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 No.507037[Last 50 Posts]

Let's mantain the civil discussion we were having in the last thread.
Last thread got full.
FULL SIZZLEGANG FOR THE WIN

>Russian foreign Ministry comments on response: it is inappropriate to demand to withdraw troops from certain regions of Russia. Russia demands Ukraine implements Minsk agreements, the West should stop weapons delivery to Ukraine, withdraw what was delivered already, recall all instructors and advisors from Ukraine, prohibition of NATO joint exercises with Ukraine. Russia demands all U.S. troops and weapons withdrawal from Central and Eastern Europe, Baltic countries. Russia expects proposals on non-expansion of NATO. Russia highlights that questions on arms control cannot be considered separately from other points

So, these are the points for descalation:
1:Ukraine implements Minsk agreement.
2:The weapons deliveries towards Ukraine from NATO need to stop.
3:Withdraw what was already delivered to Ukraine.
4:Withdraw all NATO instructos and advisors from Ukraine.
5:Prohibit the cooperation of Ukraine in NATO joint exercises.
6:The total withdrawal of all US troops and weapons from Central and Eastern Europe (This is, Poland, The Baltic States, Slovakia, Romania, and probably even Germany and the Czech Republic
Do you think the US NATO will accept these 6 points?

I'm gonna post my opinion about the russian matter in here as well, it's my post, you can't do nothing about it:
Russia has tried to join NATO, twice.
No real reason for NATO to actually not accept, you would literally have world domination, aside from China.
This is because of a very simple reason, NATO wants to balkanize Russia. The very existence of Russia is a menace to NATO, and I don't mean this because they're "scared" of russian people, but how much territory they occupy.
Russia is the major country that will get a benefit from climate change, it's a country with a lot of natural resources because it literally owns about 1/8 of the planet or so.
It's the literal counterpart of the US, and the US wants it destroyes so it can truly be the world dominator without having no one to actually stand to them. Also Russia has lotsa nukes.
Not saying tho that Russia is an anti-imperialist nation, it is a capitalist nation and capitalism itself enables imperialism, it's a feature, not a dlc. But the thing is that NATO is searching for Russia is to be completely destroyed and balkanized in 5 states or more.
Also the Rimland theory is more important (at least that'd what NATO officials believe) than what you think.
So in thic conflict I support Russia for these reasons.
>Russia is actively defending itself against an outside invader that wants to mutilate it out of paranoia.
>Ukraine isn't worth a damn supporting, they have incorporated in their army neo-nazi paramilitaries.
>Ukraine is also a shithole that would be better under russian control… Probably (not that hard of a test tbh, being better than a comprador regime for NATO isn't that hard).
>More power to Russia means less power to the US, which will make it more aggressive. Supporting Russia is literally accelerationism to ww3, but accelerationism nonetheless, and no, I don't want ww3, I don't like to happen, but one thing is to not like war and the other is to delude oneself into believing that it will not happen, it will happen because it's the natural course of capitalism. This is more asking for a swift death than a prolonged, painful suffering under late stage capitalism.
>Seriously, fuck the Ukrainian goverment.
>In fact, fuck ALL nato states, including mine.

Despite this, I recognize that:
>Russia is a capitalist country. Thus means that it is imperialist because imperialism is the capitalist drive for profit natural course of action, read imperialism, the last stage of capitalism. Every capitalist country will become either imperialist, or imperialized, and Russia clearly isn't being imperialized as, say, Togo is.
>Russia is ruled by a capitalist class, the same class that killed the Soviet Union and thus killed AES.
>The russian state is actively smearing the soviet union, by example making the gulag archipelago a required reading in schools, meanwhile putting into a shrine a fake version of Stalin, deluding themselves into thinking he was a fascistic strong dictator instead of the antithesis of fascism which is why russian rightwingers love to say that they liked Stalin but hate Lenin, despite the former being literally a disciple and rightful succesor to Lenin's theories and politics.

Btw this also applies to China.

 No.507038

>Russia has "enough troops, enough capabilities to launch a full-fledged invasion of Ukraine with very little or no warning time" per @NATO's @jensstoltenberg "That is what makes the situation so dangerous"

 No.507039

>British Ministry of Defense: Russia retains a significant military presence that can conduct an invasion without further warning. Below demonstrates President Putin's possible axis of invasion. He still can choose to prevent conflict and preserve peace

 No.507040

>Ukraine, the UK and Poland announce a creation of a trilateral alliance during the UK foreign secretary @trussliz visit to Kyiv. Countries will cooperate in the areas of defense, economy, trade and countering disinformation
And so, a new Entente forms

 No.507041

>Speaking at the start of high-stakes UNSC meeting today, UN undersecgen @DicarloRosemary says the world cannot afford 'even the possibility' of further conflict in Ukraine

 No.507042

>>507037
>OSCE chief monitor for Ukraine says monitors have been to site of kindergarten shelling and will report back more details

 No.507043

>Russian Deputy Foreign Minister: The Ukrainian authorities did not implement the provisions of the Minsk agreements

 No.507044

>>507037
>I'm gonna post my opinion about the russian matter in here as well, it's my post, you can't do nothing about it:
it's shit

 No.507045

>Russian Deputy Foreign Minister at UNSC: The Ukrainian army is using prohibited methods in eastern Ukraine

 No.507046

>>507042
I hereby dub this "the kindergarden war".

I called it first so now everybody has to call it that.

 No.507047

File: 1645117996641.gif (5.97 KB, 104x255, Happening level 4.gif)

<10 threads in
Will we get something?
For now we got nothing.
Happening-con still at 4.

 No.507048


 No.507049

>>507047
In your opinion, what would it take to move the happeningcon up to 3?

 No.507050

>"This crisis directly affects every member of this council and every country in the world," @SecBlinken says at the UN
>"The most immediate threat to peace and security is Russia's looming aggression against Ukraine," @SecBlinken told @UN Security Council
>"The most immediate threat to peace and security is Russia's looming aggression against Ukraine," @SecBlinken told @UN Security Council
>Blinken: "Russia may describe this event as ethnic cleansing or a genocide, making a mockery of a concept that we in this chamber do not take light, nor do I take lightly based on my family history”

 No.507051

>>507049
NATO troops in Ukraine

 No.507052

>>507049
A very big false flag by the Us that would push it all to the brink.
I'm saying this because for now we don't know what are Russia's next moves but we do know that:
1) Us is out for blood
2) Russia has NO intention to invade

 No.507053

>>507049
level 3 is unilateral russian invasion of donbas.
level 2 is nato involvement and ground war.
level 1 is nuclear exchange.

 No.507054

>>507051
Fair
>>507052
Imo, that would leapfrog it to a 2
>>507053
Fair

 No.507055

>Blinken: "I am here today not to start a war, but to prevent one. The information I presented here is validated by what we've seen unfolding in plain sight before our eyes for months”
>U.S. Secretary of State Blinken says Russia's military buildup of 'more' than 150,000 troops on Ukraine's border is a 'manufactured provocation'
>Sec Blinken says he is laying out in detail what the US is seeing to push Russia to abandon the path of war & US will be "relieved if Russia does not invade Ukraine and US "will gladly accept any criticism" if there is not an invasion
>Blinken says he invited Russian foreign minister Lavrov to meet next week to "discuss the steps that we can take to resolve this crisis without conflict." Alongside meetings at NATO-Russia Council and OSCE

 No.507056

>>507054
Nevermind, it would be a three. I changed my mind.

 No.507057

>British Minister of State for Europe and North America: Russia has fabricated a dispute in the Donbass and continues to fuel it
>British Minister of State: We condemn the proposal of the Russian State Duma to recognize the independence of the regions of eastern Ukraine

 No.507058

>>507049
I would take it to level 3 if Ukraine actually started invading the DPR and the LPR, thus putting in motion the "double false flag" the US wants to use as Casus Belli.

 No.507059

>>507052
>2) Russia has NO intention to invade
They send the opposite message by massing troops and building logistical infrastructure to support an invasion. So no we don't know that, unless you work at the Kremlin and are private to some information the rest of the world doesn't have.

 No.507060

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 No.507061

>>507059
what is different about these troop movements from past years'? more troops?

 No.507062

>>507049
5 more minutes

 No.507063

>>507059
Have you ever seen an invasion preceded by months of nothing?
NATO has given tons upon tons of weaponry to Ukraine in the meanwhile, so what would for Russians the point of giving their opponent all this time?

 No.507064

File: 1645118573691.gif (1 MB, 640x480, 1638583256815.gif)

>>507059
>putting a handful of soldiers on a border with a hostile country like they do every. fucking. year. means the russian barbarian is about to invade

 No.507065

10 threads of nothing lol

 No.507066

>>507060
>>507063
>>507064
>hmmm today I will deny facts to own the US and nato, I am a marxist

>>507063
All invasions are preceded of not invasions and military build ups, the point of what Russia is doing is to build strength to have cards on the table in their struggle with NATO and the west, and that means letting the possibility of military conflict be a real one.

 No.507067

>>507066
Where are the proofs, anon?

 No.507068

>>507066
>hmmm today I will deny facts to own the US and nato, I am a marxist
the fact that gave FSLNanon is right, if they wanted to invade they wouldn't wait to ukraine get weapons. cope.

 No.507069

>>507067
On the Ukrainian border, in the black sea, in the diplomatic channels between Russia and the western countries.

 No.507070

>>507069
by that logic, NATO has been about to invade Russia for decades now

 No.507071

>>507068
They don't "want" to invade, Russia wants Ukraine in its sphere one way or another, with a military invasion being a possibility.

 No.507072

>>507065
the class traitor is back

 No.507073

>>507070
Nuclear powers don't invade each other. Please learn geopolitics 101 before doing reddit snarky remarks.

 No.507074

>>507071
>They don't "want" to invade,
Post of FSLNanon:

>>2) Russia has NO intention to invade

your post:
>They send the opposite message by massing troops and building logistical infrastructure to support an invasion. So no we don't know that, unless you work at the Kremlin and are private to some information the rest of the world doesn't have.

>dilate.

 No.507075

>>507073
Of course, Russia should let itself become encircled because they should simply trust NATO. Something that US/NATO would never accept and has broken its trustworthiness many times over for that exact reason
>Please learn geopolitics 101 before doing reddit snarky remarks.
Lol the irony

 No.507076

>>507074
You don't understand how diplomacy and statecraft work. It's brinkmanship, saying Russia doesn't have any intention to invade is like saying Cuba didn't had any intentions to use nukes in 62. They don't "want" to, but they want to let the threat be the realest possible in order to achieve strategic objectives.

 No.507077

>>507075
>Of course, Russia should let itself become encircled because they should simply trust NATO.
Who said anything about "accept"? Wtf could russia have done about it?

 No.507078

>>507075
Where did I say that? Shut the fuck up please, being a good Marxist doesn't mean abandoning common sense and fighting strawmen.

 No.507079

>>507077
Annex Crimea/support war in Donbass out of legitimate security concerns that NATO isn't listening to?
>>507078
You literally said that Russia should know that it because it has nukes, that it could not have legitimate security concerns. Idiotic, naive, childish, go back to reddit.

 No.507080

>>507079
so you're saying russia should invade donbass, but the other dude's CIA for entertaining the possibility that they will.

 No.507081

>>507078
What's so wrong with Russia moving troops around his country?

 No.507082

>>507080
Nope, Russia didn't have to invade donbass and they got what they wanted. I'm saying they had a real reason to support a proxy war there, not because Nuclear Putler is le taking over the world!1

 No.507083

>all this just to kill a pipeline

 No.507084

>>507055
>US "will gladly accept any criticism" if there is not an invasion
fuck, sizzle confirmed

 No.507085

>>507082
>not because Nuclear Putler is le taking over the world!1
keep arguing with the voices in your head.

 No.507086


 No.507087

>>507085
Keep coping bitch

 No.507088

>>507085
Why then would Russia invade Ukraine? Because Putin is le crazy madman? They have Minsk already

 No.507089

>>507076
>is like saying Cuba didn't had any intentions to use nukes in 62
Except Cubans said explicitly they intended to use the Cuban missiles, even immolate themselves in pro of the global revolution. What are you saying or pretending to imply with this strawman argument?
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/news/cuba/2018-01-11/dark-beyond-darkness-cuban-missile-crisis-book
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB449/
https://elpais.com/diario/1989/01/30/internacional/602118013_850215.html

 No.507090

HOLY SHIT, TURN ON THE TV, PUTIN JUST TRANSFORMED INTO VLADOLF PUTLER AND IS RANTING ABOUT THE JEWISH ANGLOS

 No.507091

>>507090
wtf, based

GOTT STRAFE ENGLAND

 No.507092

vladolf putler just flew over my house

 No.507093

>>507088
>tells me why russia should invade ukraine
>asks me why russia would invade ukraine
Are you ok anon?

 No.507094

So has Germany or EU made any updates on Nordstream 2?

 No.507095


 No.507096

>>507094
They so far accepted the cuckening without further comment: https://www.rt.com/russia/549674-ukraine-blocking-nord-stream/

 No.507097

>>507093
>doesn't know what the Minsk accords are and how they can prevent Ukraine from joining NATO which is Russia's only objective
>continues to babble

 No.507098

File: 1645120979066.jpg (205.04 KB, 866x1390, Vladolf Putler.jpg)

>>507090
VLADOLF PUTLER GANG (ASS)EMBLE

 No.507099

>>507073
Yeah, but the fact they have been encircled, and the U.S. is practicing piracy (stealing oil tanks, and such) tells me they want to strangle their economies by doing modern piracy.

 No.507100

>>507097
>continues to argue against self

 No.507101

>>507099
This shit doesn't work.

 No.507102

>Ukraine will NOT negotiate with pro-Russian militants, because it is nonsense, said Zelensky

 No.507103

@752343
aw. the poster is retarded

 No.507104

Dubs and war within a few days

 No.507105

>>507102
Starting to think Ukraine and Russia are taking the possibility of war a lot more seriously than US does.

But fucking around with Russia's security just to kill a pipeline to your puppet is exactly the sort of short-sighted play that US would make, and would lead to full scale disaster.

 No.507106

>>507101
I never said it was easy for the U.S. "workable" but if they are allowed to, they would do it.

 No.507107

>>507102
>i hate it, it's gay, and it's nonsense
lol

 No.507108

>>507102
but they already negotiated - minsk ii

 No.507109

>>507102
>Ukraine will not negotiate with pro-Russian militants, because they are cringe, said Zelensky

 No.507110

>Reports of renewed shelling in the area of Stanytsa Luhanska and area of Lysychansk

 No.507111


 No.507112

>>507108
Zelensky is a literal clown

 No.507113

Why is Zelensky such a retard? He changes his stance every five minutes. Has somebody put shit in his pants?

