No.509544[Last 50 Posts]
ON THE BRINK EDITIONLet's mantain the civil discussion we were having in the last thread.
Last thread got full.
Sizzle Sizzle or SANCTION MCGRIZZLE - you decide.
TO WATCH FOR NEWS:
https://liveuamap.com/Live updates from Texan commie boomer in Donbass:
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTexacFor Russiabros, analysis from Boris Rozhin:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ (has a telegram, lots of cool stuff there too)
QRD
"Modern Ukraine was completely created by Russia," Putin says in speech to the nation“
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495832687227068422Putin: "We are ready to show you what true de-Communization means to Ukraine."“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495833069676335104“PUTIN SAYS UKRAINE'S ADMISSION TO NATO IS A DIRECT THREAT TO RUSSIA'S SECURITY || NATO TRAINING CENTRES ESTABLISHED IN UKRAINE AMOUNT TO NATO MILITARY BASES“
https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1495840775082737664Putin says Ukraine is a "U.S. colony" with a "puppet regime"
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495840971208429568“Russia claims Ukraine invaded Russia and says 5 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and two APCs destroyed near Rostov.
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1495745864320831492Putin, in televised address on Ukraine crisis, talks about a "nationalistic virus" says 1991 collapse of Soviet Union saw Russia robbed
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1495834881028411393“Putin: "Why did we have to transfer the rights to the territories that had been part of the Russian Empire?"“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495832267687669763PUTIN SPEECH WAS PRERECORDED:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1495775697121517570Russia & Syria officially recognize LNR and DPR
https://mobile.twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1495845600834822147Syria recognizing LNR/DPR
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495847706555781123Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua likely to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk republics shortly
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495850619487371265Putin Calls For Ukraine To Break Apart
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-president-putin-ukraine-break-apart_n_6213d491e4b0ef74d724b3a0"President Biden will soon issue an Executive Order that will prohibit new investment, trade, and financing by U.S. persons to, from, or in the so-called DNR and LNR regions of Ukraine," Jen Psaki says following recognition by Putin of regions as "independent."
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1495858379243282434
>EU leadership @vonderleyen & @eucopresident say that bloc will react with sanctions "against those involved in this illegal act" of recognising Donetsk and Luhansk. >Suggests individual, targeted sanctions: not the big ol' war package that everyone has been talking up for weeks.https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/1495853591764082700Communist Party of Russia has just endorsed Putin's call to recognise the DNR and LNR.
Zyuganov: "Look how zealous the Americans and British are now. They forced Ukraine to send almost all its troops to the Donetsk-Luhansk region. More than 100k in a patch of 40-50km."
https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/1495857447973572610https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-us-biden-sanctions-donetsk-luhansk/>The senior administration official offered a caveat that "Russian troops moving into Donbas would not itself be a new step," since it has had a military presence in the region for eight years. Though Moscow has denied this is the case, "Russia now looks like it's going to be operating openly in that region," the official said. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/21/putin-sends-troops-breakaway-territories-00010447>The official, who requested anonymity in order to discuss sensitive issues, wouldn’t call the move an invasion, however, saying “Russian troops moving into Donbas would not itself be a new step. Russia has had forces in the Donbas for the past eight years.”https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082146367/putin-ukraine-donetsk-luhansk>Russian troops moving into the Donbas would not itself be a new step. Russia has had forces in the Donbas region for the last eight years," a senior administration official told reporters on a briefing call Monday evening.EXCLUSIVE (Reuters) Biden administration has prepared export controls to hit Russian companies with alleged military ties and deny Russians access to global technology, including electronics and computers
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1496170434290724878ACTIVE
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https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast No.509545
IM GONNA SIZZLEEEEEEE
No.509549
All bourgeois nationalists are enemies of the proletariat.
No.509551
>>509549I wish the cucked controlled-oppo KPRF well in overthrowing their master.
No.509553
>>509544>Communist Party of Russia has just endorsed Putin's call to recognise the DNR and LNR.PSD moment
No.509554
>>509551They're increasingly vocal, especially the rank and file. If not them, I think the RKRP-KPSS is a good party.
No.509555
>>509553fuck you the ukranien fascist would have killed the people in donbass russia is riight in protecting them
>>509549Wrong learn historical materialism
No.509557
Happy 2's day anons wishing for a happening on my b-day!
No.509558
>>509556yeah yeah kiddo, go back to your HOI4 mods, there's not gonna be a nuclear war
No.509562
>>509554If this whole thing goes south, it would be the perfect oportunity for the KPRF to attempt to seize power. Such a shame that they are backing this though.
Does anyone know what the public position of the Bolsheviki was in 1914?
No.509563
>>509556There's not going to be any war let alone a nuclear war.
And true Marxist-Leninists oppose Putin. Haven't you been reading these threads? Read what Russian communists in the RKRP-KPSS and VKPB say about him.
No.509564
>>509562Revolutionary Defeatism is, like the abolition of the family, something that bourgeois chauvinists sneer at and can't accept.
<WAHHH not "my" country's troops. No.509565
>>509557Happy birthday anon. Hope you get your happooning today
No.509566
I'd happily see a Russian MLRS barrage flatten every British army base in Europe but it's not gonna happen.
No.509568
So is anything actually happening aside from the annoucement
No.509569
>>509568of course not
nothing burger time
No.509571
>>509570are you talking to yourself?
No.509572
>>509567Ukraine partitioned between Novorossiya, Russia, Poland and Hungary WHEN?
No.509573
Reminder that it doesn't matter which side any of you incels support.
No.509574
>>509567subcarpathia is traditionally pro russian region
No.509576
The screen damaged still think a war is coming hahaha
No.509577
>>509560fuck off socdems support war ML support revolutionary defeatism
No.509578
>>509576Nice one m8 that one frogposting sperg won't know what hit him
No.509579
>>509562And if they do, Nato’s gonna take off the kid gloves or color op them. This is disregarding the fact that the CPRF are controlled opposition
No.509580
OHHH YEAA I'M SUPPORTIN'
No.509581
Are there russian troops in the donbass now or not?
No.509582
>>509581Russian forces or Russian peacekeepers? That seems to be the meaningless distinction that is being made
No.509584
>>509562Here's some Kautsky
>Yesterday it was the German government that took the aggressive, tomorrow it will be the French government, and we cannot know if the day after it may not be the English government. The governments are constantly asking turns. As a matter of fact what we are concerned with in case of war is not a national but an international question. For a war between great powers will become a world war and will affect the whole of Europe, not two countries alone. Some day the German government might make the German proletariat believe they were being attacked; the French government might do the same with its subjects, and then we should have a war in which the French and German workingmen would follow their respective governments with equal enthusiasm, and murder each other and cut each other’s throats. Such a contingency must be avoided, and it will be avoided if we do not adopt the criterion of the aggressive or defensive war, but that of the interests of the proletariat, which at the same time are international interests No.509585
>>509583They're both fake countries.
No.509586
>>509583Khruschevite. Trots got what they wanted since 1917, and this is the result
No.509587
>>509577>revolutionary defeatismMost of us are westoids so roll those fuckin' tanks in.
No.509588
>>509586LOL Putinists are really desperate now, guess Stalin is a Trotskyist now.
No.509589
>>509576dude we have literally no idea what will happen,
both sides (yeah i went there) need to shut the fuck up about predictions. you cannot predict this shit because it's all up to the ruling class' mental illnesses
No.509590
>>509562KPRF is opportunist shite. Their membership is fake to the point of not even being able to send observers during elections since there's no active people in the party. KPRF will never seize anything
No.509591
>>509588No, trots were conspiring against Lenin and Stalin since 1917 and even before that. Lenin was calling Trotky lil' Judas, you know?
No.509593
>>509589They're not mentally ill.
No.509594
>>509584I said it million times, the pseud is read as Kautsky lmao. It is indistinguishable.
No.509595
>>509584And now for the Trotsky input in regard to this
>What at first glance appeared the most surprising thing about it all is, that the Social Democracy had not really felt the need for a political criterion. In the catastrophe that has occurred to the International the arguments have been notable for their superficiality. They contradicted each other, shifted ground, and were of only secondary significance the gist of the matter being that the father land must be defrnded. Apart from considerations of the historical outcome of the War, apart from considerations of democracy and the class struggle, the fatherland that has come down to us historically must be defended. And defended not because our government wanted peace and was “perfidiously attacked”, as the international penny-a-liners put it, but because apart from the conditions or the ways in which it was provoked, apart from who was right and who was wrong, war, once it breaks out, subjects every belligerent to the danger of invasion and conquest. Theoretical, political, diplomatic and military considerations fall into ruins as in an earthquake, a conflagration or a flood. The government with its army is elevated to theposition of the one power that can protect and save its people. Thelarge masses of the people in actuality return to a pre-political condition. This feeling of the masses, this elemental reflex of the catastrophe, need not be criticized in so far as it is only a temporary feeling. But is quite a different matter in the case of the attitude of the Social Democracy, the responsible political representative of the masses. The political organizations of the possessing classes and especially the power of the government itself did not simply float with the stream. They instantly set to work most intensively and in very vaned ways to heighten this unpolitical sentiment and to unite the masses around the army and the government. The Social Democracy not only did not become equally active in the opposite direction, but from the very first moment surrendered to the policy of the government and to the elemental feeling of the masses. And instead of arming these masses with the weapons of criticism and distrust, if only passive criticism and distrust, it itself by its whole attitude hastened the people along the road to this pre-political condition. It renounced its traditions and political pledges of fifty years with a conspicuous readiness that was least of all calculated to inspire the rulers with respect. No.509596
>>509591Sure they conspired but Trots were treated appropriately in the 20s, 30s, 40s.
