HAPPENING EDITION
SIZZLE GANG
TO WATCH FOR NEWS:
https://liveuamap.com/Live updates from Texan commie boomer in Donbass:
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTexacFor Russiabros, analysis from Boris Rozhin:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ (has a telegram, lots of cool stuff there too)
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"Modern Ukraine was completely created by Russia," Putin says in speech to the nation“
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495832687227068422Putin: "We are ready to show you what true de-Communization means to Ukraine."“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495833069676335104“PUTIN SAYS UKRAINE'S ADMISSION TO NATO IS A DIRECT THREAT TO RUSSIA'S SECURITY || NATO TRAINING CENTRES ESTABLISHED IN UKRAINE AMOUNT TO NATO MILITARY BASES“
https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1495840775082737664Putin says Ukraine is a "U.S. colony" with a "puppet regime"
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495840971208429568“Russia claims Ukraine invaded Russia and says 5 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and two APCs destroyed near Rostov.
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1495745864320831492Putin, in televised address on Ukraine crisis, talks about a "nationalistic virus" says 1991 collapse of Soviet Union saw Russia robbed
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1495834881028411393“Putin: "Why did we have to transfer the rights to the territories that had been part of the Russian Empire?"“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495832267687669763PUTIN SPEECH WAS PRERECORDED:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1495775697121517570Russia & Syria officially recognize LNR and DPR
https://mobile.twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1495845600834822147Syria recognizing LNR/DPR
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495847706555781123Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua likely to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk republics shortly
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495850619487371265Putin Calls For Ukraine To Break Apart
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-president-putin-ukraine-break-apart_n_6213d491e4b0ef74d724b3a0"President Biden will soon issue an Executive Order that will prohibit new investment, trade, and financing by U.S. persons to, from, or in the so-called DNR and LNR regions of Ukraine," Jen Psaki says following recognition by Putin of regions as "independent."
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1495858379243282434
>EU leadership @vonderleyen & @eucopresident say that bloc will react with sanctions "against those involved in this illegal act" of recognising Donetsk and Luhansk. >Suggests individual, targeted sanctions: not the big ol' war package that everyone has been talking up for weeks.https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/1495853591764082700Communist Party of Russia has just endorsed Putin's call to recognise the DNR and LNR.
Zyuganov: "Look how zealous the Americans and British are now. They forced Ukraine to send almost all its troops to the Donetsk-Luhansk region. More than 100k in a patch of 40-50km."
https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/1495857447973572610>>513633absolutely not:
>>513630>>513631Probably not but hopefully, for the petroyuan
Reposting this
Russia has been preparing for this possibility for more than a year. It has repeatedly shown a capability to rapidly mobilize 100,000-plus combat-ready forces in short order. NATO has shown an ability to mobilize 30,000 after six-to-nine-months of extensive preparations.
What would a conflict between Russia and NATO look like? In short, not like anything NATO has prepared for. Time is the friend of NATO in any such conflict—time to let sanctions weaken the Russian economy, and time to allow NATO to build up sufficient military power to be able to match Russia’s conventional military strength.
Russia knows this, and as such, any Russian move will be designed to be both swift and decisive.
First and foremost, if it comes to it, when Russia decides to move on Ukraine, it will do so with a plan of action that has been well-thought out and which sufficient resources have been allocated for its successful completion. Russia will not get involved in a military misadventure in Ukraine that has the potential of dragging on and on, like the U.S. experience in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Russia has studied an earlier U.S. military campaign—Operation Desert Storm, of Gulf War I—and has taken to heart the lessons of that conflict.
One does not need to occupy the territory of a foe in order to destroy it. A strategic air campaign designed to nullify specific aspects of a nations’ capability, whether it be economic, political, military, or all the above, coupled with a focused ground campaign designed to destroy an enemy’s army as opposed to occupy its territory, is the likely course of action.
Given the overwhelming supremacy Russia has both in terms of the ability to project air power backed by precision missile attacks, a strategic air campaign against Ukraine would accomplish in days what the U.S. took more than a month to do against Iraq in 1991.
On the ground, the destruction of Ukraine’s Army is all but guaranteed. Simply put, the Ukrainian military is neither equipped nor trained to engage in large-scale ground combat. It would be destroyed piecemeal, and the Russians would more than likely spend more time processing Ukrainian prisoners of war than killing Ukrainian defenders.
For any Russian military campaign against Ukraine to be effective in a larger conflict with NATO, however, two things must occur—Ukraine must cease to exist as a modern nation state, and the defeat of the Ukrainian military must be massively one-sided and quick. If Russia is able to accomplish these two objectives, then it is well positioned to move on to the next phase of its overall strategic posturing vis-à-vis NATO—intimidation.
