Ukrainian waifus for everyone edition.
TO WATCH FOR NEWS:
https://liveuamap.com/Live updates from Texan commie boomer in Donbass:
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTexacFor Russiabros, analysis from Boris Rozhin:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ (has a telegram, lots of cool stuff there too)
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"Modern Ukraine was completely created by Russia," Putin says in speech to the nation“
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495832687227068422Putin: "We are ready to show you what true de-Communization means to Ukraine."“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495833069676335104“PUTIN SAYS UKRAINE'S ADMISSION TO NATO IS A DIRECT THREAT TO RUSSIA'S SECURITY || NATO TRAINING CENTRES ESTABLISHED IN UKRAINE AMOUNT TO NATO MILITARY BASES“
https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1495840775082737664Putin says Ukraine is a "U.S. colony" with a "puppet regime"
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495840971208429568“Russia claims Ukraine invaded Russia and says 5 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and two APCs destroyed near Rostov.
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1495745864320831492Putin, in televised address on Ukraine crisis, talks about a "nationalistic virus" says 1991 collapse of Soviet Union saw Russia robbed
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1495834881028411393“Putin: "Why did we have to transfer the rights to the territories that had been part of the Russian Empire?"“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495832267687669763PUTIN SPEECH WAS PRERECORDED:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1495775697121517570Russia & Syria officially recognize LNR and DPR
https://mobile.twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1495845600834822147Syria recognizing LNR/DPR
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495847706555781123Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua likely to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk republics shortly
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495850619487371265Putin Calls For Ukraine To Break Apart
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-president-putin-ukraine-break-apart_n_6213d491e4b0ef74d724b3a0"President Biden will soon issue an Executive Order that will prohibit new investment, trade, and financing by U.S. persons to, from, or in the so-called DNR and LNR regions of Ukraine," Jen Psaki says following recognition by Putin of regions as "independent."
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1495858379243282434
>EU leadership @vonderleyen & @eucopresident say that bloc will react with sanctions "against those involved in this illegal act" of recognising Donetsk and Luhansk. >Suggests individual, targeted sanctions: not the big ol' war package that everyone has been talking up for weeks.https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/1495853591764082700Communist Party of Russia has just endorsed Putin's call to recognise the DNR and LNR.
Zyuganov: "Look how zealous the Americans and British are now. They forced Ukraine to send almost all its troops to the Donetsk-Luhansk region. More than 100k in a patch of 40-50km."
https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/1495857447973572610>>520159Cope and seethe King Learers
>>520161We should support Russia. Both sides bad = cringe. Staying silent means that you're cryptically supporting your enemy
>>520161We shouldn’t take sides
However most of this board are national chauvinists, former /pol/ posters, and alienated zoomers, so they’ll celebrate an imperialist war where they have the entertainment of watching proles get turned to mulch
>>520169So much for a quick end to the war.
They tried to avoid the civilian casualties that are going to come.
>>520169Big
>my phone battery died, just trust me guise :cenergy on this
>>520161Obliviously choose neither side, and
>>520166 unlike this anon don't choose the lesser of two evils. We should focus on our organizations use this opportunity as means to rail against the state and capitalism.
>>520184Cocky? Trying what?
What on earth are you saying, speak English anon.
>>520182he's good at filtering reddit right wingers too
t. example no. 2
>>520199Russia today have only existed for about 30 something years compared to the US, however.
A dozen acts trump one act. Read Killing Hope
>>520202Yes? You can't just click the advance front-line button and watch the fighting take place 24/7.
This isn't
actually HoI4.
>>520215I think the reverse is true. When you play a game or sim, you actually start to understand and distinguish game vs reality.
>>520214 (Anda)
fuck off bitch-ass
>>520212>Ukraine won't have an actual Nazi problem until the war gets to the insurgency phaseuygha where have you been lately???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalionest. 2014
>>520196Or maybe they don't like the idea of war in general. And people feel powerless to do anything?
>>520224>I think the reverse is true. When you play a game or sim, you actually start to understand and distinguish game vs reality.I disagree games like porn make it hard understand the realities of war/sex.
https://strawpoll.com/278q7q4ph/VOTE FOR WHAT SIDE YOU THINK WILL WIN
(not which side you hope will win)
>>520212I feel like /leftypol/ got a troll brigade
ольгинцы ебучие
There seems to be a lot of confirmed and unconfirmed losses on the Russian side.