No.509597
nothing burger
No.509598
I've been trying to think about imperialism as of late. I'd like to start a discussion, on the differences between hegemonic imperialism and multi-polar imperialism.(my terms change if the phenomena can be described better) What are the strengths and weaknesses of these types of material displays of imperialism? What leads to the best conditions for a anti-Imperialist struggle? Personal I believe both types of imperialism have pro's and con's. I believe hegemonic imperialism done by the USA currently obviously does a more brutal imperialism then claims on China and Russia. This being said I don't think either are above acting the same, as America in that position. The only upside is in hegemonic imperialism, the great power struggle is decided by the strength of the hegemon nation. Hegemonic imperialism settles inter-imperialist conflict, multi-polar imperialism brings back inter-imperialist conflict which could lead to mass destruction.
The decay of capitalism and the American empire means the multi polar world is inevitable. Basically I'm a disconnectedist what do I mean by that? I believe the national bourgeoisie still exist! I believe inter imperialist conflict is not only possible in are "inter-connected" world, but is the naturally the result of the crisis's of capitalism. The inter-connectedist believe the world economy is too globalized, that great power conflict can't occur as it's a mutually bad thing for the bourgeoisie. This true for today's gravy train but not for tomorrow's collapse. When the party stops, then the decline turns into collapse when the debt is owed and the resources depleted. It will be time when globalized mutually beneficial relationships turn into conflicts of "living space".
TLDR? join me to talk about the differences between hegemonic imperialism and multi-polar imperialism. While also talking about if the bourgeoisie is still national or too global for inter-imperialist conflict!
No.509599
>>509598create a new thread, retard
No.509601
>>509599I didn't know if their be enough interest on the topic.
No.509603
>>509598hot take: imperialism is very vague. a relatively poor national bourgeoisie can be imperialist (though I've seen disagreement on this board), but resisting them is not what anyone means when they talk about 'anti-imperialism,' which usually refers to hegemonic influences. If a small national bourgeoisie fights a larger one, I find that acceptable in the short-term. Inb4 the Lenin hat pseud claims this is impossible, despite it happening all the time.
>if the bourgeoisie is still national or too global for inter-imperialist conflict!I don't think it's a binary, it depends on each particular situation
No.509604
>>509567<Hungary feasting on Ukraine corpseBig 1938 Poland vibes
No.509605
>>509604more like Hungary 1938 vibes, lmao
No.509607
>>509606I'm sorry anon, the tank is obsolete, there will never be tank battles like in WW2 again. Airpower rules the day.
No.509608
>>509607Russia did actually make a new tank like last year I think
No.509610
>>509608I mean they still have their uses obviously but that doesn't mean that tank vs tank combat is still a main goal of their use. It's more for prestige reasons that Russia and America still compare their MBTs against each other. In practice any tank will be destroyed by airpower or long range ATGMs long before it gets in sight of another tank.
No.509611
>>509610It's true. The new tank looks pretty cool though
No.509612
Watching the WP stream now and it's funny how they're all pronouncing Kiev as "Keev", i.e. the Ukrainian pronunciation as opposed to the Russian "Key-ev". Subtle.
No.509613
>>509610>>509611 me
Now that I think about it, the proxy war in Donbas is maybe the one war in recent memory that didn't have air support, and tanks were a pretty big part of it. A real throwback war
No.509614
>>509612Glowlibs are big on insistent terminology.
>Kyiv>CCPLike Orwell said, control language and you control human thought.
No.509615
>>509614actually very good point
No.509616
>>509608Tanks are fucking worthless without aerial support and infantry, and that was a fact back in WWII before the era of drone technology and satellite surveillance
Tbh the next full scale conflict will likely see the dominance of high-tech semi-autonomous weaponry, bio-engineering, and exoskeleton soldiers
STOP COPING, THE 20th CENTURY IS DEAD,
YOU WILL NEVER FIGHT IN THE SOVIET ARMY, STOP COOOOOOPIIIIIIING No.509617
>>509561Never have, never will. Nice try though.
No.509618
>>509616This. Word by word.
>>509617Based.
No.509619
>>509617Leninhat, the late-stage incelposting.
No.509620
>>509607dex builds stay winning
No.509621
>>509603The inter-connectedist (aka people who say inter-imperialist conflict is impossible) believe the end of history is a permanent setting. Today yes the bourgeoisie has globalized, though I'd say there's regional sphere's (US/EU) vs (RUSSIA/CHINA). With both either 2 spheres up to being broken by conflicting interest. Yes these 2 spheres are inter-connected. It's is the regional/national bourgeoisie in global trade, not a global block of connected bourgeois controlling the market unilaterally. The bourgeoisie may be global but still work inside of the bounds of regional/national interest. Yes they will gladly sell out your nation to work with their global bourgeois buddy's still. America's monopoly Capital want to maintain it's dominant global position. Having a upset to this norm will ruin these relationships. As the bourgeoisie eat themselves, these regional/national bourgeois alliances will need to likely militarily defeat each other. To 1. To destroy capital to cure capitalism but 2. maintain there dominance in the market.
No.509626
>>509617dude, just, can you stop?
No.509627
>>509616Thinking that 'bio engineering' and 'exoskeleton soldiers' are anywhere near ready for actual use is even more silly than being a tankfag
No.509628
People false-flagging as me always makes me laugh.
Rent-free.
No.509629
>>509628They are just jealous of me.
No.509630
>>509627Leaving it at autonomous weaponry would be too boring
No.509631
>>509630Even autonomous weapons aren't anywhere near ready, unless you mean human-controlled drones.
No.509633
>>509632which lenin hat are you?
No.509634
>>509632>>509633One of them is the evil twin, one is the real Leninhat. Let's shoot both.
No.509635
>>509616Completely based and rationality pilled.
No.509636
>>509628I am too correct in Lenin's interpretations', colour me surprised, imitators trying to create a mock out of my infinite wise.
No.509637
>>509632>>509633I would like to contribute to this discussion
No.509638
>>509544Fools I made this thread so I can bitch all day everyday. YOU HAVE FALLEN INTO MY TRAP!
No.509639
Splitters!
No.509640
>>509616>bio-engineering, and exoskeleton soldiersthis is just delusional, the rest is true though
No.509641
I concede sizzlegang, Russia did invade eventually. The time period for when Russia would invade was off by a few days but it was in the end a correct analysis. I imagine that if the days were off that Russia will move from a proxy/cold war to a hot war by invading beyond the Donbas region and instead of Russian separatists and nationalist Ukrainians shelling each other that it'll be Russian troops shelling Kiev. My prediction for when Russia will invade Kiev is most likely during mid March, I don't know what the media is reporting or saying when but if their predictions correlate with when Russia invaded then it'll be off by a couple days to a week. The first prediction I remember was Feb 16, it is now Feb 22 so I imagine March is a good indication for when the whole of Ukraine will begin to get annexed by Russian troops.
No.509642
I'm adopting a tripcode if you assholes keep this up.
No.509643
JOE BIDEN IS AN HOUR AND TWENTY MINUTES LATE
No.509647
>>509642>>509644You really made me do it.
No.509649
Putinists should have their testicles ripped off by wild dogs.
No.509651
Some more news:
>Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitro Kuleba arrived at the US Department of Defense on Tuesday afternoon to meet with defense officials amid new developments involving his country.
>Kuleba was received by the United States Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, in front of the Department of Defense
>"Russia Today must be prevented from broadcasting": discussion in the British Parliament During this Tuesday's session of the British Parliament, some deputies have suggested that Russia Today be banned, to which Boris Johnson replied that "politicians cannot ban the media".
No.509652
>>509645Documents going up
Happening confirmed
No.509654
>>509651Ukrops are kinda stupid
No.509655
>>509640Bio-engineering = engineering diseases, already done in labs for research purposes
Russia has already developed exoskeletons for military purposes
We also don’t know what weaponry states already have but just keep hidden for peer competition
And of course war-time has always led to a rapid development of military tech due to state directed research, remember that WWI began with cavalry charges on horseback and two years later tanks were being fielded for the first time
No.509657
>>509651>to which Boris Johnson replied that "politicians cannot ban the media".wtf non-retarded Johnson moment?