While the U.S., NATO, the EU, and the G7 have all promised “unprecedented sanctions,” sanctions only matter if the other side cares. Russia, by rupturing relations with the West, no longer would care about sanctions. Moreover, it is a simple acknowledgement of reality that Russia can survive being blocked from SWIFT transactions longer than Europe can survive without Russian energy. Any rupturing of relations between Russia and the West will result in the complete embargoing of Russian gas and oil to European customers.
There is no European Plan B. Europe will suffer, and because Europe is composed of erstwhile democracies, politicians will pay the price. All those politicians who followed the U.S. blindly into a confrontation with Russia will now have to answer to their respective constituents why they committed economic suicide on behalf of a Nazi-worshipping, thoroughly corrupt nation (Ukraine) which has nothing in common with the rest of Europe. It will be a short conversation.
If the U.S. tries to build up NATO forces on Russia’s western frontiers in the aftermath of any Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia will then present Europe with a fait accompli in the form of what would now be known as the “Ukrainian model.” In short, Russia will guarantee that the Ukrainian treatment will be applied to the Baltics, Poland, and even Finland, should it be foolish enough to pursue NATO membership.
Russia won’t wait until the U.S. has had time to accumulate sufficient military power, either. Russia will simply destroy the offending party through the combination of an air campaign designed to degrade the economic function of the targeted nation, and a ground campaign designed to annihilate the ability to wage war. Russia does not need to occupy the territory of NATO for any lengthy period—just enough to destroy whatever military power has been accumulated by NATO near its borders.
And—here’s the kicker—short of employing nuclear weapons, there’s nothing NATO can do to prevent this outcome. Militarily, NATO is but a shadow of its former self. The once great armies of Europe have had to cannibalize their combat formations to assemble battalion-sized “combat groups” in the Baltics and Poland. Russia, on the other hand, has reconstituted two army-size formations—the 1st Guards Tank Army and the 20th Combined Arms Army—from the Cold War-era which specialize in deep offensive military action.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/01/10/what-war-with-russia-would-look-like/>>513691==CHRIS CHAN CONFIRMED TO BE GOD
THE DIMENSIONAL MERGE IS HAPPENING==
>>513703Unless Donetsk got bombed, he probably is.
He's too old to fight and has a more important job anyway. Look forward to the next video unless Youtube deletes him.
>>513687>imperialism is when you kill the NS-II to save a lot of people's lives in DonbasPHEW Lenin is revolting in his grave any time these liberals use the term incorrectly.
In other news, Donbasians are celebrating in the streets and saw footage of someone saying they have never felt so much tranquility and peace.
>>513732They are part of NATO and cucks of U.S. imperialism.
>>772445>Russia says it wont invade>Commies: They won't invade! Putin said so! BTFO!This was the diplomacy talking, but the string was cut, we predicted that sane people in ukraine would do the diplomatic arrangement, but seems very deranged people live there, perhaps as you.
>uses commie unironicallyMods, ban already this phagget.
>>513754Nah Russia likely breaks Ukraine into small "federal states" that are more easy to control.
Divide and conquer in action and that has been Russian way of doing things.
>>513775So here's the the brief version of what imperialism is and why it is bad: it is economic exploitation and extraction of wealth at the expense of native population. Not desirable for the native population, nor sustainable in long term economic planning. It is
not doing a geopolitics. It is
not doing an expansionism.
The problem with the Brits taking India wasn't the rolling of the princely states (they can go fuck themselves), it was the repeated famines they caused.
>>513807this is fucking bullshit
1. Xi
2. Luka
3. Putin
4. Assad
5. Kim
>>513815Good, we are in the tone of admitting Donbas is not Ukrainian :^)
This is the first step to coping with your schizophrenia.
>>513797It just disappeared
Consider yourself noticed sus plane
>>513860possibly 25th or 93rd brigade
its not my information
>>513854btfo
>>513860they definitely have yellow armbands, but I haven;t seen that on azov before
>>513859lol
The Anglos said this to the IRA too after decades of mowing down African tribals. Always sucks to get a taste of your own medicine.
>>513785Because Russia while corrupt and capitalist is killling nazis right now as we speak.
To me is simple as that
>>513837>Burger-Jadiya moment Some people need to learn some history
demanding webms of planes
simple as
>>513864everyone going off about the su-57s ignoring the fucking blackjack at 0:13
>>513848This strengthens the affirmation it was a surgery op.