What is confirmed so far is the Russian army has been halted in a few places in the east.
Russian troops hold Chernobyl and a few are around Kyiv.
Some Russian troops are still heading to the city from the west.
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael/status/1497001745649651722#mBeside that much is till unknown as both sides are making a lot of stuff up.
>>520245It actually is if you don't start fighting a war around a nuclear waste storage facility
Fun fact: the tests that led to the Chernobyl disaster were commisioned after Israel attack a Syrian power plant
>>520268>Azov (indirectly) killed 8gagI don't know what to think.
I miss it, but also fuck chodemonkey and his CIA handler.
>>520269>It's like expecting an American invasion to solve a Muslim country's Jihadi problemExcept that those jihadis are backed by the United States too; in other words… A FALSE FLAG.
https://telegra.ph/AMERICA-SECRETLY-LOVES-JIHADIS-01-18Azov is clearly funded by the US.
https://telegra.ph/ukraine-02-24 Russian forces hold Konotop under siege, moving to Kyiv.
Sumy Oblast Governor Serhiy Zhyvytskiy says a lot of the region’s cities have been encircled by the enemy.
A large military group is moving from occupied Sumy toward Kyiv.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497024504455139330?s=20&t=Hs-l8dNBFqeMbCY4JLBBUw>>520288>I condemn the relationship of the Ukrainian government to Azov as much as anybody else, butlol
>Ukraine is run by the same shitty post-Soviet oligarchs you have in RussiaAt least in Russia you have a national bourgeoisie, in Ukraine it's mostly comprador. Ukraine sold out to the West, Russia is fighting not to sell out.
Kyiv close to falling: "Russian mechanized forces, which came in from Belarus, are 20 miles outside of Kyiv," Austin told lawmakers tonight
https://twitter.com/HansNichols/status/1497025238009319426?s=20&t=eQG2hhl0NaMyA0Nw-yZhwAAustin told members of the House that military officials are looking at ways to provide more defense equipment — including ammunition — to Ukrainian forces, but it's more difficult now with Russian troops swarming the country. w/
@jonathanvswan
and
https://twitter.com/HansNichols/status/1497024476495560707?s=20&t=eQG2hhl0NaMyA0Nw-yZhwA>>520302Trump would have supported putin
>>520305The Russians wanted to secure the facility early on the conflict so that it does not fall into neglect after the collapse of the UKR government.
It's already in neglect its a seclusion zone. The only thing the UKR government did was keep people out.
>>520312 (CONTD)
>key words are obsessed and binary brained, you can go on political forums without being obsessed. i'm just not very hip with the whole internet thing, don't know where the cool kids areMake yourself a Matrix account, talk with me. I promise I wouldn't act sussy.
Yo, where's the screencap compilation at? Ya'll are lacking.
>>520338Because that'd cause us to loose info rapidly, this makes it easier to archive everything?
>>520369>Part of me hopes this will show liberals their total impotence. But we know that isn't true.ofc not
the secret is that
they love losing, because that means you are eternally right and an eternal victim(-sympathizer) >>520367>If Ukraine created by the Bolsheviks wants genuine de-communization, this will suit Russia, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Monday.>Now grateful descendants have demolished monuments to Lenin in Ukraine. This is what they call de-communization. Do you want de-communization? Well, this quite suits us. But you must not stop halfway. We are ready to show you what genuine de-communization means for Ukraine," Putin said in his address to the nation over the situation in Ukraine’s southeast.>The modern Ukraine was entirely created by Communist Russia, Russian President said. "The modern Ukraine was entirely and completely created by Russia, or rather, the Bolshevik, Communist Russia," the head of state said.>"This process started almost immediately after the 1917 Revolution; Lenin and his associates did it in a way, very brutal towards Russia itself - by separating, alienating parts of Russia’s own historic territories," Putin added.https://tass.com/politics/1407587 >>520356Well yeah and disciplining NATO and prospects, because they will be next if they step out of line. But it's not like Russia forced this NATO did. Russia just played their hand best they could, which sure is still bourgeois war but I bet Russia was content keeping the territory dispute open and Ukraine off NATO while the US hegemony decays for a few more years.
>>520363AFAIK that's either giving microtransactions and underage gambling a new facade to hide form regulation not actually managing game ownership with blockhain
>>520381>Capitalism is all about efficiencysays who?