No.509658
>>509645whay false flag if you dont need to :D
No.509659
I’m a bit of a novice on this topic. Did Ukraine exist prior to the USSR? Are Ukrainians and Russians similar? Hopefully there are Rusanons who can educate me on this.
No.509660
>>509655if i remember, China is also fielding Exoskeletons for mountaineer divisions.
No.509661
>>509647>>509647>>509642>>509644I am too retarded. Am I doing it right?
No.509662
>>509659mostly yes but a bit of no.
No.509663
>>509616I am not larping. Drone wars are boring and sad. Nagorno-Karabakh 2 is an example.
No.509664
>766559
>Russia has already developed exoskeletons for military purposes
So has the US, but its still useless sci fi bullshit like those stupid laser weapons
>Bio-engineering = engineering diseases, already done in labs for research purposes
Or you know, Anthrax, we've had that for a while, never used, just like nukes.
The Future is in Airpower, Drones, Rockets and the like.
No.509665
>>509661Alright I figured it out, this is my trip now. All the other posts are fake.
No.509666
>>509662So if I get this straight, Russians are a mix of Varangians/Eastern Slavs and Mongolians/Tatars, but Ukrainians are closer to the Polish?
No.509667
>Tripfagging
The real Lenin hat would never do that.
No.509668
>Lenin Cap forced to get a trip
😂😂😂
No.509669
Putinbros I don't feel so good…
>St. Petersburg (ND). Vladimir Putin, 2nd Mayor of St. Petersburg and Chairman of the Committee for External Relations of the city of six million, has made it clear to German business representatives that a military dictatorship along the lines of the Chilean model would be the desirable solution to Russia's current political problems. This was reported by WDR in the TV feature "Aufbruch nach Osten" (Monday, January 3, 1994, WEST 3 from 9:15 to 9:45 p.m.). >Putin answered questions from representatives of BASF, Dresdner Bank, Alcatel and others who met in the former GDR Consulate General in St. Petersburg. Putin distinguished between "necessary" and "criminal" violence. He said that political violence is criminal if it is aimed at eliminating market-economy conditions, and "necessary" if it promotes or protects private capital investments. He, Putin, expressly approved of possible preparations by Yeltsin and the military to bring about a Pinochet-style dictatorship in view of the difficult private economic path. Putin's remarks were received with friendly applause both by the German company representatives and by the deputy German consul general who was present.https://www.nd-aktuell.de/artikel/461493.pinochet-als-vorbild.html?sstr=putin No.509670
>>509547Is there any real reason to hate Nikita other than him insulting Stalin and dogmatists and maotists being unable to cope with dismantling personality cults?
No.509671
My question is what's the point of annexing Ukraine beyond just stopping NATO? Russia is isolated and China, their closest ally, is maintaining a neutral stance. Is Putin literally losing his mind? Why doesn't he follow China's leadership and just economically do better? He could also do his own little land revolution and redistribute land to Russians. China still has a great many peasants and he can do the same for Russia which will help in Russia develop further economically without the need of a pointless geographical expansion. Seriously fuck Putin, hes a servant of his capitalist oligarchy whereas China subjugated capital to the Party and the state.
No.509672
>>509666I think you need somebody living there for that. I know the history pretty well but I cant tell you the percentages. I think the truth is that its a mix of all. Still, if somebody is from the region pls help this man out
No.509673
>>509665>UGII.salpsUndiagnosed Galbladdercancer (stage) 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salp No.509674
>>509670no I rly like him. I mean he made errors but the golden age of the 60es was also under him
No.509675
>>509669the 90's were a wild time, didn't Luka say he admired Hitler too lmao
No.509676
>>509669I don't know why anyone on the left ever carried water for the man.
No.509678
I will support global Western hegemony until the antivax revolution rolls around.
No.509679
>>509675Pretty sure that one's bullshit
No.509680
>>509669Finally the liberal worm faggot is exposed for what he is.
No.509681
BLOODCASTECELEB WAR STREAM
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https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast No.509682
>>509679Parenti wrote about it in Blackshirts and Reds, but yeah I don't know the actual veracity of it
No.509683
Has /leftypol/'s stance on our dear comrade Putin-the-Revisionist changed since yesterday? Do you we still agree that he's actually right about Lenin and Stalin and the rest of the soviet commune?
No.509685
>>509669Vlagusto Putochet
No.509686
>>509659> Did Ukraine exist prior to the USSR?A sovereign country named "Ukraine" didn't exist until 1917 which saw an explosion of newly-formed states based on national aspirations suppressed during the tsarist times. There were some "proto-ukrainian" states (distinct Russian princedoms on the territory of modern Western Ukraine or cossack hosts during 16-17 centuries). Ukraine was seen as a distinct part of Russia with a lot of regional flavor.
> Are Ukrainians and Russians similar?Yes. Both are Eastern Slavs, both modern Ukrainian and modern Russian are rooted in old Russian language, both were historically under the influence of Orthodox Christianity.
Do you have any more specific questions?
No.509687
>that Biden conference
Jesus Christ, is imperialism truly done?
No.509688
>>509686thx from my side. I go to sleep for today
No.509689
>>509669This is true. And it's also the reason why libtards like Nemtsov supported him back in 1999/2000
No.509690
>>509683Yes he is an epic based comrade who will build the USSR 2
No.509691
>>509679He really did admire Hitler while criticizing Hitler's questionable racial policies
No.509692
>>509687NO QUESTIONS was the cherry on top. the futures lookin bright, bros
No.509693
>>509683>Has /leftypol/'s stanceno
No.509694
>all these retards don't know Putin was and still is playing 5-D chess to restore Lenin
trust the plan
No.509696
>>509669Disgusting but not surprising.
No.509697
>>509683The bourgeois-nationalist chauvinists won't change their minds.
No.509698
>>509694he's still in the mausoleum.
what you want to restore?
No.509699
>>509683Yes:
Putin over extends into Ukraine, NATO over extends into Ukraine and communist revolution happen at home
No.509701
Hey is Russia gay? Also check these numbers
No.509702
>>509695No more vodka xDDD
No.509704
>>509670I don't think he deserves the insane hate he gets from Stalinoids, he did some good shit in Cuba for instance, and the 50's and 60's were remembered as kind of a golden age for the USSR. That being said it can't be denied that he set the ball rolling for the revisionism and abandonment of the revolutionary cause that led to the USSR shitting itself in 1989. Not that I'm any admirer of Stalin anymore, but shit-talking him the moment he Cornboy got in power is maybe the dumbest shit I could think of. Gave the West free ammo and completely alienated the people who knew Stalin as the dude who completely curbstomped Nazism and who managed to protect the USSR up to that point.
Though to be fair to cornboy, a lot of the revisionist and counter-revolutionary aspects that later took over the USSR had their inception during the Stalin era, Khrushchev just didn't manage to switch course and instead just veered further into revisionism.
No.509705
>>509669He also asked Bill Clinton to join NATO in 2000.
No.509708
>>509705They might as well have dissolved NATO if they would accept Russia in it
No.509711
>>509669Literal fash shit lol
No.509713
>>509670His denunciation of Stalin was counterproductive and harmed the communist cause, and he made some errors like engaging in Great Power chauvinism, some market reforms, etc. However on the whole his government led the USSR through one of its greatest periods of growth, prosperity, and achievement, and his support was instrumental to the success of socialist and natlib movements around the world. He definitely doesn't deserve the hate from dogmatic Stalinists.
No.509715
>>509710"Nuclear is a meme"
The USA doesn't have the balls, because they know they know this will backfire on their relations with the EU
No.509717
>>509716"Real Lenin Pixie Fag" is not the real Lenin hat. I am.
No.509718
>>509669Boy, he surely changed his world view after seeing all the neoliberal shit happening in his country, lmao.
No.509719
>>509718Nah actually he didn't.
He was an anti-communist bourgeois-nationalist parasite, and is an anti-communist bourgeois-nationalist parasite now.
No.509721
Got some sleep during burger hours
Wake up to find thread full of coping and seething
lul
No.509722
>>509686>There were some "proto-ukrainian" states (distinct Russian princedoms on the territory of modern Western Ukraine or cossack hosts during 16-17 centuries). Ukraine was seen as a distinct part of Russia with a lot of regional flavorThis is basically what I wanted an answer for. I know that in the west of modern day Ukraine, it was largely under the Polish-Lithuanian dutchy and was cut off from the Tsardom for a time. All generic and linguistic indications basically deem it a nonfactor though.
No.509725
>>509710You forgot about the part where Biden said Americans will see higher gas prices and this is the price for Freedom
No.509726
The tripcode Leninhats are impostors.
No.509728
>>509719 (me)
Although we have to acknowledge he rolled back private ownership of important industries and much of the harm of the neoliberal policies was reduced. But I might be contradicting myself.
