No.520150[Last 50 Posts]
Ukrainian waifus for everyone edition.
TO WATCH FOR NEWS:
https://liveuamap.com/Live updates from Texan commie boomer in Donbass:
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTexacFor Russiabros, analysis from Boris Rozhin:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ (has a telegram, lots of cool stuff there too)
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"Modern Ukraine was completely created by Russia," Putin says in speech to the nation“
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495832687227068422Putin: "We are ready to show you what true de-Communization means to Ukraine."“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495833069676335104“PUTIN SAYS UKRAINE'S ADMISSION TO NATO IS A DIRECT THREAT TO RUSSIA'S SECURITY || NATO TRAINING CENTRES ESTABLISHED IN UKRAINE AMOUNT TO NATO MILITARY BASES“
https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1495840775082737664Putin says Ukraine is a "U.S. colony" with a "puppet regime"
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495840971208429568“Russia claims Ukraine invaded Russia and says 5 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and two APCs destroyed near Rostov.
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1495745864320831492Putin, in televised address on Ukraine crisis, talks about a "nationalistic virus" says 1991 collapse of Soviet Union saw Russia robbed
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1495834881028411393“Putin: "Why did we have to transfer the rights to the territories that had been part of the Russian Empire?"“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495832267687669763PUTIN SPEECH WAS PRERECORDED:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1495775697121517570Russia & Syria officially recognize LNR and DPR
https://mobile.twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1495845600834822147Syria recognizing LNR/DPR
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495847706555781123Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua likely to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk republics shortly
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495850619487371265Putin Calls For Ukraine To Break Apart
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-president-putin-ukraine-break-apart_n_6213d491e4b0ef74d724b3a0"President Biden will soon issue an Executive Order that will prohibit new investment, trade, and financing by U.S. persons to, from, or in the so-called DNR and LNR regions of Ukraine," Jen Psaki says following recognition by Putin of regions as "independent."
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1495858379243282434
>EU leadership @vonderleyen & @eucopresident say that bloc will react with sanctions "against those involved in this illegal act" of recognising Donetsk and Luhansk. >Suggests individual, targeted sanctions: not the big ol' war package that everyone has been talking up for weeks.https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/1495853591764082700Communist Party of Russia has just endorsed Putin's call to recognise the DNR and LNR.
Zyuganov: "Look how zealous the Americans and British are now. They forced Ukraine to send almost all its troops to the Donetsk-Luhansk region. More than 100k in a patch of 40-50km."
https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/1495857447973572610 No.520151
>>520150Already have a jewish waifu, no thanks
No.520155
NAZIS BEING ROASTED BY TOS-1 MLRS
No.520156
>>520150I've had myself a waifu, no thanks,
but i'd sure keep one as a backup No.520158
>>520153Pop Smoke would understand when you got ride on the other side.
No.520159
So can we all agree that Putler is a retarded monkey with a grenade?
No.520160
2hrs ago: The airforce was not destroyed! It was Russian propaganda! Hazzah! *video of one plane*
now: Regrettably the airforce has indeed been destroyed
No.520161
What is /leftypol/ overral stance on the invasion should we support Ukraine against the invasion or is this just another imperialist war we should not choose any sides with.
No.520162
>>520159Cope and seethe King Learers
>>520161We should support Russia. Both sides bad = cringe. Staying silent means that you're cryptically supporting your enemy
No.520163
One full day and Kiev is still standing gotta say Russia needs to step it up!
No.520164
>>520161We shouldn’t take sides
However most of this board are national chauvinists, former /pol/ posters, and alienated zoomers, so they’ll celebrate an imperialist war where they have the entertainment of watching proles get turned to mulch
No.520165
>>520161How about assessing the situation and forming your own educated opinion? Don't be like libs and follow the crowd
No.520166
>>520161Russia bad, NATO worse
No.520168
>>520150The US is said to be sending prayers and tactical twerking by glorious democratic people of color
No.520170
>>520167
America's is worse. The guys they're calling oligarchs could never aspire to own as much as Musk or Bezos.
No.520172
The blame for the infamies committed by Russia in Ukraine falls not only on the government but to a large extent also on the Russian people. If not for the delusions of the Russians, their slavish spirit… the Russian name would not be so detested, cursed, and despised… If the Russians ever want to go back to socialism, their whole foreign policy must change too. Otherwise the fetters with which they have chained other nations will shackle their own new freedom, which is as yet hardly more than a presentiment. Russia will liberate herself to the extent to which she sets free neighboring nations.
No.520173
>>520161This isn't about picking sides you dolt, that isn't materialist. In fact "picking sides" is just a geopolitik speak for international relations 101 crap.
No.520174
>>520164Based level headed quads.
No.520176
>>520159Yeah, that’s basically the only reason I’ve taken the stance that the invasion was worth it.
No.520177
>>520169So much for a quick end to the war.
They tried to avoid the civilian casualties that are going to come.
No.520178
>>520169Big
>my phone battery died, just trust me guise :cenergy on this
No.520179
>>520169Is Putin gonna take the kids gloves off yet?
No.520180
>>520164Based quads. Also why should we do such? We all know that this event will lead to a domino effect where the world will back off from America's sphere of influence?
No.520181
>>520179I don't get why he didn't Blitzkrieg right away. No less than 25% of Ukraine should be taken by now.
No.520183
>>520161Obliviously choose neither side, and
>>520166 unlike this anon don't choose the lesser of two evils. We should focus on our organizations use this opportunity as means to rail against the state and capitalism.
No.520184
>>520169Are we getting too cocky bros? Hopefully this would be one of only a handful failures, because humans do errors. Keep on trying lads
No.520185
>>520184Cocky? Trying what?
What on earth are you saying, speak English anon.
No.520188
>>520182he's good at filtering reddit right wingers too
t. example no. 2
No.520189
>>520159He’ d blow up NATO with it, so it’s not too bad
No.520190
>>520179It's actually not clear what his strategic goal is yet. People don't even know if he was Zelensky out or what.
No.520191
>>520164Nothing else to say besides “based quads”
No.520192
>>520188>only right wingers are against NATOburger lib moment
No.520193
>>520164>former /pol/ postersOh it's that retarded boogeyman again, I thought people had realised this isn't actually a thing by now
No.520195
So just to recap, we're all in favor of a communist revolution sparked by the anti-war protests to topple the Russian government, right? We're not, like, actually supporting Putin, right?
No.520197
>>520185>Cocky? Trying what?Advance further into Ukrainian territory?
>>520182>example 3>LE NATO IS BETTER BECAUSE IT IS INDEED A FORCE OF FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY, AND RULE OF LAW No.520199
>>520162supporting imperialist fascists to own the yanks
No.520202
Did all the militaries go to sleep? Where are all the clashes/seizures of territory?
No.520203
>>520195Literally won't happen. You are portraying your idiotic fantasies as facts. The Russian communist party supports this war and the liberal opposition in Russia is against it. The biggest thrust for the communist party to take over will be the economic backslash due to sanctions and not this few days of war.
No.520204
>>520195Putin is based and not imperialist and you're an ultra and a liberal if you disagree
No.520205
>>520202Everybody needs time to rest and look after their mental health. It's called self-care.
No.520206
>>520159Why have we allowed "putler" to become a thing? The people he's fighting are the Nazis, moron.
No.520207
>>520195I'd rather go 50:50 on this, because Putin is the one who have bravely exerted Russia's force to end American hegemony on the former Soviet Union, but remember that 1917 2: Electric Boogaloo can also happen if there was a significant opposition to the war by the KPRF.
No.520209
>>520203The Russian communist party is literally just controlled opposition THOUGH
No.520211
AAAUUUUGGH IM GONNA SUPPOOOORT
No.520212
>>520206Oh fucking stop with this shit. Ukraine won't have an actual Nazi problem until the war gets to the insurgency phase. Just like how Iraq created a vacuum for the jihadis to take over.
No.520213
>>520203Russian communists like Konstantin Syomin are against the war
No.520214
These threads are always the lowest quality on leftypol, almost every post is just trying to get attention by saying something stupid
No.520215
>>520202>noooo why is the map not getting painted to a different colorto play too many paradox games is harmful
No.520216
>>520199Russia today have only existed for about 30 something years compared to the US, however.
A dozen acts trump one act. Read Killing Hope
No.520217
>>520214nailed it, here is your attention
No.520218
>>520213>random blogger>>520209They are not.
No.520219
>>520164One’s victory advances the interests of socialism and one does not
No.520221
>>520214here's your (You) faggot
No.520222
>>520212>Nazis officially part of the military>No nazi problemOk mong
No.520223
>>520218Syomin’s a well respected journalist in Russia and has strong relationships with local communist orgs and even a moscow councilwoman
No.520224
>>520202Yes? You can't just click the advance front-line button and watch the fighting take place 24/7.
This isn't
actually HoI4.
>>520215I think the reverse is true. When you play a game or sim, you actually start to understand and distinguish game vs reality.
No.520225
>>520154People always say that it is Dugin who controls Russian geopolitics… but it is actually zvallid
No.520226
>>520196The problem with the US right now is the incoherence of their foreign policy has reached a rupture. These problems were festering for so long. The US uses sanctions to deter Russia, but the sanctions as implemented lead Russians to become toughened and protected against sanctioneering. They isolate and reject diplomacy with Russians. They expanded NATO and create threats to Russia from Ukraine, but can't use NATO troops in Ukraine. They put Russia under massive pressure, and then turned away to focus on Asia. Now there is a nationalist war, the exact thing their mission was to avoid, causing grief all of the continent, and they have no idea what to do.
