.</span><br/>No, I'm staying that you have plenty of people leaving the abhorrent conditions created by the west, most of which aren't committing and don't commit what you are stating. Now as Zizek says, "poverty does not create noble people", but that still doesn't mean I support them being removed.<br/><span class="quote">>I will not inflict harm, I will board them on a plane and ship them off to their homeland.</span><br/>And how will you do that if they don't want to go? C'mon, you know the answer. <br/><span class="quote">>Show me those nonexistent stats please. And after you don't find them explain this to me:</span><br/>Show me the stats where its the avst majority, or even millions, first. <br/><span class="quote">>If a people are known as violent, hateful and rapey towards the domicile population and there have already been thousands of incidents, WHY ON EARTH SHOULD WE RISK IT?! Why would I let in even one Ahmed (that is not fleeing from war) if he is a potential threat to the domicile population? Why would I risk my sister being raped, my teacher being beheaded for some rando from far far away who hates my culture and my people and just wants more monetary wealth? Why can't I help him in his country? Why does he have to come here?</span><br/>They are there though, and their country is already ruined. You can't fix something post-hoc, the country is already in a terrible condition. If you want to head over there to help, be my guest. But nothing will consequently change until imperialism by extension capitalism is done away with. I don't treat every migrant as a potential threat, I treat them as they are themselves. And the risk argument is meaningless, because as long as we are in this system, mass migration will be a thing that exists. <br/><span class="quote">>I disagree and I've been a poltard for 4 years</span><br/>I disagree and I literally frequented around 8/pol/ and /fascist/, which an election baby like you probably didn't even know about until it was shut down. I was even on 4/pol/ before it became more of the shithole it is now post-2016.
<a onclick="highlightReply('306398', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#306398">>>306398</a><br/><span class="quote">>That's not capitalism's fault. It's unchecked totalitarianism masquerading as democracy. I seriously don't understand you people.</span><br/>It literally is capitalism. Do you understand what capitalism is? <br/><span class="quote">>While I do agree unchecked capitalism is utter shit and people like Bezos shouldn't exist, I definitely don't think electing one single Bezos to regulate all the wealth of a nation and its trade is a sane idea.</span><br/>How is socialist state utilizing planning in any way comparable to Bezos? Again, do you even understand what capitalism is? Capitalism, even regulated capitalism, inevitably leads back to the same situation we find ourselves in now, and regulation doesn't do shit because it fundamentally misunderstands what the state is and how the system shapes it. <br/><span class="quote">>Show proof or fuck off with that argument. I have around 100 articles totaling 2000 deaths and 10 000ish rapes. I also have a study published by Swedish scientists looking at their stats and 60% of rapes are commited by people with a migrant background. You literally don't want to know the truth.</span><br/><span class="quote">><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20961790.2020.1868681" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20961790.2020.1868681</a></span><br/>You said millions you faggot. I didn't deny that some immigrants may be criminals, I denied that most were criminals. And your study is far more nuanced in how it clarifies migrant background, because not all migrants are from the middle east like you make it out to be. Again though, I don't deny there are migrant criminals, but that wasn't the point of the argument. <br/><span class="quote">>Ah yes, you are super smart. If a man breaks into my house and steals my food I'm not allowed to throw him the fuck out.</span><br/>But they aren't. They migrated, and if they don't want to leave, you will have to harm them to try and move them. <a onclick="highlightReply('306424', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#306424">>>306424</a><br/>I don't even know how to explain it so you can understand, it's like I'm speaking to a toddler.<br/>Regions like Africa and the Middle East are rich in resources. Keeping the countries poor and undeveloped allows the capitalists of the West to extract said resources for cheap and exploit the local population. Keeping up so far? Well, turns out living in shit motivates the locals to migrate to richer countries, like the West, who then use them as cheap labour, further growing their own profits. If you don't see how this is related to the economic system, and don't understand how "the elite" you mention was created and actively benefits from this economic system, then you are economically, politically, and probably literally illiterate. Stop browsing pol and please pick up literally any book, your brain is dying
<a onclick="highlightReply('306412', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#306412">>>306412</a><br/><span class="quote">>What is the Holodomor and who is Solzhenitsyn?</span><br/>Again, didn't happen. "Holodomor" is term which describes a genocide, which the famine was not. Solzhenitsyn is fiction author who's wife admitted to him embellishing and who even himself denied the holodomor. <br/><span class="quote">>Enlighten me then.</span><br/>Deportations happened, but they happend in the context of war and in trying to provide a short term solution to reactionary counter-revolutionary sentiment. It was not something done to remove certain ethnic populations for the reason of them being a certain ethnicity. Republics were also not ethnostates, and people could move freely between them as long as they possessed identification. Living in republics just required you to first make a request in terms of employment and for housing availability to taken into account first. If extra housing was available and your credentials met the need for labour, you could move. <br/><span class="quote">>Let me tell you without reading propaganda. Imperialism is conquering other countries for your own benefit and wealth. Yugoslavia did it, the USSR did it, the UK did it, the USA is doing it.</span><br/>That's not what imperialism is. Try again. Also, the USSR and Yugoslavia didn't invade for wealth. <br/><span class="quote">>Yes they preferred socialism for many reasons which you will never acknowledge</span><br/>What, like actual economic stability, guaranteed employment, and housing built with community and services in mind?<br/><span class="quote">>Agrarian communities were the norm in USSR and Yugoslavia. Which means small ethnically and culturally identical units working in tandem for the betterment of the group.</span><br/>Do you literally think the USSR and Yugoslavia didn't have cities? Did you learn anything about these places after industrialization? <br/><span class="quote">>People were poor as fuck mostly (unless card carrying politbureau member), and weren't propagandized 24/7 with the new iphone plus 19854959 or the need to live in a palace and drive a ferrari. E.g. they were content with what they had and didn't ask for much more aside from a pack of smokes.</span><br/>People were not "poor as fuck". In fact, wages were pretty comparable to many other western countries.<br/><span class="quote">>And I will concede one point, housing was cheaper and easier to obtain, BUT most people built those houses themselves because they weren't useless retards like most of people today.</span><br/>You idiot, do you even know what Khrushchyovka and all the evolutions of apartments after it were?
NTA<br/><a onclick="highlightReply('307237', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#307237">>>307237</a><br/><span class="quote">>Yes the elite benefits, they would benefit as well under literally any other system, because ANY system in the universe can (and if the elite is evil) WILL invade other countries for profit to the detriment of its own people sometimes.</span><br/>This isn't an economic analysis anon, this is idealistic moralizing about history. The question is why systems become the way they are, and what shapes it as a whole. Your argument is nothing more then "bad people appeared one day, bad thing happens". Its not an actual analysis of anything. <br/><span class="quote">>Was Rome capitalist? English monarchs are also capitalists? USSR was capitalist? China of today is also capitalist?</span><br/>No, but all of that misses the point, which is that imperialism is economically inevitable and integral to capitalism. Simply pointing out other states, empires, or places doesn't change this. The USSR was also not imperialist.<br/><span class="quote">>I think you're the one with brain rot not me.</span><br/>I don't think you understand anything that is actually being discussed, and have jumped into board in an attempt to make discussion about concepts you have not read about, but would like to present yourself as knowledgeable of like any other pseud.
<a onclick="highlightReply('307289', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#307289">>>307289</a><br/><span class="quote">>Can you not even entertain the thought that I'm right? All you claim is "you're wrong! because reasons I can't explain".</span><br/>I did entertain it, it's not a new thought. You're still wrong, for reasons that have literally been explained. Capitalism as a system necessitates imperialism due to the core mechanisms of the system itself. <br/><span class="quote">>I already said, I'm not a capitalist, I'm anti authoritarian. </span><br/>You defended the system of capitalism. That makes you a capitalist in terms of ideological support for the system.<br/><span class="quote">>You seem to be bringing everything to the lowest common denominator - system bad. Which just isn't true.</span><br/>It's not "system bad", it's "system inevitably results in certain actions being undertaken by capitalists due to the concentration of production, the monopolistic tendency, and the dominance of finance capitalism, all which is predicated on the the circuit of capital, with imperialism itself acting as a buoy to the falling rate of profit."