 No.507114

>>507098
dictator man bad

 No.507115

It's just boring at this point, either do something or fuck off faggots

 No.507116

>>507113
He's literally a figurehead puppet of the oligarch establishment and NATO.
Like Macron, his gay party doesn't even have any concrete positions. He's the Ukrainian Buttigieg.

 No.507117

>>507105
>But fucking around with Russia's security just to kill a pipeline to your puppet is exactly the sort of short-sighted play that US would make, and would lead to full scale disaster.
Well you know the saying, the history of international relations is essentially made of mistakes in calculations

 No.507118

>>507105
The end result of this shit is the USA alienating the EU further away from itself. It's short sighted because their foreign policy is what you get when you allow the profit-motive dictate your politics. It's insanity on the one hand because it furthers their collapse, but rational from the standpoint of maximizing profits in the here and now.

 No.507119

>>507116
But Adam Something told me he's the second coming of Jesus!

 No.507120

>>507113
That happens when you don't have sovereignty, you are a vassal/puppet state. Learn that for the rest of your life because will save you time recognizing what states deserve a little bit of praising or support upon self-determination, and which doesn't.

 No.507121

>>507119
adam is something of a cuck and a bitch to the west, if an minister of the west came and asked to fuck his wife he would soy at the opportunity of democracy entering his woman.

 No.507122

>>507116
>>507120
You would think he would be given a consistent stance though. I like to imagine random NATO countries ringing him up and yelling at him telling him to give contradictory statements as he runs around panicking.

 No.507123

File: 1645122727301-2.jpg (8.16 KB, 224x225, 1642610352193.jpg)

File: 1645122727301-3.jpg (112.68 KB, 433x650, 1644127150126.jpg)

Finally, Posadas prophecy is being fullfilled

 No.507124


 No.507125

>>507098
ebic, take all my upvoots

 No.507126


 No.507127

File: 1645123099726.png (28.22 KB, 250x300, nothing burger.png)

All your time shitposting ITT will amount to nothing

 No.507128

File: 1645123115636.png (37.31 KB, 1467x850, ClipboardImage.png)

This graph gives a bit of a skewed view since it doesn't show a larger range of dates, so excludes other previous flare-ups. But it's good to show that during this specific flare-up, today was a significant increase in tensions.

 No.507129

File: 1645123415838.gif (1.56 MB, 220x220, walking.gif)

>>507128
Me on my way to violate the ceasefire

 No.507130

>>507037
Reminder to call it THE Ukraine

 No.507131

>>507130
lol, i'm out of the loop, what's the meaning?

 No.507132


 No.507133

File: 1645123991065.png (696.86 KB, 750x588, ClipboardImage.png)

https://twitter.com/Himat75/status/1494377430953467909?cxt=HHwWioC9xeOWjL0pAAAA
>DNR military units to be put on 'high alert. Rumours of the (unprecedented) evacuation of some separatist towns near the front.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1494379535768309760?cxt=HHwWgMCq0aWRjb0pAAAA
>Russian troops allegedly returning to their permanent deployments.

https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1494375122056192000?cxt=HHwWgIC59bCQi70pAAAA
>Armed helicopter(s) sighted near the border.

https://twitter.com/UkrWarReport/status/1494376118161485830/photo/1
>The Clown visits the front.

https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1494368002241933315?cxt=HHwWhsC5lfrxh70pAAAA
>The Ukrainians respond to some shelling.

https://twitter.com/Pabriks/status/1494356445088915469
>Map of the sites Russia shelled today. (pic rel)

 No.507134

>>507131
They get annoyed when you call it the Ukraine as it's the geographical region, the country is just called Ukraine. It's a common way of saying it though (like the Netherlands) but they get annoyed as it's perceived as denying them statehood.

 No.507135

File: 1645124131488-0.gif (24.08 KB, 310x760, happening con-5.gif)

File: 1645124131488-1.gif (21.91 KB, 310x760, happening con-4.gif)

File: 1645124131488-2.gif (24.4 KB, 310x760, happening con-3.gif)

File: 1645124131488-3.gif (23.75 KB, 310x760, happening con-2.gif)

File: 1645124131488-4.gif (23.22 KB, 310x760, happening con-1.gif)

>>507047
Is it just me or does your gif not work? Take mine

 No.507136

>>507135
he saved the thumbnail

 No.507137

>>507134
thank you, the anon

 No.507138

>>507133
>https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1494379535768309760?cxt=HHwWgMCq0aWRjb0pAAAA
>>Russian troops allegedly returning to their permanent deployments.

>All of the seething in the replies.

Lol NATOstanis are begging for an invasion just so they can be right about Putler

 No.507139

>>507135
It's very much possible, gonna download these.

>>507128
The record is around 100 iirc, so 45 isn't that much.

 No.507140

>>507065
This

>>507072
Why do you call him a "Class Traitor" for being an Anti-Revisionist Marxist-Leninist (he is a Hoxhaist while I am a Maoist) and refusing to take sides in Inter-Imperialist conflicts and be a Bootlicker for Dengist China and Putinist Russia?

 No.507141

File: 1645124360478-1.jpeg (233.49 KB, 1280x960, FL0XJ-gXsAIHZIl.jpeg)

>>507133
i didn't realize this guy was a fucking manlet

 No.507142

>>507140
begone schizo defending schizo

 No.507143

>Thread 10.0

 No.507144

>>507141
height discrimination is just as bad as being a racist. fuck off back to /pol/

 No.507145

>>507141
Supposedly he's 5'7''

 No.507146

>>507144
>height discrimination is just as bad as being a racist
Remember the heightocaust? The nazis killed 7 million manlets. That's one million more than the jews they killed. I would say heightism is even WORSE than racism.

 No.507147

>>507145
"The height of dragon energy"
t.Haz
(Probs still coping)

 No.507148

>>507142
Is Anti-Revisonism "Schizo" to you Revisionist?

 No.507149

>>507145
there's no way he's 5'7 ft (170 cm)

 No.507150

>>507146
The Tallocaust is coming, healthy-backlets

 No.507151

File: 1645124736892.gif (1.98 MB, 293x240, Bt9HHgv.gif)

Ukraine? What Ukraine?

 No.507152

File: 1645124873641.jpg (65.99 KB, 960x960, tfw manlets.jpg)

>>507150
You'll be defeated again.

 No.507153

>>507146
You joke, but the memory of the massacre of the manlets at Tinyman Square is fresh in everyone's minds. Have you no shame?

 No.507154


 No.507155

>>507145
Slavs will only respect a manlet leader, they are based

 No.507156

>>507140
>while I am a Maoist
No, sir. You are a clown.

 No.507157

File: 1645125381251.jpg (653.95 KB, 1920x1920, WEkraine.jpg)


 No.507158

File: 1645125418059.mp4 (6.49 MB, 540x540, 0fyDXgRdUBGiBlNo.mp4)

>>507037
all i got from this punking was this vid.

 No.507159

File: 1645125448989-0.jpg (53.07 KB, 590x414, putin short.jpg)

File: 1645125448989-1.jpg (69.7 KB, 600x468, tito jfk.jpg)

File: 1645125448989-2.jpg (65.47 KB, 860x573, stalin short.jpg)

>>507155
I mean, you're not wrong.

 No.507160


 No.507161

>>507151
I get that it is supposed to be "Satirical", but these Memes about Stalin supposedly killing "Millions" of Ukrainians really bother me. This is due to the fact that they simultaneously parrot both the Anti-Communist "Holodomor" conspiracy theory created by the Nazis, and the Great Russian Chauvinist Revisionist history promoted by Dugin and Putin that Stalin was a "Russian Nationalist", who tried to Russify all Non-Russian ethnic groups (this is especially laughable consider Stalin was Georgian, a ethnic group oppressed by the Russian Empire). In reality, Stalin was a Anti-Revisionist Marxist-Leninist who staunchly opposed Great Russian Chauvinism and upheld Lenins principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations and thus allowed every major ethnic group to have their own SSR, including Ukrainians.

 No.507162

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary/status/1494384481381363715#m

>NATO’s Czech Republic: “The Russians aren’t crazy. There will be no invasion of Ukraine. This is 1 of 3 CIA lies, first was WMD’s in Iraq, 2nd that Taliban will never take Kabul & 3rd one is that *Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent.”

>- Czech president Zeman

>Zeman: “I received word that the attack would begin in 5 days. The news came from the US, 5 days ago . Well, as you can see, it didn't happen, In any case, it was a CIA report. On the basis of the three cases mentioned — I doubt the quality of their sources.”

 No.507163

>>507162
and he's not a manlet either

 No.507164

>>507163
Are you a faggot or why do you care about another man's height?

 No.507165

>>507164
manloid detected

 No.507166

>>507161
Does Ukrainian peoples right to self determination mean they get to determine what happens to Crimea and DPR? Is a nation a people or a plot of land?

 No.507167

>>507161
socialism in one country is revisionism.
TROTSKY GANG

 No.507168

>>507164
As Mao said: "No height, no right to speak."

 No.507169

>>507168
actually the quote is "no drip, no right to speak."

 No.507170

What a garbage thread, I can't wait till this nothingburger gets shoved into the annals of history. From the first I knew this was just normal geopolitical maneuvering and nothing else. I give it one month before Ukraine threads finally die off.

 No.507171

File: 1645127385064-0.png (288.43 KB, 610x403, 101.png)

File: 1645127385064-1.jpg (9.33 KB, 225x225, images.jpg)

File: 1645127385064-2.jpg (107.91 KB, 800x450, mrbones.jpg)


 No.507172

>>507170
It's a something burger since these are major geopolitical plays, war or not.

 No.507173

>>507172
t h i s
the nothingburgerers won't rest until a nuke is launched

 No.507174

>>507170
yes, but you never know which one will be the one

before ww1 you had 2 or 3 morrocan crises, the crisis regarding the building of the baghdad railroad, ruso-japanese war, annexation of bosnia etc. etc.;

 No.507175

The world economy will pay a heavy price if the West imposes new sanctions on Moscow, the US Treasury warns
If Russia launches an invasion of Ukraine, the global economy will suffer an inevitable fallout as a result of newly unleashed Western sanctions on Moscow, the US Treasury secretary warned on Wednesday.

Speaking to French news agency AFP, Janet Yellen explained that the US and its European allies are preparing a “very substantial package of sanctions that will have severe consequences for the Russian economy.”

However, despite Washington wanting the highest cost to fall on Moscow, she admitted that there would be “some global fallout” from the measures.

The primary concern of Washington and Brussels is the potential impact of economic sanctions on the global energy market. As a major exporter of energy, Moscow supplies around 40% of the gas used by EU countries. The bloc’s energy security could be in danger if Moscow were to cut off its gas pipelines in retaliation for economic sanctions, some have claimed. And even if Russia doesn’t limit its supply, energy prices could still rise even further in the event of a large-scale conflict in Europe.
https://www.rt.com/russia/549679-us-warns-global-fallout/

 No.507176

its a good opportunity to study propaganda in real time

 No.507177

Ukraine reveals new gun plan
Allowing people in Ukraine to legally own handguns would greatly improve national security against outside “aggressors,” Ukraine’s Defense Minister Aleksey Reznikov told news agency RBK Ukraine on Thursday. The move would “increase citizens’ personal security, help law enforcement and certainly reduce crime rates,” the minister claims.

Reznikov said on Thursday he has been a “longtime gun-rights supporter”, adding that “as a lawyer” he believes a gun law is long overdue in Ukraine. In late 2021, the local UNIAN news agency published a piece calling Ukraine “virtually the only nation in Europe lacking a gun law.”

The defense minister has advocated the idea of people “getting a right to … carry handguns” and pointed to the experience of “many other nations.” Reznikov also argued that it would help Ukraine prevent a potential aggression.
https://www.rt.com/russia/549759-ukraine-guns-legalize-defense-minister/

>school shootings incoming in Ukraine

 No.507178


 No.507179

>>507166
As you can see from this ethnic map of the 2001 Ukrainian Census (these results are very similar to those conducted under the USSR), Crimea is majority ethnic Russian and should thus be part of Russia, while the Donbass is majority ethnic Ukrainian and should thus be part of Ukraine, and ideally both Russia and Ukraine would be a SFSR and SSR respectively, of a Global USSR. This is according to the National Delimitation policy of the USSR that drew the borders of the various SSRs (and ASSRs) based on which ethnic groups were the majority in each region.

 No.507180

>>507177
Ah yes let's flood a country poor as fuck with NATO guns and let's distribute them around to everyone.
Mexico tier violence in 3 2 1

 No.507181

its also also a great time to check which news sources and e-celebs are attempting to funnel pro war shit directly into you mouth

a lot of people have decided to show their entire ass over this and it is kind of a iraq style watershed split

 No.507182

>>507177
based ukros planning to engage in protracted people's war

 No.507183

File: 1645128270294.png (1.53 MB, 2550x1587, ClipboardImage.png)

>>507179
USA is 99% republican

 No.507184

>>507180
it's fucking insane

they are fucking up their own country right before our eyes

 No.507185

>>507183
>political allegiance = ethnicity
burger moment

 No.507186

>>507173
>>507172
Or you can just admit you're horny for a war instead of soberly making a materialist analysis of the situation. The only people who are beating this war drum is the US state department and the majority of the media. Almost every single independent news source understands that this is the norm and has happened before. How is it that an independent liberal news source like NPR and a bunch of others on the ground have a better material analysis of this Ukraine thing? Please tell me, that's the only thing I want you to answer. Please tell me your schizo analysis based on your need for war.

 No.507187

>>507177
>handguns would greatly improve national security against outside “aggressors,”
Holy kek

 No.507188

>>507185
>Not getting the point.

 No.507189

Putin is losing the propaganda war now. Nato and co has played this well today

 No.507190

>>507185
im pointing out that sub-regions like counties are artificial boundaries and a map showing populations without density doesn't represent a majority

 No.507191

File: 1645128545661.png (163.07 KB, 462x310, 90% of USA Population.png)


 No.507192

>>507180
>>507184
>no don't let the poors have guns nooo
libtard

 No.507193

>>507183
If you read this link to the 2001 Ukrainian census results https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Census_(2001)#National_structure you will see that Crimea is majority ethnic Russian, while the Donbass is majority ethnic Ukrainian. I don't know what you are trying to insinuate, LOL.

 No.507194

>>507190
Indeed, we should have russia be sovereign over every russian speaker and ukraine be sovereign over every ukrainian speaker. Just abolish the border already, since no no border is granular enough.