No.520228
>>520214 (Anda)
fuck off bitch-ass
No.520229
>>520223"curious" that he's not a communist enough to be a member of a communist party
No.520230
>>520212>Ukraine won't have an actual Nazi problem until the war gets to the insurgency phaseuygha where have you been lately???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalionest. 2014
No.520233
>>520222As of now they're a small tumor, a very slight problem. What's more of a threat, Azov or Ukrainian spetsnaz? Face it, they don't have any institutional influence and an insurgency would only help them, provided they have enough survivors from these next few weeks, lel
No.520235
>>520224>Yes? …They're in a war, they're supposed to be fighting and getting things over with. What are they doing otherwise? This stuff costs a lot of money.
No.520236
>>520196Or maybe they don't like the idea of war in general. And people feel powerless to do anything?
>>520224>I think the reverse is true. When you play a game or sim, you actually start to understand and distinguish game vs reality.I disagree games like porn make it hard understand the realities of war/sex.
No.520238
https://strawpoll.com/278q7q4ph/VOTE FOR WHAT SIDE YOU THINK WILL WIN
(not which side you hope will win)
No.520239
>nooo you guys can't be supporting Literally Hitler!!
<fuck you, I'm now an unironic Putlerist, fagit!
welcome to THE DISCOURSE
No.520240
>>520233If they had no institutional influence, then surely, surely Ukraine could have removed them? Maybe that would have really helped the situation? Say make them not be able to fuck around in the breakaway republics??
No.520241
Patriots.win people and /Pol/ are eventually going to back china in their Taiwan dispute. It's inevitable
They will eventually tie in the "Taiwan is globohomo and loves transhumist" part together.
They already did this with Ukraine who actually has very conservative views. You'll see
No.520243
>>520241the brainworms are so deep
No.520244
>>778980
>it's okay anon, they integrated the NAZI militia into their military hierarchy, that makes them LESS nazi
fuck off kochinski
No.520245
>>520234It's ok redditors told me nuclear energy was the safest
No.520246
>>520235It's been over 16 hours. Any human needs rest.
No.520248
>>520242where is the microwave part ?
No.520249
>U.S. officials expect Kiev to fall within 96 hours
No.520250
>>520212I feel like /leftypol/ got a troll brigade
ольгинцы ебучие
No.520251
>>778980
>I honestly wouldn’t say ukraine has more of a Nazi problem than any other Eastern European country.
cope
No.520252
There seems to be a lot of confirmed and unconfirmed losses on the Russian side.
What is confirmed so far is the Russian army has been halted in a few places in the east.
Russian troops hold Chernobyl and a few are around Kyiv.
Some Russian troops are still heading to the city from the west.
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael/status/1497001745649651722#mBeside that much is till unknown as both sides are making a lot of stuff up.
No.520253
>>778980
Yeah except for what they were actually fucking doing to Russian speakers in territories bordering Russia.
If Ukraine had taken measures to crush, remove and denounce these (apparently irrelevant) factions, they might really not have a war right now. I mean really, that's the truth.
No.520255
>>520230>SizeRegiment>A regiment is a military unit. Its role and size varies markedly, depending on the country, service and/or a specialisation.>(…) with approximately 800 men and commanded by a colonelepic threat you got there, putin.
No.520256
>>520246good freakin’ morning tank
No.520257
>>520246I'm pretty sure they have people who swap out the old shift. Otherwise the enemy would attack when they're resting, DUH.
No.520258
>>520248I was going to post it, but y'know
FLOOD DETECTED; POST DISCARDED No.520262
>>5202523 days for the fall was a reasonable estimate at the outset and remains so imo
No.520264
>>520256It's 3:44 am in the Ukrainian time zone, but nice try. I'm in Canada.
No.520265
>>520197Im not advancing in to Ukrainian territory anon. I'm sitting on my sofa in western Europe baked ands shit posting and reading with a cup of tea and my friend asleep on my lap. I'd say that was pretty far from pushing the front in Ukraine as I can imagine anon..I can't see you as any closer.
No.520266
>>520245It actually is if you don't start fighting a war around a nuclear waste storage facility
Fun fact: the tests that led to the Chernobyl disaster were commisioned after Israel attack a Syrian power plant
No.520267
>>520257In order to counteract that they will probably just have a guards. not an entire army.
No.520268
>>520255Azov is more like thousands though and they're not alone but they're responsible of the most violent war crimes and they're copying hard the whole third Reich vibe. There are plenty other fascist militias. Hell those dudes formed international terrorists like the Christchurch dude who indirectly killed 8chan
No.520269
>>520244>>520251Do you guys honestly think that this war is going to solve their Nazi problem? It's like expecting an American invasion to solve a Muslim country's Jihadi problem. I'm all for Azov fucks getting clapped, but I don't see how this will have much long term efficacy even if Russia occupies Ukraine.
No.520270
>>520263
Lol. This is honestly not what people want Biden to say but it's the ONLY thing he can say. "Sorry, suck it up, bucko."
No.520271
>>520264It's almost 9a here, UTC+7, SEA.
No.520272
>>520261>the second one.what.
No.520274
Reminder that so far Russia hasn't done shit. Haven't taken Kharkov Odessa or Mariupol or Kiev. The frontline in Donbass is holding. All the frontlines are holding.
No.520275
>>520255The explain to me: WHY WERE THEY ALLOWED TO OPERATE FREELY IN EASTERN UKRAINE?
No.520276
>>520268>Azov (indirectly) killed 8gagI don't know what to think.
I miss it, but also fuck chodemonkey and his CIA handler.
No.520277
>>520272He had to make the US win somehow.
No.520278
>The city of Konotop in Sumy Oblast is under siege now, Russian military convoys are moving west towards Kyivhttps://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497022354337247235?s=20&t=FlFdKFWdc3c0fBYo6esxXwKyiv independent
No.520280
>>520269>It's like expecting an American invasion to solve a Muslim country's Jihadi problemExcept that those jihadis are backed by the United States too; in other words… A FALSE FLAG.
https://telegra.ph/AMERICA-SECRETLY-LOVES-JIHADIS-01-18Azov is clearly funded by the US.
https://telegra.ph/ukraine-02-24 No.520281
>>520274Lol yea it's still a nothingburger, plus the fact troops are stationary currently.
No.520284
>>520169How can Ukraine still deploy it's aircraft, with Russia leveling every satellite-mapped landing strip in the country?
No.520287
>>520277I just steal other peoples memes
No.520288
>>520275Because Ukraine's army was a ridiculous corrupt shambles and they were one of the groups actually motivated to fight. I condemn the relationship of the Ukrainian government to Azov as much as anybody else, but there isn't any reason to believe that they are literally running things outright. Ukraine is run by the same shitty post-Soviet oligarchs you have in Russia, the only difference is that they are pro-Western.
No.520289
is there any good place with a live chat to discuss the conflict? /leftypol/ is cringe, reddit is cringe, /pol/ is gigacringe. i just want a place to discuss this with people that aren't politics obsessed binary brain retards or overly emotional faggots.
No.520290
Russian forces hold Konotop under siege, moving to Kyiv.
Sumy Oblast Governor Serhiy Zhyvytskiy says a lot of the region’s cities have been encircled by the enemy.
A large military group is moving from occupied Sumy toward Kyiv.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497024504455139330?s=20&t=Hs-l8dNBFqeMbCY4JLBBUw No.520292
>>520283>this is a threat to the whole of europe!lol he's desperate for anyone to fight this war for him
No.520293
>>520288>the only difference is that they are pro-Western.That makes it even worse.
No.520294
>>520280>Except that those jihadis are backed by the United States tooNot the ones the US was fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, and in those countries the US presence was pretty clearly driving people towards these groups. The same will likely happen with Russia and Ukrainian fashoids.
No.520295
>>520289>is there any good place with a live chat to discuss the conflict? /leftypol/ is cringe, reddit is cringe, /pol/ is gigacringe. i just want a place to discuss this with people that aren't politics obsessed binary brain retards or overly emotional faggots.So you're saying the odor of cringe follows you wherever you go? Even when you're by yourself? Curious.
No.520296
>>520289>politics obsessed binary brain retards or overly emotional faggots.They why did you come here in the first place?
No.520297
>>520288>I condemn the relationship of the Ukrainian government to Azov as much as anybody else, butlol
>Ukraine is run by the same shitty post-Soviet oligarchs you have in RussiaAt least in Russia you have a national bourgeoisie, in Ukraine it's mostly comprador. Ukraine sold out to the West, Russia is fighting not to sell out.
No.520299
>>520289>i want to discuss this political conflict with people who aren't politics obsessedok bro, good luck
No.520302
>>520300At least with Trump it would’ve been funnier.
No.520303
lol at these people who expect zero shitposting on an image board during a war
No.520306
Kyiv close to falling: "Russian mechanized forces, which came in from Belarus, are 20 miles outside of Kyiv," Austin told lawmakers tonight
https://twitter.com/HansNichols/status/1497025238009319426?s=20&t=eQG2hhl0NaMyA0Nw-yZhwAAustin told members of the House that military officials are looking at ways to provide more defense equipment — including ammunition — to Ukrainian forces, but it's more difficult now with Russian troops swarming the country. w/
@jonathanvswan
and
https://twitter.com/HansNichols/status/1497024476495560707?s=20&t=eQG2hhl0NaMyA0Nw-yZhwA No.520307
>>520289>is there any good place with a live chat to discuss the conflict? i just want a place to discuss this with people that aren't politics obsessed binary brain retards or overly emotional faggotsuygha what
No.520308
>>520301No, that's just anti-depressants.