No.509729
do not listen to the false Lenin
No.509730
>>509726When the imposter is sus! 😳
No.509731
Does anyone have donbas polls?
No.509732
Mr. Reagan Ukrainistan is being invaded by the Soviets it's time to fund a proxy war using the azovahideen
No.509736
Recap of Biden press conference. No questions answered.
Biden speaks after the recognition of the republics of Donetsk and Lugansk and announces new sanctions against Russia:
>🔸 Sanctions against two Russian banks, financial elites, and their relatives
>🔸 Biden promises that "Nord Stream 2 will not move forward"
>🔸 the US promises more sanctions and military assistance if Russia takes further steps towards a "massive military strike"
>🔸 the US will continue to supply "defensive" weapons to Ukraine
NS-II is killed.
No.509737
My sixes say invasion next week
No.509741
>>509734Russia would surely react to them trying to do Afghanistan 2.0 on them? I think this is the war NATO is looking for.
No.509744
>>509736Forgot the part Where Biden Said there will be higher gas prices for Americans and we need to make sacrifices. $10 gas coming soon
No.509745
>>509740So, average Ukrainian?
No.509746
>>509675The USSR's dissolution was an ideological disaster for communists movements around the world.
>>509736 (me)
What a satanic get I got there
>OMINOUS SATAN GET. No.509747
>>509739The description says there are subtitles but there aren't, I assume they were deleted by youtube at some point
No.509748
>>509747He basically says that Hitler was a stronk leader who rebuilt the country
No.509749
>>509736By the powers of quads NS-2 is done.
Ukranian Freedom Fighters are inbound to sabotage the nordstream pipelines under the baltic sea.
No.509750
>>509742 (me)
Or maybe he did, I am a confused schizo anyway. GINI says something, my ultra comrades say something different. I never know what's correct, and what's not.
No.509751
russian markets rebounded after Biden speech lel
No.509752
>>509749azovhadeen will blow up the nordstream inshallah, heil hitler
No.509753
I missed the biden press conference, can somebody give me a summary?
No.509754
>>509748And takes inspiration from him on how to build a strong presidential institution. Afterwards backs away from what he said, but returns sometime later to repeat the same but in more weasel way.
No.509755
>>509753Biden cried about NSII, said they will sanction banks and more people and will continue funding Azov. Big nothing if you ask me
No.509756
>>509735Beria is the biggest piece of shit to ever come out of the USSR
Besides all the raping and shit, he was preparing to basically admit defeat to the West and cuck out of any confrontation, far worse than anything Khrushchev had done
No.509757
>>509756yes and so is his whole gang. The KGB were the good guys all along
No.509758
>>509755Seems that way. Thanks anon
No.509759
>>509749Wouldn't that cause severe environmental consequences?
No.509760
>>509675Total fake news from Yeltsinite Russia, reacting to this accusation Lukashenko commented that if he said something like this he would've been overthrown the next day, which makes a lot of sense since the victory over fascism is an even more integral part of Belarussian national identity than the Russian.
No.509761
>>509742 (me)
>>509750 (not me, but you)
This even looks more telling since the USSR fall. I hope my my dogmatism are abandoned with some economic knowledge finally, but who knows, I am schizo anyway.
No.509762
>>509756Yeah Beria was shit and got what he deserved. Molotov and Malenkov would have been better than Coruygha tho
No.509763
Sincere question, does NS2 actually matter that much?
No.509764
Ukraine = new Afghanistan! MIC got what it wanted by sacrificing Ukraine at the altar. Russia won't risk full NATO war, at least at this point in these conditions. NATO can now bleed Russia dry not looking good for are man vladseph Putlin.
No.509766
>>509760> he would've been overthrown the next dayHe wasn't overthrown in 1996, he wasn't overthrown in 2020. He made a specific remark of him not admiring Hitler's genocide.
No.509767
>>509762>Molotov and Malenkov would have been better than Coruygha thoAlso true
No.509769
>>509763No, the old pipeline was never fully utilized lol.
No.509770
>>509759Only if Russia doesn't stop pumping the gas at their side!
And besides, these are desperate folk striving for self determination. The US doesn't condone these acts of desperation but we are ready to supply our allies with freedom molecules hint hint.
No.509771
>>509763For Russia it does matter, because with the pipe Russia will be able to supply Germany directly, without having to deliver through eastern european countries as currently is.
No.509772
There's room for only one user of this flag and it's me.
No.509774
>>509763Well the winter is almost over. But I think one of the goal of NS2 was to prevent Ukraine from having the power to shut all pipeline gaz exports to Europe. So if they shut off NS1 there is good chance that Germany will have little choice but to backtrack and open NS2 or face severe shortages. So it's important because of the redundancy.
No.509775
>>509750Yeah it says Russia is as unequal as any other bourgeois dictatorship.
No.509776
>Get away for an hour
<5 different Leninhats sprouting out
How can one anon break so many people minds at the same time?
Its astonishing.
No.509777
>>509776Consistently dogshit takes have that effect.
No.509778
>Unique IPs: 19
impressive amount of autism all things considered
No.509779
>>509773They literally dug up corpses from his wife's garden.
>nooo le cia fake news brobanganda No.509780
>>509779Bring in the proofs
No.509781
>>509779It's actually Khrushchevite fake news, yeah.
If they lied about Stalin, they'll lie about anyone.
No.509782
>>509779Says the Yeltsinite renegade bourgeois press
No.509783
>>509778it's very concentrated, getting radioactive
No.509785
>>509784He's not going to make the EU's decision to support US for them.
No.509786
When the bourgeoisie's barking dogs attack Beria, Lenin and Stalin, they're attacking you, proletarian.
No.509787
Oh
I forgot for a moment who Leninhat is
No.509788
>>509787Vlasovite roaders and renegades tremble at his doctrine
No.509789
>>509788Don't forget t*tars!
No.509790
>>509775 (me)
Ah, but ofcourse, NATO controls practically all financial markets where they can commission all commodity and currency transactions, offsetting its GINI thanks to the exploitation of others, unlike Russia that can't achieve such thing. When should I learn the basic economics of imperialism?
Some day perhaps.
No.509791
>>509788And he's not even the schizo that outright denies the actual Soviet archive numbers of people killed during the Purge.
No.509792
>>509790Proletarians in both Russia and NATO are exploited by "their" country's capitalists.
No.509793
>>509785Cut it for a short period watch as the citizens beg for cheap Russian fossil fuels. Then watch out of necessity then run back to Russia.
No.509794
>>509782Yeltsinites love Stalin. Russian right-wingers parade around with his portrait all the time. Putin basically rehabilitated him, but only the dictator parts, none of the communism.
No.509795
>>509792 (me)
Yet, I can't explain how Russia reduced this GINI if they can't access NATO imperialism. I still lack something, it's impressive. Perhaps Putin did roll back his 90s stance where communism dimished? No, I need to double down my arguments.
No.509796
>>509793The bourgeoisie faction within EU pushing for Atlanticism are immune to this, and they sure as shit don't listen to the poors, or the industrialists.
No.509797
>>509795Maybe the working class won concessions after the scare in 1996 ever considered that you vlasovite mouthpiece?
No.509798
Funny watching the burger news keep referring to Russian 'oligarchs'
>>509778You have to reload the page
No.509799
>>509794Nice meme, Stalin is regularly condemned as a totalitarian Georgian thug in the Russian press, they build monuments to "victims of totalitarianism", spread the white guard version of history, blame the Bolsheviks for Katyn etc.
No.509800
>>509759when has that stopped anyone?
No.509801
>>509787it's me, the antivaxoid
No.509802
>Biden: "Defending freedom will have costs for us as well, and here at home. We need to be honest about that."
lel and there's nothing burgers can do about it
No.509803
>>509796They might when the economy collapses I say he go for it. Make them pay for being Americas bitch, let them feel the consequences of they're cuckery!
No.509804
>Russian sovereign debt essentially cut off from Western financing
Biden literally turning Russia into a Chinese province lol.
The more they push Putin away from Western capital the more Russian Porkies will have to embrace Chinese capital.
No.509805
>>509803You're forgetting they're the finance capitalists, and are the last stop - they profit from economic collapse.
No.509806
>>509802Biden the MLM (Multi-level marketer): "Buy muh freedom molecules, they make you freer"
No.509807
>>509778There are 59 unique IPs not 19.
No.509808
>>509802We need to exploit this, someone do a white house petition that "Americans Do Not Support Sacrificing for Ukraine" or something gay like that. Could galvanize opposition
No.509809
>>509797 (me)
Ah, so Putin is not so cretin then if he allowed those wins instead of repressing them with fascistic violence. I will double-double down more in the next post.
How dare you accuse me you francov/mussoyeltsin/dugintler/, if I am you.
>>509801And the anti-Hezbollah prozionist, was also paranoid that taliban never attacked the U.S. during the last 20 years. DON'T FORGET ME!