 No.507195

excuse me, waiter?
i ordered a nothingburger but my geiger counter keeps going off

 No.507196

>>507192
>you should be happy that nazitown has guns to everyone.
retard

 No.507197

>>507192
Yeah, dude, arming people in a country where fascists roam free, they pass anti-minority laws, and are puppets of the main imperialist country will assure a proletarian revolution and not ethnic cleansing, banditry, and reactionary terror against the populace.

 No.507198

>>507180
Mexico's violence is not because poor + guns, it's because it's a state bordering the US that is used to efficiently exploit proles labor so to sell cheap commodities to Americans. Serbia, Montenegro Uruguay have enormous amounts of guns but way less violence.

 No.507199

>>507197
The people you talk about already have enough guns and ammo to do this.

 No.507200

>>507193
>Donbass is majority ethnic Ukrainian

The whole region is ~60/40 Ukranian/Russian but the major population centers are all >70% Russian and even including rural regions they vote more against Kiev.

I think that there are a lot of ethnic Ukrainians in the east that are aligned with Russia/Russian interests because the oligarchs are trying to sell them for a cheap profit.

How does the principle of self determination deal with the majority funding death squads to and purge Russians and their minority Ukrainian allies "collaborators" as traitors?

 No.507201

>>507198
…and Ukraine just willingly became the US's little butt buddy with nazis in charge, so it's even worse than Mexico

 No.507202

>>507186
There are some major things happening, like Germany (and maybe France?) potentially having a big rift with the rest of NATO due to crucial energy concerns. China's alliance with Russia has only been strengthened, and Europe looks pretty weak while stuck between the US and Russia. So there's plenty to discuss behind the current propaganda/misinformation war, which is also interesting to see play out.

 No.507203

File: 1645129321905.mp4 (7.1 MB, 1280x720, uXCSNF_-iSSzcika.mp4)


 No.507204

>>507186
I'm >>507172, I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I don't think there will be a war (at least not a full on war) and I really hope I am right.

What I'm saying is that the happening is precisely this, US escalating the situation, backing Germany into a corner, flooding Ukraine with guns. I disagree that this is the same as before. I think this time it is unique, and I say so because of how much money and political stake has gone into it.

I don't really get what the US plans. Because I don't believe they want war (at least not full on war), and this amount of clownery for Nordstream 2 seems entirely overboard. What is the outcome of this escalation? I don't get it.

Those saying that the US is merely doing a show of power, I think it's a bad analysis. There are other forces at play here. Russia has become a great ally of China, and they will continue to grow their ties and trade (especially hydrocarbons) these coming years.

I tend to side with the analysis of the folks over at Ahí les Va. This bullshit is a way to destabilize Russia (politically, economically, etc), with the long term goal of installing a government that does the US's bidding. Plus, I also think they want to completely capture the ruling class of Ukraine for strategic purposes. I am guessing that this bullshit includes a campaign they have going on where they are actively lubing the p/bussy of those oligarchs, brainwashing them with sweet promises and sweetheart deals. I think that the calls for evacuations we learned about in the past few days had something to do with this. "Let us get you to safety Mr. Porky. We'll give you a nice suite in New York for the time being. Also, we wanted to talk to you about …"

That's my take, but I'm in the dark mostly. It's incredibly opaque and the amount of fake news is insane. I also don't have any idea what the Russian government is doing right now, it's internal politics, it's stated interest in Ukraine, etc. This is mostly about the US escalating tensions for no fucking reason.

So no, I don't want war, and I expect and hope it won't happen. That doesn't mean that many people won't die, many surely will.

 No.507205

>>507201
I'm not disputing that. But unless Ukraine becomes an highly competitive platform to make cheap commodities for the consumers of richer neighboring countries it won't devolve in "Mexico tier violence". But yeah there are some nationalist crazies who want to ethnic cleanse some people and that could get ugly.

 No.507206

File: 1645129534137.jpg (248.75 KB, 960x684, AID.jpg)


 No.507207

>>507177
give civilians guns so they engage with russian/separatist military and make for great headlines about civilian casualties. and of course not a word about the deplorable strategy of giving them guns in the first place! i love modern discourse (namely, the fact that it doesnt exist at all)

 No.507208

>>507190
I like how the second map is from the Ukranian wikipedia page on the Russian language while pic related is from the Russian wikipedia page on the Russian language. Anyway I suspet the second image is bullshit. Most of Ukraine speaks Russian. Even Zelensky and Poroshenko are native Russian speakers.

From the Russian wikipedia page:

The efforts of the Ukrainian government brought little tangible short-term results, so that the actual spread of the Russian language in Ukraine during the first 10-15 years of its independence, according to some sources, did not decrease, and according to others, even increased. For example, in 1989 in Ukraine, 80% of the total number of books sold were books in Russian[43], and in 2004, excluding textbooks, this figure was 95%[19]. The holdings of Ukrainian libraries consisted of 60% Russian-language literature[47]. In those regions of Ukraine where Russification has practically approached 100%, there has been practically no recovery of the Ukrainian environment. For example, in the Donetsk region, where the last Ukrainian school was closed in 1989[43], in 2003 only 4% of students were taught in Ukrainian[19] and 96% in Russian. Only 2% of films released in Ukraine in 2004 were in Ukrainian[19]. On the other hand, in the field of education, there were trends towards a reduction in instruction in Russian. For example, the number of kindergartens with Russian as the language of instruction decreased by 2001 to 22%, the number of schools to 29%, and the number of students studying in Russian to 22%[48]. See also Narrowing the scope of the functioning of the Russian language.

In 2004, in connection with the change of presidential power, talks about making the Ukrainian language more widespread in all spheres of Ukrainian life intensified. But things did not go further than talks and demonstration actions.

A significant part of the population (up to 30%), who consider Ukrainian as their native language, preferred to use Russian. Some researchers, analyzing these data, came to the conclusion that sufficient conditions were not created in Ukraine for the normal functioning of the Ukrainian language, and therefore a significant number of people with their native Ukrainian language were in an environment where they could not use it effectively[19].

According to a number of observers, the results of the 2001 census indicated that the Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine are the largest language community in Europe, whose language is not recognized as a state or official language[49], and represent the largest Russian-speaking community outside the Russian Federation[50]. According to some researchers, “survey results indicate that Ukraine is actually a bilingual country” (for example, a study by the Institute of Sociology of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine (IS NASU)[51])

 No.507209

>>507206
oh no we got too cocky tradbros

 No.507210

>>507204
The US is freaking out because it has no answers to the China-Russia alliance steadily chipping away at its entire imperial network of value collection by organizing it all under one valve that China now holds in its hand rather than many disparate small intakes that the US had more direct control over. Russia is in particular attempting to drive a wedge between the US and the EU and all it has to do is keep stirring the pot while making offerings to the EU to pull them away from the US while forcing the US into unwinnable situations that keep making it less and less favorable for the US to keep as a partner.

 No.507211

>>507186
How are the people you responded to 'horny for war'? The people saying "nothing is happening until war starts" are the people begging for war.

 No.507212

>>507208
it's probably bilingual vs monolingual?

 No.507213

>>507202
>There are some major things happening, like Germany (and maybe France?) potentially having a big rift with the rest of NATO due to crucial energy concerns.
You don't have a good grasp of time. This was already written or what's the saying? The writing was on the wall. Germany has been becoming an independent power bloc for 10 years now, especially in these past 5 years. This tiny NATO thing is a normal song and dance and Germany and what not was already on that long road. History doesn't happen in one event overnight. This is the problems with zoomers that think every little event means a massive historical event. History moves slowly, true happenings happen over decades and centuries, wars are only a culmination of many many happenings.

Engels predicted WW1 because as early as 1890, everyone could see the rush to modernize and militarize. He saw it coming because it was something happening over years and years of social/economic/historical development.

I can tell you this based on history. We are not moving towards some endogenous crisis like a global war. The problems today are climate crisis and economic financial bubbles which cause bigger problems domestically than globally. Alot of problems today are internalized like even refugees and immigration. If there is anything we are moving towards it's civil crisis, maybe balkanization or civil wars or open execution of immigrants and refugees at borders which is happening.

 No.507214

>>507185 (you) picrel

 No.507215

The absolute state of the Ukrainian military

>Two armored vehicles collide with each other during military exercises of the 🇺🇦 Ukrainian forces.

>🙄 We are not starting yet

https://nitter.net/Intel_sky/status/1494113917802627074#m

 No.507216

>>507200
Don't ask him tough questions, he will never answer and later on will exclaim no one answers his.

 No.507217

>>507215
I saw a video a couple of weeks back of them driving a BTR with a bunch of guys on the roof down the road and they fucking fly off the road into a ditch

 No.507218

>>507217
Holy kek please link

 No.507219

>>507161
Another based take. Keep it up King

 No.507220

File: 1645130699800-0.png (61.72 KB, 1016x737, fluency.png)

File: 1645130699800-3.jpg (30.67 KB, 400x321, russian-in-ukraine.jpg)

>>507212
>it's probably bilingual vs monolingual?

 No.507221

>>507215
That impact costs some millions to repair, tbh.

 No.507222

<Ukraine reveals new gun plan

>Legal gun ownership in Ukraine would make any aggressor think twice before attacking it, Kiev’s defense chief believes


>When any potential foe is aware that Ukrainians… are in possession of a certain amount of handguns and other firearms, it is an additional reason to think about a potential cost of aggression.


https://www.rt.com/russia/549759-ukraine-guns-legalize-defense-minister/

 No.507223

>>507222
all this is gonna do is increase the bloodbath size because there retards are unorganized, good.

 No.507224

>>507218
I found a copy of it but it's apparently from years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2aou4dmFuk

 No.507225


 No.507226


 No.507227

>>507224
That's worse than the Holodomor, Solzhenitsyn, and Chernobyl combined.

 No.507228

File: 1645131315934-2.gif (112.24 KB, 1199x759, ukrmap.gif)

File: 1645131315934-3.png (459.79 KB, 1596x1058, IMG_3097.PNG)


 No.507229

>>507228
can you stop with the pointless map dumb?

 No.507230

File: 1645131634516-0.gif (695.57 KB, 1833x1192, 1576612641988.gif)

File: 1645131634516-1.png (357.12 KB, 600x390, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1645131634516-2.png (130.34 KB, 250x264, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1645131634516-3.png (488.75 KB, 1200x795, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.507231

>>507230
you realize that p. much everyone ITT knows about this shit, right? you are basically spamming shit nobody needs or wants to see

 No.507232

>>507230
fucking stop, jackass.

 No.507233

im already out of maps but you are making me want to find more

 No.507234

>>507233
you are going to get yourself banned

 No.507235

>>507234
i will continue to post relevant maps in generals for the benefit lurkers and libs

 No.507236

>BREAKING: Reports of Donetsk People’s milita evacuating from Aleksandrivka, this is only 11 miles away from Donetsk city centre. (18km) - the situation is deteriorating by the hour, Ukrainians are pushing & lots of EW activity from Donetsk & some say even from Russia (unverified)

>LPR and DPR portions are being shelled by Ukrainian armed forces — local watchdogs are saying that this is the most dangerous night on the LOC “in years”


https://nitter.kavin.rocks/ASBMilitary/status/1494419075451310083#m

thoughts and prayers to the DPR 🙏

 No.507237

Sizzlegang is winning

 No.507238

Just 3 more days of Olympics left and Russia can invade

 No.507239

>>507231
>>507232
>>507233
we have the best schizos on leftypol now don't we, folks

 No.507240

Proxy war on sizzle
Invasion on fizzle
Sorry Posadists :(

 No.507241

>>507240
I hope all the young cucks that only saw the decay of the blackest reaction reduce their countries into miserable piles of shit, and thus supported euromaidan because they were forced into working as an illegal wage worker or tomato picker, gets their shit together :(

 No.507242

File: 1645133306353.png (383.65 KB, 598x479, tiredwired.PNG)

German media is fantasizing about Putin's "possible" war plans. Jesus fucking Christ these degenerates.

 No.507243

What is at risk if the Ukraine takes LPR and DPR? doesn't this lead to a cucking of Russia? Anons do you believe Russia will invade to insure they don't fall?

 No.507244

>>507242
lmao banger of a post

 No.507245

File: 1645134221388.png (71.09 KB, 608x427, ClipboardImage.png)

>>507244
Another banger

 No.507246

>>507243
LPR/DPR won't get taken, but Russia won't invade anyways. Donbass will be a long conflict and Ukraine can't join NATO for as long as there is territorial dispute, so they truly don't need to invade. Unless they are waiting for a provocation/false flag to do so.
>>507242
Top lol

 No.507247

>>507242
$50 says this was made by a butthurt german wehraboo fantasizing about fighting le ruski horde

 No.507248

>>507247
The font is used by a large German magazine. It's not just some online thing

 No.507249

>>507242

It's all atlanticists. When they get the report that the Chancellor was not allowing weapons sells to Ukraine from (if my memory doesn't fail, Croatia) was Der Spiegel who published it, not to praise the chancellor, but to criticize it.

 No.507250

>Russia plans to manufacture pretext to attack Ukraine
oh brother

 No.507251


 No.507252

>>507250
>>507162

Do you think that Russia is feeding false information to CIA agents to make the US look insane? Lmao

 No.507253

>>507246
Well if Ukraine gets rid of DPR/LPR territory disputes its over with means of dominance in force. Russia may not invade either way, don't get me wrong I'm not in the "invasion invasion invasion" crowd. Still if Ukrainians defeat them, the "thier is the no territorial dispute" box checked and ready. I wouldn't put it past NATO to help in the ways they are and continue to with defeating them. Then having NATO troops arrive the same day Ukraine joins. Russia does get cucked if they pull this move I'm describing. Basically masses of mercenaries, Nazis, and Ukrainian fighters dressed as such could go to attempt to occupy LPR/DPR. Am I wrong to believe that would settle the territory disputes?

 No.507254

>>507236
>thoughts and prayers to the DPR 🙏

shove that up your ass and send them money instead

 No.507255

HOLY SHIT

 No.507256

File: 1645135292596.jpg (100.97 KB, 647x689, glowbot.jpg)

>>507254
>send money to enemies of the usa!

 No.507257

So what's the deal about the "Donbas genocide"? Is this a real thing or is this just an invention by the russian equivalent of Adrian Zenz?

 No.507258

>>507254
Right away Agent Mykhail
>>507253
We will know if that's happening when it happens. It would take some time to move all of the Russian separatists out of their entrenched positions. It will take even longer for Ukraine to join NATO. (Troops could still arrive though.) NATO just wants to sanction the pipeline away, not actually go to war over Ukraine.