<a onclick="highlightReply('307289', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#307289">>>307289</a><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('307298', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#307298">>>307298</a><br/><span class="quote">>No it isn't. It's integral to greedy assholes wanting more than their fair share. Why did the USSR and Cuba support counter revolutionaries in Africa? Goodwill, love of the people? Ofcourse not, they wanted influence and power. Which would make them imperialist. Or, since those nations were being taken over by imperialists, counter imperialists who are also imperialists.</span><br/>Influence and power are not inherently imperialist. Any revolutionary state seeks these things. Supporting counter revolutionaries, while a mistake politically, isn't imperialist though. And if "greedy assholes" can act to undue a condemn a country to revisionism, if that is the case, then it also still a systemic problem, because the system allowed them to get there in the first place. I don't pretend the USSR was perfect, but it was a lot better and got further then what came after. The USSR still had potantial to correct course and address the issues that had been growing in the system, but now it's dead and Eastern Europe is worse off for it.
<a onclick="highlightReply('307420', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#307420">>>307420</a><br/>Yeah, I thought this would be your conclusion kek "durr they're poor cause they're nig nogs". But that wasn't the point I was making, because I was referring to the fact that the West purposefully keeps Africa poor to keep getting their resources for cheap, and actively stopped them from forging their own destinies and "getting rich", as we've seen in Libya, Burqina Faso, etc. It's not even something unique to Africa, we see this anywhere from Eastern Europe to Latin America, although to a lesser degree. But given that you are literally denying the effect imperialism and colonialism has had on Africa, I'm starting to feel you might be just genuinely retarded and I wasted my time talking to you lmao. If you don't even get the correlation between poverty and education, intelligence etc. then God help you. Don't complain when you get taken over by the Chinese Ubermensch
So I've been reading Lenni Brenner's "Zionism in the Age of Dictators" <br/><br/>Brenner was Jewish, A Trot, and good Friends with Stokely Carmichael, together they founded 'The Comittee Against Zionism and Racism' <br/><br/>In the book, Brenner spells out, in detail, the relationships between the Nazi and Fascist movements and Zionism. He discusses the similarity in ideology, and the Zionist mindset, which he contends is anti semitic, as it inherently sees Jews as a people who will always be othered, and must therefore have a state of their own, rather than assimilating. (This is a tldr of the whole much more fleshed out idea). <br/><br/> As well as this, as I said, he documents their material relationships. As it turns out, the Nazis in a huge way helped build Israel, through the Haavara agreement, a trade deal which saw huge amounts of German capital flow into Israel. <br/><br/>to quote Brenner: <br/><span class="quote"><br/>>The top limit through the Ha’avara scheme was 50,000 marks ($20,000 or £4,000) per emigrant, which made the Ha’avara unattractive to the richest Jews. Therefore only $40,419,000 went to Palestine via Ha’avara, whereas $650 million went to the United States, $60 million to the United Kingdom and other substantial sums elsewhere. Yet if, in terms of German Jewry’s wealth, Ha’avara was by no means decisive, it was crucial to Zionism. Some 60 per cent of all capital invested in Palestine between August 1933 and September 1939 was channelled through the agreement with the Nazis.[20] In addition, the British set the annual Jewish immigrant quota, using the weak economic absorptive capacity of the country to limit their number; however, “capitalists” – those bringing in over £1,000 ($5,000) – were allowed in over quota. The 16,529 capitalists were thus an additional source of immigrants as well as an economic harvest for Zionism. Their capital generated a boom, giving Palestine a wholly artificial prosperity in the midst of the world-wide Depression.</span><br/><br/><a href="
https://www.thestruggle.org/Zi_Age_Dictators.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://www.thestruggle.org/Zi_Age_Dictators.pdf</a><br/><br/>You can find the book here.
<a onclick="highlightReply('314855', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#314855">>>314855</a><br/>Bro, that is an amazing observation, that now seems so obvious I don't understand how I haven't noticed it ever before. Contrast this to Soviet posters. I went googling explicitly for Soviet war propaganda, and couldn't find one poster where the eyes are darkened. <br/><br/>Not only are the eyes covered, but the face is completely expressionless. The depiction is deliberately lifeless, completely and totally idealized, erasing the individual even in close up. Soviet propaganda poster, however, zooms in on the individual human in the uniform, drawing special attention to the emotional expression. <br/><br/>For the Communist - a worker, a peasant or a poor student - individuality does not exist in the normal (in the case of the Soviets, former) capitalist order. You're treated like a piece of machinery or an animal or a resource by the exploiters. Individuality and humanity is only achieved through the collective which gives you the power to defend your freedom and insert your human dignity. For the Nazi - who's a petty bourgeois, a white collar clerk, a member of the intelligentsia - individuality and "freedom" are always there, and much boasted about, but in reality it's a source of anxiety and bitterness. The individuality capitalist relations have afforded them is atomized and alienating, while at the same leaving them individually responsible for their well being and well being of others - or so they feel. Thus, for all their talk of the "mindless communist horde" there's no greater fantasy for the Nazi but to let go of their human individuality and lose themselves in the mindless collective. <br/><br/>Nazism truly is a perverted parody of Communism. This is the real humans vs orcs shit right here.
<a onclick="highlightReply('350114', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#350114">>>350114</a><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('355324', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#355324">>>355324</a><br/>Yeah, once you recognize it, you'll see it everywhere. The Nazis are like "eyes wide shut." I'm not read up enough on aesthetic theory, but it might be somewhat subconscious or spontaneous, as if the aesthetic themes spontaneously regenerate themselves and take on a life of their own or just resonate in their brains. So that fashwave art contains themes that are common in Nazi art in the 1930s, but the form it takes is retro-80s noir imagery so it synchronizes / updates with the times.<br/><br/>If you look at communist posters from the Soviet Union, the emphasis is often on the eyes which are wide open. The "five heads" with Marx, Engels, etc. will have each face lined up at eye level. I think the emphasis on the eyes is also intended to impart wisdom, truth, intelligence, vigilance, etc. And light. Communist art tends to be very bright, and the sun (sometimes blindingly so) is another recurring motif that you'll start seeing everywhere once you start noticing. I'd almost liken communism to a modern-day solar religion or something. Chinese communist posters during Mao would often have a big sun in the center of the image with Mao's face within it.<br/><br/>The Nazis, on the other hand, have the "black sun." The sun is blacked out.<br/><br/>Here's some contemporary Indian communist music. The video is interesting because they show you these very expressive faces with the people staring directly at you.<br/><br/>I'll try to find some more examples of these things.
An anon posting an archive of Nazi-era propaganda and I've been looking through it and noticing a lot more of the creepy esoteric themes, such as the cloaked and shadowed eyes.<br/><br/>Here's the archive:<br/><br/><a href="
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/</a><br/><br/>Gonna dump a bunch of examples of weird stuff. Just focusing on some propaganda images for now, but one of the most disturbing things in there are charts laying out their theory that "genetically ill" people are a cost to the state – i.e. physically and mentally handicapped people, who were exterminated.
<a onclick="highlightReply('357538', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#357538">>>357538</a><br/>Oh sure they did, most of them "hated Trump" until it was time to shill for him on election season. Like bro, most of us were there, we saw how /pol/ had the dancing Trump video stickied to play on the board when he won, there's no use denying it. I get that they "hate Trump" on a theoretical level, but whenever it counts, they shill for him en masse. It's like how fascist theory is very critical of capitalism, but the second a fascist government takes power, they actively collude with the industrialists and mass-privatize industry. Being theoretically against something doesn't mean shit when your actions always support it. Hell, for example, most of us here are deeply critical of China, yet we always defend it the second imperialist warmongering turns its gaze towards it. That, for better or worse, makes this board largely pro-China, or at least anti-anti-China. That's what we call critical support, and it's clear that you guys have "critically" supported Trump since the beginning.