No.509812
>>509805It will catch up with them! the exponential financialization can't continue the "correction" will occur. They can profit but the physical economy aka the real will be done for.
No.509814
>>509811Did someone say hyperinflation?
No.509815
>>509811Suicide by sanction
No.509816
>>509808Dems don't need any help sinking themselves.
No.509817
>>509811This year is going to be amazing
No.509818
All this anti putin posting truly does glow soo hard man
No.509820
>>766799
Yeah, the problem was that once they took all the assets of the communist party and devalued the currency, nothing was rich anymore.
There is this curious anecdote from the gorby memoirs I finished reading today, that gorby was paid millions of dollars in rubles for the pizza hut adjust to see his money watered down into oblivion for the devaluation caused by the capitalists and their capital flight. He had to rely upon his friends living in their homes because he couldn't afford his own house rent. Upon the 00s Russia shifted all this shit, a lot of money started to go in, went up the curve, and Russia took measures to reduce the increased inequity in the wealth income.
No.509822
>>509817Still waiting for the new variant and the latest intifada to drop tho
No.509823
>>509809Lol behave, the sure tell-tale sign of a fascist is to imagine life is a game with powerless workers who can never win any concessions, that they're superior beings.
No.509825
>>509818Против Путина определённо только светящиеся негрилы!
Can you for a second imagine people having different opinion from yo… Ah, I'm on /leftypol/
No.509826
>>509811Good. Hoping it happens.
No.509827
>>509825Despite the fedjacketing leftypol is actually a great place in terms of diversity of views… That is compared to the rest of internet
No.509829
>>509827for a bit I was fearing idpol consumed it but nah its still pretty neat
No.509830
>>509823 (me)
Still trying to figure out where the fuck the self-realized proletariat have been for a few decades, but once they find me, they'll be glad to have had my support all these years.
No.509832
>>509823 (me)
Although I can never imagine concentrations camp being literally slavery farms where workers can't achieve any concessions, like… actually happened in Germany before and during WWII. Mmmm.. where am I being wrong again? ah, yes, that Putin didn't change his posture because it was only the workers who earned this. Which is not contradictory at all because I always talk wonderfully about the Russian society, how not fascistic brainwashed nationalistic they are, incapable of doing but subserve the Russian ollygarchy and so on.
I am sorry if I look schizoid, I am.
No.509834
>>509818<Putin>I want a ruthless bourgeois dictatorship like the one in Chile, communism has failed and should be kept out of power, organized labor should be crushed, the Bolsheviks were traitors<Leftypol>This is kinda fash/reactionary<You>Wtf this glowsHere's your (you)
No.509835
>>509832Nah there's plenty of good Russian communists who are struggling.
No.509838
>>509836the more the merrier!
No.509839
Hasanabi talking about Russia
Come watch
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast No.509840
>>509836Nah, they won't do it. Democrats are smarter in this regard, in prolonging U.S. imperialism. Jesus, I wish the ted cruz bill passed. That shit would be hillarious.
No.509841
>>509839Why does anyone take this fool seriously again
No.509842
>>509840quick get Trump back in.
No.509843
>>509841le angry hot champagne socialist
No.509845
>>509841some of his viewers are just people who send him clothes to wear lmao
No.509846
>>509844KEK WHAT A FUCKING COPE
No.509847
>>509844russian embassy should respond with a photo of washington in 16th century
No.509849
>>509844make the Ukrainian national space program next
No.509850
>>509819Honestly, I kinda find voot blooo boomers to be more annoying than MAGA boomers
No.509854
>>509852This increases my Train Enjoyment.
No.509855
>>509852train gang
>>509853real or fake??? lmao
No.509857
>>509853Do a chinese building at the time for maximun malding of the Americans
No.509858
>>509853Shoulda stayed that way!
No.509860
The Ukrainian army had 18 plans to invade Russia, but when the Russian army finally entered the DPR, they settled right in the trenches.
No.509861
>>509811Was this Putin's grand plan all along?
No.509862
>>509853Should have an image of a thriving Indigenous community, followed by an image of said community being massacred by proto-burgers in the 17th century.
No.509863
>>509860> The Ukrainian army had 18 plans to invade RussiaNot my poor little Russia.
No.509864
>EU will freeze assets of all Duma members
24 hours in and the sanctions game is not disappointing.
Let's see if tomorrow we'll get fireworks or a sizzle.
No.509865
>>509844I don't even understand what the implication here is supposed to be.
No.509868
>>509844Yeah I think those diplomats have an acute case of Havana syndrome
No.509869
>>509864And yes I'm cheering on this because it's fucking time to ACCELERATE.
No.509870
>>509860I gotta admit, making hypothetical military plans isn't a big deal.
No.509871
>>509868Havana syndrome Aka Havana couple lines of coke
No.509872
>>509869are you Italian Sandinista-anon? do Italians even give a shit about NATO still
No.509874
>>509866Time for Ukrainian Lenin, peace, land and bread uyghur
No.509875
>>509844Any country that tweets memes deserves a nuclear holocaust
No.509876
Multipolar bros, do you think SWIFT could still be taken from Russia when they push back the front lines?
No.509877
>>509872As of now we are 95% NATO cucked, BUT in the last few days even my normie centrist parents are getting pissed off at Biden.
Everyone here is terrified about gas, most of all for the impact on industries.
No.509878
>>509873I figured there was some racist implication there but Moscow literally didn't exist in those dates, it's like picking some random forest in Germany and saying "see? No buildings. Germans are savages"
No.509880
>>509844They're literally doing meme warfare. I can't believe this is the times we're living in where we're doing inter/pol/ /bants/ memes.
No.509882
China has sanctioned Rayethon and Lockheed Martin over arms sales to Taiwan.
No.509883
Any Russian conscripts here? What's the feel
No.509885
>>509882Not sure it does much but I appreciate it
No.509887
Chen is tweeting in defense of Russia, does this show Chinese support?
No.509888
>>509884Damn shame Mosely stans latched onto that show.
No.509889
>>509882How would that work?
No.509890
>>509844holy Befelgorian number of unholy tweets.
No.509891
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz instructed to stop the certification of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. Well. Welcome to a new world where Europeans will soon pay 2,000 euros for a thousand cubic meters of gas
No.509892
>>509885nice gesture of help from China if true. "Do more and well do more too"
No.509893
>>509888Typical libtards made Mosley look cool. Dude was a gay little dweeb irl
No.509894
>>509887unironically. I mean he glows but he glows red
No.509895
Local residents from Ukraine complain that militants from the Right Sector are visiting them in large numbers. The locals are scared and afraid of these criminals.
Many people remember how these killers mocked and killed the local residents of Donbass.
No.509896
>>509876No they'll cancel NS2 - FOR REAL THIS TIME. Although NS2 will still physically be there so it's the same as just saying you're going to delay it, but you sound angrier when you cancel it rather than delay.
No.509897
>>509884>!leNInwtf are you a wizard?
No.509899
Putin: We admit DPR and LPR.
Sholtz: We disagree. NS-2 will be frozen.
Putin: We admit GDR.
Sholtz:
No.509901
>>509898The bourgeoisie know there's no war coming lol.
No.509902
>>509896agreed. i think part of all this excitement is just about elections. Dems look to get hammered in the midterms
No.509903
>>509902and they still do, all that happened was Russia getting a little land
No.509904
The Kremlin did not watch Biden's speech on Ukraine, the president is having a working meeting, Peskov told RIA Novosti.
No.509908
>>509840What was the Cruz bill?
No.509909
>>509907By the way, now we really need help in protecting Venezuela, as the weakest link among the oil-producing countries, but with the largest proven reserves in the world. The Russian military base in Venezuela will no longer seem like such a fantasy. They, of course, would very much like to strangle Russia to the blue with an oil and gas noose until they ask for mercy. But there is nowhere to take oil from. So far, this problem is unsolvable. But they will certainly try to solve it. So far, they cannot even agree on easing sanctions against Iran. Europe would already be happy - but Israel and the United States do not give it. But they will still wait, and China will also get Iranian oil. Sanctions, when they are laid out three boxes a week, cease to frighten. Or be executed.
No.509912
Putin is absolutely on the money when he was talking about Lenin. Lenin was great, but he really dropped the ball legitimizing Ukraine, probably as a favor to the Germans who wanted him to Balkanize Russia. Thankfully Stalin rectified his mistakes. But the point is the radlibs soyfacing over Putin’s speech as if it’s “proof” he’s anti-socialist neither listened to the speech nor studied history t
No.509914
>>509911😎✌️
Smartly buying the dip. I was thinking on getting in on the action yesterday.🤣
No.509915
>>509834Leftypoler detected
Ugly pedobear flag: check
No.509916
>>509908He wanted to sanction the "company" making the Nordstream 2 pipeline. Most of the companies are EU.
No.509917
>>509914YASSS KWEEEN r/wallstreetbets REPRESENT
No.509919
>>509916lmao republicans truly are retarded
No.509920
>>509917There's literally nothing wrong with making money but go off. And remain poor I guess.