 No.507259

>>507220
Free Ruthenia
Lwow is Polack clay

 No.507260

>>507259
my mental image of Poland will always be 1939 so i'm always shocked to realize the entire thing shifted west, has that ever happened to any other people, fucking lel

 No.507261

NATO just wants to sanction the pipeline away, not actually go to war over Ukraine.

You sure about that they seem pretty war ready! Putin likely won't back down on Nordstream 2. I guess this all depends on how far either the west or Putin will go. Does Putin truly* want to keep LPR/DPR, how mad does the west want Ukraine in? France/German could block it. Lots of questions but I think the defeat of LPR/DPR definitely brings some new angles to all this.

 No.507262


 No.507263

>>507252
I fuckin hope so because this would be a troll in epic proportions. Imagine trolling the largest empire on earth and they're just running around like cockroaches under a light.

 No.507264

>>507259
Fuck Poland and fuck the Polish.

 No.507265

>>507252
that would be a strategy unprecedentedly hilarious

 No.507266

>>507264
/leftypol/ hates Poland for some reason

 No.507267

>>507260
>my mental image of Poland will always be 1939
what are you fucking 80 years old?

 No.507268

>>507177
Volkstrumm and maybe werewolves / forest brothers moment.

>>507207
Glutting the country with guns to lead to general disorder and to arm NATO stay-behinds in the event of the coming to power of a pro-russian government.
+
As you said effectively pressing gluts of people not fit for military service to fight the Russian military. which will almost certainly lead to massive casualties on the Ukrainian side but will make excellent RFE propaganda.

 No.507269

>>507266
>some reason
Read literally anything about the Polish Second Republic, or just talk to any Poles at all.

 No.507270

File: 1645136989481.jpg (26.59 KB, 487x557, 1645041621799.jpg)

>Russia senpai pls invade for we can do a war uwu pls

 No.507271

>>507242

Ah yes, the famous "arrow vortex" plan of attack

 No.507272

say something nice about him

 No.507273

>>507272
He can barely get into rollercoasters.

 No.507274


 No.507275


 No.507276

>>507269
Fuck Russians because they're no longer communist too, right?

 No.507277

>>507242
>how many red arrows do you want on this map ?
<yes

 No.507278

>>507275
he's doing this to his entire country

 No.507279


 No.507280

>>507275
>make the funny meme man from the tv president
He's like a weird amalgamation of Reagan and Trump with the political convictions of Buttigieg.

 No.507281

>>507259
BASED. LWOW is Polish.

 No.507282

>>507281
Was rozjebią, to zasłużycie.

 No.507283

>>507276
Once they fulfill their anti-imperialist function and press the button, I no longer care.

 No.507284

>>507242
Hoi4 battle plans be like

 No.507285

>>507284
HoI4 vs HoI3

 No.507286

>>507261
Sure it would, we will have to wait and see if it happens, it will take time. Also I don't think the Russians care nearly as much about the pipeline as the Germans and Americans do. I doubt that killing it would stop Russian proxy war.

 No.507287

>>507261
The problem is that desire has nothing to do with whether or not someone will go to war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2tQ04JAsnQ

 No.507288

>>507281
>Ideal carveup

 No.507289

File: 1645138703708.png (124.75 KB, 366x393, agiahgsaighafafad.png)

>>507037
Reminder that under every definition, including the Lenin-Hilferding definition of monopoly finance capital, Russia is an imperialist state. Is acting aggressively toward a neutral and sovereign nation and threatening it with war. There is no moral difference between what Russia is doing to Ukraine and what the U.S has done throughout the 20th century to Cuba.

If you support Russia in their imperialistic Muscovite ambitions you are not a socialist, communist or Marxist, and instead a pro-capitalist imperialist apologist.

That is all.

 No.507290

>>507288
>Slovakia gets the Hungarian population in Ukraine, not Hungary

 No.507291

>>507288
>belarus gone
>ukraine still exists
>poland still exists
Horrifying

 No.507292

>>507289
>moral difference
Swiggity swoot, begone with your spooks

 No.507293

File: 1645138847612.jpeg (25.92 KB, 600x375, come-on-now.jpeg)

>>507289
>ukraine
>neutral and sovereign nation

 No.507294

File: 1645138977356.jpg (183.59 KB, 1000x530, agauhguehaawdaa.jpg)

>>507293
Damn moskal, did I ask?

 No.507295


 No.507296

>>507289
Tl;dr, ukrofascist

 No.507297

>>507295
SIZZLEBROS WE ARE BACK

 No.507298

>>507296
Tl;dr russo-fascist (like the russian neo-nazi militias in luhansk and donetsk lmao)

 No.507299

>>507295
The West continues its self-parody.

 No.507300

>>507295
IT'S HAPPENING! FOR REAL THIS TIME! REALLY REAL!

 No.507301

>>507295
2 more weeks

 No.507302

headlines from last hour, lmao

 No.507303

>>507298
Ok fascist

 No.507304

Getting my meme files ready for if Russia invades and for if Russia doesn't invade.

 No.507305

>>507303
Kys fascist

 No.507306

File: 1645139482699.jpg (37.28 KB, 640x475, cinco minutos.jpg)

BREAKING NEWS: US SECRETARY OF DEFENSE MICHAEL FRIEZA ANNOUNCES THAT THE US HAS INTELLIGENCE THAT RUSSIA WILL INVADE UKRAINE IN FIVE MINUTES

 No.507307

>>507302
lol Azov gonna gas their own people and blame the Russians

 No.507308

Russia is imperialist, Ukraine is anti-imperialist. I think I know who I’m supporting.

 No.507309

>>507306
0.002 more weeks

 No.507310

If Russia invades I'm shilling for Ukraine and NATO too

 No.507311

>>507302
I think that Russia is sending them misinfo and they cannot stop bleating it
>>507305
>everyone is a fascist and I hope they all fall into a black hole
go away radlib

 No.507312

>>507289
>neutral state
stopped reading there. 5/10 bait

 No.507313

>>507310
but you already are

 No.507314


 No.507315

>>507313
I'm not I'm in the Russia won't invade camp

 No.507316

>>507290
You're lucky Trianon wasn't harsher.

 No.507317

Russia is thinking of a chemical attack. They're thinking of cyberwar. They're thinking of hacking the midterms. They're thinking of putting shit in my pants to embarrass me, but I did not shit my pants it's a lie the Russians put it there it's a false flag shit in my pants.

 No.507318

>>507317
SOME SHIT JUST FLEW INTO MY PANTS

 No.507319

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>>507311
>nooo! im not the fascist!!! youre the fascist!!! nooo, anyone who disagrees with russian imperialism is a RADLIB!!! NOOO NOT THE SJWs!!!!

 No.507320

>>507289
Бандеровцы лицом к стене

 No.507321

>>507310
If Russia actually invaded Ukraine would be the good guys. NATO too, if they actually tried to contest the invasion in anyway, though they might not, just depends on if its deemed truly worth the treasure and blood.

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>>507295
I wish Putin had a Twitter, and just reacted to this bullshit.

>Damn, I did what?

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>>507316
The Hungarian delegation didn't want to enter WW1 and the Austrians forced it. Hungary was not a sovereign entity and was dragged into it basically by its colonizer. But sure, they deserved it, punish the colonized.

 No.507326

sorry NATO shill's and Azov cuckolds, but russia will buck break ukraine, this failed state is doomed.

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>>753095
>Banderite slogan
mask off

 No.507328

>>507324
Nah just liking shit to send libs into meltdowns

 No.507329

>>507326
>Saying that this NATO/Ukraine/Russia thing is a nothingburger means you love NATO
kek this board has gone to shit.

 No.507330

>real or fake

 No.507331

>>507326
>this failed state is doomed.

Yeah, Russia is in pretty bad shape right now.

 No.507332

>>507330
I feel like they would decide this early in the planning stages

 No.507333

>>507329
cope ukranoid, bull Putin is coming for you.
>>507331
did not knew Russia had annexed Ukraine back already, thanks anon.

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>>507324
>>507328
>But what if head of a state SHITPOSTED on social media?
That would be awful and embarrassing and you should bleach your brain for thinkoing that

 No.507335

>>507330
Glowies not even bothering to get new material. All it will do is cast the curse of Assad on ukraine.

 No.507336

>>507328
>Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin retweeted

>>507334
https://youtu.be/ULeDlxa3gyc?t=83

 No.507337

>>507330
Farcical. Only literal boomers (and older) are falling for this.

 No.507338

>>507330
if Putin were smart he would be feeding western intelligence with disinfo in order to obfuscate his real plans

 No.507339

>>507335
*Russia, and it's happening in this thread right now

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>>507330
>US diplomat
>The "pay to play" crowd are morons
Who knew?

 No.507341

Russia is a fascist capitalist state, Ukraine is anti-imperialist and closer to true anarchist values. Critical support for Ukrayina!

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>>507341
Based and Makhno pilled.

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>>507333
Russian strippers are gonna annex my balls into their vaginas

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>>507339
what do you mean by that

>>507341
>Ukraine is anti-imperialist and closer to true anarchist values. Critical support for Ukrayina!
so that's why so many neocons these days call themselves Anarchists these days huh, poor anarchism, suffered a horrible fate.

 No.507347

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>>507343
>USA is actually an anarchist state

Based and Yankee pilled.

 No.507348

>>507346
>So that's why so many neocons these days call themselves Anarchists

Actually neocons were mostly former Marxists-Leninists. Which makes sense, as M-L's are pro-imperialism usually.

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>>507345
sorry for the loss of your phallus Ukranon, not like you had much use for it.

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>>507348
which is why most of these ML are supporting Ukraine terrorising Donnetsky and joining the Imperialist block, cuz they are pro-imperialism.

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>>507348
You baited me, neocons were trots (not MLs or anarchists) and the fact that you can't see the larger picture, the threats that NATO poses to other countries (including Ukraine), and what it takes to fight back means you just want everyone to link arms and sing Kumbaya and anyone who does any harm or has any conflict is a fascist. Really juvenile. You will probably now claim that I think that Russian oligarchy is inherently better than the West.

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>>507352
Trots are Leninists.

>The fact that you can't see the threat that the Warsaw Pact poses to other countries (including Cuba) and what it takes to fight back means you just want everyone to link arms and sing Kumbaya.


If you oppose U.S intervention in Cuba you by necessity must oppose Russian intervention in Ukraine; Ukrainians mostly don't want them there, a part from the far eastern part of the country that's already been more or less annexed by Russia anyway.

Russia isn't communist. It isn't socialist. It's a capitalist oligarchy and blatantly imperialist.

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>>507354
>n-n-no, you-you're the one seething. N-not me!

 No.507356

Reports indicate that the 23rd Russian online couch division has engaged the 14th Ukrainian internet regiment backed by the 3rd Reddit expeditionary corps

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>>507353
You keep bringing up fantasies, as if it matters what we support or oppose to the people at stake, or as if I imagine that Russia is not an oligarchy, as I already referred to them as. You actually did what I predicted, you claimed that I think Russia is le based, in spite of me calling them an oligarchy in the very post you responded to. Obviously they are imperialist, there is no socialism anymore, almost anywhere. You have a completely childish moral view of the world because you think it's "good guys vs bad guys."

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>>507355
>implying I'm a putinist
lol may you both Russians NATO die each others.

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>>507341
>Ukraine is anti-imperialist and closer to true anarchist values
>anarchist values
>a state
You seem to be glowing, quick neck yourself to stop the glow.

 No.507360

>>507353
>If you oppose U.S intervention in Cuba you by necessity must oppose Russian intervention in Ukraine;
like they are in any way equal, did not knew cuba was joining CSTO, nor that Ukraine was suffeing a genocidal blocking for their ideological stance.

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>>507348
> Which makes sense, as M-L's are pro-imperialism usually.
There's a mass difference between online twitteroids and your active ML guerilla fighter in Palestine, India and the Phillipines, mate.

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>>507353
Is this what porky spend his millions on? Paying people to post dumb shit in leftist spaces?

You do get paid to post this dogshit, right?

 No.507364

Chairman of the "All-Russian Officers' Assembly", retired Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov spoke out against Putin's policy and preparations for war with Ukraine

The Kremlin's policy aimed at preparing a war with Ukraine is inherently criminal. Retired Russian Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov wrote about this in an open letter entitled "The Eve of the War", acting as chairman of the "All-Russian Officers' Assembly", and called on Russian President Vladimir Putin to step down from his post.

Recall that from 1996 to 2001 Ivashov was the head of the Main Directorate of International Military Cooperation of the Ministry of Defense of the country, and held other high positions in the department. Today he is known in Russia as the head of the "All-Russian Officers' Assembly" - a public organization that unites reserve officers of pro-Soviet and national-patriotic views, as well as his critical speeches against NATO.

According to the general, the only threat to the existence of Russia was the degradation of its internal life, and not external threats. “In general, strategic stability is maintained, nuclear weapons are under reliable control, NATO forces are not building up, and they are not showing threatening activity,” he stressed.

Leonid Ivashov is also convinced that the Kremlin's actions will cause irreparable damage to the country and called on the president to "renounce the criminal policy of provoking war."



"The letter indicates very serious changes in the mood of various segments of the population"

Russian politician, ex-deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Gennady Gudkovin a comment to the Voice of America Russian Service, he said that he was personally acquainted with Leonid Ivashov. According to the politician, it is not without reason that he is highly respected among the officers. “Of course, his views on the Kremlin’s policy at different times were quite controversial,” he added. “But the fact that he is now extremely tough, bitingly opposed to drawing Russia into the war with Ukraine, called for Putin’s resignation, pointed out that the system of power created by Putin is degrading and is the main danger to the country,” says a lot. His letter testifies to very serious changes in the moods of the most diverse segments of the population.

It becomes absolutely clear that Russian society as a whole does not want war with Ukraine, Gennady Gudkov stated. According to him, the idea of ​​fighting on foreign territory, and even as an aggressor, is completely unacceptable to most of the country's population. “It seems to me that this is a very important, somewhat turning point,” he continued. “People are aware that the war will be extremely unfair and resolutely do not want to allow it. Therefore, for the Kremlin, this is a serious signal that should be heeded.

The ex-deputy also agrees that the tension around Ukraine is being whipped up largely in order to divert the attention of citizens from pressing internal problems. “On federal TV channels you can hear anything, except for what really worries people. Every day hatred of the outside world is planted there. Meanwhile, Putin himself is well aware that there are no prerequisites for an attack on Russia by NATO and is not expected. All these threats, which the Kremlin replicates through its media, are mythical and do not pose a real danger to the country. So Ivashov is absolutely right here too,” Gennady Gudkov summed up.