<span class="quote">>>391648</span><br/>I think there's a lot truth in that. There's an extreme / edgy "teen" thing to it and kinda-gothic Death in June element where the Nazis were like the tragic underdogs which appeals to depressive nerds who share emo pictures of Hitler. They're trying to push boundaries and this is an extreme way to do it. And some anons on here who used to be self-described Nazis or fascists have admitted that this was one of the reasons they were attracted to it in the first place.<br/><span class="quote"><br/>>>391637</span><br/>Some anons here don't agree with me about this, but I think what a modern-day American fascism looks like is just a radicalization of the existing right along with all the problems that they care about, not necessarily what the edgy teens care about or the dying breed that is 80s/90s ZOG-fighting skinheads, who – as you said – might've only made up 5% at most of Trump's coalition.<br/><br/>"Fascism" as an ideology though was always hard to define and it varied so much in different countries. And Mussolini's variety was probably less anti-Semitic than some other mainstream parties in Europe at that time, at least in the beginning. That's why I think a real American fascism with teeth will probably just be lined up with the Israeli Likud party. The Nazi ideology in Germany was a specific kind of thing that grew out of a radicalization of the German right at that time, with their own particular historical beef and scores they wanted to settle. It's not like Hitler came up with blaming Jews for losing World War I and wanting revenge, look at the Erich Ludendorff. Hitler though was a charismatic orator who drew a crowd and rose up the ranks of the party and then, over time, subordinated it – and the country – to himself. <br/><br/>So… in America, this is what you get. QAnon. It's deeply tied into wanting to accelerate Armageddon by supporting Israel to Trump's Laying of Hands and Christian megachurches being significant voices of Q theory into peoples lives. There are things that are good and there are things that are evil. There are no shades of grey or areas where a good thing can be bad or a bad thing can be good. Capitalism = USA = Patriotic = Good = God. An attack on any of those things is an attack on all of those things. Socialism = Regulation = Government = Communism = Evil. The government is bad in one breath and the police are amazing in the next breath. They are virtuous, right, moral and Christian. Everyone else are the evil ones.<br/><br/>The world is unjust and unpleasant and they know it, but finding out why it is that way is difficult, the answers would be upsetting, and the solutions would be even more difficult and upsetting than either of those prior steps combined. So far easier to just lash out blindly and decry all the evils of the world while calling for a return to a mythical past that never really existed.
<a onclick="highlightReply('411663', event);" href="/leftypol/res/56299.html#411663">>>411663</a><br/>Here's a list of some British neo-nazi nonces, but I'd like to see updated version with all the US/UK/Europe creeps, since there's so many of them in Atomwaffen, National Action, Nordic Resistance Movement, Sonnenkrieg and other Iron March weirdos.<br/><br/>Martyn Gilleard, local leader of the National Socialist British People’s Party, prepared for bombing. 39,000 child pornography images were in his possession: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/7469180.stm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/7469180.stm</a><br/><br/>Two members of the far-right British National Party drank 14-year-old girls to death and sexually abused: <a href="https://theukdatabase.com/2012/05/08/ian-hindleandrew-wells-blackburn/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://theukdatabase.com/2012/05/08/ian-hindleandrew-wells-blackburn/</a><br/><br/>A 40-year-old fascist addict brutally beat his 16-year-old girlfriend: <a href="https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14249499._ControllingBlackburn_drug_addict_repeatedly_punched_and_kicked_teen_girlfriend_as_she_lay_on_on" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14249499._ControllingBlackburn_drug_addict_repeatedly_punched_and_kicked_teen_girlfriend_as_she_lay_on_on</a><br/><br/>A 13-year-old girl was sexually abused by a racist fanatic and held illegal images of her: <a href="https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/race-hate-thug-who-chanted-7916756" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/race-hate-thug-who-chanted-7916756</a><br/><br/>The National Socialist 43-year-old BNP member found 17,058 child porn images and 215 videos. He himself had also filmed child pornography and told his pedophile friends online that he wanted to murder the little boy and videotape it: <a href="https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/walker-nazi-worshipper-exposed-paedophile-1406079" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/walker-nazi-worshipper-exposed-paedophile-1406079</a><br/><br/>47-year-old member of the Nazi organization Blood & Honor convicted of shocking violent rape: <a href="https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2016/02/17/darlington-s-nazi-rapist-jailed-for-nine-years-for/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2016/02/17/darlington-s-nazi-rapist-jailed-for-nine-years-for/</a><br/><br/>Ryan Fleming, a member of the National Socialist National Action, tortured and sexually abused a teenage boy: <a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/national-action-launch-paedophile-hunting-investigative-journalism-series-even-though-one-of" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/national-action-launch-paedophile-hunting-investigative-journalism-series-even-though-one-of</a> -its-members-is-a-sex-offender_uk_5756cfc7e4b0411d4de1fe4c<br/><br/>The same white nationalist Rayan Fleming was also convicted of sexually abusing a 14-year-old girl: <a href="https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15441403._Boastful_and_arrogantman_jailed_for_sex_with_girl14he_met_on_Facebook/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15441403._Boastful_and_arrogantman_jailed_for_sex_with_girl14he_met_on_Facebook/</a><br/><br/>A 43-year-old far-right White Man March supporter raped two children at least 13 times: <a href="https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/horrific-abuser-who-raped-vulnerable-children-after-buying-them-sweets-jailed" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/horrific-abuser-who-raped-vulnerable-children-after-buying-them-sweets-jailed</a> -for-20-years-1-7582633<br/><br/>A 60-year-old BNP and EDL activist murdered a 15-year-old girl who was sexually obsessed in his apartment: online: <a href="https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/paige-murderer-jailed-for-" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/paige-murderer-jailed-for-</a> more-than-three-decades-1-7381160<br/><br/>A far-right EDL activist couple exploited a 7-year-old child, photographed child pornography and distributed it online: <a href="https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/heysham-woman-accused-of-using-seven-year-old" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/heysham-woman-accused-of-using-seven-year-old</a> -girl-for-worldwide-pornography-1-7364866<br/><br/>The same couple has also fledged a 13-year-old girl to her apartment where the man had sexually abused this: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lancashire/8572755.stm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lancashire/8572755.stm</a><br/><br/>A far-rightist who was previously convicted of a mosque attack and appeared as a "pedophile hunter" was revealed to be a pedophile himself who tried to lure a child into sex: <a href="https://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court/romford-paedophile-squad-jailed-for-grindr-" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court/romford-paedophile-squad-jailed-for-grindr-</a> blackmail-1-4156153<br/><br/>The far-right nationalist repeatedly raped a 12-year-old girl: <a href="https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/jailed-army-cadet-sergeant-groomed-9400037" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/jailed-army-cadet-sergeant-groomed-9400037</a><br/><br/>An EDL active sexually assaulted a 13-year-old boy, and lured teenage boys into sexual activity via the Internet: <a href="https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/kane-hutchison-gateshead-sex-offender-" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/kane-hutchison-gateshead-sex-offender-</a> 8937114<br/><br/>A member of EDL and Britain First, convicted of attempting a bomb attack on a mosque, was in possession of child pornography: <a href="https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2015/01/07/britain-first-officer-on-sex-" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2015/01/07/britain-first-officer-on-sex-</a> offenders-register /<br/><br/>A member of the far-right North West Alliance was convicted of several rapes and child sex offenses: <a href="http://www.deeside.com/shotton-man-mervyn-jones-sentanced-17-years-jail-sex-offences-four-children/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.deeside.com/shotton-man-mervyn-jones-sentanced-17-years-jail-sex-offences-four-children/</a><br/><br/>EDL member raped 14-year-old: <a href="https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11278914.Man_charged_with_rape_of_Blackburn_schoolgirl" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11278914.Man_charged_with_rape_of_Blackburn_schoolgirl</a><br/><br/>An EDL member convicted of armed robbery kidnapped a 10-year-old child and tried to rape this: <a href="https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10740053.Armed_robber_and_child_kidnapper_could_be_on_the_run_in_Sussex/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10740053.Armed_robber_and_child_kidnapper_could_be_on_the_run_in_Sussex/</a><br/><br/>A member of the nationalist North West Infidels, he admits to being a child abuser. Received convictions for several sex offenses: <a href="https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8030864.Child_molester_jailed_after_girl_relives_horror/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8030864.Child_molester_jailed_after_girl_relives_horror/</a><br/><br/>Matthew Woodward, an EDL member, found child porn images and videos of 10-year-olds: <a href="https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2012/05/20/why-did-the-edl-not-protest-this-" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2012/05/20/why-did-the-edl-not-protest-this-</a> paedophile-case<br/><br/>An EDL activist working with children sent sexual text messages to a 14-year-old: <a href="https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/15935498.Connah_s_Quay_project_worker_sent_sexual_texts_to_teenager" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/15935498.Connah_s_Quay_project_worker_sent_sexual_texts_to_teenager</a><br/><br/>The EDL man prepared for the 13-year-old to be abused online and eventually raped him: <a href="https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/facebook-pervert-stephen-payne-walks-1736961" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/facebook-pervert-stephen-payne-walks-1736961</a><br/><br/>Richard Price, a founding member and former director of EDL, was in possession of child pornography. Tommy Robinson, considered a far-right martyr of freedom, defended pedophile Richard: <a href="https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/176587/Paedo-rap-for-EDL-leader" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/176587/Paedo-rap-for-EDL-leader</a><br/><br/>BNP racist activist convicted of child pornography images and videos: <a href="http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8771457.display/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8771457.display/</a><br/><br/>BNP member found child pornography in a home search: <a href="https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/meliden-killers-dad-child-porn-2053471" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/meliden-killers-dad-child-porn-2053471</a><br/><br/>The same BNP fascist, Ian Siree, previously raped a 14-year-old and harassed a 12-year-old: <a href="https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8043021.Karate_instructor_on_sex_charge/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8043021.Karate_instructor_on_sex_charge/</a><br/><br/>The racist, who was also a candidate for election to the BNP, was part of a child pornography network where he distributed material about boys under the age of 13: <a href="https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2012/07/18/bnp-hypocrisy-over-paedophile/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2012/07/18/bnp-hypocrisy-over-paedophile/</a><br/><br/>Another racist who was a candidate for the BNP election, Roderick Rowley, was also convicted of possession and distribution of child pornography: <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/10-things-you-should-know-about-the-" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/10-things-you-should-know-about-the-</a> bnp-when-you-watch-question-time-Tonight-1806874.html >>498981Shut the fuck up bitch, you've been
OWNED HARD, you've been fucked into the ass and your skull is full of semen, just leave.