No.520309
ya'll stupid as fuck
hope russia gets it done fast so this ukrainian circus could finally end and everything could go back to normal without this war shit
No.520311
>>520289>that aren't politics obsessedBut it's a political conflict
No.520312
>>520296key words are obsessed and binary brained, you can go on political forums without being obsessed. i'm just not very hip with the whole internet thing, don't know where the cool kids are
No.520314
>>520224In your haste to call someone stupid you have said something stupid yourself, of course the reason the front isn't advancing is not because they're fucking sleeping
No.520315
>>520312I bet the cool kids aren't interested?
No.520316
>>520261>>520242modern war can be summed up in one line
HE WHO SEE FIRST, SHOOTS FIRST, HE WHO SHOOTS FIRST, WINS No.520317
>>520305Re-enact that one level from Modern Warfare with SAS troops who were in Ukraine earlier this month
No.520318
>>520302Trump would have supported putin
>>520305The Russians wanted to secure the facility early on the conflict so that it does not fall into neglect after the collapse of the UKR government.
It's already in neglect its a seclusion zone. The only thing the UKR government did was keep people out.
No.520320
>>520302Wtf I love Trump now? Based Accelerationist Trump really be helping the global prole
No.520321
>>520312 (CONTD)
>key words are obsessed and binary brained, you can go on political forums without being obsessed. i'm just not very hip with the whole internet thing, don't know where the cool kids areMake yourself a Matrix account, talk with me. I promise I wouldn't act sussy.
No.520322
>>520315i was in this fbi.gov with i guy met at aldi (it's a german grocery store) (and fbi.gov is kind of like skype) and everyone was fun to talk to but it died and i don't how to meet more people like that. we'd talk about belarus, coal legality of kratom and just fun stuff like that. miss them.
No.520323
>>520305I think they just expected resistance to be light there, like as if Ukraine treated the radiation as a natural barrier. It's a pretty direct path to Kiev from Belarus.
No.520326
>>520322Iono try reddit or twitter.
No.520327
Seeing how Russia's economy tanked so much and how their people will suffer because of it makes me feel hopeless in any kind of socialist future, the lack of economic sovereignty all countries have since their economies are controlled by the "market forces" (US government) means that to end capitalist hegemony some kind of miracle will be required.
No.520328
>>520325LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND
No.520329
>>520196The Ukranian people have been conscripted by NATO into being unwilling soldiers in an inter-imperialist war.
No.520330
>>520279
you sure these are Ukrainians
No.520331
>>520327Deng bros were right all along
No.520332
>>520305It is a way to Kiev
No.520333
>>520325Vladolai Putanov moment
No.520334
>>520282>My younger selfs radicalization momentDam. right in the feels anon. :(
No.520336
>>520325He turned the future into the present.
No.520337
>>520325Is he gonna make us play games that suck ass aswell?
No.520338
Any reason the mods aren't making this a cycling thread?
No.520341
>>520327Gotta get the chinese yuan now, fuck anything that has the dolar involved.
No.520342
>>520305tbh they probably just passin' through to kiev. I don't think russia cares about chernobyl
No.520344
>>520327My question is if invasion is going to cause so much economic damage to Russia. Shouldn't have Putin have all ready seen this as a possibility. Either Putin's a complete retard or this won't do as much damage as it appears.
No.520346
>>520338because we need 30+ ukraine threads in the catalog
No.520347
>>520339Who cares about these closet homosexual soyboys?
No.520348
>>520325Translates to: PUTIN CHOSE TO REUNIFY THE SOVIET UNION
No.520349
>>520346>because we need 30+ ukraine threads in the catalogWe need a Ukraine catalogue.
No.520350
>>520340>He didn't get the reference to AVGNBruh
No.520351
Yo, where's the screencap compilation at? Ya'll are lacking.
>>520338Because that'd cause us to loose info rapidly, this makes it easier to archive everything?
No.520352
>>520345political theories are not homogenous, Yanis is just wrong.
No.520354
>>520339>retard right for the wrong reasonsmany such cases
No.520356
Ukraine has been made into a meat shield so that NATO can drain Russia of military capacity as the US continues to decay.
This isn't some based communist class war, this is just some hellish new war where the people involved don't even have to use their own drones to do the fighting in a blatant inter-imperial war.
No.520357
>>520340>NFT vidyaNever, because then ownership can be formally transferred by design.
No.520358
>>520345the 20th century variant, sure. But that doesn't mean the theory can't be updated for 21st century material conditions.
No.520359
>>520355desperate for what? to lead his country into ruin?
No.520360
>>520345Yanis isn't a Marxist.
No.520361
>>520353Gw pencet X karena agak sussy.
No.520364
>>520359to slow down the expansion of NATO
No.520365
>>520356So this is all just a NATO trap? So sad then, Russiabros
No.520366
>>520345It got what wrong?
No.520367
>>520361I was quoting Putin about the USSR, he’s a shitty anticommunist
No.520370
>>520344People will have slightly less consumer goods but it'll be ok. It's true that war was plan B but they did gear their economy during 8 years for the consequences of this. Now they will have their victory, they'll spin it as good thing and they'll further decouple from western markets. The sanctions weren't be removed without unacceptable conditions anyway, better to go all in and evade them
No.520372
>>520365There was no "good option" for anyone involved. Ukraine is being sacrificed on the altar of the contradictions of capitalism. This hasn't even seriously benefitted NATO in any real way, they just haven't lost anything either.
No.520373
>>520201If you get picked up in a van like this, you're getting tetanus, hepatitis, and a staph infection at the blacksite.
No.520374
>>520369>Part of me hopes this will show liberals their total impotence. But we know that isn't true.ofc not
the secret is that
they love losing, because that means you are eternally right and an eternal victim(-sympathizer) No.520375
>>520371>bullshit jobs seems to defy the logic of capitalismHow so
No.520376
>>520369They'll never learn. The entirety of Trump's presidency was full of liberal protests like that, and it did jack shit to affect policy or anything.
No.520378
>>520371another moron appears
No.520379
>>520367>If Ukraine created by the Bolsheviks wants genuine de-communization, this will suit Russia, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Monday.>Now grateful descendants have demolished monuments to Lenin in Ukraine. This is what they call de-communization. Do you want de-communization? Well, this quite suits us. But you must not stop halfway. We are ready to show you what genuine de-communization means for Ukraine," Putin said in his address to the nation over the situation in Ukraine’s southeast.>The modern Ukraine was entirely created by Communist Russia, Russian President said. "The modern Ukraine was entirely and completely created by Russia, or rather, the Bolshevik, Communist Russia," the head of state said.>"This process started almost immediately after the 1917 Revolution; Lenin and his associates did it in a way, very brutal towards Russia itself - by separating, alienating parts of Russia’s own historic territories," Putin added.https://tass.com/politics/1407587 No.520380
>>520340>zoomerYou didn't get it, "zoomer".
No.520381
>>520375Capitalism is all about efficiency but it's just wasting money and labor on bullshit jobs
No.520383
>>520356Well yeah and disciplining NATO and prospects, because they will be next if they step out of line. But it's not like Russia forced this NATO did. Russia just played their hand best they could, which sure is still bourgeois war but I bet Russia was content keeping the territory dispute open and Ukraine off NATO while the US hegemony decays for a few more years.
>>520363AFAIK that's either giving microtransactions and underage gambling a new facade to hide form regulation not actually managing game ownership with blockhain
No.520384
>>520379Putin's words are the same as a white guard's during the revolution
No.520387
>>520381>Capitalism is all about efficiencysays who?
>it's just wasting money and laborit always had
>bullshit jobs[undefined made up term, akin to "icky"]
fuck off booklet
No.520388
>>520384Then his own (Russian) communists need to kill him and replace him in a proletarian revolution. We shouldn't be asking an imperialist power, NATO, to do it for us.
No.520390
How did Western intelligence predict this accurately? Russian intelligence must be leaky. I bet some Russian officers are getting fragged over this.
No.520391
>>520369These protests won't change anything. It's up to Putin on whether he shall stop it or not. Also the 2nd world has a disdain for 1st world radlibs.
No.520392
>>520388>Then his own (Russian) communists need to kill him and replace him in a proletarian revolution.This is what we have been saying all along.
>We shouldn't be asking an imperialist power, NATO, to do it for us.Nobody here has advocated for this.
No.520393
>>520388>We shouldn't be asking an imperialist power, NATO, to do it for us.Who in the hell said that?
No.520394
>>520374>>520376>>520377Well I guess we'll just end up watching the increasingly desperate absurdity of Zelensky begging for someone, anyone, to come to his rescue and libs painting their faces blue and yellow as the only form of "support."
No.520396
>>520390>How did Western intelligence predict this accurately? Russian intelligence must be leaky. I bet some Russian officers are getting fragged over this.Maybe it was all the troops moved into striking position that tipped them off.
No.520397
>>520390Counterintelligence hackers? Or using crystal balls that predict the future?