>it's just wasting money and laborit always had
>bullshit jobs[undefined made up term, akin to "icky"]
fuck off booklet
>>520388>Then his own (Russian) communists need to kill him and replace him in a proletarian revolution.This is what we have been saying all along.
>We shouldn't be asking an imperialist power, NATO, to do it for us.Nobody here has advocated for this.
>>520390Counterintelligence hackers? Or using crystal balls that predict the future?
Whenever they hack someone Russia just dismissed it but whenever Russia hacks their systems they'll chimp out one and for all. Double standards, m8.
>>520403read graeber
just read the 300+ page doorstopper, do it faggot
>>520395>Scorched earthWait till they blow up Chernobyl and blame the invaders.
>>520407Presumably because they had already decided to poke the bear(heh) until it mauled Ukraine and Zelenski was trying to play it down so it didn't look like they were asking for a fight.
>>520419j-just read it
you need to read that 300+ page book before I can even explain a two-word term it's not my le job to educate you
>>520413>Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.AIN'T GOT NO GUN
AIN'T GOT NO KNIFE
DON'T YOU START NO FIGHT
>>520400It's because they're so far removed from material analysis they end up believing "views" or "words" are like magic. It's no real surprise that shit like "The Law of Attraction" for libs and Sovereign Citizens for Cons has become a legitimate thing adjacent to each group. Because at the end of the day their premise isn't too far from basic liberalism: namely that society is based off laws and rights and ideals and not simply whoever has the bigger stick. It's why Sovereign Citizens can keep going despite it
never once working for anyone. Despite video after video of idiots getting pulled over and saying "I'm not driving drunk, I'm travelling" only to get brutalized by the cops. It's because they think that this liberal shit is real, and that a mere elaboration of terms can somehow stop the people with all the guns if they want something you have.
>>520443capitalism is dead guys
just ignore all the capitalists
>>520443>You have to use a really broad definition of capitalism to call our existing system capitalism.generalized commodity production
There, I used 3 words. Feudalism never had that.
>>520462Lmao I’ve never been in war either, difference is I don’t celebrate watching proles die and imperialist wars break out because they’re happening thousands of miles away and I can “own libs” by celebrating them
I would imagine if the kindly Vladimir Ilyich were still alive he’d have half this board shot for chauvinism
>>520470Impossible to see, always in motion the future is
But war has always been ecological devastating, so make of that what you will
>>520470ecosystem is doomed either way
>>520480the 'decommunize' thing was mostly a nationalist joke about how removing Lenin statues means you deserve to be removed by Russia. but it's also anticommunist yes
>>520485Inb4 either
>He’s based and makes libs seetheOr
>Uhhhh it’s a strawman to say I support someone I’ve been cheering for the past two days >>520430How is he going to decommunise Ukraine when there are 0 ethnic Ukrainians that support anything left of Hyperborean Paleo-Ultranationalism?
Its a completely meaningless statement, de-nazifing Ukraine has actual weight to it.
>>520489Why you fucks can't even understand the joke properly?
Decommunize is a joke about how removing Lenin statues, who granted Ukraine statehood, is a very surreal and schizo thing. Also, it's one more proof that to resist NATO and to denazify Ukraine Russia will have to go through denazification of itself by purging it's fake history created in 1980-90s
>>520491>How is he going to decommunise Ukraine when there are 0 ethnic Ukrainians that support anything left of Hyperborean Paleo-Ultranationalism?Lmao do you actually believe this? You can't on the one hand say that Ukrainian proles are terrorized by their Nazi government but also thay they're all Nazis themselves. Moreover it's a ridiculous chauvinist statement to paint an entire nationality as all having the same opinions.
>Its a completely meaningless statementIt pretty clearly indicates the actual class and ideological character of Putin's government.
>>520515dude, you seriously think putin would gulag commies in ukraine? you're so clueless man
it's far more probable that he would use ukr commie party as he uses kprf
commies are synonymous with russian chauvinism in a mind of a proud ukrainian anyway
not without a reason either tho
>>520559All I know is apparently in the “People’s Republics” they killed the communist commander who tried taking charge
Source: Leftypol
>>520559It's the first war directly related to Inter-Imperialist conflict on the European conflict since WW2.