>>498787Just been reading back over this thread, did not before see the reference to one "Pierre Woodman" apparently a Hero to this Bald and Morally Bankrupt Character.
Woodman it turns out, is a pornographic film director, (this was after being a cop and in the army) who did a lot of work in eastern europe after the collapse of the soviet union i.e. he exploited women during one of the worst humanitarian disasters in all of history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_WoodmanHe is also accused by several people of sexual assault and rape.
He also worked for Larry Flynt,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Flynt the man behind Hustler and other pornpographic endeavours, a man whose own daughter accused of rape, among other things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Flynt#Charges_of_incest,_misogyny,_and_racism
>Flynt's daughter, Tonya Flynt-Vega, accused him of sexually abusing her as a child.[54][8](p16) In the 1998 book, Hustled: My Journey from Fear to Faith, Flynt-Vega writes about her father showing her images from Hustler and while he did so, he began touching her, had her remove her bathing suit, assaulted her orally, then showed her his erection and tried to penetrate her. She writes, "The pain was intense. I know I was hurt. Dad had not penetrated [me]."[8](pp116–117) She described an exchange with her father after he knew she planned to publish a book describing his abuses of her: "He called me at work one day and said ‘If you don't back-off that book, I'll send somebody to wring your [expletive] neck.’ … He's 'Mr. Free Speech', but he's threatening to kill somebody for writing a book."[55][8](p67)
>Hustler cartoonist and humor editor, Dwaine B. Tinsley, created the comic feature called "Chester the Molester". It was a monthly part of the magazine for 13 years. In the comic, the main character endeavors through various means to molest and otherwise sexually assault girls and women.[59] In 1989, Tinsley was arrested, charged with molesting his daughter from age 13–18.[60][61][62] Tinsley was convicted of that charge on January 5, 1990.[63] His conviction was overturned in 1992 when an appeals court ruled that the jury should not have seen cartoons drawn by Tinsley.[64] The prosecutor in the case ultimately decided not to retry Tinsley, who served 23 months of a six year sentence.[65]
>Flynt claims he didn't ask Tinsley about the conviction and "Chester the Molester" cartoons drawn while in prison continued to appear in Hustler.[66] He also defended Tinsley, calling him "a genius" and "at one time in America in the Seventies and Eighties the most brilliant and recognized cartoonist in America."[67] A recent U.S. government court filing in the case involving an Atomwaffen member cites an unnamed informant who helped the police with the case who "currently owns and operates a publishing company that distributes white supremacist writings." The informant has been paid more than $140,000 for his work over the past 16 years when he was recruited in 2003, according to the court filing.
Obviously, the informant is unnamed, but what do you think the odds are that it's the same publishing company – Martinet Press – that distributes those occultic Nazi books which the Atomwaffen guys were obsessed with? ToB and so forth? If true, it would seem to confirm the OP's original theory that this whole esoteric, ultra-extreme neo-Nazi cult stuff has been bankrolled as a government operation.
It's worth noting that the informant, according to the court filing, was busted in 2003 on a federal charge "for possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number and an unregistered silencer," which is the same charge that the Martinet Press guy, Joshua Sutter, was hit with in 2003.
>In the US, perhaps the most extreme of ONA’s nexions is the Tempel ov Blood (ToB). ToB’s literature encourages sadism and sexual violence, glorifies mass-murderers and terrorists, and calls for adherents to engage in racially motivated violence depicted as a holy war.
>The ToB is reportedly run by Joshua Caleb Sutter, an alleged neo-Nazi occultist activist who converted to militant Hinduism; and who is said to have founded an astonishing pro-North Korea group in South Carolina named the Rural People’s Party.
>The AWD’s required reading material included ‘Liber 333’ and ‘Iron Gates’, both of which were authored by Sutter and released by Martinet Press, which is run by his wife and fellow ToB militant, Jillian Scott Hoy.
>‘Libre 333’ is a satanic manual, which guides neo-Nazis who fantasise about evolving into a new form of vampiric Aryan predator, and openly calls for infiltrating entities with “sinister potential”, such as the military, the police, religious or right-wing groups; while ‘Iron Gates’ is sci-fi gore that tells the story of a blood-thirsty death cult, and contains graphic descriptions of rape, torture, and murder.https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/countering-radical-right/nazi-satanists-promoting-extreme-violence-and-terrorism/Please don't laugh, I'm serious. So I was covertly in a /pol/ fbi.gov which was essentially for occult "esoteric hitlerism" type shit, mostly out of sheer curiosity to see what the schizos were on about. Lots of praising evola and others like him who are even more obscure, and all the usual pseudo-history/pseudoscientific shit that goes along with this. I got tired of it and started laughing at them telling them I was going to expose their autism with screencaps (which I lied about taking) and they threatened to curse/hex me. Soon after I was contacted by one of the main dudes and he told me I would regret everything because him and his "circle" were sending "entities" after me.
Over the next 3 days I started noticing that I was having really bad luck / bad things keep happening to me. In order: one of my best friends basically said I've become a boring asshole and he doesn't like being around others when I'm there (hence the reason he doesn't take me to parties anymore) and doesn't care if we're friends, my brother (who has a pre-existing condition) was diagnosed with covid and the whole family is extremely worried about him (he is already extremely frail / has a lung disease), I think my bed or something is suddenly infested with fleas (I have probably over 100 bites from my feet up to my groin itching like crazy and being scratched raw since 2 nights ago), I burned my arm badly on a hot saucepan, and my phone screen randomly burnt out and is all black since a few hours ago. I've also been having really bad anxiety (more than usual), extreme feelings of self-doubt and depression and haven't slept well.
Do you think it is just a coincidence? if you believe/know about this stuff, is this actually thing they can do and how do you stop it? I am open-minded but naturally skeptical, but this has me freaked-out quite honestly, and it has me dreading the future.
Also why do the rightoids seem to have a monopoly on mystical shit? like evola and all the esoteric nazi interests, if this stuff exists wouldn't they be extremely powerful behind the scenes? do the far left have anything like this to fight them? evola is like some sort of god figure to these asshats btw, if you haven't noticed. Like some sort of dark sorcerer/palpatine figure which is pretty cringey but a cool aesthetic ngl. Thinking of reading him to "know thy enemy" and because my recent experiences may have opened me up to this. Thoughts?
>>499114>Do you think it is just a coincidence?Perhaps, but if it isn't, I'm energetically aligning this post with yours, and you with me (and me with you) to collectively dispel this Nazi curse, casting it away, and converting their spooky racist hate magic into healing love.