"Putin is simply uncomfortable without an enemy"

This is a significant message, says political scientist Abbas Gallyamov . It seems to him that Putin and society as a whole have become accustomed to criticism from liberals for the expansionist foreign policy of the Kremlin. “And here there is a real sensation,” the source of the Voice of America Russian Service believes. – Ivashov unexpectedly voiced, in principle, the same arguments as the liberals, although he fought against the expansion of NATO to the east back in those days when no one really knew Putin either. This is a man whose merits in the eyes of the “national patriots”, in general, do not need extra confirmation. He is known for his nationalistic views, and in certain circles he has the status of a patriarch."

Therefore, of course, this is a shock that makes everyone look at the situation in a new way, says Abbas Gallyamov. In his opinion, such a conversion from patriots to liberals, especially in the performance of a well-known person, clearly demonstrates on whose side the power is now in terms of influencing public opinion.

“Obviously, the Kremlin’s arguments are not able to make a proper impression on the general public, they are not able to convince not only opponents, but even potential allies – people who seem to walk in the same “Budennov overcoat,” he specified. “Ivashov surprisingly correctly noted that the root cause of what is happening around Ukraine is largely due to the Kremlin’s desire to shift the arrows of public consciousness from internal problems to external ones.”

Putin is simply uncomfortable without an enemy, the political scientist believes. “It is no coincidence that from the first days in power he was constantly engaged in the consolidation of society “against someone”. No wonder he exposes his internal critics as agents of some external enemy. Today, the electoral majority that he had is crumbling. Any sociology will confirm this to you. The president's rating has long been below 50%, not to mention the rating of his United Russia party. And in this situation, Putin has no choice but to try to restore the paradigm that once led him to success,” Abbas Gallyamov concluded.

https://www.golosameriki.com/a/ivashov-kremlin-challange/6431260.html

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>>507308
the memes just write themselves

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>>507364
>Голос Америки
Ты че, ебанут?

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>>507311
>I think that Russia is sending them misinfo and they cannot stop bleating it
while I don't seriously believe this is true, it actually wouldn't surprise me all that much, and is frankly a pretty smart idea. It's obvious to anyone that the media has been a hysterical monster in constant hunger of new and outrageous headlines to get clicks or sell news, without any consideration for ethics or creating widespread unrest (money is quite the motivator!). feeding insanity like this while the US is clearly riling up a narrative would be so, so easy

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>>507353
>you by necessity must oppose Russian intervention in Ukraine;

To a certain extent, I do, but I also don't support what the Ukraine is doing to Russians in its own borders. Firstly, ANOTHER REASON WHY the Russians might bother crossing into the Ukraine is due to the fact that the Ukranian government has gone out of its way to commit ethnic discrimination and persecution to its Russian populace and has actively sought to destroy the two Russian "seperatist" republics that have resisted it. Due to the political nature of these two republics and them more or less being pro-Russian and resisting genocide, Russia at least has the incentive to protect them.

>Russia isn't communist. It isn't socialist. It's a capitalist oligarchy and blatantly imperialist.


Agreed, that doesn't mean we should therefore "critically support" the Ukraine either. No one wants to see innocent people suffer because of their governments stupid decisions, I think most of us can agree to that, but you're a fool if you think Ukraine is worthy of support.

Same goes to you fuckin' putinoids. If you guys had an ounce of principle, you'd be more concerned with the Donetsk and Lushenk people's republics and not actively shill for Russia because they're "anti-Nato".

>inb4 I'm labelled of being pro-Nato.

NATO can crash and burn. If Russia does crush NATO, I'll admit, I certainly won't be upset. All I'm saying is develop some bloody critical thinking skills. You're better than this.

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>>507366
read what it says retard

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>>507369
Тебе пиздят, уебок

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>>507364
don't care didn't read, plus you're slav

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>>507370
I'm not Russian and I'm not a Putin shill tho.

 No.507373

I'm a Belorussian Jew who lives in Canada.

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 No.507375

Atlantic council staffer recommended for traveling journalists in Ukraine to eat at a Banderist-themed restaurant lol

https://nitter.net/DanBoeckner/status/1493337868642705408

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>>507364
>Voice of America
lmfao

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>>507368
>You're better than this.
oh yeah? says who?

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>>507373
so are you for or against lukashenko?

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>>507376
Burgers are trying to push for a war. I bet they’re gonna get Azov to push for something.

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>>507368
The US wants to build a forward military base in Ukraine, probably with nuclear weapons, Russia is not Imperialist for stopping the US from doing this. The US overthrew the Ukrainian government, during the Maidan happening so if Ukraine is being imperialised it's from the US.

>If you guys had an ounce of principle, you'd be more concerned with the Donetsk and Lushenk people's republics and not actively shill for Russia because they're "anti-Nato".

The People that live in Donetsk and Lushenk are afraid of ethnic cleansing from the Azov battalion which are ukraininan neonazis that are being propped up by the US puppet regime. These people you pretend to be speaking for want to be part of Russia and they want Russian security forces in Donetsk and Lushenk in exchange for protection. But you know better then they do right, they should take a position of neither side, and gamble that the right-wing goons massing troops and equipment near their towns are just larping.

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>>507289
According to the tenets of Marxism-Leninism-Posadism, the principled position to take is to support NATO intervention into the Russian-Ukraine conflict to the maximum extent possible.

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>>507378
No I am not for the Potato Duce.

I'm mainly concerned with weather Putin will invade Ukraine or not and weather there will be a war between Russia and NATO or not.

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>>507373
Its weird we have several Belarusians on leftypol
>>507196
>All ukrainians are nazis

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>>507383
>Its weird we have several Belarusians on leftypol
See
>>507256

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>>507380
>Russia is not Imperialist for stopping the US from doing this. The US overthrew the Ukrainian government, during the Maidan happening so if Ukraine is being imperialised it's from the US.

Ok, I'm not denying this. You do realise I'm responding to this anon for similar reasons you are.

>The People that live in Donetsk and Lushenk are afraid of ethnic cleansing from the Azov battalion which are ukraininan neonazis that are being propped up by the US puppet regime. These people you pretend to be speaking for want to be part of Russia and they want Russian security forces in Donetsk and Lushenk in exchange for protection.But you know better then they do right, they should take a position of neither side, and gamble that the right-wing goons massing troops and equipment near their towns are just larping.


1. Mentioned the idea of Ukranian government comitting genocide, don't see how this is an own on your end.

2. That's mighty rich coming from you, considering there are those in the Donetsky and Lushenk people's republics who want full independance. The communist party of Russia is actively making a request that these two seperatist republics be recognised as their own entities.

https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/01/19/communist-party-submits-draft-resolution-to-state-duma-on-raising-issue-of-russia-recognizing-donetsk-and-luhansk-people-s-republics

So with that in mind, learn some reading comprehension and quit being a numpty. Would you rather have extensions of Russian oligarchs or the chance for two independant states to pursue their own sovereignty and destiny- including that of the SLIGHTEST POSSIBLE CHANCE that they may become socialist republics.

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 No.507387

Surprise: they are just making shit up

>Amazing interview of the former MI6 chief with the Atlantic Council's @B_judah (the whole gang present) where the intel goon *admits* that many western "intel leaks" media outlets are dutifully conveying aren't real leaks but propaganda messages designed to undercut Putin.


https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1494303861846294537#m

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>>507387
That is what leaks are. Like they're almost all intentional. Funnily enough in the IC/natset/journo world the use of the word leak actual implies intentional disclosure. They like to use it, I guess, as a joke on us.

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>>507325
The Bavarian people didn't want any part in the Prussian entry in ww1 either, but their king made them.
See how retarded your argument is? The Hungarian nobility were very happy owning huge swathes of non-Hungarian territory.

 No.507390

>>507385
>communist-party-submits-draft-resolution-to-state-duma-on-raising-issue-of-russia-recognizing-donetsk-and-luhansk-people-s-republics
Didn't also the Russia United Party also drafted their own proposal? I am scratching my head trying to see if there is one.

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>>507294
Ты не хохол

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>>507391
Love all the arrows, really learns me up good

 No.507394

Why hasn't Putin invaded Ukraine yet?

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>>507394
not happening until Changlympics are over

 No.507396

It's Putin who's being the aggressor here. He's positioning and repositioning and running his troops around in attack mode across the Ukranian border while making hysterical gopnik demands. The West isn't really doing anything to stop him except trying to twerk at him with the media. He knows that most of America's military is in the Pacific and he knows that neither America or the EU have an appetite for war not the public nor the politicians. He wants Ukraine cucked and back in his sphere of influence and thinks he can buck break and frighten at least the major EU countries Germany and France into giving it to him.

 No.507397

>>507391
>Putin is about to invade!
>NATO never promised not to expand Eastward!
>Russia is the aggressor!
>We have always been at war with Eastasia!
No wonder everything sucks, US is trying to use 1984 as an instruction manual.

 No.507398

>>507394
Why invade Ukraine? They just want Minsk enforced and are scaring people into taking it seriously.

 No.507399

>>507398
Maybe /pol/tards are in the US government and are trying to meme it into reality.

 No.507400

>>753728
Simply agree to enforce Minsk then, which France recently suggested.

 No.507401

File: 1645162705531.jpeg (41.97 KB, 918x506, 241583-markets1.jpeg)

'Big provocation': Pro-Russian rebels shell Ukraine kindergarten amid tensions

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>>507401
Those are some durable windows

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>>507401
Comrade BoJo let it slip that this was a false flag, kek

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>>507396
Can I see you in the dark?

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>>507399
Bilnken and friends are certainly trying to meme it into existence

 No.507406

>>507403
sauce?

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>>507406
It's all over twitter, I think he just got confused about what 'false flag' means or whose side it happened on lol

 No.507408

>>507401
Is this a photograph? I thought it was a blender scene when I first looked at it.

 No.507409

>>507396
For the reading comprehension of the rest of us can you try to write this again like a human who doesn't spend 112 hours a week on social media?

 No.507410

>>507409
It's simple, Putin is a slay queen and he wants Ukraine coping+seething+malding, though he is afraid of being ratio'd and taking the L from NATO. The media is being real sussy about it, and the rebels find the prospect of war to be poggers. And Germany is being a messy bitch about the pipeline.

 No.507411

>>507390
Tried looking on duck-duck go, to no avail. But if there is an article that does confirm this, please link it.

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>>507401
>the fuckin lamp up above is intact
>zero shrapnel marks on walls
>zero scorch marks in or outside
>no crater under the hole
>no hole in the wall opposing the hole
What the fuck did they hit it with? A dummy RPG round?

 No.507413

>>507412
Most likely an armor piercing tank round. Others twitter analysts have noted how the building was conveniently located at the edge of town with nothing behind it, and also that there's no way in hell the shell could have come from Russian-aligned territory as the sheer range would mean the shell would hit the roof, not clean through the side.

 No.507414

>>507413
A tank round would've gone through more than one wall. In the pictures, the wall opposite of the hole is clean. I just said that. Whatever it was, it landed inside, doing no further noticeable damage.

 No.507415

>>507401
I’m just going to say it; looks fake as fuck

 No.507416

>>507414
And another video showing the "shelling" was a single scorch mark on the ground. Which was flat, like it's a texture. No crater.

And around the hole, lies the insulation, not a single scorch mark on it.

Considering the height of the hole, I'll say they used a tank cannon to ram it.

 No.507417

>Nearly half of Russian forces massed near Ukraine are now within 30 miles (48 km) of the border, British sources say - Guardian

 No.507418

>Commander-in-chief of Ukrainian army Zaluzhny on possible evacuation in occupied parts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions says that Ukraine is not planning any offensive operation or targeting of civilians infrastructure. Says such preparations could suggest provocations

 No.507419

File: 1645171968887-1.jpg (195.58 KB, 1200x677, 22393824_0.jpg)

>Russian MoD map showing the 291st Motorized Rifle regimentand 136th Motorized Rifle Brigade returning from Crimea to Chechnya and Dagestan. The 1st Tank Army unit is the 6th Independent Tank Brigade/47th Tank Division

 No.507420

>Northwestern Donetsk: shelling reported near Yasinuvata checkpoint

 No.507421

>Joint Forces Operation: 60 ceasefire violations yesterday. Novozvanivka was targeted with 152mm artillery. 2 Ukrainian servicemen were wounded

 No.507422

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>>507419
> We are going to attack any minute now we are fucking insane! We are gonna attack! Hold me back!

> Yes! He's gonna attack! He's fucking mental! He's gonna attack any second now! Oh Fuck!


Props to the based Biden administration and Western media for calling the bluff of the Putinoids with their own trolling.

 No.507423

>>507422
t. an imbecile

 No.507424

>>507422
The ukrops literally started shelling yesterday for NO FUCKING REASON, and drew the russian forces back.

They even shot up their own fucking school with an undercharged mortar shell to prove a point.

 No.507425

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>>507418
>We're planning an evacuation of local population from some of the residence area around Donetsk in the temporarily occupied territories.
>We're obeying the Minsk Accords.
>We are not planning any offensive operations.
>Our actions are defensive in character.
>The Russian Federation is responsible for this.
>In the last 19 hours, 47 ceasefire violations took place. 38 of which were by means forbidden by Minsk accords.
>Using disinformation and propaganda, Russian occupation administration is blaming the Ukrainian Armed Forces in shooting up peaceful citizens.
>These gross violations of Minsk Accords must be investigated.

 No.507426

>Russian Defense Ministry: Air Space Forces, Southern Military district, strategic missile forces, Northern and Black Sea fleet will take part in Strategic nuclear exercise

 No.507427

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says his country would be ready to host "nuclear weapons" if threatened by the West.

Lukashenko also said that Minsk could deploy "super nuclear weapons" if their "rivals and opponents" took "foolish, unreasonable steps".

Tensions between Russia – an ally of Belarus – and NATO have reached unprecedented levels over troop movements near Ukraine.

Lukashenko visited an Osipovsky nuclear weapons storage site on Thursday as part of joint Russian-Belarusian military drills.

"If necessary … we will deploy not only nuclear weapons but also super nuclear weapons – promising weapons – in order to defend our territory," Lukashenko said, according to national media.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/02/17/belarus-ready-to-host-nuclear-weapons-in-case-of-western-threat-says-lukashenko

SUPER NUCLEAR WEAPONS

 No.507428

>>507427
Yup, look up Status-6.