Whenever they hack someone Russia just dismissed it but whenever Russia hacks their systems they'll chimp out one and for all. Double standards, m8.
No.520398
>>520381these bullshit jobs serve to prop it up so that inefficiency is a necessary evil
No.520399
>>520394don't forget the patreon money they are sending
No.520400
>>520394Why are liberals so bad at doing praxis?
No.520402
>>520387>bullshit jobs>undefined made up termCope lmao
No.520404
>>520385
>Can you imagine? This isn't supposed to happen to us, we're white!
No.520406
>>520400>Why are liberals so bad at doing praxis?Praxis needs to be over by brunchtime. Not a lot of room in the schedule. In between brunch and soccer practice.
No.520407
>>520390The real question is why didn't they tell the Ukrainians as Zelensky said that the Russian's weren't going to invade a nearly 2 weeks ago
No.520408
>>520382>>520381>Capitalism is all about efficiency but it's just wasting money and labor on bullshit jobsThis doesn't seem particularly antithetical to capitalism, but i'll give the book a go one of these days. More theory can't hurt.
No.520412
>>520400Because they lack the power of material analysis. To them, looking like you're doing something is good enough, who cares if it actually affects the real world.
No.520413
>libs I know irl calling me a Russian shill because I want the West out of Ukraine
>Putinoids on leftypol call me a NATO shill because I want Putin to be replaced by a communist government
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
No.520414
>>520407Zelensky probably knew invasion was probable, but all the panicking was tanking the Ukrainian economy. Saying Russia wasn't going to invade was literal cope
No.520415
>>520407A pretty good number of people, including a lot of people here, said Russia wasn't going to invade. I didn't think he would till his full on schizo boomer rant.
No.520417
>>520403read graeber
just read the 300+ page doorstopper, do it faggot
No.520418
>>520413And other ways you narcissistically justify your pseudo-intellectual idiocy.
No.520419
>>520417Have you read it? Then you should have no problem defining it using your own words.
No.520420
>>520413"Centrist" woes, amirite bro???
No.520421
>>520198
>fierce resistance
<Russian tanks rolled through cities and villages seeing no resistance whatsoever
Day 1 objectives were outperformed, even, with Crimea front of Ukr forces collapsing and allowing Russia to take Cherson and Melitopol
No.520422
>>520408Graeber was an anthropologist more than an anarchist but he's smart
No.520424
>>520413And here we are stuck in the middle with you
No.520425
>>520395>Scorched earthWait till they blow up Chernobyl and blame the invaders.
>>520407Presumably because they had already decided to poke the bear(heh) until it mauled Ukraine and Zelenski was trying to play it down so it didn't look like they were asking for a fight.
No.520427
>>520422I love how nobody wants to claim that jackass.
No.520428
>>520413>Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.It's okay anon. You can be Stuck In The Middle With Me. :)
No.520429
>>520425Chernobyl's already been shelled.
No.520431
>>520425>Wait till they blow up Chernobyl and blame the invaders.There's a slight chance this already happened.
No.520432
Going from here to reddit, and from reddit to here is so fucking bizarre. Over there it looks like the ukrainians are mowing russians the fuck down, but here however, i see Zelensky basically on the verge of giving up.
How am i not meant to go full retard/schizo with all this information warfare?
No.520433
>>520419j-just read it
you need to read that 300+ page book before I can even explain a two-word term it's not my le job to educate you
No.520434
>>520416>wanting to have project wingman plot happening IRLSorry bro i'm not skilled enough in competitive genocide.
No.520435
>>778980
>The azov battalion hasn’t really been an independent entity for a while.
You mean besides the fact that it was a formally accepted volunteer force to the fucking national army?
No.520437
>>520432>redditUnlike /pol/, reddit doesn't have the balls to post dead soldier bodies so I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of there.
No.520438
>>520432Go check out Zelensky's twitter. Nobody is making anything up about him freaking the fuck out and saying it's ogre.
No.520439
>>520413>Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.AIN'T GOT NO GUN
AIN'T GOT NO KNIFE
DON'T YOU START NO FIGHT
No.520440
>>520427because he wasn't writing leftist theory
No.520441
So is this a happening ir is just media spectacle
No.520442
>>779190
>A scorched-earth policy is a military strategy that aims to destroy anything that might be useful to the enemy.
No.520443
You have to use a really broad definition of capitalism to call our existing system capitalism. A lot of shit changed from 19th/20th century that MLs basically don't really have any analysis of the current version of ""capitalism"". They still study the version of capitalism that Marx and lenin contended with.
No.520444
>>520441pure spectacle and leftypol is eating it up as always
No.520445
>>520422>Graeber was an anthropologist more than an anarchist but he's smartWasn't he by his own admission creating an 'anarchist anthropology'? He was always very well known in the social movements and projects near to him, I think most would consider him more an anarchist than an anthropologist.
No.520447
Zelensky should give it up already. It's over. People are dying.
No.520448
Oh lol, Ukrops already claim that Russia uses "mobile crematoriums" to hide the corpses. Fucking hell, why do they love to lie so much? It's comical. And also proves that the lack of verifiable corpses is the surest proof that something didn't happen.
No.520449
>>520430it really does look like a dinosaur
No.520450
>>520444Dead soldiers are staged! This is a media movie!
No.520451
>>520441It’s an actual happening but leftypol is eating it up as spectacle because people here have never been in a fist fight let alone a war
No.520452
>>520432selective censorships as well as massive spread of fake news can make losses into wins, events that never happen real just by common sense, this is what happen in social media, total filtering control.
No.520453
>>520430Putin’s a cipher, he moves the dialectic forward
No.520455
Is it true radiation has leaked from Chernobyl?
No.520456
>>520400It's because they're so far removed from material analysis they end up believing "views" or "words" are like magic. It's no real surprise that shit like "The Law of Attraction" for libs and Sovereign Citizens for Cons has become a legitimate thing adjacent to each group. Because at the end of the day their premise isn't too far from basic liberalism: namely that society is based off laws and rights and ideals and not simply whoever has the bigger stick. It's why Sovereign Citizens can keep going despite it
never once working for anyone. Despite video after video of idiots getting pulled over and saying "I'm not driving drunk, I'm travelling" only to get brutalized by the cops. It's because they think that this liberal shit is real, and that a mere elaboration of terms can somehow stop the people with all the guns if they want something you have.
No.520458
>>520455They blew up a waste storage facility
No.520459
>>520432To be fair, there's a ton of disinfo on both sides. The Ukrainians are probably putting up a better fight than what's being shown here, but obviously, they're gonna focus on every little success in the face of the mountain of losses they're sustaining..
No.520460
>>520436Lmao what strawman? You lot are always going on about how Putin pursuing Russia's Great Power ambitions is somehow going to give us communism. Even if you think multipolarity is a necessary prerequisite for socialist revolution to happen (it isn't), that at best makes Putin a useful idiot to us who is helping our cause literally by accident and in spite of his actual intentions.
No.520461
>>520443capitalism is dead guys
just ignore all the capitalists
No.520462
>>520451 - unlike me, a rugged war veteran who's only posting on leftypol to laugh at weenies
No.520463
>>520457It’d just be based if leftypol finally dumped the “lefty” part of their name and admitted what they really are after this shit
No.520464
>>520449>it really does look like a dinosaurIt's not a dinosaur?
No.520467
>>520438>Nobody is making anything up about him freaking the fuck out and saying it's ogre.That's not what quite what i was getting at. More like the contrast in narrative in so great it sometimes feels hard knowing what the fuck really is going on. If i didn't use this place i'd be like:
>Haha, ukrainians really are BTFOing those ruskies. No.520468
>>520441Unless Putin sends a miniaturized nuclear submarine into my bathtub while I'm washing myself and torpedoes my ass to smithereens then it's not happening.
No.520469
>>520445>anarchist anthropologyimo anthropology would be the focus of that statement, and some people don't like it, especially some types on this board
No.520470
>>520458Can we expect long term ecological damage?
No.520472
>>520443>You have to use a really broad definition of capitalism to call our existing system capitalism.generalized commodity production
There, I used 3 words. Feudalism never had that.
No.520473
>>520430are you fucking retarded sabocat? He had said yesterday that he'll denazify the region as max as possible
No.520474
>>520462Lmao I’ve never been in war either, difference is I don’t celebrate watching proles die and imperialist wars break out because they’re happening thousands of miles away and I can “own libs” by celebrating them
I would imagine if the kindly Vladimir Ilyich were still alive he’d have half this board shot for chauvinism
No.520475
>>520389Ha, you can faintly see it turn around after the explosion, it's the same one coming towards the camera at the end
No.520476
>>520470Impossible to see, always in motion the future is
But war has always been ecological devastating, so make of that what you will
No.520478
>>520474>I would imagine if the kindly Vladimir Ilyich were still alive he’d have half this board shot for chauvinism>Shoot people for laughing at people dieingI kneel ethics-sama.
No.520479
>>520443>You have to use a really broad definition of capitalism to call our existing system capitalismHOMELESS PEOPLE SLEEPING IN FRONT OF EMPTY HOUSES BOUGHT FOR INVESTMENTSHere are my 11 words.
No.520480
>>520473He also said he would decommunize it, and blamed the evil bolsheviks for oppressing poor Russia by granting Ukraine autonomy and extra territory within the USSR. See
>>520379 No.520482
>>520460>more strawmenyawn
No.520485
>>520482Feel free to clarify your position then. Why do you support Putin?