I'm not sure this will actually work, but I'm told it does.
>>499115That woman got ZAPPED out of this dimension.
There are amazing edits of this video.
>>499104Sutter was literally the publisher for Martinet Press, the same ONA publishing outlet which created such le gems as "Iron Gates" and other pedo shit.
The really interesting thing is that would make the FBI's hands extremely dirty in spreading such filth, I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose as some GLADIO type thing and pretending to be a Honeypot.
>>498904want to fight a nazi? the nazi is too tall? don't worry i got the solution for you. poison
>go to his gym>sign the membershipinfiltrate the gym
>check for the cameras>buy or make some poison (you can make either some deadly poison or just something that fucks him up but doesn't kill him)still want to fight the nazi?
>poison him if you want, that will make him weaker>take some meth or coke if you don't want to poison him, that will make you not feel the pain>just hit him with a baseball bath in his head if you don't want poisonlife is so easy
>>499103>WAIT WTF THIS IS THE GUY THAT ISMAIL (EREGIME) AND JASON UNRUHE BOTH KNEW!For the record, I've never interacted with him nor knew anything about him until articles began being written about the RPP's bizarre fascist backstory.
Back in 2008 or 2009, there was a thread on RevLeft that brought up the existence of a "Rural People's Party" which basically consisted of two persons living in a trailer and claiming to uphold Jim Jones and Juche.
At that time the American Party of Labor had recently been proclaimed (it consisted of less than a dozen "Hoxhaists" on the Internet, myself included at the time) and someone for some reason had the idea of writing a polemic against the RPP, as if this were a worthwhile endeavor. From what I recall the APL's argument was just "you people aren't very good Marxists" and the RPP replying with "argh you are a bunch of dogmatists." I wasn't involved in that.
That is the extent of the APL's interaction with the RPP. All I remember doing at the time is messaging other APL members making fun of the RPP's strangeness.
Coincidentally, I'm writing an article on Jim Jones' life, arguing (as I did in a previous article on Jonestown:
https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=102313) that his conception of socialism was quite firmly in the vein of utopians like Robert Owen, not Marx or Engels.
>>498763
> Believed an actual fountain of youth existed, contemplated sending an expedition to Tibet to discover itIt was the 1930s-1940s, people believed in dumber shit back then
>One of his all time favorite movies was Disney's Snow White, which he watched many timesSo? It was a good film and still is.
>Was obsessed with death, coveting the painting The Plague in Florence by Hans MakartLots of people are
> Rarely if ever laughed, issued strange guttural barking sounds instead, possibly because of his damaged vocal chords from a gas attack in WW1 which gave him his characteristic scratchy voiceMaybe its because he smoked meth all the time
>Reputed monorchid, had only one testicleLOL
> Obsessed with hands, pampered his own hands and judged others based on their hands, even promoting people on this basisRetarded belief
> Enjoyed to tricking his subordinates with little practical jokesBoss trying to make the workplace fun
> Vegetarian, creepily referred to carnivores as "corpse eaters"Based
> Hypnotizing light blue eyes, nearly everyone he met was struck by themGay
> Chronophobe, feared and hated time, would try to blur whether it was day or night by keeping the curtains up during the dayMfw Chronophobe
> Terrified of being alone at night. Forced one of his subordinates to stay with him until dawn while he slept.Might have been because he was the most hated man in Europe. Assassination would be easier while he was sleeping
> Obsessed with American westerns and cowboysI am obsessed with certain movies and shows. doesnt mean anything
>Was calm and composed when dealing with serious matters like the course of the war, lost his temper and went crazy when someone forgot to bring him mineral waterEntitled hitler
>Flew into rages if anyone laughed at something he saidLaughter is banned in fascist dystopias
>>498839Well, not exactly. I am indian. Southern Indians don't have a affinity for Hitler. It's really only a subset of northern indian hindus who like Hitler. North Indian Hindus like hitler because they see muslims as India's jews and slavs. They need to be exterminated, in their view, or at the very least used as slaves. India was the greatest when Hindus ruled India and they need to return to that time when Hindus were in power and owned everything. They see dravidians (southern indians) as lesser beings on par with what Nazis saw the Greeks or Turks as. The whole subcontinent, in their view, needs purification of lesser races and therefore they want to eliminate muslims, dravidians, assamese and pretty much anyone who isn't North Indian, Hindu and Hindi Speaking.
Indian people are a diverse people anon and we shouldn't all be labeled based on some idiots.
>>499132I should clarify they like the idea of a ethno-nationalist state that purges minorities and see Hitler's Germany as the greatest example of such a concept. Hitler sometimes gets praise because he used the Swastika, which is a hindu holy symbol. Some BJP morons who live in the north think that means Hitler saw all Indians are honorary aryans.
If hitler existed today, he probably would have gassed 95% of indian people.
This is just what i can say about hitler and what indians think of him.
>>499114there are like a billion of non nazi esotericist ,in fact since occult is imported in most countries i doubt you will find many esoteric nazis outside of pol
Evola and guenon as far as i know wasnt into rituals and curses ,i think you messed with tik tok witches
>>499149Jesus Christ. Thats a big fishy been caught. Every god damn time.
Funny you can be charged with racial discrimination as a crime in a country where Bolsa is president though
>>498803That's the most expensive neckbeard-cave i've seen if i've ever seen one…
the fucking round table picture lmao, look at those fatty hands and double chins lmao
>>499153100% pedo, 0% chin.
I for one am shocked
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591438/Porn-star-Kitty-Blair-sacked-German-neo-Nazi-party-banned-porn-industry.htmlFar-right German porn star sacked as face of neo-Nazi party because she made film with a black man now banned by porn industry… because she is a neo-Nazi
Far right having a normal one as usual
>>499159>Ina Groll, or 'Kitty Blair', was face of National Democratic Party of Germany
>She encouraged men to join far-right party by dressing in revealing outfits
>But she has been fired after senior NDP officials watched her new porn film
>In the movie, titled 'Kitty Discovers Sperm,' she has sex with a black manAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHA
This has brightened my day
>>499156Used to be called lt corbis. She's friends with a lot of pedos. Shadman drew porn of her while she was a mod in his chat. Her friend Vic/Kurt was caught trying to groom girls and she covered it up with him, it's pretty fucked up. She's allegedly into Satanism and is only larping as a catholic, like the admitted pedophile priest apologist, Milo.
The entire story is really messed up.
>>499170There's no shortage of rumors about that tumor.
She was in a gay relationship and had a nervous breakdown after the breakup. Then her brother got her to give him nudes that he sold while she was doped up on her prescription meds and they're all over Tor.
And that her brother, Kurt, was the one that helped drive them apart so he could better control Soph.
It's like nobody knows what the hell to believe, just surrounded by creeps and shit.
>>499173>skitzo they said
>take your medsthey said
>touch grassthey said
every one of my personalities I got from tiktok, my "alters" as it is called, are laughing in unified maniacal vindication at this moment
>>499170Isn't she huge into rap? This makes no sense.
And was fine with Drake pimping and having sex with the Stranger Things girl, but freaked out about the white guy? Then there's the Sam Hyde thing and his multiple underage girls he groomed and beat. Allegedly he killed one girl with drugs.
Nothing about her makes any sense.
>>499181Nobody knows. Hyde has lots of friends on Reddit and 4chan, so they can slide or bury stuff that hurts his rep and his friends like Charles aren't talking.
He got away with murder, I guess.
>>499170You should feel for that poor kid.
Some guy was molesting her and taking pics. It's so fucked up.
>>499182Is this the girl?
Think she's still alive.
>>499183Is this the guy? From her highschool?
The handjob story?
>>499183>>499192That's a really strong resemblance.
She was being molested by an older student? And her parents knew? This kid must be really messed up.
>>499193Got up banned from /pol for trying to post about this?
Wtf?
>>499182>>499185Man Sam Hyde is such a gross degenerate. Watching his latest vids where he goes and harasses people at the car rental place, rents a car and then just trashes it/tries to fuck it up makes me feel a very particular feeling of despair and ennui.