 No.507429

>>507426
MORE EXERCISE

 No.507430

>>507426
just nuke kiev already

 No.507431

Holy shit a ceasefire violation just flew over my house

 No.507432

File: 1645176667556.gif (5.9 MB, 346x215, NQjgc89.gif)

This fucking manlet won't let the world breathe. I can't fucking sleep all month worrying about him starting a war. This is starting to affect my mental health bros. Why can't he just fuck off and leave Ukraine alone? Why does he do this to the people of the world? Europe was at peace before the manlet came along. Nobody thought of going to war with anybody. What the fuck.

DO SOMETHING BIDEN!

 No.507433

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>>507432
VLADOLF PUTLER MOMENT

 No.507434

>Shelling in the area of Starohnativka and Hranitne

 No.507435

File: 1645177124736.gif (688.32 KB, 500x200, original.gif)

>>754076
Help me, Obi Biden'obi, you are my only hope.

 No.507436

File: 1645177387009.webm (3.74 MB, 480x360, 1401411217990.webm)

This fucking boomer won't let the world breathe. I can't fucking sleep all month worrying about him starting a war. This is starting to affect my mental health bros. Why can't he just fuck off and leave Russia alone? Why does he do this to the people of the world? Asia was at peace before the boomer came along. Nobody thought of going to war with anybody. What the fuck.

DO SOMETHING PUTIN!

 No.507437

>>507436
why worry, nobody is getting nuked over ukraine, not every flareup of international tension is the cuban missile crisis

 No.507438

>>507437
why worry, nobody is getting gassed over serbia, not every flareup of international tension is the morrocan crisis

 No.507439


 No.507440

Vladislav Surkov wrote an article about how Russia will take back it's lost territories. He's Putin's Chief ideological propagandist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov

> In February 1918, a historic (and somewhat hysterical) meeting of the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party took place. It approved the decision to conclude peace with Germany. This world, known as Brest, was previously given an additional and clearer name in the opposition press (there was one then) - obscene.


> And indeed, the world turned out to be directly offensive. Under its terms, Russia abandoned the vast territories of the Baltic States, Belarus, and Ukraine that previously belonged to it. The western border rolled back far to the east, pushing the country into the pre-Petrine, one might even say, pre-Romanov times. Nowhere is nicer.


> The humiliating “treaty” was, ironically, canceled not by Russia, but by its former (abandoned) allies. In the same year 18. After that, the Soviet Republic and further the Soviet Union gradually returned the lost lands. Apparently.


> But geopolitical processes are slow, their results do not immediately appear from under the heaps of stunning events. The collapse of Russia, which began in the 17-18 years of the last century and seemed to be stopped by the communist state at the cost of colossal sacrifices, did not actually stop. The great mighty Soviet Union turned out to be not a fortress, but something like a Chernobyl sarcophagus, inside which the reactions of division, decomposition and alienation continued.


> As a result, if we compare the modern map of the European part of our country with the map approved by the notorious Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, there will hardly be many differences. Surprisingly, the western border of today's Russia almost literally coincides with the line of limitation, to which the Bolsheviks cowardly agreed in 1918 after the presentation of the German ultimatum.


> It turns out that Russia, after many years, was again pushed back into the borders of the "obscene world." Not losing the war. Not sick of the revolution. Some ridiculous perestroika, some murky glasnost was enough to make the patchwork Soviet empire come apart at the seams. This means that a fatal vulnerability was built into the system.


> So, what is next? Definitely not silence. There is a lot of geopolitics ahead. Practical and applied. And even, perhaps, contact.


> How could it be otherwise, if it is crowded and boring, and awkward … and it is unthinkable for Russia to remain within the boundaries of an obscene world.


> We are for peace. Of course. But not for obscene. For the right one.


https://echo.msk.ru/blog/statya/2980190-echo/

 No.507441

>>507440
what a revolting cretin

 No.507442

EU making preparations for a million war refugees
Brussels is preparing for more than a million Ukrainians to attempt to cross into the EU to escape war
https://www.rt.com/russia/549799-eu-predicts-refugee-crisis/

 No.507443

>>507442
Fuck slavs stay in your capitalist paradise

 No.507444

>>507442
Oh so now suddenly refugees are fine

 No.507445


 No.507446

File: 1645179938347.gif (21.91 KB, 310x760, happening con-4.gif)

>>507421
<60 violations
Not few not many.

<152mm

This is more interesting. High caliber artillery signals high tension.

 No.507447

>>507446
who gave you officially the control over the happening con?

 No.507448

>>507447
No one did. Feel free to post yours.

 No.507449

File: 1645180486768.png (117.27 KB, 780x538, 636546858.png)

HOLY SHIT, AN UKRAINIAN JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE-

 No.507450

Ukranians believe they're superior yet they probably make even less than colombians
The holomodor didn't happen but maybe it should have…
Well not really but man Ukrainians are a bunch of cunts

 No.507451

>>507450
The Ukrainian famine did happen. The holodomor is an accusation of conscious genocide, which didn't happen, and shouldn't.

 No.507452

>>507444
They've always been fine with gusanos.

 No.507453

what's up with these countries? is this Hoxha's fault?

 No.507454

File: 1645183395015.png (97.2 KB, 200x334, sickos.png)

>>507207
I can just imagine it now. Little old grandma takes a glock out of her purse, gets lit up by an armored column. Westoid journalist is taking photos from his hotel window across the street going "yeees, shoot her more, CNN is going to love this"
Next it'll be child soldiers.

 No.507455

>>507454
VOLKSSTURM MOMENT

 No.507456

>>507453
There are a ton of volunteers from those countries because they see it as a repeat of the 90s, same way there were Greek volunteers for the Serbs and mujahedin for the Bosnians.
There are Chetniks fighting in Donbas too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_separatist_forces_in_Donbas#Independent_DPR_forces
https://www.dw.com/ru/%D0%B7%D0%B0-%D1%87%D1%82%D0%BE-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%8E%D1%8E%D1%82-%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B1%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B5-%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8B/a-17855080
(use the translate function on your browser if it has one)

 No.507457

>>507456
>use the translate function on your browser
dont tell me what to do, you nazi

 No.507458

why is romania so cucked too?

 No.507459

File: 1645185169285.png (Spoiler Image, 234.03 KB, 500x800, 598e9fd066863b034e7f386053….png)

>>507451
>The holodomor is an accusation of conscious genocide, which didn't happen, and shouldn't.
can you recommend me further reading on the matter? i only have a cursory understanding of the history

 No.507460


 No.507461

>Occupation authorities in parts of Donetsk region claim that they’ve killed two members of saboteur group of Ukrainian army attempting to blow up cylinders with chlorine in Horlivka. Saboteurs were speaking Polish language
"This event is known propaganda, displayed for awareness"

 No.507462

>Axios on officials: Raising the level of emergency in the United States in anticipation of cyberattacks on infrastructure and hospitals

 No.507463

>U.S. ambassador to OSCE says we assess that Russia probably has massed 169,000-190,000 personnel in and near Ukraine as compared with about 100,000 on Jan. 30

 No.507464

>>507461
>chlorine
ah, yes, the chemical attack Assad Putin was planning against his own people

 No.507465

File: 1645187746992.png (28.45 KB, 639x118, ClipboardImage.png)

>>507401
>>507403
These people running this whole psyop are braindead. FUCKING BRAINDEAD. Yeah, sure, plaster it all over the news that separatist rebels shot a kindergarten, excellent bit of propaganda. But now you're SERIOUSLY taking, and sticking with, the line that its a false flag? A Russian false flag that Russians shot a Ukrainian kindergarten? What the FUCK are you SAYING? They aren't even coherent at this point, the fucking propaganda and psyops cannot stand with these foundational contradictions, please, for the love of FUCK somebody in the media or online PLEASE JUST POINT OUT HOW THESE TWO THINGS CANNOT BOTH POSSIBLY BE TRUE AND THUS THERE MUST BE SOME OTHER ANSWER

 No.507466

>>507441
shut the fuck up limpwristed faggot

 No.507467

>>507466
he shits on the USSR constantly, you reactionary faggot

 No.507468

>>507465
Russia false flagged themselves because false flagging ukraine would be too risky. it's 1000000 autism score strategy

 No.507469

File: 1645188654397.jpg (568.87 KB, 2500x1786, Vladolf Putler.jpg)

Vladolf Putler

 No.507470

>>507469
adomir hitlin

 No.507471

File: 1645189026710.gif (Spoiler Image, 136.79 KB, 742x283, Map_of_NATO_chronological.gif)

progression of cancer in human body

very graphic

 No.507472

>>507470
>adomir

Translates to "Hellpeace"

 No.507473

>>507459
What reading is to be had on a thing that didn't happen?

>>507460
Those historians are selling you numbers slightly smaller than craziest estimates. Don't recommend them to anyone.

 No.507474

>>507473
The famine did happen, you moron. It wasn't intentional (genocide), however. Are you a fucking Russian nationalist who found himself this thread? Did you post this shit too >>507466 ?

 No.507475

>>507474
>The famine did happen, you moron.

How many have died, you moron? On picrelated, green is USSR in 1932-33 compared to Russian Empire in 1897. Back then it was less than a million deaths, so USSR's deaths should be even smaller than that. Furthermore, it's a pic of MORTALITY, just mortality, supposedly analyzed from orthodox churches which were counting the dead in 1897 with corresponding Soviet organizations' records in the same regions in 1932-33.

Now then, do tell how many deaths have Wheatcroft and Davies arrived to?

 No.507476

>>507475
>Back then it was less than a million deaths, so USSR's deaths should be even smaller than that.
Based on what? Famines can have degrees of severity, you understand that, right? Just because "good guys are in power" it doesn't necessarily follow that less people die.

 No.507477

Heavy artillery shelling both sides and Russian backed separatists in full escalation mode.

 No.507478

File: 1645190760770.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 60.65 KB, 719x405, 1645190481670.jpeg)

>>507477
jesus fuck
i enhanced the image

what the fuck is Noam Chomsky doing in Ukraine?

 No.507479

>>507469
Its a compliment to Putin. After all Hitler was a based anti-imperialist, socialist and an animal lover. I heard his paintings are pretty good too.

 No.507480

>>507478
Chomsky is the ideological leader of local anarcho-azov battallion units.

 No.507481

https://nitter.net/bidetmarxman/status/1494437868898426880#m

I'm pretty sure that kindergarten thing is a false-flag

 No.507482

>Head of Occupation authorities in parts of Donetsk region says population are leaving to Russia in mass starting today
>Head of Occupation authorities in parts of Donetsk region says there is an agreement with Russian Federation on evacuation of population to Rostov region
>"Zelensky to order offensive soon, Ukrainian army is prepared and is on combat alert", - Head of Occupation authorities in parts of Donetsk region
>Interfax reporting the plan to evacuate several hundreds of thousands of people from occupied parts of Donetsk region of Ukraine
Fizzle Gang is in complete shatters.

 No.507483

>>507463
its the weegur two bajillion meme all over again

 No.507484

File: 1645191845969.png (83.83 KB, 984x624, ClipboardImage.png)

>>507482
THE GREAT TRIAL AWAITS

 No.507485

>>507481
yes boris johnson already said that

 No.507486

>>507476
Look at the fucking pic. USSR had less deaths in famine, OBVIOUSLY. And it wasn't even the worst famine that happened under the Czars.

 No.507487

>Putin: all Kyiv needs to do is sit down at the negotiating table with representatives of Donbass and agree on political, military, economic and humanitarian measures to end the conflict
>Lukashenka (Why do these people call him Lukashenka? Isn't it Lukashenko?) about escalation in Donbass: people are already ready to flee from there and may already be fleeing, this is not normal

 No.507488

File: 1645192357101.mp4 (7.1 MB, 1280x720, uXCSNF_-iSSzcika.mp4)


 No.507489

File: 1645192434035.jpg (78.54 KB, 1024x744, 2426457854.jpg)

>>507488
VLADOLF PUTLER MOMENT.

 No.507490

>>507489
Fuck off Glowuyghur. Putin being alike with herr Hitler is a compliment.

 No.507491

>For the first time in decades, we found ourselves on the verge of a conflict that could drag out the entire continent - Lukashenka
If_only_you_knew_how_bad_things_really_are.jpg

 No.507492

File: 1645192733034.jpg (228.08 KB, 1018x686, 16373396859777.jpg)


 No.507493

>>507487
>>507487
>Lukashenka (Why do these people call him Lukashenka? Isn't it Lukashenko?)
because Lukashenka is Belarusian, their language is similar to but not exactly the same as Russian. In Belarussian, male names end in a.

 No.507494

>>507487
>Why do these people call him Lukashenka? Isn't it Lukashenko?
The surname is actually Lukashenka in Belarussian, Lukashenko is Russian/Ukrainian and more commonplace in the anglosphere

 No.507495

File: 1645193015486.jpg (49.17 KB, 681x245, 73256823659236582.jpg)


 No.507496

File: 1645193073056.jpg (128.61 KB, 1050x707, ibr-5638314.jpg)

VLADOLF PUTLER
DONEPH TRULIN

 No.507497

File: 1645193091682.mp4 (7.1 MB, 1280x720, uXCSNF_-iSSzcika.mp4)

>>507491
Uyghur please im the only one enjoying your map shit. More troop movement less gas pipelines. Oil and gas are important but they get the attention only because its critical from the security stand point.

 No.507498

>Head of occupation authorities in parts of Luhansk region calls for population to leave to Russia

 No.507499

>"I call every male person able to carry arms, to take arms",- Head of occupation authorities in parts of Luhansk region calls for mobilization
Shit's serious

 No.507500

Russian authorities in Rostov are preparing to receive refugees and setting up evacuation buses

 No.507501

File: 1645194140273-0.jpg (Spoiler Image, 226.38 KB, 2120x1414, ways-to-relax-1590605206.jpg)

File: 1645194140273-1.jpg (Spoiler Image, 80.19 KB, 1600x1158, young-beautiful-woman-rela….jpg)

File: 1645194140273-2.jpg (Spoiler Image, 39.21 KB, 626x417, smiling-young-woman-relax-….jpg)

File: 1645194140273-3.jpg (Spoiler Image, 227.89 KB, 1200x1800, 1350657.jpg)

>>507499
>every male

 No.507502


 No.507503

File: 1645194846374.gif (24.4 KB, 310x760, 1645124131488-2.gif)


 No.507504

File: 1645194906162.png (11.76 KB, 259x218, 1986224.png)

>>507501
I think he wanted to say "mayo". But yeah, fe mayos should be invited to bear arms too.

 No.507505

Someone from Die Linke on BT News said that special forces from multiple countries are in Donbass now. If that's true, this fight will be more difficult than in years past.