I.e view the methods of the Bolsheviks, the German Communists and the French Communists during WW1
>>520564 (me)
and yes wrecking every scent of organization and leadership in a movement is taking a leadership role with zero accountability or democracy
>>520503aren't chechens a bunch of butchers
christ, wtf are they doing
>>520565Tomorrow Taiwan
Next week temporarily occupied territories of Korea
>>520572Yes. That is the point.
Russia is needing to make a huge expenditure just to keep the status quo while NATO countries are expending…what exactly?
>>520537Correct.
I can't bring myself to defend Putin because everytime i think about this whole ordeal i still see him as a shitstain. Though my habbening lust altered my vision of reality for a few hours.
>>520573That really happened? I thought that was a joke article.
Just racism towards russians
>>520582Real talk will this mean Russia bumrushes Finland and Sweden next?
Just Finland maybe?
>>520559> like, is anyone involved even remotely leftist?no
Eastern Europe barely has any leftist movements, CPRF is Putin's puppet and controlled opposition
>>520567idk Allende anon (Are you actually Chilean / South-Americastani btw?) Burgoid psyops can literally fry peoples brains and make them believe literally anything.
A good chunk of our country's population believes that China is somehow going to launch a combined ground, Naval, Air invasion of Australia and are 'BUILDING BASES IN OUR BACKYARD' When China is in an entirely different fucking hemisphere then us.
All that burgoids would need to do in a cunt the size of switzerland is print 500BN burger-bux and have some Christian-Democrat glowies run a massive campaign about how vladolf putler is going to kill everyone and they will be begging to join
>>520548I don't say he is a commie messiah
but you make it sound like he is some rabid anti-commie, which he is not
he is just a pragmatic bourgeois politician, quite a competent one, if I say so myself, serving the needs of his bourgeois state
>>520596I thought Ukraine and Russia's population were full of communists.
if there's no leftist movements there where the first worker's state was formed, then I have no hope for this shithole of a planet
>>520599Is there any chance this could be white phosphorous? idk war shit
>>520611Yes I was reading some Russians who were saying the same thing, I thought so too, it actually made sense
>>520563The latter would be pro-Russia. I bet it'll be the new Warsaw Pact.
Also regarding NATO I only hope that Olgino ramps up efforts again and this war continues up to 2024
>>520610I'm not saying "russia shouldnt' defend itself"
I'm saying "Russia just had to expend a huge amount of military force that NATO effectively conjured up for free"
>>520616Lol no
As the usa loses its grip over the rest of the world, it will go back to its speciality: terrorizing latin america
>>520595Predictions
1.
NATO will draw and damage Russian military capacity as much as possible, Afghanistan the shit out of them
2.
NATO will add members like Sweden and Finland
3.
Masses of troop's and weaponry sent to Romania, Poland, Hungary, the Baltics and the new members
4.
NATO Russia conflict odds increase
>>520613> I thought Ukraine and Russia's population were full of communists.HAHAHAHAHA
sorry, no, unless you consider a communist your typical Soviet-nostalgic grandma voting CPRF for pension money
lately, there has been a fresh wave of young leftists, as everywhere in the world, but for example LatAm countries are 100x more left in comparison
>>520603Yes retard. These are not the reason people join orgs or the reasons people should join orgs for.
It literally has nothing to do with anything outside of your sad ebin internet debate bro larps or whatever. Grow up.
>>520161I don't support Putin no, but Russia going against NATO is a good thing.
Ironically /pol/ supports Putin because he's fighting globohomo.
>>520573hltv is pretty fucking funny but you gotta wade through the filth to find it. Luckily the ukranian players (including the best player in the world) were bootcamping in poland.
>>520593There hasn't. Rumor that some teams have asked players not to comment were also proven untrue.
>>520635<Donetsk Theater<Combat operations are of an emphatically “constraining” nature. The limited attack on Volnovakha is intended to threaten not only Mariupol (in fact, its liberation is of no strategic importance now, as it will certainly be surrendered by the enemy when the troops from the 1st Theater move on to Berdyansk and Zaporizhia), but more importantly, to threaten a frontal break towards the rapidly advancing “Crimean” formations from the west. This threat requires the enemy to buy in and prevents the release of troops that would otherwise have been thrown into recreating the “Crimean Front”.AAAAAHHH Tukhachevsky bros we've been vindicated
FUCK Yezov and FUCK Stalin
>>520598>South-AmericastaniYeah, Brazilian.
Idk Australianon, they've always been high up in the mountains chilling, didn't come out even in WW2. Why would they now
>>520654Putin should be demonised.