His ex girl Channing Kreager used to post on 8chans mde board and talked about how he is a massive homo who had a closet filled with dildos, fucks dudes, and is just generally a really weird, gross and abusive failson. She would post photos from the inside of his studio and shit and someone posted leaked audio of him abusing the incel dude that hangs around him after Charles and everyone else fucked off lol
he's kind of a fascinating guy in just how much of weird, sociopathic loser he is
iirc he is a bitcoin millionaire so he just spends his day doing steroids and eating fast food while fucking random girls
>>499171Kurt is Victor, right?
The guy that hides while Soph takes all the heat? He was so afraid of being doxed that he scrubbed his online presence and just let ltcorbis get the shit kicked out of her by the public.
What a little bitch.
>>499190junk posted this on /siberia/
https://4plebs.org/pol/thread/348113825Basically a thread calling the abolition of Child Protective Services 'based'.
>>499197What is with all these Brazilians connected to that Soph girl and her filthy rich family? And keep finding all this occult shit everywhere looking into her background.
This shit is weird?
>>499205That's "Cringe Panda".
She literally claims her great grandfather worked for Hitler, possibly in the MK Ultra stuff.
>>499206>>498803Cringe Panda?
She was allegedly identified in some hardcore stuff some guy found on Pornhub before the big purge. Said that some guy in a white mask was railing her and he said it was Titanic Sinclair. It seemed really random at the time, but makes sense now.
>>499144Seems to be connected to some shady people and money laundering, like the thing that Masterson was doing.
But wasn't she bragging about being a "strawman" to fool the rightoids?
>>499202From my understanding, no, they're just incompetent bureaucrats whose rank-and-file suffer from burnout because they don't save kids from abusive situations in time.
Anyway, most /pol/ fags hate anything regulating interaction with children because they like them, in a really horrific way.
Stolen from another thread :
75 FOIA pages of CIA agents being caught hoarding child porn of molesting kids
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21119429-cia_ig_reports_child_abuse-fullhttps://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/cia-employees-sex-crimes-children-secret-files-foiaBuzzfeednews article on this. Took them 10 years to gather all these reports. The full FOIA is over 3000 pages.
To give a quote from article as a taste
>At a symposium in 2016, Daniel Payne, a top Pentagon security official, said that when workers’ computers were examined, “the amount of child porn I see is just unbelievable.”https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonLeopold?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5EauthorTwitter of person who acquired these documents
>>499219>>499215fascism is a third vvay that completely removes the justification for its existance
in the long term
first fascism is a solution to fix the economic crisis that appear in capitalism, but vvhat happens vvhen that crises gets smoothed dovvn and the next generation forgets the near capitalism collapse
additionally fascism itself funds its greatest enemies in that vvhen you fund these huge ass national champions vvhats stopping these private champions from turning against you and eventually eating up the state
and vvhile i hestitate to call park chung hee sk fascist, park chung hee sk is the closest vve have of a long term fascist state
and once park died you knovv vvhat happened? the liberals that never expirenced capitalism near collapse took over, liberalized the state, vvhile the coporate rich at the same time took over and ate the state alive.
fascism is not a long term solution, only socialism is
He's not a Nazi (afaik), but he was a Republican anti-gay and anti-immigration senator under drumpf.
He was arrest and is currently in prison for child sex trafficking >_>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Shortey>>499215Third positionism is one of many completely empty attempts by Fascists to rebrand themselves after WW2. How specifically is corporatism neither capitalist or socialist? Because it doesn't expropriate the bourgeoisie, it doesn't challenge capital or private property, it doesn't represent any kind of step towards workers control of the economy, it doesn't even advocate state ownership of the economy. It's class collaborations plus a powerful state, i.e. liberalism on steroids.
Literally just think about corporatism for 5 seconds and it falls apart. So capitalists and workers negotiate in industrial syndicates that are overseen by the state. The whole theory depends on the idea that these two groups will have equal say but what guarantees that? What's stopping the capitalists, who are starting from a place of greater wealth and influence, from just buying off the state? Especially since Fascism always disciplines labor (Hitler banned independent unions for example).
Also corporatism is never even followed in practice. Edmondo Rossoni was the main guy in the PNF who was pushing corporatism and he was a retard like you who saw it as an alternative to capitalism. He ended up sidelined. Gottfried Feder who wanted to abolish interest was passed over in favor of the banker Hjalmar Shacht when Hitler was choosing who to have run his economy. The Spainish Falangists were sidelined by Franco. Rohm, a vague pseudo-socialist, and the Strassers, the only ones to want state control of the economy, were purged.
Fascism has literally never challenged capitalism and never will.
>>499239
>how does one find them or get invited?literally just look for wignat pages on facebook it's basically 24/7 fedbait
>what kind of people were there? Although I think you said it all with:<the rest were all random skinny-fat incel kids who got picked from alt right spaces and the most sissy feds they could issue for these operations.at least 2 actual trans girls, a single tradthot, femboys who "overcame their dysphoria" (by crossdressing)
lots of schizoids (very deleuzian) and the rest is literally just kids no older than 15 or 19 the oldest
>what operational security did they have? none?besides living in Mexico where the cartel issues the security over most suburbs?
pretty much yeah, apparently they might have a few guns, but then again who doesn't?
>what did they do? was it a larp? a social group? a 'we'll do something when the time comes' militia?i mean lots of larp, social groups sure, a couple toughies but mostly nerds who like reading nazi "literature"
i had a google drive full of their books but i lost it since i just took out some Ernst Junger shit and eco-fascist shit, they actually got one of the trans girls into becoming Stonetoss protegee, which leads me to believe stonetoss is actually both a chaser and not really a nazi, just an edgy faggot who panders to it's audience; edgy 15 year olds, we almost had a ecofascist gardening squad after i tried to get involved with the local Green Line Front but before i even decided to put together a bunch of white middle class kids larping as gardeners i had to start transitioning and being involved with something i did solely to try and "fix myself" not only was getting in the way, it was also making my relationship with my parents difficult, plus i never believed their retarded shit to begin with, i managed to get a bunch of nazis open to start dialogue with more leftist ideas, so sure, reformation is a thing, it's cute and all but there's also a bunch of basket cases and i don't mind, you gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette, and my house used to be a glorified crach shack so me and my brother learned how to feed on budget omelettes for weeks.
and quesadillas, cheap food is so fucking good.
>post a funny storyi don't like being in charge or doing "leader" things, but somehow i always manage to get people to follow me, i need to try and make peace with those 2 things, i once had a bunch of kids who helped me start fires in the streets, it was the most fun you could have with a box of matches and literal trash
>are you still on good terms with them?to a certain degree, they know i'm now on the antifascists side but they like my intensity i guess, every so often a kid pops up in my DMs asking if i was the one with them and i have to give them "the talk"
which makes me feel kinda stupid but that's still the best thing i can do for them
>have you compiled a list of their photos, names, addresses and headquarter location to hand over to antifascist organizations? and why haven't you? just go there and turn the taps on lmaoi can't quite confirm which ones are still involved, but they're def sus af, we all used sockpuppet accounts
but since i'm a people's person apparently i never really felt the need to,
call me dumb but it's easier than living like that, being a privacy freak it's tiresome and there's a dozen couple things to focus schizoid episodes on, also there's nearly no antifascist organizations here, so my best bet is like, do something about that, i mean i'm already a populist apparently, also if they're really something to worry about they might be involved with my actual family, a lot of my relatives were actually involved with old school fascist organizations as in, actual henchmen and like church leaders
liek i said i probably should bother more about the whole thing, but i'd rather enjoy the little things about not worrying about stuff.
>>499254>>499251>>499249it's almost the same reason so many gays have turned into the military life for generations
first things first there's the stigma of being gay that a lot of people thought doing manly things would "fix" people being gay
that's why that guy was so invested he said he "overcame" his dysphoria while still crossdressing.
it's the atomwaffen all over again, target alienated kids with one, two or more marginal backgrounds, even incels often fall into this category
not because they don't have sex, but rather because incels very often come from dysfunctional families…
and are also gay… which also explains the incel thing, stop lying, you don't want a tradwife, you want a boyfriend that rearranges your guts.
>inb4 you are arachnophobic you want to fuck spidersno, Timothy
i'm not implying you want to fuck spiders
i'm implying you want to get fist fucked like they're starting a lawn mower.
Fast news week in the world of far right pedophiles.