You do know that communism is not a poverty cult, right? LMAO.
No.509922
>>509901>>509900>>509898>>509914I think it's Russian porkies getting rid of cash that might become unusable. Just like Venezuela's stock market rose 50% during the stonks fall.
No.509924
>>509920He’s probably a well off liberal who’s “socialism” is purely performative
No.509929
>[…]If, despite all this, such generally sober and critical politicians as Lenin and Trotsky and their friends, who have nothing but an ironical shrug for every sort of utopian phrase such as disarmament, league of nations, etc., have in this case made a hollow phrase of exactly the same kind into their special hobby, this arose, it seems to us, as a result of some kind of policy made to order for the occasion. Lenin and his comrades clearly calculated that there was no surer method of binding the many foreign peoples within the Russian Empire to the cause of the revolution, to the cause of the socialist proletariat, than that of offering them, in the name of the revolution and of socialism, the most extreme and most unlimited freedom to determine their own fate. This was analogous to the policy of the Bolsheviks towards the Russian peasants, whose land-hunger was satisfied by the slogan of direct seizure of the noble estates and who were supposed to be bound thereby to the banner of the revolution and the proletarian government. In both cases, unfortunately, the calculation was entirely wrong.
>While Lenin and his comrades clearly expected that, as champions of national freedom even to the extent of “separation,” they would turn Finland, the Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, the Baltic countries, the Caucasus, etc., into so many faithful allies of the Russian Revolution, we have instead witnessed the opposite spectacle. One after another, these “nations” used the freshly granted freedom to ally themselves with German imperialism against the Russian Revolution as its mortal enemy, and, under German protection, to carry the banner of counter-revolution into Russia itself. The little game with the Ukraine at Brest, which caused a decisive turn of affairs in those negotiations and brought about the entire inner and outer political situation at present prevailing for the Bolsheviks, is a perfect case in point. The conduct of Finland, Poland, Lithuania, the Baltic lands, the peoples of the Caucasus, shows most convincingly that we are not dealing here with an exceptional case, but with a typical phenomenon.[…]https://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1918/russian-revolution/ch03.htm No.509932
On a scale of 1-10 how hard will the sanctions hurt Russia? Inb4 not much which is childish and stupid.
No.509933
>>509893That one scene with the IDLES song was good though.
No.509934
>>509912>>509929Kremlinbots are here
No.509935
>>509921404 link but he basically already said this
>"We have recognized all their fundamental documents — including their constitutions, which describe their borders as those of the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts [regions] when they were part of Ukraine,” Putin said No.509937
>>509932None because the Russian people are strong, resilient, and frugal, plus China will help offset any potential issues. Now begone doomer
No.509938
>>509768IRI doesn't poll people in the republics
Also got anything newer than 2017?
No.509939
>>509934Cope radlib, Putin is entirely correct
No.509941
On a scale of 1-10 how hard will the sanctions hurt Russia?
No.509942
>>509934Imperialism isnt "muh invading countries". Imperialism is, as was described by Lenin in "Imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism", an economic system that appears as capitalism developes into monopoly capitalism and as capital becomes increasingly centralized into fewer and fewer hands. Explained simply, imperialism is the capitalist relation of extraction of surplus value (profits) from the workers by the capitalist class, but between countries. Why is the global south so impoverished while the US and EU are rich? Because the US and EU are extracting surplus value from the countries of the global south. Their natural resources are transformed into commodities by the workers of the global south, but the profits derived from that are stolen by the US and EU capitalist class. This is imperialism. Now why do we consider the multiple acts of US military aggression as imperialism? Not because the US simply invading someone for no reason would be imperialism, but because the reason the US does what it does is to expand and protect its imperialist system. Why was Yugoslavia targeted? Because US corporations wanted to get ahold of its natural resources to extract more profits, as demanded by capitalism. This is the same with any other US intervention.
However, Russias actions are not fueled by imperialism, since Russia, despite being a capitalist country, has not reached a sufficient monopoly capitalism as to become imperialist. Thus, the only reason Russia would invade Ukraine, would be to stop US imperialism, which wants to colonize Russia to extract its profits for US corporations. Even if Russia randomly decided to invade idk Poland for no reason, that wouldnt be imperialism, it would be expansionism at most.
No.509943
>>509935realistically what matters are the troops on the ground.
No.509945
>>509944We have to begin with as precise and full a definition of imperialism as possible. Imperialism is a specific historical stage of capitalism. Its specific character is threefold: imperialism is monopoly capitalism; parasitic, or decaying capitalism; moribund capitalism. The supplanting of free competition by monopoly is the fundamental economic feature, the quintessence of imperialism.
Monopoly manifests itself in five principal forms:
(1) cartels, syndicates and trusts—the concentration of production has reached a degree which gives rise to these monopolistic associations of capitalists;
(2) the monopolistic position of the big banks—three, four or five giant banks manipulate the whole economic life of America, France, Germany;
(3) seizure of the sources of raw material by the trusts and the financial oligarchy (finance capital is monopoly industrial capital merged with bank capital);
(4) the (economic) partition of the world by the international cartels has begun. There are already over one hundred such international cartels, which command the entire world market and divide it “amicably” among themselves—until war redivides it. The export of capital, as distinct from the export of commodities under non-monopoly capitalism, is a highly characteristic phenomenon and is closely linked with the economic and territorial-political partition of the world;
(5) the territorial partition of the world (colonies) is completed.
No.509946
>>509943Well it would be pretty funny if he recognized the whole thing but occupied only the separatist territory. But yeah it's a happooning
No.509947
>>509945>Still no mention of the export of capital.You know you can't just pick whatever you like from Imperialism the highest stage of imperialism and discard whatever you don't like, right?
No.509949
>>509947 me
>Imperialism the highest stage of imperialismof capitalism*
No.509950
>>509934Shut the fuck up ginjeet you better pray for putin to put you out of your misery fast when he's steamrolling through europe
No.509951
>>509946I mean that would keep Ukraine divided so it still cant join NATO (technically but I think its the carrot for them to play ball anyway)
No.509952
Troll here to preserve our sacred 222222
/b/lood and soil
No.509953
>>509921>ITS SOOO IMPORTANT THAT I HAVE TO PUT A TRANSHUMANISTJANNY TRIPCODE ON TO MAKE THIS POSTreddit moment
No.509955
>>767053
Shut the fuck up baizuo
No.509957
>>509954You're a radlib, everything you don't like isn't fascism. shame Hitler didn't exterminate your family then you would have a better idea of the meaning of fadcism
No.509960
>>509949>Imperialism and the Split in Socialismhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/oct/x01.htmmaybe that isn't as important as you think, you haven't given an argument to why it matters
No.509962
>>509921nooooo NOTHINGS HAPPENING!!! CALLED IT ITS A NOTHINGBURGER
No.509963
>>509959You're the fascist if you support the holocaust. Go away fascist
No.509964
>>509961Not being imperialist doesn't mean good it just means not imperialist. Words have meanings.
No.509965
>>509961the Soviet union was imperialist in Afghanistan and yet that was the best outcome for the country.
No.509966
>>509947Yes you can. The USA is imperialist because they're bad, Russia isn't imperialist because they're good. That's how we do things around here.
No.509968
Everyone is a fascist except me
No.509970
>>509967No, you started it. You're literally HITLER
No.509971
>>509968Mao was a fascist because he was a traditionalist
No.509973
>>509945>precise and full definition>quotes from a definition in Imperialism (remember, "a popular outline") that Lenin explicitly says is inadequate precisely because it excludes historical contextHmmmmm
No.509974
>>509773Truly deranged level of stalinist apologetics, even from you, leninhat-sama
No.509975
>>509938>IRI doesn't poll people in the republics Though if you look at IRI polls from before the republics were established - you will see Eastern and southern Ukraine both bias towards Russia reunificiation while the west and north bias towards NATO. This is what I was mainly referring to, im unsure of recent polls other than ones that Ivan Katchanovski cites from
No.509976
>>509973Ur just a fascist apologist
No.509979
>>509972>That's the strongest peace force. We could use that on our southern border. That's the strongest peace force I've ever seen. There were more army tanks than I've ever seen. They're going to keep peace, all right.I had to double check if this website was a parody but no I just lost my adaption to his insane tweets since his ban.
No.509981
>>509977I'm a true understander of Marx, while you are a reactionary. We are not the same.
No.509982
>>509981Wannabe red porky. Oink all you want, when we destroy the rich you'll be on their side of the firing line.
No.509983
>"Ukraine does not and will never recognize [the independent republics]."
-UA foreign minister. Rip NATO hopes
Also the Kremlin/White House meeting has been cancelled
No.509984
>>509972It's so funny to read him, will you bring him back in 2024, burgers?