Americans might be more likely to support Putin, but they are also more likely to want to turn the Russian invasion of Ukraine into WW3.
>>520729It can be somewhere else and not necessarily in langley proper, but if they aren't then they're shit at their job - and they're too overfunded to be
that bad at it.
>>520736t. happooner
literally nothing has happened
>>520729Probably Ft. Meade
I'll see you lads in the REX-84 camps
I love America, I love democracy. :)
>>520729If true, he'd probably be laughing too much to breathe.
And i don't mean laughter in the:
>haha, they're so funny kind.
>>779509>>779521>UN found no evidence of chemical weapons beforehandHell yeah I'm replying to this delicious bait
>>520741yea it just looks a little bit more smoky but otherwise very similar imo
>>779478>>520714The "support" for the most part is Critical. Doubt anyone has delusions that Putin is going to re-establish the USSR or save the world.
As far as I'm concerned, the only "good guys" that should be supported in this conflict are the DPR and the LPR. Don't get it twisted, Putins a reactionary bastard, and his invasion has gone too far, but his actions have exposed the world to the paper tiger that is NATO.
>>520742>Ukraine has been invaded>two new independent nations have been recognised by Russia, Cuba, and Venezuala. >NATO has been exposed for weaklings. >Azov Battalion is getting BTFO. <i-it's a nothing burger. >>520746Thank god I though I saw a p there and I went all "Agent Kochinsky is that you!"
Thankfully it was my mind playing tricks on me
>>520767>>520764I would actually point out that WP does have
legal use as smoke round too, and that it's not impossible for it to be on a plane for that purpose.
>>520785>Oh no, he won’t shill for my heckin based wholesome anticommunist government!<Guess he’s from le reddit spookKys chauvinist
I fucking hate this timeline
Anarchists voting for war credits
“Leninists” shilling for imperialist proxy wars
90% of the west deserves to die, 99% of online leftists
>>520797I don’t give a fuck what you think, lefty/pol/ subhuman
>Oh you’re getting boringLeninhat had the right idea of you people
>>520768The irony is that for anybody who doesn't actually live in Russia or Ukraine, these debates are pretty much entirely theoretical. There are people who shill Putin and people who don't, but the position of both in regards to Western involvement is emphatic opposition. For non-Russian/Ukrainian communists at this point there are only two questions which truly distinguish the glow from the non glow.
>Do you oppose Western involvement in Ukraine?>Will you work constructively with people who have different opinions about Russia and Putin than you do?If your answer to both those questions is yes, then you are on the right side.
>>520641He's not a follower of chilies economic and political model tho his economic and political policy seems to have shifted to mussolinism especially after he read a bunch of park chung hee history books to learn economic and political lessons from
Of course this is still anti communist but if you are gonna criticize putin point out he's aa dirigsme fascist instead of a neoliberal Chile dictator
>>520806Putin is part of the current neoliberal order.
Dude literally said the only kind of criminal forces are the ones that target private property lmao.
>>520790Critical support isn't actual support* what I meant is no one actually supports* Putin
I'm sure everyone critically supports putin including me. The issue is people being mad with the critical part of the support. Oh you critical of Putin seems we have a NATO shill on our hands lads or you support Putin and aren't critical enough. This is the unnecessarily argument I'm trying to stop.
>>520811He also heavily nationalized the private sector too
And his economic policy is centralized. This is not neoliberal this is dirigsme
>>520792not celebrating. war is shit. but there already was war. 15,000 were killed since 2014 and the positions staked out by US-Ukriane were that their only intent was to never implement the Minsk agreements and forcibly retake DPR/LPR, which means current and ongoing war. And next that Russia's main concern of Ukraine joining NATO was simply non-negotiable (a "non-starter") which tells Russia the US is going to absorb it into NATO at some point, which will ultimately lead to confrontation and war.
War was here already (DPR/LPR) and further war was coming (constant NATO provocations/confrontations on the border). Russia chose to end the war quickly and decisively, rather than fight it sporadically for years or decades.
War sucks though and it doesn't always go how planners think it will (see Iraq). If this escalation leads to further escalations it could wind up in a worse place than before.
>>520834>it still makes him unpopularwith who? russians? doubt it
russians just want this ukrainian shitshow to end, if putin manages to achieve this with a relative minor blood he will be more popular than ever
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