>>513864HOLLY SU-57s they sound infernally frightening, what the fuck is that fucking scream
NOOOOMeanwhile:
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1496725600660340739
>"According to a US journalist, "two Turkish military Airbus planes at Boryspil airport are under Russian military control, parked at the presidential/VIP terminal, with safe passage to evacuate President Zelensky and his entourage if they desire to leave."LMAO >>513863Is this the dude who said the place of american leftists was not in the street protesting police and fascism because they could get killed and they're probably full of feds?
>>513864kino
Jason Unruhe is awake (he recently tweeted)
Everyone message him to do a russian invading livestream.
https://twitter.com/MaoistRebelNews>>513884At least his exit ticket is assured lmao
>>513894>literally bring a sword to a gunfight memeBut it is a good anecdote
>>513929nato is basically the U.S., especially with something like China or Russia.
Poland is so pathetic wanting to be more hawkish than the U.S.
>>513896Update your cope, you're on 2.0 version.
V0.0: They are nazies so invasion good!
V1.0: Invasion talk is propaganda
V2.0: NATO will cause the war
V3.0: W-well the war is waged humanely
>After liveleaks of Russian warcrimes appear, because they will, because every occupying force does them to some extentV4.0: Those leaks are propaganda!
V5.0: A-actually they were nazies and deserved it!
>>772683not a mod, but if you are the tard using 'commie' unironically you fucking deserved it.
>>513945Don't you have a revolution to start or something?
Russia sucks but this is all AmeriKKKa and NATO's fault.
In 2014 before the Euromaidan coup d'etat the US gov was distributing bread in the streets of Kiev encouraging insurgency and violence to take over their government.
The country was divided between pro-Westerners and pro-Russians, in the East region known as Donbass.
After a fierce struggle in which the nazi group Provy Sektor even committed countless war crimes still unpunished, Russia more than anyone else, promoted the ceasefire and also Minsk agreements, to which Ukraine and separatists committed to. The roadmap considered a new constitution and some degree of autonomy to the eastern provinces. Although there were sporadic military incursions, these clashes worsened from the military support that the West (USA, NATO, UK and Canada) began to provide to Ukraine: state-of-the-art warfare weaponry, missiles, sniper rifles, without considering the military and intelligence tactics provided by American instructors.
NATO's approach to Russia's borders has been a sword of Damocles for the Russian Federation headed by a hardliner, unwilling to compromise on the security of its territory, demanding mutual respect with powers such as the US. Created by that country, NATO has invited Ukraine, for some time now, to joint military exercises in the Black Sea, a strategic area for Russia, but also for the West.
The militarization of Ukraine, which has seen an increase in its weapons arsenals, has undoubtedly encouraged it to increase control over the separatist East. The OSCE itself, which monitored the Minsk Protocol, confirmed an unusual increase in ceasefire violations along the border line against the People's Republics, which have their own parliament and administration.
In the face of the shelling, and the deafness of the European Union and the United States who have downplayed the attacks on Donetsk and Lugansk, about one million people crossed into Russia which had to open a humanitarian corridor. Despite their warnings and allegations of non-compliance
>>513950>>513957LMAO rip concern troll >>772698
>>513962Even Brzezinski wanted this. It so obviously needs to happen
>>513965Hope so, I think there are ingredients for worse though. Initial war involves a lot of air power and artillery shells, it's not like troop concentrations in the middle of nowhere.
Ukraine's crawling with neo-nazi fanatics and there's a border for a NATO-backed insurgency, plus perhaps people venting revenge over all the Donbass shelling, prolonged occupation could see that get ugly in all the ways Gladio/staybehind types dreamed of with loads of dead civilians and ethnic violence.
Also that's assuming no escalation, escalation could get very very bad.
>>513986ukraine not in nato tho
>>513987incoming guerilla nazis' protracted war
>>513985sounds like a personal problem
>>513981manime is marginally better than moeme but it's still cancer
>>513990They will kill Nordstream-2. Just like they wanted. Defending Ukraine was never in the cards.
This is the scenario for a temporary fizzle. This might buy you a year before WW3 kicks off.
>>513976>Saying lies about the community or the board should be toleratedRetard, anyone with a brain can say that Russia is a capitalist hellhole, in half of the threads that has been the main point of opposing any action the Yeltsin's man takes. But saying lies about the board in general is sanctioned to my knowledge.
>>513994Incoming cleaning of collaborators, like after ww2
>>513995>Comparing grunts to commandersLol
Anyway, Putin also had a mother that loved him.