 No.507506

File: 1645195144681.png (215.19 KB, 604x734, ClipboardImage.png)

>In worrying development that can be Russian casus belli, separatist republic leader in #Ukraine calls civilians to evacuate to #Russia because of shelling & Zelensky's plan to order attack of separatist-controlled #Donbass. I doubt that #Zelensky would issue such suicidal order.
https://nitter.net/I_Katchanovski/status/1494671615120007177

>It's first time in 8 year long war in #Ukraine that separatist leader in #Donbass orders evacuation of entire civilian population to #Russia. There were no such orders in 2014-15 despite much heavier shelling & Poroshenko's orders of military operations.

https://nitter.net/I_Katchanovski/status/1494679829895127053

thread in screencap:
https://nitter.net/maxseddon/status/1494663679534637056

 No.507507

File: 1645195478472.jpg (2.35 MB, 2000x1333, imahterwge.jpg)

>>507506
a lil bit of sizzlin'.

 No.507508

Ok guys:
Type 0 if you're FIZZLE GANG
Type 1 if you're SIZZLE GANG

 No.507509


 No.507510

File: 1645195781436.png (72.89 KB, 640x451, ClipboardImage.png)

Imagine fucking saying this, in the middle of winter, when gas prices are already up like 500% and many people haven't even begun to recover from the pandemic downturn. this reads like a quote that would become infamous through history as a monumental strategic blunder. its like these people are completely disconnected from their own countries and exist solely to further self-damaging and irrelevant causes with no direct impact on their nation. its one of the most concerning recent examples of how these people either do not care or do not want to actually act as leaders of their countries.

 No.507511

>>507510
Well duh, the don't work for germans, they work for the US state departament

 No.507512

File: 1645195897172.png (64.35 KB, 474x267, ClipboardImage.png)

>>507510
that fucking bitch

 No.507513

>>507496
Liberals when asked what these people believe politically

 No.507514

>>507475

The reason why the excess mortality may have been higher in the USSR fine in 1933 is precisely because the USSR had lowered its average death rate noticeably compared to the Russian Empire.

eg. Compare situation A where the std. death rate is 40 per 1000 and rises to 55 per thousand to B where the death rate is 28 per thousand and rises to 50. The later has greater excess deaths per 1000 as defined despite there being less deaths both in normal times and during famine.

So what do we learn? Bourgeois publications manipulate the fact that people do not understand precisely what terms mean and the methodology for their calculation.

 No.507515

>>507510
>Western official: The Ukraine/Russia crisis is now in the "most dangerous phase". An attack could happen with "very little or no notice"

 No.507516

File: 1645196287706.jpg (188.1 KB, 640x859, 9dr86f3qdt671.jpg)

>>507502
>>507499
>>507498
This is truly the blackest reaction.

 No.507517

>>507510
ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE
t. juan guaido

 No.507518

>>507516
I truly fucking hate this century
The greatest material potential for socialist revolution in the past 200 years
The lowest level of consciousness as well

 No.507519

File: 1645196482705.jpg (180.67 KB, 1300x987, 85846745.jpg)

To all of you, have a rare Vladolf Putler picture in these trying times.

 No.507520

First buses to leave at 2000, 4 hours from now

 No.507521

>>507520
>It isn't just empty talk
If the civilians are gone the fighting is going to get really ugly

 No.507522

>>507512
Is she a economic hitman sabotaging the German economy on behalf of the US ?

 No.507523

Reminder that the defcon level at the european center of the US changed to DEFCON 2 a week ago or so.

 No.507524

>>507518
I need a break

 No.507525

>>507519
>PUTIN IS HITLER!
>Right Sector flag in the background
Clown country

 No.507526

>>507523
The only time DEFCON 2 has been enacted by the US military.

 No.507527

>>507525
it's what propaganda so heavy that it's radioactive does to a mother fucker

 No.507528

>>507510
Germans are some of the most pathologically cuckolded people on the planet

 No.507529

fuck hohols stalin didnt eat enough grain

 No.507530

>>507525
"Everyone is Hitler except actual Hitler, who was misunderstood" is shockingly common now.

 No.507531

So for those keeping score after an entire fucking WEEK of Western, particularly US media shouting to the top of their fucking lungs about an imminent Russian invasion that was supposed to have occurred two days ago, the only actual full-scale invasion is being carried out by Ukraine with the aid of NATO arms

 No.507532

>>507523
again, this is a private website that sets their own defcon levels. US defcon levels aren't public

 No.507533

>>507530
oh, yes

 No.507534

>>507510
>we're prepared to sacrifice our slaves to achieve our interests
No shit, what have we learned from the past two years of hellish world plague? Revolution needs to fucking come soon or those retards deserve to freeze to death.
>>507498
>>507520
Good, big respect to the seps for this. Rather than arming little grannies and letting them get killed for atrocity propaganda, they're getting their civvies out of the line of fire. This is what responsible leadership looks like.
It's also worth noting that the LPR leader was an anti-smuggler police commander that cracked a massive smuggling ring on behalf of the republic of Ukraine and got a military medal from the anti-Russian president of Ukraine, and reportedly refused bribes from the criminals. The only respectable politician in eastern Europe if you ask me.

 No.507535

>>507522
No, I wouldn't compare it to what the americans do to the third world. It isn't that bad yet.
She is just one of the many american-funded thinktank lackeys which infest the libertarian and green parties in germany. It seems to be more about aligning Germany with our "transatlantic partners" at all costs.

 No.507536

>>507535
Why don't the German people regain their sovereignty from the Ami occupiers? Literally these Atlanticists want your people to freeze.

 No.507537

File: 1645197518414.png (396.6 KB, 628x883, ClipboardImage.png)

I'm assuming NATO's plan now is to have Ukraine vapourize these busses after filling them up with fleeing civilians, so they can claim separatists did it as a false flag and finally get Russia to initiate an invasion?

 No.507538

>>507536
Germs are cucks

 No.507539

>>507537
I think the most psychotic shit I’ve seen all week was Ukraine shelling a kindergarten full of children while CNN foamed at the mouth ranting about how it’s a Russian false flag

 No.507540

>>507537
damn it looks like that scene from chernobyl

 No.507541

>>507501
extremely based

 No.507542

>>507537
>NATO is willing to blow +200~500 people to pieces(Probably a lot of them kids, they're always the first ones to be evacuated) so a pipeline isn't used.
I hope Washington gets nuked and have salt dropped in it's soil by the russians.

 No.507543

>>507542
They did it in Iraq.

 No.507544

>>507542
>Probably a lot of them kids
LPR did say it was specifically woman, children and the elderly being evacuated, so yes

 No.507545

>>507544
I wonder if our man Texas is going to evac or stay.

 No.507546

>>507537
to clarify since I worded it weird - i believe the busses will be filled with fleeing civilians from the LPR and coordinated by the LPR and Russia, not Ukrainians. Ukraine will be the ones to blow them up and blame LPR for a false flag

 No.507547

File: 1645198105443.png (101.83 KB, 320x286, ClipboardImage.png)

>What would happen if capital succeeded in smashing the Republic of Soviets? There would set in an era of the blackest reaction in all the capitalist and colonial countries, the working class and the oppressed peoples would be seized by the throat, the positions of international communism would be lost.

 No.507548

>>507536
Well, our history certainly doesn't help the case. Most of the people who point out this relationship with the US are either reactionaries or get quickly smeared as such.
But on an economic level, germany has profited massively from NATO, as they outsourced most of the ugly, expensive part of being a world power to the Americans/French/British, and could fully concentrate on building economic and soft power.
In a way, this will one of the many waking calls for Germany that have been repeating this century.
While the country still profits from its relationship with NATO, it is becoming more and more internally contradictory: The more Germany is being expected to pull it's weight, the more it realizes that its actual Interests are more and more in conflict with american ones.
Other NATO countries are feeling this as well, especially France and Turkey. The only part of NATO which is still squarely on the American side of this are the Eastern Europeans like Poland.

 No.507549

File: 1645198241558.png (27.91 KB, 671x214, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.507550

Pictures of people in Donetsk trying to leave the fuck out of here with extensive lines in gas stations, automatic cashiers, JFK!

 No.507551

>>507549
it begins

 No.507552

Ukraine/NATO will attack any minute now.

 No.507553

>>507552
No they won't dumbass

 No.507554

>>507549
>That's exactly what I think is going to happen. They'll shell their own refugees claiming Zelensky did it. With munitions normally used by the ukrainian army.
<Dude, the Khatyn massacre was perfomed by the SOVIETS! They used german ammunitions to make it look like the germans did it!

 No.507555

Pictures of people in Donetsk trying to leave the fuck out of here with extensive lines in gas stations, automatic cashiers, JFK!

 No.507556

>>507554
<Dude, the Khatyn massacre was perfomed by the SOVIETS! They used german ammunitions to make it look like the germans did it!
Yes.

 No.507557

>>507555
>Pictures of people in Donetsk trying to leave the fuck out of here with extensive lines in gas stations, automatic cashiers, JFK!
<Doesn't post said pictures.

 No.507558

>>507554
even if Katyn was done by Soviets, it wouldnt matter. The 50,000 corpses of Katyn were the police, intelligentsia, and the rest of the fascistic bourgeois apparatus that invaded the USSR before WW2 and the only reason why their shitty fucking republic didnt collapse was due to the retardation at the Vistula in 1922

 No.507559

>>507556
>Trusting nazi sources.

 No.507560

File: 1645198556430.png (75.96 KB, 404x316, ClipboardImage.png)

>>507552
5 MINUTES CONFIRMED

 No.507561

>>507556
>random flag picked
<Yes.

 No.507562

File: 1645198617421.jpg (203.33 KB, 1280x960, budyonny.jpg)

>>507558
The retardation has a name.

 No.507563

>>507559
>Trusting ((())) sources
that's how you sound. you don't need to debate and deny the holodomor or the purges or fucking Katyn which was admitted by the USSR to support AES

 No.507564

>>507563
>Oh muh Katyn!
Okay but who gives a fuck about some Polish officers getting shot tbh?

 No.507565

File: 1645198683025.jpg (695.18 KB, 3500x2333, 5684849.jpg)

>>507563
VLADOLF PUTLER MOMENT

 No.507566


 No.507567

File: 1645198766943.jpg (42.48 KB, 828x337, loll.jpg)

>>507564
>didn't happen
<should have happened anyway
>>507565
pic related

 No.507568

>>507565

All these memes will look silly when the massacres really get started.

There is no escape from the cleansing fire.

 No.507569

File: 1645198829967.jpg (19.95 KB, 268x357, 268x357.jpg)

>>507567
VLADOLF PUTLER MOMENT 2

 No.507570

>>507567
Nazbol moment

 No.507571

>>507567
There's something wrong with them alright
If you're going to act up all the time atleast win

 No.507572

>>507564
The people compromising their intellects to insist the soviets definitely didn't do it, clearly.
Katyn was done by the Soviets and it was based.
The only reason the Soviets ever denied it was for realpolitik reasons during the war when the Nazis tried to use it to drive a wedge between the Soviets, Allies and Poles.

 No.507573

>>507510
I miss Merkel

 No.507574

>>507572
Basically the whole Katyn thing./topic
Back to the Ukranian crisis

 No.507575

File: 1645198986607-0.png (310.27 KB, 640x431, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1645198986607-1.png (46.45 KB, 193x262, ClipboardImage.png)

>>507567
Hereditary Reactionary Moment. Also, genes aren't real.

 No.507576


 No.507577

>>507575
>Oh look, I'm going to respond to a retarded reactionary shitpost with another retarded reactionary shitpost!

 No.507578

>>507572
>The only reason the Soviets ever denied it was for realpolitik reasons during the war when the Nazis tried to use it to drive a wedge between the Soviets, Allies and Poles.
Actually the Soviets treated lightly it's reactionary enemies. The reason why Solzhenitzyn was operated of Cancer in a Gulag.
So not really, it's not the soviet way to just kill 50.000 reactionaries, but it's the nazi way to do so because they were poles.
Also fucking german ammunition was found at the Khatyn Massacre, german ammunition which could only be fired from german guns (unless you count the tokarev pistol which used the same caliber, just less powder which, one can see how mmuch force a bullet was ejected by it's form, so…)
The Nazis did it. They were reactionaries so I'm not gonna drop a tear for them, but the Soviets didn't do massacre's like this, the Nazis were, and the entire WW2 is prove of that.

 No.507579

>>507563
Stop glowing

 No.507580

File: 1645199170086.gif (991.42 KB, 498x483, boy-aint-right.gif)

>>507577
What about the ethnic conflict between Serbians and Croats?

 No.507581

File: 1645199197578.jpg (361.23 KB, 937x528, kyiv_07_28_2014.jpg)

VLADOLF PUTLER MOMENT

 No.507582

>>507575
>genes aren't real
I bet $10 you don't even know what this statement means.

 No.507583

File: 1645199280768.png (25.01 KB, 525x193, ClipboardImage.png)

wtf

 No.507584

<Evacuation orders being placed
<Sirens sounding in Luhansk and Donetsk

I wouldn't say we got to a full 3 on the happening scale yet, but we are getting beyond 4 for sure.

 No.507585

>>507580
… What about it?

 No.507586

>>507581
NATO are the ones expanding like Hitler did. Russia knows not to appease.

 No.507587

>>507585
It was some dumb shit

 No.507588

>>507557
Sorry, here you go

>>507563
STFU motherfucker libtard, as Volodymyr was proven to be nazis, after decades of being outcried as Soviets involvement, everything hints in Katyn

 No.507589

>>507584
Oh we're getting there all right.

 No.507590

>>507588 (me)
whoops
>everything hints in Katyn
is also Nazi who did it.

 No.507591

File: 1645199582668.jpg (195.79 KB, 1920x1080, 1920x1080.jpg)

>>507586
VLADOLF PUTLER MOMENT

 No.507592

>>507578
>Actually the Soviets treated lightly it's reactionary enemies. The reason why Solzhenitzyn was operated of Cancer in a Gulag.
Solzhenitzyn was a fucking nobody, of course a random russian soldier with reactionary views just gets sent to prison for a while and not domed by the NKVD, the Poles killed at Katyn were the elite of a reactionary anti-communist military dictatorship, slightly different affairs.
Also no idea where you're getting the 50,000 number from, even the most hysterical modern day polish estimates barely put it at half that.
As for the ammo, its well attested that the NKVD often used german guns for mass executions because they were better and the soviets had access to them.
Its embarrassing to twist yourself into knots over this sort of stuff and justify long-abandoned political manoeuvres because you feel like its the only way to be a 'true believer'. Stalin would cringe at this sort of intellectual frailty.