No.509985
>>509983lmao seriously why are they so retarded, just accept Crimea and Donbass are gone and become a full American paypig already if that's what they want so bad
No.509986
>>509973its not from that
>>509960This one is
>(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this "finance capital", of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves, and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed. Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed."and you haven't provided a counter argument or given any historical context. Are all five features necessary? Is only one sufficient? How are the parts related? Are any dependent on others? What is the primary contradiction?
No.509988
>>509984>"I went in yesterday, and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius,'" he said. "Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful."ELITE quotes. It's like he's playing up Russiagate
No.509989
This is still a Nothingburger. The Dengist/Duginist Happooners will be BTFO when Putin backs down due to his loss of Nordstream II and his Oligarch buddies bank accounts, 😂.
No.509990
>>509989They've already killed nordstream 2. They've run out of sticks. He has no incentive to stop at Donbass, or Kiev.
No.509993
AHHHHHHHHH IT'S HAPPENINGGGGGGGG MOOOOOOOM GET THE CAMERA
No.509994
>>509991Yeah, still overblown. They're formally annexing the territories they split in 2014. The real question if they continue to push to the official borders of two regions.
No.509995
>>509990If I am wrong (less then 1% chance) and Putin invades Ukraine, the SWIFT sanctions will wipeout the dilapidated Russian economy and usher in the overthrow of the Vlasovite Fascist Bourgeois Imperialist Putin regime, LOL.
No.509996
>>509992>Fighting over feuds between people that died when your parents were born<Claiming you aren’t a confused theistWhat is tankoid-ism beyond religion for a Faux Secular Age?
No.509997
>>509996Marxism-Leninism is a science and as scientists we search for the truth.
No.509999
>>509998What American media does to a mf
No.510000
I never really liked Ukraine. There was just something about them that always annoyed me. I can't put my finger on it.
No.510001
>>509997If it’s a science why do you rant like a Muslim/Christian that must slaughter the infidels?
If it’s a “science” why hasn’t your application of it evolved past 1917?
If it’s a “science” why do you engage in religious veneration of historical figures to the point of threatening murder against socialists that don’t venerate them as well?
You are a theist that lacks self-awareness, like Christians claiming they don’t believe magic is real despite every sacrament being a magic ritual
No.510002
Russia has 100m more people than Ukraine. It's over for Ukraine. Haha.
No.510003
>>509998Can anyone make a serious argument that he is any worse then Putin, from the perspective of Marxist-Leninist-Maoists (both of them are Capitalists, Imperialists, and Crypto-Fascists)?
No.510004
>>509972This reads like an onion article
No.510005
>>510003One is a corruption enabler, the other one is the opposite. They might be both porkies but I can assure you that with Navalny will be better for the average Russian
No.510006
>>510001>If it’s a science why do you rant like a Muslim/Christian that must slaughter the infidels?Terror against the bourgeoisie is necessary and good. We have to break them to win.
>If it’s a “science” why hasn’t your application of it evolved past 1917?Guess no ML ever wrote anything after that lol or there's never been any more revolutions, eh cunt boy.
>If it’s a “science” why do you engage in religious veneration of historical figures to the point of threatening murder against socialists that don’t venerate them as well?Anti-Stalinist/Leninists are always pro-fascist, so it's really just mopping up the dregs.
No.510007
>>510000before 2014 they were basically a libertarian state: everything could be bought
there were very few nationalist, it's not Poland or Hungary, but the war changed that
No.510008
>>510005Navalny simply would not have a police state that is currently crushing any serious leftist movements in Russia
No.510009
>>510005Your probably right that Navalny is a “lesser evil”, due to being significantly less Fascist then the Vlasovite Putin. Honestly, I have always been perplexed by how butthurt the Dengist/Duginist crowd is by him, LOL.
No.510010
>>510003One will allow Russia to be a cumdump to the west, the other will create a multipolar world where America can't do whatever it wants.
No.510011
>>510006Yet you include the majority of this board, anarchists, and most leftists that aren’t bizarre dogmatic pseudo-crusaders as “bourgeoisie”
Just because you thoroughly believe your own delusions doesn’t make them something other than delusions, the Crusaders in the Middle Ages thoroughly believed that Muslims worshipped “the Devil” even though they were both Abrahamists, you believe other communists are “bourgeoisie” or “fascist” if they remotely deviate from your Not!Faith
> Guess no ML ever wrote anything after that lol or there's never been any more revolutions, eh cunt boy.As far as I can tell you’ve never read anything written past 1917, nor anything written by
non-prophets anyone other than the five guys on the head flag
Ever read Ted Reese? Ever heard of him?
>Anti-Stalinist/Leninists non-Christians/Pagans are always pro-fascist Satanists, so it's really just mopping up the dregs.You make this too easy
No.510012
>>510011>Ever read Ted Reese? Ever heard of him? Yes, he's a hack.
No.510013
REMINDER
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No.510015
>>510014Why the immediate pushback against Navalny hate? Our resident glowies must be scared something fierce, wanting to shut down anti-Navalnly sentiment like this.
No.510016
>>510012Alright, why is he a hack?
No.510018
>>510003He isn't worse than Putin, slightly less corrupt semi-liberal capitalist state with some freedums is better than Putin. He just isn't good even for socdems
No.510019
>>510014isnt that the guy who said russia should get rid of muslims?
No.510021
>>510017that's not what he said
No.510022
>>510011lenin hat is hopeless
you gotta remember that
No.510024
>>510022I'm far more educated in Marxism than 99% here.
No.510025
>>510024thats pretty easy
No.510026
>>510024that's not a big achievement, tbh
No.510027
>>510024Funny how you had time to respond to him but had no response when I asked how and why Ted Reese is a “hack”
Is it because he isn’t one of the prophets on the five heads?
No.510028
>>510024which is to say you've read anything at all
No.510029
So Putler traded a Pipeline and more sanctions for two little shithole regions that Russia defacto controlled anyway. Putin is an idiot.
No.510030
>>510029Trust the plan, USSR II by 2050
No.510031
>>510027No interest in debating you further.
No.510032
>>510009For what its worth, Navalny seems explicitly racist towards Muslims (Chechnyans), not sure if that's enough for someone to give him a "fascism score," or whatever the people who use the word 'fascist' to describe every capitalist want to think.
No.510033
>>510029We all know they're gonna walk back on ns2 anyways.
No.510034
>>510029This. So far I’d say that Biden is BTFO Putin geopolitically despite the intense Cope of Dengists and Duginists, 🤣.
No.510035
>>510029He put his hand on America and America allowed it
And the whole world saw it.
That's worth more than two little regions.
No.510037
>>510032Chechens are retards and need to be their own country
No.510039
>>510029The fact that the trade seems so bad makes me seriously consider the posibility that Putin will just fully invade the Ukraine and install a friendlier government. Where the glowies right in the end?
No.510040
>>510029NATO btfo though long-term
No.510041
>>510037They have too much oil to cut them loose
No.510042
>>510038yeah, dude
anti-vaxx shit is totally proletarian
let those fucking proles die in droves
No.510044
>>510042wait, Leninhat is an anti-vaxxer? for real?
Damn, I thought I had found an actually decent Leftypolak, the search continues I guess.
No.510047
>>510010Why should real Communists care about Bourgeois “Multipolarity” in which the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World are sliced up between multiple Imperialist countries?
>>510032I think he supports Self-Determination for the Oppressed nations of the North Caucasus, which is a positive in my opinion.
No.510050
>>510046by ukraine do you mean letting ukraine join nato?
No.510051
>>510046Alexei Navalny
Vladolf Putler needs to fall and Navalny is the only man that can make it happen and save us from 21st Century National-Bolshevism
No.510053
>>510047Critical support for universal hegemonic imperialism
It is clear why imperialism is moribund capitalism, capitalism in transition to socialism: monopoly, which grows out of capitalism, is already dying capitalism, the beginning of its transition to socialism. The tremendous socialisation of labour by imperialism (what its apologists-the bourgeois economists-call “interlocking”) produces the same result!
The bigger the monopoly the bigger the productive forces!
No.510055
>>510051He's just Yeltsin 3.0
(Putin is Yeltsin 2.0 with edgier and more militaristic aesthetics)
No.510057
Reminder that Western style Liberalism for Russia is a massive general improvement over Retarded Stalinism and Kleptocracy and should have been done in 1917.
No.510059
Is Putin just trying to score some concessions in exchange for "peace"?