No.520486
>>520475Driver probably shat fucking neutronium after that
No.520489
>>520470ecosystem is doomed either way
>>520480the 'decommunize' thing was mostly a nationalist joke about how removing Lenin statues means you deserve to be removed by Russia. but it's also anticommunist yes
No.520490
>>520485Inb4 either
>He’s based and makes libs seetheOr
>Uhhhh it’s a strawman to say I support someone I’ve been cheering for the past two days No.520491
>>520430How is he going to decommunise Ukraine when there are 0 ethnic Ukrainians that support anything left of Hyperborean Paleo-Ultranationalism?
Its a completely meaningless statement, de-nazifing Ukraine has actual weight to it.
No.520493
>>520477>He doesn't even consider himself to be a serious anarchist What does it mean to he a 'serious anarchist' are you saying one is only a 'serious anarchist' when read on some old theory?
No.520494
>>520441It's hard to tell what the reality of the situation is when glowie-aligned media is constantly manufacturing consent for war by presenting half-truths as facts.
No.520495
>>520379Putin is a conservative?! Are we getting too cocky bros???
No.520496
>>520492USA no longer GOTH
No.520497
I thought Communism was an economic system? I didn't know it meant blindly supporting Russia like a sports team.
No.520498
>>520495Putin's thought is very in line with classic tsarist/white policy of "One indivisible Russia". They typically didn't recognize any other country like Ukraine, Finland, Georgia, etc.
No.520499
>>520416Rolling for Houthis seizing the opportunity to seize Saudi oil
No.520500
>>520497It does when you’re a sad lifeless Western zoomer with literally 0 hope of overthrowing your bourgeois state and 0 willpower to do anything to oppose it so you have to hope and pray that anticommunist porkies from the East save you from your problems in life somehow
No.520502
>>520489Why you fucks can't even understand the joke properly?
Decommunize is a joke about how removing Lenin statues, who granted Ukraine statehood, is a very surreal and schizo thing. Also, it's one more proof that to resist NATO and to denazify Ukraine Russia will have to go through denazification of itself by purging it's fake history created in 1980-90s
No.520507
>>520497Communism is not just an economic system whereby the workers own the means of production, it's also a political system, as well as a social system. No classes will exist in this society and leaders get to sleep with their subordinates. Everyone's going to be treated equally, and those with problematic thoughts are sent to reeducation centers. The state acts as a moderator for the society by enacting laws, possessing police and military forces, and do anything related to societal moderation just like other governments.
No.520508
>>520493Dude is literally saying he doesn't see himself as a scholar of anarchism and he's just an anarchist with a small a. He likes the idea of anarchism but he's not that committed to it or any anarchist movement. He even promoted electoral politics which is basically a taboo thing for anarchists. He also said that the state is not actually a bad thing in that book.
No.520509
>>520503>They are rumored to have been sent primarily to deal with Azov/Neo-nazis:lol based
No.520510
Remember how Ukrops were claiming that civilian casualties in Donbass were caused by rockets heat-seeking onto civilian buildings' conditioners? Remember those animals explaining away all and every crime they committed?
No.520512
>>520503There's no way Ukraine has any witches on their side powerful enough to defeat Allah (SWT). It's over.
No.520513
>>520500They're not even communists at this point, they're anti-american.
No.520514
>>520505FRANCIS FUKUYAMA ON SUICIDE WATCH
No.520515
>>520491>How is he going to decommunise Ukraine when there are 0 ethnic Ukrainians that support anything left of Hyperborean Paleo-Ultranationalism?Lmao do you actually believe this? You can't on the one hand say that Ukrainian proles are terrorized by their Nazi government but also thay they're all Nazis themselves. Moreover it's a ridiculous chauvinist statement to paint an entire nationality as all having the same opinions.
>Its a completely meaningless statementIt pretty clearly indicates the actual class and ideological character of Putin's government.
No.520516
>>520497So true, not wanting the world most powerful neoliberal empire to expand has nothing to do with communism.
No.520517
>>520503>mfw Ukrainian nazis fear the ChechenTheir propaganda about Chechens is playing dirty tricks with them
No.520518
>>520477Dunno much about him but he's right that it's kinda cringe how marxists are being driven by heroic thinkers.
No.520522
>>520513Anti-Americanism is a necessary part of being a communist in 2021. Communism will never come to fruit without the dissolution of the USA.
No.520524
Missile attacks against Kiev
No.520527
Aside from stabilizing multipolarity, I don't see how this war benefit proles, maybe for those from third world countries allied with Russia. First world and Russian proles suffer from increasing inflation and fuel prices, whereas Ukrainian proles and separatists will most likey lose their self determination and possibly their lives. I do enjoy seeing NATO get invalidated, but the support I see for Russia on this board is very uncritical.
No.520528
>>520515>You can't on the one hand say that Ukrainian proles are terrorized by their Nazi government but also thay they're all Nazis themselves. How is that a contradiction, fascism is litterally all about making the working class support interests counter to own.
No.520529
>>520515dude, you seriously think putin would gulag commies in ukraine? you're so clueless man
it's far more probable that he would use ukr commie party as he uses kprf
commies are synonymous with russian chauvinism in a mind of a proud ukrainian anyway
not without a reason either tho
No.520530
>>520527The only good thing about this war is that it gives NATO a YUGE blow.
No.520534
>>520527>I don't see how this war benefit prolesRussians won't be blown up by neo nazi battalions with legal impunity anymore
No.520535
>>520530would have been a bigger blow if putin just stayed in donbas tbh
No.520537
>>520527>I don't see how this war benefit prolesIt doesn't, we're all here for the pure spectacle.
No.520540
>>520530What has NATO lost? Ukraine wasn't a NATO country, it's serving their literal only purpose NATO had with them right now acting as a meat shield.
No.520541
this board is cringe as fuck as usual
No.520542
>>520527It delays the creation of a global American slave empire by 1 year, that is good enough for me.
No.520543
>>779304
Who said that? You tards just keep coming into the thread just to go:
WHY DO SOME OR PERHAPS MOST OF YOU HOLD A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN ME?
I HOPE YOUR DOG GETS RUN OVER AND YOUR MOM DIES IN A FIRE!
And then you come here all coyly"
>Why do they persecute me so?
No.520545
>>520472How would you describe the feudalistic mode of production?
No.520546
>>520534Azov was actively attacking Russian positions? I though they were focused on the separatist regions.
No.520547
>>520443Capitalism (Capitalist-Imperialism really) is the current world-system, not an abstract concept you mong.
No.520548
>>520529>it's far more probable that he would use ukr commie party as he uses kprfSo in other words he will totally neuter them and turn them into controlled opposition that's totally incapable of actually resisting the interests of the Russian ruling class or threatening their grip on power. Surely this will advance the cause of socialism, which is something Putin is in favour of apparently.
No.520549
>>520540>What has NATO lostNot yet. This is just the first of a series of take-backs by Russia as it cleans its rightful sphere of influence from Western decadence.
No.520550
>>520371what the hell he died???
No.520551
i just hope the music that comes out of this sounds good
[spoiler]probably won't top the balkan wars though[/spoiler]
No.520552
>>520549How? How has NATO intended anything at all to happen with Ukraine except turn it into Afghanistan 2 European Boogaloo?
No.520553
what do the communists in ukraine think?
No.520556
>>520551guess they changed the spoiler tag
No.520557
>>520552They got rid of INF treaty for a reason
No.520558
>>520522I can understand that from non-americans. But from americans themselves its amusing.
No.520559
SO MANY QUESTIONS
is this even relevant in the class struggle? like, is anyone involved even remotely leftist?
why are Donetsk and Lugansk called people's republic?
to me it's nazis on ukranian side, and big bourgie mobsters on the russian side.
No.520560
https://twitter.com/pussyrrriot/status/1496960417129713667?cxt=HHwWhsCyna7kosYpAAAAHave you guys bought your #PussyRiot.TM Ukrainian flag NFT's to support Hohol and Women's rights?
No.520562
>>520546Are the separatists not Russian speakers?
No.520563
>>520549This is going to be the start of a breakdown between the US and EU.
No.520564
>>520477Funny how Graeber fought tooth and nail to impose his vision of a clown car decentralized direct democracy on OWS but then is like "Bro I'm not an authority or anything!"
No.520566
>>520559All I know is apparently in the “People’s Republics” they killed the communist commander who tried taking charge
Source: Leftypol
No.520567
>>520555
>Switzerland
Never happening. They're neutral and very proud of that
No.520568
>>520559It's the first war directly related to Inter-Imperialist conflict on the European conflict since WW2.
I.e view the methods of the Bolsheviks, the German Communists and the French Communists during WW1
No.520570
>>520548Putin will talk bad shit about communists always, at every opportunity. Meanwhile, the state apparatus tries really hard to appeal to Stalin-loving population and coopt it. Same will spill into Ukraine. Holodomor myths will die, myths about USSR killing gazillion kulaks will die, all those Memorial shitters will be shut up, there will be no more fakes from the archives. Denazification will mean that the source of liberal/nazi propaganda against USSR gets excised, meaning communists WORLDWIDE will have easier time with spreading communism.
