>>538755Unless the cease fire happens it's only a matter of time.
And then the Ukrainian army will take it again.
And it'll go back and forth for a while.
>>538761Pog, then it's actually true.
Finally i should say.
Thanks anon.
>>538778Oh for fucks sake.
What I'm saying is that the ukrainian army will not let civilians go through the russian battlefront in order to flee the city, dumbass.
Not that people were already leaving.
Now no one is leaving, and the ukrainian army will make sure it keeps that way.
>>538796>It literally has no reason to do it, you are just dehumanizing UkrainiansAzov retards would like a talk with you.
This is already happening in Mariupol.
>>538752One could say it would be a
Turkey in the freezer
>>538802the next few days will prove very decisive the in history of leftypol. If Putin pulls back now I will have a new found respect for him, he will have done something almost heroic. if he continues on belligerently I will begin researching reasons not to like him and spam every thread.
A lot hangs in the balance
Turns out the mayor of Yuzhny
who was willing to negotiate with Russia was deposed for "high treason" for daring to "negotiate with the enemy".
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/02/28/7326835/https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/russia-ukraine-war-yuzhny-mayor-bryukhanov-officials-detained-in-kharkiv-over-treason-"""
Amid the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine, the armed forces of Ukraine detained the mayor of the city of Yuzhny - Alexander Bryukhanov - in the Kharkiv region over charges of treason, announced the head of the Kharkiv Regional Military Administration, Oleg Sinegubov, on February 28, 2022. Along with Bryukhanov, several other officers were also detained, including the deputy mayor of the South.
"We have had a special operation by the military. Now the mayor of Yuzhny, Mr Bryukhanov, his deputy, the head of the local police department, and the district police officer have been detained under the article of treason. This is to understand what is happening in our state.
We will not allow a single centimetre to be surrendered on the ground, and these are not just words. The military warns: it was we who showed loyalty and detained them, "stated the head of the Kharkiv Regional Military Administration in a statement, reported.
"""
So yeah have some NATO guns, go jam the tracks with your bones, block the streets with your bodies, wagies.
>>538812I said so in the other threads.
This guys is going to get shot, even hanged, with a sign in his neck saying Verräter because nazis are like that.
>>538802This might be right too, if Putin says "fuck it" and takes over Kiev ignoring all civilian and military losses and kills Zelensky this will end in 2 days and you will save many more people long term.
Dragging this shit for months is the worst thing that could happen for everyone.
>>538808Absolutely.
Even by those abyssal standards, most posts in this and the last thread are just embarrassing.
>>538786this does not look like artillery ,
here watch a artillery impact for comparison
>>538833le both sides le bad..
so deep…
>>538810>>538824Whether Putin has the luxury to withdraw at this point depends largely on whether or not Ukraine is willing to surrender or double down and send their people into the meatgrinder, and so far, their intimations on that front are not promising.
>I will begin researching reasons not to like him and spam every thread. lol
>>538833Both sides are bad, true.
However, one is allied with the Great Satan.
>>538830>Le epic train man has spoken, hes defeating putler with hecklin efficient public transportation systems, we did it we fucking did it !!Literally this lmao.
I was surprised when I saw that he was literally defending NATO and U.S while such western countries literally destroyed our public infrastructure
>>538853Get off it.
Before the thread turned into a daycare, everyone was laughing and cheering on NATO getting caught with their pants down.
>>538844These are older than more recent media about the talks which said they had stuff to agree on, its been holed into the last thread cos these threads are so fast.
Zelesnki wasn't present at the talks which to me says he is being sidelined. The fact diplomatic ties were cut but are now open again says to me that the Ukrainians don't want the war that they will have to give if they are to be belligerant in negotiations. But again, i am very much fanficcing here. I just can't honestly believe either side would be so retarded as to escalate from here. Nobody wins.
>yesterday russians were 30 miles away from kievhttps://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1498328462788112389NEW: Ukraine has slowed Russian military advance on Kyiv by blowing up bridges, small attacks, and airstrikes, per senior U.S. defense official.
"The Ukrainians are proving very creative" in resistance, the official said. Russian forces are 15 miles from the city.
>15 miles from the city today>ukrainian delegation demanding a pull out of russian armed forces out of the country, including crimeatop kek natosissies
>>538866I don't think that was ever in question.
Hope the Russian Anons who were shitposting in here on day one are doing okay.
>>538861>Zelesnki wasn't present at the talks which to me says he is being sidelined.we didn't see putin at those talks either, maybe this is because neither country would risk getting their president assassinated/apprehended at this point lol
the reason why ukrainians are at the negotiations is to keep up appearances of being "reasonable" for the west, but they basically don't give a fuck currently because time is on their side and not russia's.
>>538861>These are older than more recent media about the talks which said they had stuff to agree onThat's good to hear. I certainly hope they can work out something out.