I don't think he's playing "4D chess" necessarily but he needs to at least have a goal in mind, even if it's one that failed. I don't understand what he was hoping to gain to begin with
No.510061
>>510046Does it fucking matter at all
>>510047Because then Israel can't annex Lebanon and Saudi can't genocide the Yemenis? Oh but they're all capitalists so it doesn't matter, lmao
No.510062
>>510059He's getting cucked by Biden. He's coping and running around like a headless chicken
No.510063
im suprised by these responses. While putin is bad at least with putin there will at least be some apperance that the oligarchs have to follow putin or whatever etc etc
with Alexei Navalny the oligarchs are gonna use that as an excuse to fully feast on the russian republic. like you believe putin is a puppet of the oligarchs, at least with putins power structure he can at least kinda say no or influence the oligarchs to do kinda what he wants.
with navelny you are going to have a liberal idiot who liberalizes the political system, while keeping those oligarchs intact. And those oligarchs are gonna use their economic power to feat on russia way more than they do right now. ANd navelny cant do shit and hell will encourage it since one his neolib idelogy and two his political liberalization is going to take away the only possible counter against porkies
like the only way i can see people support navelny is accelerationism but thats it
No.510064
>>510063Under NAvalny Russia will get cucked by the West and open up to Western capital and investment which will lead to the Oligarchs getting cuked by George Soros and the Illuminati which is a general improvement over the Kleptocratic shithole it is now
No.510065
>>510059It's about NATO and a whole bunch of 'take us seriously!' NATO now will never ever put bases in Ukraine, but I'm not sure if it was worth it.
No.510067
>>510046COME ON MAN, there should be that third option. if you root for Russia do you think it's based if some Ukrainian grocery worker gets obliterated by an MLRS attack? it's not a sports game.
No.510068
>>510064>it will stop being kleptocratic when Russian oligarchs are replaceddoubt.jpg
No.510069
>>510042Most unvaccinated are proletarians like me kid.
No.510072
>>510064which leads to russia getting taken over and conquored by western capital and investment
:/
and then the international porkies come in and feast on russia which is harder to get rid off and just like other countries that are taken over by international capital
they still remain kleptocratic shitholes
No.510073
>>510069Most illiterates and starving people too
How is this an argument you fucking moron?
No.510074
>>510070Actual glow post.
No.510076
So queen elizabeth actually died… never thought i'd see the day.
No.510077
>>510076the get killed her
No.510078
>>510076>queen elizabeth actually diedS
SHES ALIVE FOOL
No.510079
>>510076It's apparently some fuckup by australian news.
No.510080
>>510077dubs of truth
>>510078They will probably announce it a few days.
No.510082
>>510079They killed the reporter who leaked it early
No.510083
>>510078>>510079its trending on twitter rn
No.510084
>>510073I'm unvaccinated by choice :)
No.510086
>>510084Well, yea, you’re a westoid
No.510087
>>510084I am a virgin by choice.
No.510089
>>510065Are you at the Russian meetings? No? Stay in your speculation because that's all it is, speculation. For example whether Putin would invade was speculation till it wasn't. Chances are Putin is just an idiot I'm service to retarded capitalists who tell him that they need to expand.
No.510092
>>510085I will wait for Snopes to deboonk
No.510096
>>510093Putin is anticommunist but is this just an ad?
No.510098
>>510095why is that oddly satisfying?
No.510101
>>510097He's not wrong though?
No.510102
>>510101Kprf is cringe tho
No.510103
>>509995Dawww did even considering the possibility that you're wrong hurt your fragile NPD ego
No.510107
Gee, war sure is boring.
No.510108
*cock sucking noises*
No.510109
>>510029Yes, how idiot, better steamroll those proles for the great money god and submit their lives into the will of my.. ronk.. ronk.. precious …rooooonk… pocket, how idiot.
No.510110
>>510096Do you know who Kolchak is?
No.510111
>>510046I think it's valuable to resist the need to find a "good guy," because that clouds judgment, but if you're in the U.S./NATO you should root for your own side to lose, as the basic issue here is NATO aggression and lies, but Putin is hardly a progressive figure – his bullshit pretty much traces back to the horrors of Western exploitation in the 90s. U.S. imperialism is the primary contradiction so can't do much about Putin for now.
No.510113
>>510110Leader of the whites? But what do the words say? Could some tsarist have bought this billboard or did Putler put it up himself?
No.510114
>>510047
>I think he supports Self-Determination for the Oppressed nations of the North Caucasus, which is a positive in my opinion.King schizo as always in the wrong side of history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVNJiO10SWwAlexy Navalny, Muslims are meant to be killed like pests, like cockroaches.
>caucasusIn where there are also muslims.
No.510115
>>510113It says "Happy Red Army Day"!
No.510116
>>510113"Happy Defender of the Fatherland Day".
No.510117
>>510115Kek that would be such a self own
>>510116Also a self own lol
No.510119
>"Now that we see that the invasion is starting and that Russia has made clear its total rejection of diplomacy, there is no point in going ahead with that meeting at this time," Blinken told a joint news conference with his Ukrainian counterpart Dmitri Kuleba. .
>The Secretary of State pointed out that he has "consulted with allies and partners" and they agree with his decision. "Today I have sent a letter to [Russian] Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov informing him of this," he added.
>An explosion occurs on the territory of a television center in Donetsk
>Maduro affirms that the US and NATO intend to finish off Russia by military means
>"We have been attentive to the events in Russia in the Ukraine, observing, not just now, observing the evolution of the process where the North American empire and NATO intend by military means to end Russia, stop Russia and end this multipolar world that already is a reality"
No.510120
>>510117Defender of the Fatherland Day is just Soviet Army and Navy Day renamed, they still use the alleged date of Red Army's creation. Modern White-worshippers in Russia tried to tie it to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_March but they didn't succeed very much.
No.510124
>>510123They also worship Stalin and see him as the greatest leader, it was ebil Lenin playing his anti-Russian tricks and Stalin restoring Russian glory.
No.510126
>>510106>Texan boomer immigrant in a telnyashkastranger things have happened
No.510127
>>510106The stars at night,
are big and bright
*bang bang bang bang*
DEEP IN THE HEART OF DONBASS
No.510128
>>510124Nah they don't worship him. Did you not see Putin kicking the boot into Stalin as well and blaming him for the liberation of places like Lviv from the Polish bourgeoisie and their incorporation to the Ukrainian SSR? They claim the glory of 1945 all for themselves to cover their fascism. Lies about Stalin and "totalitarianism" are taught in Russia. In the USSR, there were only ever four Victory Day parades, in 1945, 1965, 1985 and 1990. Notice how Stalin had only one, even Brezhnev to his credit had only one, but old Gorbachev had two. The Bolsheviks preferred the real celebration of October Revolution Day and May Day. The separation of Stalin from Lenin is a completely wrong way that both revisionists/Trotskyites and reactionaries love for similar reasons. Stalin was a pure Bolshevik.
No.510129
>>510128I didnt expect less lol
No.510130
>>510128Don't obsess too hard about ideological purity and your idols being profaned. It's not healthy. Idealism never is.
No.510132
>>510130The bourgeoisie have smeared Stalin more than anyone else in human history, if I got angry every time I see anticommunist aimed at Stalin I'd have had a heart attack by now. I just find the idea that the Russian Vlasovite bourgeoisie like him to be stupid and worthy of Leninist scorn.
No.510133
>>510132They can also be stupid and worship different Stalin than you
No.510134
>>510123 (me)
>>510097 (me)
I-I … IM G-G-OOONA
SLAAAANDER(gifrel)
Meanwhile in my fatherland, with my taxes, with my government publishing this instead some random orgs (picrel).
God, I have the need to slander Russia.
No.510135
>>510134Yes, but see we already all know Britain is a cretinous bourgeois fascist shithole.
No.510136
>>510132It's actually more pathetic than scornful - they cannot defeat the popularity of a 70 year old corpse, so they try to co-opt it, instead. An obvious sign of having nothing of your own to brag about.
No.510137
More news:
>Defenders of the DPR destroyed the point of ammunition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
>Video of the return fire of the DPR NM fighters on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.>Anti-tank guided missiles destroyed a truck carrying ammunition, with which the Ukrainian military fired at the peaceful quarters of Donetsk. As well as a dugout with an equipped firing point.>As a result of the return fire of the Donbas defenders, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have dead and wounded.https://vk.com/wall-85596321_115081 No.510138
>>510102>>510102Then go to Russia and build a better communist party I'll wait
No.510139
>>510135Why not cheer for it to get nuked, then?
No.510140
>>510133There is no different Stalin, there is the Bolshevik Georgian revolutionary, People's Commissar, General Secretary, Marshal of the Soviet Union, Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin.
No.510141
>>510138We already have a lot of wonderful unique communist parties, please no!
No.510142
>>510140>there is the Bolshevik Georgian revolutionary, People's Commissar, General Secretary, Marshal of the Soviet Union, Joseph Vissarionovich Stalinsoyak_with_hands_in_the_air.jpg
No.510143
>>510135 (me)
and I can't do shit about it, so I prefer to shit on Russians in 18.0 threads religiously. Even the possitive aspects are just garbage, so no one gets confused I am a truly revolutionary man!
No.510144
>>510139I'd happily have every bourgeois, royal and clergy parasite in this country flayed alive and then incinerated in a nuclear detonation, but personally speaking I'd rather not be nuked, nor do I want other proletarians to be.
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