No.520571
>>520564 (me)
and yes wrecking every scent of organization and leadership in a movement is taking a leadership role with zero accountability or democracy
No.520572
>>520552If Russia does not intervene chances are Ukraine is currently in the NATOsphere by now
No.520574
libs literally think everyone in russia is evil
No.520576
>>520561Is that Odessa? I was just watching that cam a while back.
No.520577
>>520553they are banned and would not support this NATO militarization of Russian territory
No.520581
>>520503aren't chechens a bunch of butchers
christ, wtf are they doing
No.520582
Anons Russia has handed NATO a L! Based Putin has caused the adding of NATO members like Sweden and Finland soon! They will also see a huge NATO build up on Russia's borders. And best of all the sanctioning of Russia to death. Thank you based Putin you did it NATO defeated.
No.520583
>>520565Tomorrow Taiwan
Next week temporarily occupied territories of Korea
No.520584
>>520575This is getting sad holy fuck
No.520585
>>520572Yes. That is the point.
Russia is needing to make a huge expenditure just to keep the status quo while NATO countries are expending…what exactly?
No.520587
>>520574I'm in a non-political group chat and one autist in the chat was going on about how Russians all deserve to be killed, I felt like I was listening to Agent Kochinski.
No.520588
>>520537Correct.
I can't bring myself to defend Putin because everytime i think about this whole ordeal i still see him as a shitstain. Though my habbening lust altered my vision of reality for a few hours.
No.520589
>>520573That really happened? I thought that was a joke article.
Just racism towards russians
No.520590
>>520581I hope they butcher some neonazis
No.520592
>>520571>if you oppose authority you're authoritarianLmao
No.520593
>>520573wait, who is banning russian teams in csgo and why?
No.520594
>>520570Mate, creaming yourself over not genociding people and archives and such is not how we spread communism. It has literally 0 to do with spreading communism today. This is LARP.
No.520595
>>520582Real talk will this mean Russia bumrushes Finland and Sweden next?
Just Finland maybe?
No.520596
>>520559> like, is anyone involved even remotely leftist?no
Eastern Europe barely has any leftist movements, CPRF is Putin's puppet and controlled opposition
No.520597
>>520574>>520587That reminds me of libs saying that the DPRK and its population should be nuked because death would be better "than to live under a dictator"
No.520598
>>520567idk Allende anon (Are you actually Chilean / South-Americastani btw?) Burgoid psyops can literally fry peoples brains and make them believe literally anything.
A good chunk of our country's population believes that China is somehow going to launch a combined ground, Naval, Air invasion of Australia and are 'BUILDING BASES IN OUR BACKYARD' When China is in an entirely different fucking hemisphere then us.
All that burgoids would need to do in a cunt the size of switzerland is print 500BN burger-bux and have some Christian-Democrat glowies run a massive campaign about how vladolf putler is going to kill everyone and they will be begging to join
No.520600
>>520597They are the death cult they accuse others of.
No.520601
>>520416Rolling for the CPUSA to come to power ushering in an age of American Socialism
No.520602
>>520548I don't say he is a commie messiah
but you make it sound like he is some rabid anti-commie, which he is not
he is just a pragmatic bourgeois politician, quite a competent one, if I say so myself, serving the needs of his bourgeois state
No.520603
>>520594>communists not having to deal with gazillions dead under communism figures has nothing to with spreading communismYeah, buddy, suuuure. What next, you'll say that having factual proofs that USSR industry was strong and that capitalism in post-USSR lowered level of life significantly doesn't help you in any way?
No.520605
>Many analysts in Moscow thought the buildup was a bluff. Today: “Everything that we believed turned out to be wrong”; “I don’t understand the motivations, goals or possible results… What is happening is very strange.”https://nitter.net/antontroian/status/1496823707515379720#m>>520582yeah if he just stayed in donbass he actually would have btfo'd nato
No.520609
>>520605Sounds like Maskirovka worked like a fuckng charm
No.520610
>>520585Russia must actually fight back. That's the main point I'm conveying.
No.520611
>>520605as a Russian, I did not expect this shit whatsoever, I thought they will recognize DNR/LNR, make them new South Osetia and live happily ever after
No.520612
>>520582>Finland joining anythingNot happening. Sweden just poses as a neutral country. In any way, those two countries joining would result in Russia steamrolling them as well as the rest of Europe in case of a war.
No.520613
>>520596I thought Ukraine and Russia's population were full of communists.
if there's no leftist movements there where the first worker's state was formed, then I have no hope for this shithole of a planet
No.520614
>>520570>Denazification will mean that the source of liberal/nazi propaganda against USSR gets excisedLmao do you really think that Ukraine is the main source of liberal/Nazi propaganda against the USSR? Overthrowing the Ukrainian regime won't suddenly make Victims of Communism, RFE, Ukrop diaspora orgs, and every other CIA front suddenly dissappear. The only way this could benefit communists is by promoting multipolarity, and even then any benefit to us would be a side effect of Russia's actions and antithetical to their actual goals.
No.520615
>>520582And America is crumbling…
No.520616
Feels good to live in South America I guess.
No.520618
>>520599Is there any chance this could be white phosphorous? idk war shit
>>520611Yes I was reading some Russians who were saying the same thing, I thought so too, it actually made sense
No.520619
>>520563The latter would be pro-Russia. I bet it'll be the new Warsaw Pact.
Also regarding NATO I only hope that Olgino ramps up efforts again and this war continues up to 2024
No.520620
>>520610I'm not saying "russia shouldnt' defend itself"
I'm saying "Russia just had to expend a huge amount of military force that NATO effectively conjured up for free"
No.520621
Where did all these libs come from
No.520624
>>520616Lol no
As the usa loses its grip over the rest of the world, it will go back to its speciality: terrorizing latin america
No.520625
>>520595Predictions
1.
NATO will draw and damage Russian military capacity as much as possible, Afghanistan the shit out of them
2.
NATO will add members like Sweden and Finland
3.
Masses of troop's and weaponry sent to Romania, Poland, Hungary, the Baltics and the new members
4.
NATO Russia conflict odds increase
No.520626
>>520621>Where did all these libs come fromThey're always here. You just notice them more when it's a triggering topic.
No.520627
>>520613> I thought Ukraine and Russia's population were full of communists.HAHAHAHAHA
sorry, no, unless you consider a communist your typical Soviet-nostalgic grandma voting CPRF for pension money
lately, there has been a fresh wave of young leftists, as everywhere in the world, but for example LatAm countries are 100x more left in comparison
No.520629
>>520603Yes retard. These are not the reason people join orgs or the reasons people should join orgs for.
It literally has nothing to do with anything outside of your sad ebin internet debate bro larps or whatever. Grow up.
No.520630
>>520161I don't support Putin no, but Russia going against NATO is a good thing.
Ironically /pol/ supports Putin because he's fighting globohomo.
No.520632
>>520616For a brief moment, yes.
No.520633
>>520582Why would you join NATO at this point? All of that posturing over Ukraine and all they managed to do is send thoughts and prayers. Seems like a shitty deal.
No.520634
>>520621>>520623>>520626>everybody is a lib but me!grow up
No.520636
>>520614>Lmao do you really think that Ukraine is the main source of liberal/Nazi propaganda against the USSR? Overthrowing the Ukrainian regime won't suddenly make Victims of Communism, RFE, Ukrop diaspora orgs, and every other CIA front suddenly dissappear.It will 1) stop the archives from spouting fakes to prove all the glowies' claims 2) it will stop glowies from having a russian-speaking and Russia-adjacent talkers in Russian internet space. They were already pushed out, but now with denazification in effect they'll get outright banned ala Memorial
No.520638
>>520624they can't even coup us anymore
No.520639
>>520574If they're not why did they refuse socialism and invited porkies
No.520640
>>520621Because its mostly Americans that are awake right now.
No.520641
>>520602>you make it sound like he is some rabid anti-commie, which he is notIn the 90s he said that Russia needed a Pinochet-style dictatorship to protect the markets and keep the communists out of power.
No.520642
>>520582more delusional angloid cope
No.520643
every new conflict, skirmish, border clash, etc you get bombarded with a stream of reuploaded war footage suddenly falsely reposted as what is going on right now. half the stuff on here today is from 2015 conflict but i evn saw someone post a video of Indian troops dubbed russian
No.520644
>>520629>"Culture War" has no bearing on reality, retard!Ideological war is an important war. Again, look at Xi showing huge interest in ideological warfare and who attacks liberal and fascist and general anticommunist viewpoints, including their historical "facts".
No.520645
>>520602>you make it sound like he is some rabid anti-commieHuh, the president sabotaging communist parties and sending communists to jail isn't a "rabid anti-commie".
No.520647
>>520621>Liberalism is….is when not worshipping the based anticommunist reactoid in an imperialist proxy war with other anticommunist reactoidsAnother one for the shot without a burial pile
No.520648
>>520198
That is a KA52. KA50 looks very different.
No.520649
>>520573hltv is pretty fucking funny but you gotta wade through the filth to find it. Luckily the ukranian players (including the best player in the world) were bootcamping in poland.
>>520593There hasn't. Rumor that some teams have asked players not to comment were also proven untrue.
No.520650
>>520646Wait til you get to the pump.
No.520651
>>520463dude its leftypol, most people on here don't leave their house and haven't talked to a female in real life for years
No.520654
>>520640prefacing by noting I'm not American or European, but in my experience European leftists are more likely to demonise Putin than American leftists
No.520655
>>520559>why are Donetsk and Lugansk called people's republic?The early involvement of communists and Nazbols I imagine. Communists are all purged by now and most of the non-compliant Nazbols have been removed.