 No.507593

File: 1645199656685.jpg (119 KB, 1024x849, 1644735661738.jpg)

>>507586
>attacks moldova
>attacks georgia
>attacks chechnya
>attacks ukraine
<noooo please don't join NATO we just need the lebensraum bro

 No.507594

>>507588
does he not know that in the Nuremberg trials Katyn was judged to be a Nazi deed ?
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/07-01-46.asp

 No.507595

Two things:

1) Looking up for a based anon setting up cytube if things keep going like that

2) Since this thread could get way more lively, post the soundtrack of these events.

 No.507596

>Russia is very concerned about the latest developments in the Donbass, the suffering of people must be stopped, said Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Vershinin.

 No.507597

Children and old people starting evacuation, now. Videos of people from the Donbas Republic marching to evacuate to Russia are surfacing.

>>507593
>moldova
Good job defending moldovian nationalism that wanted to erradicate russophones.
>georgia
It was Georgia who attacked Ossetia first.
>chechnya
good job defending the right-wing alqaeda proxies, chvd.
>attacks ukraine
Tell me one single obus that came from Russia and landed in Ukraine. No, Donbas is not part of Russia.

 No.507598

>>507593
>>attacks georgia
Georgia literally attacked first
>attacks ukraine
Did Russia invade Ukraine already?

 No.507599

Seems like Putin is going to address the Duma "soon"

 No.507600

>Explosion in the center of Donetsk
>a few dozen meters from the government building
https://twitter.com/AndreyZhukovv/status/1494704251343409154

 No.507601

>>507597
Are you defending putang?
That manlet should retire to his mansion and fuck off
I'm not defending the Ukraine either
>Muh eu

 No.507602


 No.507603

>>507593
>Attacks Georgia
Even the EU admits that Georgia attacked first and was at fault for the conflict
https://www.mpil.de/files/pdf4/IIFFMCG_Volume_II1.pdf

 No.507604

HOLY SHIT VLADOLF PUTLER JUST ANNEXED MY HOUSE!

 No.507605

>>507602
Hopefully there is some insane journalist who wants to die and is livestreaming from donetsk

 No.507606

File: 1645200661522.jpg (24.31 KB, 1193x641, bom.jpg)

reports that the explosion was a car bomb

 No.507607

>>507599
This might be also a form to push Russia to station a huge deal of military presence in Donbas, to deter any military action. Donbas leaders may also want to push a stance on the Moscow side.
<Lukashenko said in a conference after meeting in Moscow with authorities, including Vladimir Putin, that "for the first time in decades we are at the doors of a conflict that could involve all the continent"

>>507601
Shouting facts now makes you a "putinnist"? good, put me on the list, and be a CIA payrolled poster on another site.

 No.507608


 No.507609

>>507606
Is there an Irish volunteer brigade, perhaps?
Or just one of the local leaders getting whacked for a last-minute change in leadership in some brigade or another?

 No.507610

File: 1645200838342.png (43.2 KB, 753x240, ClipboardImage.png)

Nordstream II confirmed as the only reason any of this shit is happening. enjoy freezing to death EUcucks

 No.507611

>>507606
Where is that photo from?

 No.507612

File: 1645200933662.png (18.13 KB, 508x196, ClipboardImage.png)

>>507611
probably this?

 No.507613

>>507612
We have a rare copy now. Let's make an NFT of it.

 No.507614

File: 1645201060499.jpg (80.09 KB, 1280x853, bom2.jpg)


 No.507615

>>507611
РИА НОВОСТИ

 No.507616

File: 1645201146711.png (34.85 KB, 534x267, ClipboardImage.png)

cytube?

 No.507617

>>507602
Telesur? How's the bias on Al Jazeera in this conflict in particular?

 No.507618

>>507597
>that wanted to erradicate russophones.
damn, fuck poland for eradicating danzig germans am i right? also, Moldovan nationalism was literally created by Stalin after he took it from Romania kek, under support of the Nazis btw
daily reminder that Russification exists, and that even during mein GroßUSSR people outside of Russia often spoke Russian due to necessity
daily reminder that Ukrainian was banned from being taught during the Russian Empire
daily reminder that Ukraine got forcibly annexed by the Russian SFSR, despite having anarchist and leftist movements

 No.507619

>>507618
Putler is genociding Ukrainian culture bros….

 No.507620

File: 1645201388998.png (1.74 MB, 1441x827, nominativedeterminism.png)

>>507617
more balanced than western press but still generally cucked

 No.507621

>>507542
>getting angry about things that you imagine happening

 No.507622

After some confusion, seems Russia is indeed taking the evacuation seriously.

– The governor of Rostov has asked the Kremlin for help
– Putin is sending the emergencies minister to Rostov to deal with refugees
– every refugee who arrives gets 10,000 rubles on Putin's orders

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1494704495623815175

 No.507623

>>507607 (me)
Videos in question.
>>507610
And also Russia is the main oil exporter to the EU, lmao. Eurocucks love to pay expensive oil and gas from the U.S. Colonizers, to now colonized by amerimutts.

 No.507624

>>507619
We must defend "Ukrainian" >culture

 No.507625

>>507559
>the reopened soviet archives are nazi sources

 No.507626

>daily reminder that Ukrainian was banned from being taught during the Russian Empire
Then let be taught under USSR
>daily reminder that Ukraine got forcibly annexed by the Russian SFSR, despite having anarchist and leftist movements
Hilarious, dont care.
>daily reminder that Russification exists, and that even during mein GroßUSSR people outside of Russia often spoke Russian due to necessity
Cant believe Stalin made Ukranians speak to eachother in Russian
>damn, fuck poland for eradicating danzig germans am i right? also, Moldovan nationalism was literally created by Stalin after he took it from Romania kek, under support of the Nazis btw
>
<
?

 No.507627

>>507618
none of what you said is in any way relevant to the situation or justifies the oppression of Russophone minorities in those countries.
Revanchist cultural or physical genocide is still genocide.

 No.507628

File: 1645201738272.jpg (23.66 KB, 355x533, pig01.jpg)

>>507618
Ой, сало, сало, сало, українське сало,
Ой, яке ж воно смачне і його завжди мало,
Я до сала вже так звик, є цибуля і часник,
Покладеш сало на язик.
Сало, сало, сало, українське сало,
Українцям того сала завжди буде мало.
Щоб у вас і у нас все завжди стояло,
Треба їсти наше сало.

 No.507629

The EU plan on natural gas is to use the russian pipeline as a back up while northern natural gas (already expensive) can be liquifide and sold to the highest bidder, north euro oligarchs can also invest in factories that turn the liquide back to gas(a ralatively cheap investment)
Its a plan to scan the average euro

 No.507630

>>507629
>north euro oligarchs
South*

 No.507631

>>507628
Jesse…

 No.507632

more videos of the evacuation.

 No.507633

File: 1645202019582.jpg (149.32 KB, 768x1024, bom3.jpg)

>Seems like the car that was blown up was the car of commander of Peoples Militia of #DNR Denis Sinenkov
>He did not die. (Thankfully)

 No.507634

When Scholz went to Moscow, he pretty much agreed with Putin on everything, but apparently my government is full of disgusting snakes who now backtrack everything backed by an army of "journalists" and some of the dumbest talking heads I've ever seen, while our foreign minister talks about the "Russia problem" at the MSC.

 No.507635

>>507612
Yeah, seems so, the "car bomb" incident in the center of Donbas. Apparently all men between 18 to 55 are not allowed to leave Donbas. Inminent drafting.

More images of the evacuation.

 No.507636

>>507624
self determination for all peoples, except the ones with shit taste

 No.507637

>>507633
They went for the leaders just like that? Holy shit US wants this war

 No.507638

File: 1645202166576.jpg (99.19 KB, 840x596, downloadfile.jpg)

>>507633
SOLEIMANI PROTECTED HIM FROM THE HEAVENS INSHALLAH

 No.507639

We need a new thread

 No.507640


 No.507641

>>507592
Solzhenitzyn most likely was an informer while in Gulag, and later continued to be KGB-managed. Then Solzhenitzyn's books were smuggled to the West alongside/at the same time period as Secret Speech and various anti-communist books from USSR.

 No.507642

>>507510
Meanwhile, she is fighting to give the head of Greenpeace a German passport so she can become Climate Advocate of the Foreign Ministry, topkek

 No.507643

>>507637
>implying its not putin falseflagging
FSB is as glowie as the CIA, they literally bombed Moscow to invade other countries just like the US did with 9/11
but I forgot they're le based anti-West so it doesn't count, just like how US putting japanese people into internment camps le bad but China putting muslims into internment camps le good

 No.507644

>>507643
Le intelligent post that is not a le caricature

 No.507645

>>507558
>even if Katyn was done by Soviets, it wouldnt matter.

Were killed by Nazis 100%. Agreed on by Nuremberg, even the fucking doctors who were invited to Katyn by Nazis collaborated on that and assumed it was done by Nazis. Moreso, Soviet doctor have seen similar bullet wounds and the method of execution in other PROVEN Nazi shooting grounds. Katyn is 100% Nazi doing WITHOUT A SHRED OF A DOUBT. Meaning that Katyn documents produced during Eltzyn were fakes, meaning that archival evidence of communist crimes is likely all fakes.

 No.507646

>>507643
>FSB bombed Moscow
>US did 9/11
if you believe any of the two you are a low autism score retard. Yes we should mistrust those in power, but this doesn't mean we should believe every shizo conspiracy theory that comes along. Both Al Qaeda and the Chechens were committing atrocities well before their more infamous attacks.

 No.507647

>>754560
>>754560
>>754560
>>754560
>>754560

 No.507648

>>507643
>China putting muslims into internment camps le good
They don't and I'm sure you wanted to use "concentration" instead of internment.

>anti-West

<anti-imperialist (sorta?)
When rightoids say "West" it's fucking vague and nearly meaningless. You don't actually give a single shit about "Western" culture.

 No.507649

>>507510
The more this shit happens, the more likely becomes Russia-style silent purge of liberals/pro-american retards. Present-day Russian course was the direct result of USA not fulfilling it's part of the deal. Europe will act similarly in a coming decade.

 No.507650

File: 1645202651163.png (83.46 KB, 435x445, fed sweaty.png)

>>507646
>if you believe any of the two you are a low autism score retard.
Glowie solidarity?

 No.507651

>>507649
>G*RMans
>not cucking out
Pick one

 No.507652

>>507651
Remember Russia in the 90s? Cucked out on every issue, almost. Got better as USA kept being a dick to them. Germany is in a similar phase of USA being their friend who keeps on making Germany hurt. It's not going to last, Germany will have to sort this shit out.

 No.507653

>>507606
War goal=justified

 No.507654

>Russian forces rumored to be crossing into the LNR/DPR and moving to the LoC

 No.507655

>>507037
ITT: Delusional Russian imperialists.

 No.507656


 No.507657

>>507655
>ignores the last 30 years of encroachment
Sure, the RF is imperialist, as all hegemonic liberal states are, but no one here doubts that and no one here doubts that the US is the clear antagonist in this situation. The 2014 Euromaidan was a coup supported by a pro EU young populace that, unable to free itself of western propaganda, wanted to become like them without understanding that they were colonized by them.
eat shit

 No.507658

>>507641
Solzhenitzyn never set a foot in a "gulag" (meaning work camp).

 No.507659

File: 1645206030537.jpg (61.12 KB, 640x768, diosmio.jpg)

>>507657
As opposed to, being colonized by Russia, when Ukraine had enough of that for the past ~300 years? Just like its happening to Belarus right now thats set to join Russia? Yeah, no doubt their own citizens would prefer to become German slaves rather than Russified.

 No.507660

>>507659
USSR did not colonize Ukraine dipshit.
>Forceful annexation by the USSR
Yeah bro, the anarchists democratically took control of the Ukraine while the USSR was fighting a dozen other empires storming its borders. No mention of the Bolshevik and pro USSR Ukranians that constituted the majority of the left wing there. Retard yankee

 No.507661

File: 1645207375465.png (168.94 KB, 640x775, ClipboardImage.png)

The baddies in the MCU feature-length film that the USA labels 'reality' ALWAYS go after the poor widdle minorities and gays. Specifically. Even when it makes no sense within the context, because thats just what baddies do.

 No.507662

File: 1645207741106.png (88.24 KB, 661x463, ClipboardImage.png)

FINALLY, officially, backpedalling the prerequisite for sanction justification since Russia hasn't taken the bait but they NEED to nuke NS2. Of course, not a moment of introspection will be taken by any member of the media or even worse, the public, for being whipped into a hysterical nothingburger with no pushback.

Also funny to note the single topic of all these headlines has not only been an invasion, but an IMMINENT one, for weeks. MONTHS. And here we have the cuckold queen herself going on record to pivot on a dime towards a different trajectory. AND NOBODY WILL FUCKING QUESTION IT!

 No.507663

File: 1645207885132.png (28.44 KB, 633x127, ClipboardImage.png)

THE RIDE WILL NEVER END

 No.507664

>>507660
>No mention of the Bolshevik and pro USSR Ukranians that constituted the majority of the left wing there.
then why were they uncooperative?

 No.507665

The metadata of the Donbas dude announcing the evac has metadata showing it was created two days ago, meaning this evacuation has been planned well in advance.

 No.507666

File: 1645210694959.png (110.15 KB, 646x457, ClipboardImage.png)

EVACUATING CIVILIANS FROM A WARZONE IS DEPLORABLE, STATE US OFFICIALS

EVACUATING CIVILIANS FROM A WARZONE IS DEPLORABLE, STATE US OFFICIALS

EVACUATING CIVILIANS FROM A WARZONE IS DEPLORABLE, STATE US OFFICIALS

EVACUATING CIVILIANS FROM A WARZONE IS DEPLORABLE, STATE US OFFICIALS

 No.507667

>>507664
White-Black alliance

 No.507668

OMG A HAPPENING FLEW OVER THAT OTHER ANONS HOUSE

 No.507669


 No.507670

>>507657
Firstly, siding with one or the other bourgeois state because its "antagonistic" or "defensive" is bad Marxism and fundamentally anti-revolutionary.

Two, the U.S is not being antagonistic here; Russia is. Ukraine clearly does not want to be ruled by them lol.

 No.507671

>>507662
God what the fuck is wrong with Germans voting for these psycho neocon greens.

 No.507672

>>507661
The US in actuality chooses to back the more reactionary and repressive forces. They say this and then back ultra-anti-women murderously homophobic and repressive fundamentalists in China & Syria.


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