>>513987>Gladio/staybehind typesI think they will either be caught or leave
>>513994>incoming guerilla nazis' protracted warmore like blowback, new zealand shooter trained in ukraine
>>514000wasn't me but it seems that 4 can be invoked when a non nato-member is attacked?
>>514009not everyone can have imperial superprofits to develop so well to get those rights
>>514009>What are you people going to do when le ebin American empire fallsCheer.
>Chinese and Russian imperialism is the exact same shit except with no transhumanist rights?China (while not as progressive in some parts of the west), does have rights that protect trans people and recognise them.
In 2014, Shanxi Province started allowing minors to apply for the change with the additional information of their guardian's identification card. This shift in policy allows post-surgery marriages to be recognized as heterosexual and therefore legal.
In 2020, a court in Beijing said that a transgender woman was covered by anti-discrimination protections pertaining to sex, and her employer was obligated to treat her as female, because she had legally transitioned.
In 2021, China's first clinic for transgender children and adolescents was set up at the Children's Hospital of Fudan University in Shanghai to safely and healthily manage transgender minors' transition.
As for Russia, I've got little hope there.
>>514029Literally just until he decides to take the Turkish plane, or resigns, or gets couped.
If there are actually VDV guys at the airport, all Putin has to do is call him and be like "don't make us come over there"
>>514039i would be free
>>514041xD
>>514057>So what is the consensus thought of leftypol on this situation99% pro-Russia if you go on our cytube servers
50% pro-Ukraine trolls ITT when posting
>>514070There won't be an occupation. This will last for a week at most, more likely a couple of days, until Zelensky folds. For all we know he's already talking to Putin on the phone.
They'll extract independence for the republics and staying out of NATO, then pull out and leave the Ukrainian government with the fallout.
>>514057'ate Azov
'ate Putin
'ate US
'ate NATO
luv me normal Ukrainians who have to get shot and bombed now for bullshit reasons
simple as
>>514065based
>>514061>99% pro-Russialike what's the angle
america would get involved and then more profit and chaos will happen
letting ukraine be annexed is the option of least destruction worldwide?
>>514090>demilitarizationRussian military just did it in 2 hours.
>denazificationLikely in progress as we speak, courtesy of Russian spec ops.
>>514101This
No 20 year occupation. Putin is giving America a master class on how to handle this shit.
>>514098idealism
the options are national capitalism or economic subjugation to the IMF.
https://ci-ic.org/blog/2022/02/04/report-on-the-international-situation/Which spheres are involved?
It is about parts of Eastern Europe, the Balkans and Central Asia, as well as Syria, which is important for Russia’s access to the Mediterranean. The Russian imperialists complain that the contractual guaranteed non-eastwards-expansion of NATO was violated. They want NATO to adhere to its 1997 status, withdraw its troops from the border areas and never ever allow Ukraine to become a member of NATO. To illustrate the development: Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary have become NATO members since 1999, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia since 2004, Albania and Croatia since 2009, Montenegro since 2017 and North Macedonia since 2020.
In Asia, it becomes clear that US imperialism has succeeded in bringing together two powers that have been in serious and very serious conflict with each other for centuries (with the exception of the times of the socialist Soviet Union and the People’s Republic of China):
„So far, the US and the West have slapped more than 100 sanctions on Russia, sparing no effort to suppress a major power “from a position of strength.” Before this dialogue, the US and NATO had warned Russia with a sense of intimidation. In the dictionary of Washington, “respect” is rarely seen. Washington’s real intent is to pressure Russia until it surrenders, so as to get rid of this threat to US hegemony for good.
In a sense, the US has brutally forced Russia to become an “enemy.” With this “enemy,” Washington can hold Europe closer to itself. While pushing NATO to expand eastward, the US is also hyping Russophobia in Europe. Consequently, relatively new members to NATO are generally hostile to Russia. The anti-Russia sentiment is at a peak in Ukraine, which is not a wise move for the country. Because this will put it at risk between two major powers – but this meets Washington’s strategic demands.
>>514144>>514157I fucking hate the media circus so much
The only thing worse than the war afterwards is going to be all the clowns
I will not participate in the oncoming discourse, Reroute it all back to class
Russia must be invading because of the sanctions and their ruiling class needing more land and resources to exploit, That's what I'm going to say
>>514163Simple, they should have followed Minsk 2 and denazified by their own volition in the past 8 years as you point out
Sadly it didn't happen, they rattled and rattled fueling the flames with the DPR and LPR and now we are here
Also
>Belarusization as in>Belarus = bad If you begin to defend the Guaido of the Slavs fuck off liberal
>>514142Also why is it that Hamas and other Islamist groups are an understandable and partially forgivable consequence of national liberation/self-determination struggles in the case of Palestine but Azov is different?