No.520656
>>520650rarely use my car because I live in Chicago :^)
No.520658
>>520643Yeah we might not have an accurate picture of what's happening on the ground until next week.
No.520659
>>520646Falling stock market prices as well as the increase in prices for certain stocks like oil. ECONOPOLITICS IS A THING
No.520660
>>520636Somehow anti-communist propagandists were doing just fine when there was a pro-Russian government in Ukraine. It's not has if Putin cares about countering anti-communist myths anyway, he peddles them himself.
No.520661
>>520643Welcome to the fog of war.
No.520662
Russian communists are loyal to Putin. They're controlled opposition.
No.520663
>>520659good thing I have good portion of my portfolio in oil :^)
No.520666
>>520665wtf does this mean… like in terms of substance?
No.520671
>>520660They weren't tearing down lenin statues and publishing Nazi apologia with a putin friendly government in charge dipshit
No.520672
>>520660Russia itself changed over the last decade, ffs. US becoming openly hostile forced Russia into banning liberals, who were the biggest pillar of Russian anti-communism.
No.520673
>>520666it's a response to that "if I were your mommy, Mr. Putin" vid
No.520675
>>520635<Donetsk Theater<Combat operations are of an emphatically “constraining” nature. The limited attack on Volnovakha is intended to threaten not only Mariupol (in fact, its liberation is of no strategic importance now, as it will certainly be surrendered by the enemy when the troops from the 1st Theater move on to Berdyansk and Zaporizhia), but more importantly, to threaten a frontal break towards the rapidly advancing “Crimean” formations from the west. This threat requires the enemy to buy in and prevents the release of troops that would otherwise have been thrown into recreating the “Crimean Front”.AAAAAHHH Tukhachevsky bros we've been vindicated
FUCK Yezov and FUCK Stalin
No.520681
>>520680post the actual thing, you faggot
No.520682
>>520677
Bernie finally saying something sensible?
No.520683
>>520677
>Vladimir put is threatening to destroy Ukrainian democracy
>Ukrainian democracy
That's a good one
No.520684
>>520677
>>520677
Don't care what a Biden cuck says
No.520685
>>520598>South-AmericastaniYeah, Brazilian.
Idk Australianon, they've always been high up in the mountains chilling, didn't come out even in WW2. Why would they now
No.520687
>>779458
I'm not defending shit, I hope both of them get destroyed and China liberates Taiwan.
No.520688
>>779458
Hi Agent Kochinski.
No.520690
>>779458
Don't care what a Biden cuck says
No.520691
>>520618That does actually look like WP.
No.520692
>>779458
cope mutt, Russia will destroy all NATO Dogs
No.520693
>>520681ya and get this site shut down
No.520695
>>520660Also, remember Kuropates? Remember that famous in the 90s shit which was used to prove that communists were killing jews in WW2? Well guess fucking what, NOBODY is using this shit anymore because Belarus did an official investigation into that shit and outlawed it as NAZI APOLOGIA. And now NOBODY uses it. Well, guess what will happen if the pro-american anticommunist orgs suddenly happen to come under occupation by Belarus or Russia who get hammered by the West as inheritors of USSR's totalitarianism?
No.520696
>>779458
>laziest strawman ever
>calls other's opinions simple
Wew
No.520697
I support Ukraine, the side without capitalist oligarchs.
No.520699
>>520595>>520605>>520612>>520615>>520633>>520642>Nooooooo how dare you state that NATO is consolidating themselves for more encirclement! >Noooooooo how dare you question if Russia has put themselves in good positionYou guys keep thinking the war hawks of NATO will continue to cuck out a lot of underestimating towards them. Our assessment of NATO shouldn't include feelings ok? If they have a strength you don't all of a sudden become pro-nato pointing that strength out.
No.520700
>>520697I don't think that's a thing
No.520701
>>520697>supporting western degeneracy kys
No.520702
>>520697>I support Ukraine, the side without capitalist oligarchs.You know Zelensky is the stooge of media mogul oligarch who owned the channel that produced the show where they made him president right?
No.520703
>>520694Apparently it's some idiot that let himself get captured by Iranians
No.520704
>>520647Liberalism is taking the liberal media narrative about Putin and Russia hook line and sinker. This invasion is literally a good thong for both ukranians and russians and it comes at a perfect time when NATO can't do shir about it
No.520705
>>520701>muh degeneracygo back
No.520706
>>520701>western degeneracyyou have to go back.
No.520709
>>779458
(You)
No.520710
>>520654Putin should be demonised.
Americans might be more likely to support Putin, but they are also more likely to want to turn the Russian invasion of Ukraine into WW3.
No.520711
>>520699American weapons will be proven inferior, NATO response will be proven weak, and Europe will continue to trade with Russia in opposition to US and UK dreams and hopes. Just like UK ran away from EU, NATO can similarly fall apart as a result of tensions.
No.520712
>>520704>This invasion is literally a good thong for both ukranians and russiansas long as the war is kept outside cities, sure
No.520713
>>520711why do you still think nato is going to do anything besides sanctions
No.520715
>>520691>dumping war crime powder directly straight onto kiev for your first attack… 😶
No.520716
>>779478
They literally are the biggest force in the way of actual progressive developments around the world
No.520717
>>520714What's the yellow and blue?
No.520718
>>520705>>520706cope, Libshits will face the wall when marxism-leninism makes a comeback
No.520719
>>520697I can't think that this isn't bait
No.520720
>>520664last person that should be talking
No.520721
>Look away for one (1) minute
>Thread flooded with new replies
Last day I follow this shit
No.520723
>>520444>pure spectacleactually this is what debord would call a "concentrated spectacle" get it right
No.520724
MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD MAKE A NEW THREAD
No.520725
>>520714Liberals really out here making flags that look like smallpox blankets
No.520727
>>520718>when marxism-leninism makes a comebackit wont under putin, thats for sure
No.520728
>>520721See you tommorow in thread 62.0
No.520729
You think some dude at Langley is monitoring this thread?
No.520730
>>779509
quit baiting
No.520731
>>520712It is. This is a clean military operation. No civilians are being targeted. All bombings are to disable Ukranian military capability to prevent further bloodshed. Remember Russia took Crimea bloodlessly in a popular referendum and the west still lost their shit.
No.520732
leftypol be like how many baits can i take today
No.520733
>>779509
Nah. They were both justified.
No.520734
>>520726
i saw a shoehorned ukraine flat on another board. thought was funny
No.520736
Nothingburger and fizzle gang must feel stupid as fuck right now tbh
No.520737
>>779504
>Implying it’s just Russia
>Implying it’s progressive if the poor, gay minorities don’t get abused for being gay and/or minorities, but it’s still okay for them to be poor
No.520738
>>520729It can be somewhere else and not necessarily in langley proper, but if they aren't then they're shit at their job - and they're too overfunded to be
that bad at it.
No.520739
>>520714>>520734Ukrainians confirmed as massive faggots.
No.520742
>>520736t. happooner
literally nothing has happened
No.520743
>>520729Probably Ft. Meade
I'll see you lads in the REX-84 camps
I love America, I love democracy. :)
No.520744
>>520729If true, he'd probably be laughing too much to breathe.
And i don't mean laughter in the:
>haha, they're so funny kind.
No.520746
>>520739>lgbtq are… LE BADok putler
No.520747
>>520727doesn't matter, what matters is that western degeneracy will be crushed, now fuck off libshit
No.520748
>>779521
Quit baiting
No.520749
>>779509>>779521>UN found no evidence of chemical weapons beforehandHell yeah I'm replying to this delicious bait
>>520741yea it just looks a little bit more smoky but otherwise very similar imo
No.520750
>>520747cope, reactionaries will always lose, you will never turn back the clock
No.520751
>>779521
>t. Colin Powell
Thought you were with your bud Reagan now?
No.520752
>>520746>AIDS and mentall illness is…. Le good!terminal cancer
No.520755
>>520726
Imagine honoring indigenous people not by giving them infrastructure or taking away oil pipelines polluting their land, but with knockoff smallpox blankets
No.520756
>>520752vagina aids is real too you fucking faggot
No.520757
>>779541
Hi Agent Kochinski.
No.520758
>>779478>>520714The "support" for the most part is Critical. Doubt anyone has delusions that Putin is going to re-establish the USSR or save the world.
As far as I'm concerned, the only "good guys" that should be supported in this conflict are the DPR and the LPR. Don't get it twisted, Putins a reactionary bastard, and his invasion has gone too far, but his actions have exposed the world to the paper tiger that is NATO.
>>520742>Ukraine has been invaded>two new independent nations have been recognised by Russia, Cuba, and Venezuala. >NATO has been exposed for weaklings. >Azov Battalion is getting BTFO. <i-it's a nothing burger. No.520759
>>520618I think that's a plane getting shot down.
No.520760
>Using "le" even ironically
Eat a bullet, all of you
No.520761
>>520750COPE. NO ONE CAN REVERSE THE FALL OF THE BURGER EMPRE.
No.520762
>>779541
Ukraine literally expressed a desire to join NATO and get nuclear weapons
And the DPR and LPR are just as heckin cute and valid as Taiwan, Israel, South Korea, and Kosovo.