Today: the gateway pedophile
https://nationalfile.com/jim-hofts-marriage-filipino-man-half-age-isnt-proof-satanic-pedophilia-cabal-lawyer-says/To be frank this is just getting ridiculous. It’s beyond a parody. It seems so basic “if you hate gays you must actually be gay” pop phycologyshit, but they literally just project completely.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19834267.patriotic-alternative-women-reveal-misogynistic-abuse-heart-far-right-group/
>The organisation is “really dangerous”, they said, backing up experts on fascism who have also expressed fears over PA and pro-rape comments by men following far-right groups on platforms such as Telegram.
>While following the EDL she suffered online abuse from men and a male supporter of PA started stalking her. She said: “This person was sending messages to my house, he was sending letters, he was calling … calling me all the time. He was sending me obscene threats and pictures, all this kind of stuff.”
>She also claimed there were disturbing online discussions among male PA supporters about other females, with “running themes of degradation and subjugation with women”.
>Woman A continued: “I think these groups are actually really dangerous, especially after the (Davison) shooting. These people are full of rage. Rage they can’t find a partner, rage because they feel the world is against them. Before you know it you’ve gone from worrying about demographics to laughing at the idea of a woman you’ve never met being raped. If they’re willing to treat women in their own circles like this, imagine how they could go on to treat those outside of the group.”
>“They are so creepy. Basically, they’re just stalkers. If you’re a woman, and you get involved with this kind of movement, you will meet a lot of men who are very kind of desperate. They’ll try and get your attention anyway they can. They’ll be constantly in your DMs (direct messages), commenting on everything you do, trying to get your attention and when you don’t give them that they’ll become nasty.”
>SEXUAL assault is a prominent theme, the report added, with pro-rape comments not uncommon. The authors argued that anti-feminism, misogyny and antisemitism intersect, with the “former prejudices potentially acting as pathways towards the latter”.incel nonces strike again
>>499185Jesus…
Anyone else remember when Sam Hyde tried to get his fans to accuse Tim Heidecker of being a pedophile purely out of spite?
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>>499170>lt corbisWasn't she a meme child with a youtube channel?
Like 5 years ago or so he even appeared on leafy video or something
>>498849>Le cheeto man knew about 9/11 before it happenedwell I'm not suprised this happened with how many countless wars America was involved in that eventually someone would take revenge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States#20th-century_warsRome was sacked by barbarians and this was basically the rome was sacked moment for America since they couldn't touch it in any other way
I never saw these buildings as anything special but when you look at the new world trade center that was build it has the sign ONE WORLD
>>499287L M A O
WHY ARE THEY LIKE THIS
>>498727I'm reading Black Sun right now
>>498763You forgot to add that he was gay, Jewish, a pedophile, partook in incest, and had a piss fetish
>>499284>you should just be allowed to rape women……
……
……
>Sniff>you know, I schink >there is a promeesh of obsheeen enjoyment at the haart of fascheesumI don't like slavic cocaine man that much but he is right about some things
>>499294skrewdriver with a k
that's crazy, they were the most famous neo-nazi skinhead band, wearing one of their merch was a big signal that you were in that end of the skin subculture back in the 80s and stuff
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>>499122>King was not the only paedophile with whom Kinsey worked closely. During this period, Kinsey also corresponded with and collected data from one of the most notorious paedophiles of the time – Dr. Fritz von Balluseck of Germany
>This former Nazi party official had commanded a ghetto during the war, and had sexually abused hundreds of pre-adolescent boys and girls – forcing them to choose between sex or the gas chamber – in addition to his own children, for over three decades. Von Balluseck, like Rex King, kept explicitly detailed diaries of his sexual abuse, which he sent to Kinsey. Balluseck was implicated in the sex murder of a young girl in 1957. When Interpol found Balluseck’s correspondence with Kinsey, they sought Kinsey’s help, but Kinsey refused to release any of Balluseck’s journals or information
>Paul Gebhard wrote, of this fact: “An example of criminality is our refusal to cooperate with authorities in apprehending a paedophile we had interviewed who was being sought for a [child] sex murder”. At von Balluseck’s trial, the judge criticized Kinsey for failing to report him. Furthermore, testimony from von Balluseck during the trial indicated that Kinsey requested the sex abuse data from the paedophile. The judge asked von Balluseck, “I had the impression that you got to the children in order to impress Kinsey, and to deliver him material. And von Balluseck replied, “Kinsey himself asked me for that”. It is highly likely that some of Kinsey’s “data” on childhood sexuality may have come from the abuse of children in the Nazi death campshttps://youtu.be/aJ0JQGoAz4w >>499309>>499309Bruh this country is going to be like Russia in the 90's/2000's but even fucking worse lol
just growing amounts of Nazi idiots running rampant beating the shit out of everyone and everything as everything decays into Somalia tier conditions
>>499301>Aleister CrowleyThe CIA studied/used his works as part of the Project MKOFTEN.
>According to some sources, MKOften went beyond mere research into mind control and incapacitation of enemies, and plunged into the world of black magic, sorcery and the occult. The suspicion was raised by British investigative journalist Gordon Thomas, who wrote a book in 2007 with the title "Secrets and Lies". Thomas relied on allegations of Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, former head of the CIA's Technical Services Division, also known behind the scenes at the agency under the nickname "Dark Sorcerer"
>According to Thomas, part of the MKOften Project was dedicated to studying a vast occult literature that would have been collected from archives and libraries by the Nazis in the 1940s. Many of these books were looted by the Germans during the war and covered topics involving the use of magic and spells as a tool of war. Some of those involved in the project didn't go so far as to actually believe in black magic, but they accepted that it could offer a way to control and intimidate people through superstitions. Using supposed witchcraft and appealing to supernatural powers could have a detrimental effect on the morale of people exposed to these elements. The author argued that black masses and staged sacrifices, as well as the use of legends and folklore creatures could have devastating effects even on military veterans. Supposedly, MKOften agents have used this tactic in Vietnam, inserting rumors into guerrilla-dominated areas and spreading rumors about the presence of alleged monsters and demons from Southeast Asian folklore
>To learn as much as possible about the topic, MKOften agents met, consulted, studied, and employed the help of numerous mystics and occultists, including clairvoyants, astrologers, mediuns, psychics, vodunists, modern wizards, demonologists, satanists, and even a monsignor of the Catholic Church of the Archdiocese of New York, specializing in exorcism. According to rumors within MKOften itself, the agents had a considerable amount of information about the occult, full access to libraries and works on the subject, as well as the freedom to act clandestinely, performing black masses and rituals as needed. Also according to Thomas, members of MKOften had practical classes on the occult, knew a lot about Crowley and tarot theories and some were still versed in Latin and Greek
>Program members allegedly sought ways to adapt magical rituals for military use. According to Thomas, the CIA even hired the services of three astrologers, a tarot reader and two specialists in palmistry. It also employed at least two pendulum specialists and at least one Kirlian photography researcher. A voodoo sorcerer who believed he could turn people into zombies and cast curses was hired in Haiti and went on to conduct lectures on the alleged powers of the Loa. A Houston sorceress named Sybil Leak was one of the latest acquisitions. Leak was a member of the Church of Satan, led by the notorious Anton LaVey, and believed from time to time to embody the demonic entity Lilith
>In addition to Gordon Thomas, another journalist and researcher, Alex Constantine, wrote about these arcane searches conducted by the program, claiming that the CIA showed an interest in obscure cults and religions. This interest was based on the thesis that creating sects of this nature in enemy nations could result in a chaotic element in the case of a revolution. Constantine believed that sects such as the Temple of Set, the Process Church of the Final Judgment and the Finders could be examples of cults built by MKOften. It also raises the possibility that Jonestown Peoples Temple of infamous Jim Jones could have learned his persuasion and control techniques from the CIA. For Constantine, some of the methods employed by Jim Jones to shape the behavior of his faithful demonstrate that he employed techniques developed by MKOften
>Constantine says the CIA maintained an entire division of social scientists that examined the advances of sects and cults established in the 1970s. It would have even sponsored the creation of similar sects in countries in Africa and South America, as a kind of field laboratory . For Constantine, the explosion of cults and sects until the early 1980s is closely linked to MKOften's projects and their support >>499312There's a lot of Occultist and Nazi shit in that.