Off topic and maybe I should post it in /siberia/ but that's what really bothers me about this, besides the fact that a ton of innocent civilians are going to die for bullshit geopolitics and that LGBT people are going to suffer an even worse fate than they had under Kiev as it's existed since Maidan. The way you "anti-imperialists" don't actually have objective criteria and just cheerlead anyone who Washington dislikes.
>>514170Holy fuck thanks for reminding me why I hate Amerika and its partners.
>>514183There was a lot of controversy but of course nothing happened.
>>514013Unbelievably cursed.
>>514062Birds puttng up more resistance than Ukrainian military.
>>514157That ngo should be murdered in Minecraft.
>>514170Man, I remember the myth of "surgical strikes" in American media. In hindsight, it was the predecessor of the current myth of "clean" drone warfare: if surgical strikes which minimize civilian casualties are indeed technically possible, America sure as fuck is not doing those.
>>514190big brain moment
>>514175Gotta tell you, Russia didn't send its most expensive toys to Ukraine, kek. Not worthy.
>>514163>And United Russia > the Russin line on LGBT rights, women's rights and other progressive issuesRussia literally has gay nude clubs in their main cities. You can fucking go to any web search and write "gay club in x" city in Russia and you will ee even pictures of them.
United Russia isn't literally nazis. Capitalists, not liberals, yeee, perhaps.
>>514185>Also why is it that Hamas and other Islamist groups are an understandable and partially forgivable consequenceI dislike Hamas, I prefer Hezbollah.
But if the group is not a protofascist equivalent in Islamism, like the Muslim brotherhood, the Salafists, even if they are pro-capitalists and a slightly rightish, as long they are anti-imperialism I tolerate them because they were fucking treated like shit for decades, now close to a century, under western imperialism.
>>514212>muh tankiesA bunch of politically illiterate online weirdoes have little to no influence on IRL politics. And besides most of the "support" of Putin from these "tankies" is critical.
Garunteed they'd cheer for Putin's head on a stick if Communists were overthrowing Russia.
>>514229okay, this one got me
Lenin statues ward off azovoids.
>>514235I don't know if its a shitpost
I don't know if its a reap opinion
But either way, my sides have left the orbit
>>514229KEKW
>Jan 15MORE BASED
>>514185Hamas and the more "moderate" groups such as Hezbollah, … (as opposed to Al-Qaeda which was literally created by a rich guy in Saudi Arabia, Al-Nursa, …) do not do bad things like the far-right, at least not as much. They are just typical insurgent groups. Not so for Azov.
In fact the Al-Qaeda, ISIS,… are just middle eastern far right.
>>514275>>514284stop namedropping me im anon for this thread and this isnt /siberia/ faggots
>>514290unironically he's not me
>>514292I'm afraid I cannot comply dear anon, for revealing my tits may expose agents in the field
>>514296My last words as the nukes drop will either be "nothingburger", "ratio", or "more like POOkraine"
>>514257I'm serious, not a shitpost. I just woke up to all the hysteria.
>>514246This ^ Could be old war footage from all kinds of past conflicts with Russian/Cuckrainian-speaking actors voicing over it. Give me actual proof or fuck off, sizzlers!
>>514312tbf literally all of these are true for the vast bulk of /leftypol/ users
russia could annex ukraine tomorrow and the worst consequence would be slightly higher energy bills and having to re-learn the shape of russia on the map. (and maybe, at a push, it becomes a real pain in the dick to buy people's soviet grandfather's medals for £2 on ebay.)
>>514346I know, yep, imageboards are like that
I'm Russian too btw, so tired of this shit…
>>514346That's what happens when miserable poor western commies who crawl over broken glass for every dictator the west hates, they'll laugh and cheer at the slaughter of innocent people because "Fuck USA".
No wonder why commies are so hated.
>>513677Amerikkka cringe gold medal, NATO cringe silver medal, Putin cringe bronze medal, US-backed Ukrainian nazis cringe honorary mention.
Amerikkka gets gold medal for working for decades with NATO to create and escalate geopolitical instability in the region for the sake of profits/anticommunism.
>>514373This
Russia and China need to find a way to bring unrest and turmoil to the US' doorstep
>>514391I asked an anon "Would you defend Putin if he invaded Romania, Poland, Estonia, etc? Yes or no?"
Anon is silent in his reply.
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