No.520763
>>779521>>520752feds going out in full force with bait right now
No.520764
>>520756Nature has a way shutting that shit down
No.520765
>>779541
We support the invasion because it deposes a Western fascist regime, not because of ethnicity bullshit.
No.520766
>>520750lol no, you think the average working class likes transhumanists who parade about in the street? Bourgeoisie degeneracy at its peak
No.520767
>>520759That's what I thought too. Those big central fireballs look like that's what they are.
No.520768
No one here is defending Putin
No one here is defending NATO
Everyone's sure the other is in fact defending one
All anyone supports is the weakening of NATO imperialism
Thread after thread of fake debates on fake positions no one actually holds
No.520770
>>779541
>preventing a hostile state from obtaining nuclear weapons.
Lol at thinking this bullshit had to do with the invasion
No.520771
>>520635>southfrontRemember when the free world deleted their youtube channel for literally no reason lol
No.520772
>>779541
Who cares about justified? I think it’s in my interests and that’s good enough for me.
(Also, the WMDs were a fabricated story and everyone knew it)
No.520774
>>520764did aids is stop ?????
No.520776
>>520746Thank god I though I saw a p there and I went all "Agent Kochinsky is that you!"
Thankfully it was my mind playing tricks on me
No.520778
>>779549
Steamrolling Eastern European German-dominated puppet states as Russia is always a fun game in Kaiserreich.
No.520779
>>520704>How the fuck can you say taking the Sudetenland is wrong!? They are Germans anyway, and Germany is an enemy of the liberal imperialist United States and British Empire and French Empire; Germans should and MUST be united and Germany is not imperialist anyway since 1918You right now
No.520781
>>779541
Hello liberal.
No.520785
>>520779Back to r/worldnews idiot
No.520786
>>520767>>520764I would actually point out that WP does have
legal use as smoke round too, and that it's not impossible for it to be on a plane for that purpose.
No.520787
>>520760>Eat a bullet, all of youCope
No.520788
>Macron says that Zelensky asked him to convey a proposal for negotiations to Putin
No.520789
>>520729If not Langley, then some privately contracted dude is.
No.520790
>>520768I critically support Putin. cope and seethe faggot.
No.520792
>>520768But fuck tons of people actually are supporting Putin and are calling anyone that isn’t celebrating this imperialist proxy war a liberal?
No.520793
>>779578
>NATO encirclement and repeated provocations are irrelevant
You can’t be this ignorant
No.520794
Ukraine’s military budget is less than the combined budgets of LAPD and LASD by about $800 million, in case anyone is wondering
No.520796
>>520768Damn, another based post from Bolshevik flag, you’re becoming one of my favorite posters on this board!
No.520797
>>520792Stop amplifying them by bringing it up on the constant. How many times must you repeat this? you're getting boring.
No.520798
>>520785>Oh no, he won’t shill for my heckin based wholesome anticommunist government!<Guess he’s from le reddit spookKys chauvinist
I fucking hate this timeline
Anarchists voting for war credits
“Leninists” shilling for imperialist proxy wars
90% of the west deserves to die, 99% of online leftists
No.520800
>>520768Binary brain strikes again
No.520801
>>779578
>ensure regional stability
>prevent harbouring of international terrorists that target every western country
Wow, those worked out great
No.520802
>>520779Except the western backed Ukrainian Nazi state is being ousted by Putin as we speak. This is the opposite of Nazi Germany. Putin is preventing a full blown NATO balkalization of Russia. History will remember this favorably. Nobody will ask what seething moralizing libs think.
No.520803
>>520651People who have done such serve the capitalist system unfortunately. Laws of balance
No.520804
>>520797I don’t give a fuck what you think, lefty/pol/ subhuman
>Oh you’re getting boringLeninhat had the right idea of you people
No.520805
>>520768The irony is that for anybody who doesn't actually live in Russia or Ukraine, these debates are pretty much entirely theoretical. There are people who shill Putin and people who don't, but the position of both in regards to Western involvement is emphatic opposition. For non-Russian/Ukrainian communists at this point there are only two questions which truly distinguish the glow from the non glow.
>Do you oppose Western involvement in Ukraine?>Will you work constructively with people who have different opinions about Russia and Putin than you do?If your answer to both those questions is yes, then you are on the right side.
No.520806
>>520792He’s a cipher, a nonentity, it’s more important what a Russian victory would do against the current Neoliberal order and how reducing the pressure of imperial hegemony allows for progressive groups within counterhegemonic reactionary countries to assert themselves over the national bourgeoisie
No.520807
>>779578
Necessary actions =/= wars for oil. You think UA is in the Middle East?
No.520808
>>520804you're more than welcome to leave, anon.
No.520809
>>520641He's not a follower of chilies economic and political model tho his economic and political policy seems to have shifted to mussolinism especially after he read a bunch of park chung hee history books to learn economic and political lessons from
Of course this is still anti communist but if you are gonna criticize putin point out he's aa dirigsme fascist instead of a neoliberal Chile dictator
No.520810
>>779521
Here have a (you), happy now?
No.520811
>>520804Okay so leave and let the adults speak. Your tantrums are not constructive.
No.520813
>>520806Putin is part of the current neoliberal order.
Dude literally said the only kind of criminal forces are the ones that target private property lmao.
No.520815
>>520790Critical support isn't actual support* what I meant is no one actually supports* Putin
I'm sure everyone critically supports putin including me. The issue is people being mad with the critical part of the support. Oh you critical of Putin seems we have a NATO shill on our hands lads or you support Putin and aren't critical enough. This is the unnecessarily argument I'm trying to stop.
No.520816
>>779611
Ok Putin wants Ukraine's oil, happy now?
No.520817
>>520813I don't think you know what neoliberal means - it isn't a synonym for liberal or capitalist.
No.520818
>>779578
>prevent a hostile actor from using nuclear weapons to threaten their neighbours and the United States
I wish Iraq had had nuclear weapons so it could have bombed the fuck out of your invasion
>ensure regional stability
The west has worked massively specifically to prevent the stabilization of the Middle east
>prevent harbouring of international terrorists that target every western country
America created the terrorists, you incredible cretin
I don't know if this is bait but it's sad to know people out there think like this
No.520821
>>520811He also heavily nationalized the private sector too
And his economic policy is centralized. This is not neoliberal this is dirigsme
No.520823
>>779611
only for a capitalist
you'll never be a capitalist
No.520825
>>520815Spooked. You know I'm Russian. I speak the language and know the post Soviet history of the country so I automatically understand this conflict 100 times better than you and only come here to laugh at spooked libs losing their mind
No.520826
>>779578
stop baiting
ukrain happening: caused by nato expansion,
iraq invasion: weapons of mass destruction not found
No.520827
>>520824damn Bronies getting into this too
No.520829
>>520811>AdultsYou’re literally a bunch of degenerate teenagers in a board that named itself after /pol/ celebrating a war you will never participate in pretending to be “leninists” while you spit on Lenin’s name
No.520830
Make a new thread before this thread becomes autolocked
No.520831
>>779606
>uhhh I know we destroyed your country and killed and displaced your people, but at least we thought we were right!
The burger entitlement, holy shit. You deserved 9/11
No.520832
Why are there shittons of King Lears here
No.520834
>>520805Here’s the thing, even if Putin achieves his objectives for Ukraine and pushes our NATO, it still makes him unpopular, perhaps even more than before, and thus increases the likelihood of a progressive successor force
No.520835
>>520832King Lear is based and you're all a bunch of chauvinists simping for fascist russia to own the libs.
No.520836
>>520824New thread:
>>779640>>779640>>779640>>779640>>779640>>779640>>779640>>779640>>779640 No.520837
>>520829Find another place to chimp out or take your meds schizo faggot.
No.520839
>>520825Что-то не верится. Когда твои родаки свалили страну?
No.520840
>>779641
They didn’t. It was a lie and this is documented
No.520841
>>520828Thanks I knew I missed one
No.520842
>>520835>you're all a bunch of chauvinists simping for fascist russia to own the libs.You're a lib.
No.520843
>>520836Finally. I'm gonna sleep now. You fags better not be eating bait tomorrow xoxo.
No.520844
>>520792not celebrating. war is shit. but there already was war. 15,000 were killed since 2014 and the positions staked out by US-Ukriane were that their only intent was to never implement the Minsk agreements and forcibly retake DPR/LPR, which means current and ongoing war. And next that Russia's main concern of Ukraine joining NATO was simply non-negotiable (a "non-starter") which tells Russia the US is going to absorb it into NATO at some point, which will ultimately lead to confrontation and war.
War was here already (DPR/LPR) and further war was coming (constant NATO provocations/confrontations on the border). Russia chose to end the war quickly and decisively, rather than fight it sporadically for years or decades.
War sucks though and it doesn't always go how planners think it will (see Iraq). If this escalation leads to further escalations it could wind up in a worse place than before.
No.520845
>>520843Good night from the afternoon
No.520846
>>520834>it still makes him unpopularwith who? russians? doubt it
russians just want this ukrainian shitshow to end, if putin manages to achieve this with a relative minor blood he will be more popular than ever
No.520847
>>520846Not really. Because guess what, on top of sanctions, there’s the expense of this whole military venture when Russians outside of the two capitals live like shit. And this time there’s no gayrope to point to and blame
No.520848
>>520601Granted, but Haz will be Sultan
No.520851
>>520850Man dude is reduced to just a t-shirt, sad as hell.
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