>In the early 1960s, two ranking members of the Church of Scientology — Robert Moore and Mary Anne MacLean, better known as the DeGrimstons — split off from London’s Hubbard Institute to form the Process Church of the Final Judgment — a group whose official logo is a modified swastika and whose literature included glowing tributes to Nazism, Satan, snuff/gore and necrophilia. The group’s bookstore reportedly stocked titles on topics such as Hitler, organized crime, hypnosis, brainwashing, and the occult. Moore, a former cavalry officer and the grandson of a British vicar, and MacLean, a one-time prostitute who was connected to the Profumo scandal and who reportedly believes that she is the reincarnation of Nazi propagandist Josef Goebbels, first left London with their followers just after the summer solstice of 1966, arriving first in Nassau and then in Xtul, Mexico. They were soon back in London
>By 1967, they had arrived in the States, first setting up shop in New Orleans, French Quarter, where the organization was formally incorporated with the assistance of a former lawyer for the Catholic Church. In March 1968, the group moved their base of operations to San Francisco, taking up residence not far from LaVey’s Church of Satan and various other occult groups, including a branch of the OTO. Recruiters for the group had been in the Bay area since the 1967 ‘Summer of Love,’ signing on such members as ‘Brother Ely,’ a member of the Gypsy Jokers biker gang whose home/Process Church temple was located just two blocks away from the home of the Manson Family. From its inception, the Process made no effort to hide its infatuation with death, destruction and cultural terrorism. In the essay Jehovah on War, Moore commanded his followers: “THOU SHALT KILL.”
>Another essay that appeared in the official Process publication urged readers to experience the pleasures of grave robbing and necrophilia. A rant in the “Death” issue was penned by a recent transplant to the Bay area by the name of Charles Manson. (An excerpt from Dave McGowan's wonderful book, "Programmed to Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder" : Chapter 12) >>499312>>499313The ex-husband of Zeena LaVey (daughter of the founder of Church of Satan, Anton LaVey), Nikolas Schreck, met Charles Manson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolas_Schreck>Nikolas Schreck is an American singer-songwriter, musician, author, film-maker and Tantric Buddhist religious teacher based in Berlin, Germany
>Schreck's 1989 documentary, Charles Manson Superstar, told the story of Charles Manson's life as well as interviewing him in San Quentin Prison. The documentary featured parts of an originally hour and a half long interview of Manson, as well as many photographs and video footage, of the Manson Family, Spahn Ranch, and other related topics. Also discussed were Manson's alleged ties to Nazi movements (which he denied) and to various Satanic movements. Other Video Werewolf releases include The Zurich Experiment, which documented Radio Werewolf's last public concerthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeena_Schreck>Zeena Galatea Schreck (née LaVey), known professionally by her mononymous artist name ZEENA, is a Berlin-based American visual and musical artist, author and the spiritual leader of the Sethian Liberation Movement (SLM), which she founded in 2002
>Raised within her father's organization, the Church of Satan, she came to international prominence early in life as the Church's first spokesperson, defending the organization during the 1980s. In 1990 she resigned her position, severed ties with her father Anton LaVey and his Church, and renounced the church's tenets. Since that time, her religion changed to Buddhism and she is now a teacher of Tibetan Tantric BuddhismHis father, Anton LaVey, was associate of a very peculiar man.
>Michael Aquino, the founder of Temple of Set (a schismatic group of the Church of Satan), was fascinated with Nazism, encouraged his pupils to study Nazi literature, and performed rituals relating to Nazi occult systems, e.g. the working at Germany's Wewelsburg Castle during a NATO-related mission. He was associated with CIA, NSA, and the U.S. Army's psychological warfare service, as well as a member of the American Security Council's advisory board along with a host of top FBI, CIA, and Pentagon hawks
>After receiving his PhD in political science from the University of California, Santa Barbara in 1980, Aquino worked as an adjunct professor at Golden Gate University until 1986 while continuing to serve in the United States Army as an Active Guard Reserve officer at the Presidio of San Francisco. He was fascinated with the connections between occultism and Nazism, resulting in some accusations that he was sympathetic to Nazi ideology. In 1983, he performed a solitary rite at Walhalla, the subterranean section of the Wewelsburg castle in Germany that was utilized as a ceremonial space by the Schutzstaffel's Ahnenerbe group during the Nazi period. This resulted in his formation of the Order of the Trapezoid, a Setian group whose members understood themselves as a chivalric order of knights. From 1987 through to 1995, the Grand Master of the Order of the Trapezoid was Edred Thorsson, who had joined the Temple of Set in 1984 and risen to the Fifth Degree in 1990 >>729782
>They invaded countries to replace their local flag with a red flag, therefore not imperialist?
Yes, it was not imperialist. Imperialism isn't just when you invade a country.
>Russia wasn't the main benefactor of Soviet resources/products?
No, it wasn't. If anything, resources were diverted from Russia to develop less developed states within the USSR.
>You're trying to ascribe communist politicians' theory and rhetoric to a flawed reality.
Explain.
>Fascists/nationalists argue that since imperialism is inevitable, we should just be the ones benefiting from it, or at least preventing it from occurring to our nations specifically.
Retarded, as it engages in what is inevitably inconsequential when the system in it's totality is taken into account.
>Communists demand that you simp for the "global south" or the "3rd world" or whatever and just gamble on them being nice and reciprocating and them adopting "true communism" eventually.
No, we simply understand that capitalism is a global system, and thus can only be superceded by means of a system that expands itself globally in greater measure. That's the reality of it.
>What actually happens is you get retards like Mugabe and Pol Pot.
Not always.
>The leftist proposition is a long shot gamble.
A necessary one, and not a long shot in any way.
>Furthermore, fascists don't accept libertine capitalism as the ideal or something we have to always bargain with.
Except you historically have, and the system will always select for such.
>If capitalism leads to mass immigration of low-skilled criminalistic foreigners, then we support simply using state force to stop immigration.
Doesn't work, as the system overtime will simply select for such in order to ensure it's economic continuation. Immigration will occur regardless of if you "support" it or "oppose" it, and countries like Hungary are a great example of this.
>The people who always whine and bitch about immigration restrictions and try to overturn them are liberals and leftists.
I reject them because they are a mythology, and something which fundamentally misunderstands the nature of the bourgeoisie state. I will work with the cards I have rather then trying to desperately and impotently appeal to the bourgeoisie for cards I will never obtain, and so I will work with the immigrants here against the bourgeoisie then have us pitted against each other by those who stand to benefit by creating the flase dichotomy of "closed" and "open" borders.
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>Claiming the hundreds of miles of railroads built by European colonial powers in the 1800s didn't benefit the colonial nations is being disingenuous.
They did, but only after, not during. Largely the benefit was for the colonial powers, not the nation itself.
>They had a constant rate of technological and economic advancement in fact.
No, not by a long shot. Technology only developed up to the point that they could complete their ascribed economic role, and no further.
>Arguably they only really started going backwards after the high autism score white leadership was ousted by a combination of virtue-signaling Western liberals and the Commintern.
Burkina Faso literally developed faster then it ever had when free from colonial domination.
>Watch Empire of Dust, even Chinese CCP fans had to admit that the blacks squandered European gifts.
That speaks to a completely different phenomena, and you would know this if you actually watched the whole movie.
>Warsaw Pact was part of Europe so it was already relatively well developed; and arguably they would have developed at the same rate anyway regardless of what economic system they had.
What the fuck are you talking about? Have you even ever in your entire life read about the condition most eastern european states in were before?
>I support a system where capital is totally subservient to state authority, and I would even support things like individual wealth limits,
restrictions on lobbyism, etc.
Not how it works, as the state is still fundamentally dependent on capitalism as a system, and thus overtime is shaped and molded by the necessary demands of such a system. Ask yourself, at end of the day, who are the members of state themselves dependent on for the system to keep running? The answer is capitalism.
>I admit that it would take a revolution and/or Balkanization including violence for this change to take place; but so do most commies when talking about implementing communism in Western nations.
Yes, and that's and for communism that's an actual consiquntial change. A change from capitalism to capitalism once again is not.
>It doesn't help that leftists always simp for the open borders factions.
"Open borders" don't exist. There are degrees of controlled borders, but no western country has ever had "open borders". The whole thing is a red herring that doesn't understand the mechanisms of the system.
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