>I just can't honestly believe either side would be so retarded as to escalate from here. Nobody wins.If NATO warmongers and arms dealers, who have quite a
lot to win with a protracted conflict, have enough sway on Ukraine's diplomatic representatives, then, unfortunately, there's a good chance things will indeed escalate.
>>538818I know smug is a comfy feeling so I won't deny you that it sounds the same
NTA btwIt is on the other hand giving me a cocorresponding nice comfy warm glow of smugness after reading your comment that the literal Nazis of ukraine are real where the weapons of mass destruction for Iraq was a lie
Can you imagine how smug I feel about all the burgeroid liberals talking about how Trump was literally Hitler because he crassly said what they all think inside publically and going on with sermons about the German saying that if one Nazi sits at a table with 3 others then there are 4 Nazis and muh red brown alliance bs now supporting a regime that celebrates the Nazi SS as national heroes
Warm glow of smug is nice and comfy I don't want to go back to feeling depressed and horrified and hoping the killing ceases ASAP
>>538881Well, there is a kernel of truth to what he says. If NATO can successfully turn Ukraine into a protracted "Somalia" like
>>538880 said, then the pro-NATO faction stands to gain by drawing Russia into an intractable quagmire against a belligerent insurgency. Russia needs to act quickly, while Ukro-Nazis and NATO would prefer to "run out the clock," so to speak.
>>538875But i think it was Nato saying they should negotiate and zelensky being Nato's boy, so him being sidelined and negotiations kinda tells me they are pissed with Nato, throw in that Nato have basically done fuck all for them despite assurances. I'm sure Ukrainian diplomats have felt that sting.
Time is also not on their side I don't think. Putin can at this point basically sit pretty. The game is them convincing him not to flex further.
>>538882>If NATO warmongers and arms dealers, who have quite a lot to win with a protracted conflict, have enough sway on Ukraine's diplomatic representatives,yeh this is basically the variable factor, just quite how much Ukranians will listen to them now that they've lost half their country to nato games will be interesting. Particularly if we remember most ukrainians aren't actually pro Nato despite what Nato would like us to think, even if they aren't pro russian, although this may have changed in the last few days
>>538907'based putin' is the saviour of the white race, because he stands up to globe homo imperialism
I think the wignat/storefront types are more supportive of Azov
>>538914everybody knows about how they
funded the mujihadeen and other tales now so i think it worked well
>>538898Ukrop nazis already do want him dead retard
NATO shills already do want him dead.
Either we defeat NATO or we all die, that's a fact
>>538878I think they are just applying but not in the UN
yet. It may just be posturing though.
Ukraine calls for Security Council vote to be removedhttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/russias-role-un-under-scrutiny-as-ukraine-calls-security-council-status-removedRussia’s role at the United Nations, where it sits on the Security Council, is under fresh scrutiny as it presides over the council’s discussions of its invasion into Ukraine – and the Ukrainian president demands Moscow be stripped of its vote.
"To deprive the aggressor country of the right to vote in the U.N. Security Council, to qualify Russian actions and statements as genocide of the Ukrainian people, to help with the delivery of corpses of Russian soldiers. Talked about it in a conversation with UN Secretary General [Antonio Guterres]," Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy tweeted.
I mean Zelenskyy is basically a Twitter warrior more than anything now, all he has to contribute is banter.
>>538928I mean its Russian military doctrine. What do you want them to do, a complete 180 and change every single method of combat doctrine in a single week? These guys train for years for specific type of battle heavy, expecting huge losses, but forcing large numbers of casualties. Large battlefield operations.
They leave their dead in the snow and mud and just drive by. Ain't no such thing as "No man left behind". Its zerg rush with everything. Ukraine has had to contact the international Red Cross to deal with the Russian soldier's corpses because the Russian army doctrine is not to worry about it.
>>538953One guy wants me to die
One guy doesn't care about me
I wonder who is worse?
>>538915>him being sidelined and negotiations kinda tells me they are pissed with NatoI hope that's the case, but I'm worried that it's more indicative of the fact that Ukro. Nazis are worried that Zelensky is too soft and are sidelining him so that they can send in their own people to sabotage any possibility of peace.
>Particularly if we remember most ukrainians aren't actually pro Nato despite what Nato would like us to thinkThe problem is, it doesn't matter one bit what most Ukrainians want. Their government has clearly signaled that they're willing to use them as pawns to generate a human rights crisis. Ukrainian capitalists are the one's who will decide the fate of the negotiations, and we can only hope that they're not insane enough to let their entire country be leveled.
>>538932What were his options?
Allowing NATO to put nukes in ukraine?
Keep getting slapped with sanctions little by little like the west has been doing for years?
Even if Putin was a good boy, NATO/US would find any excuse to both sanction russia and put nukes closer to them.
Whatever is happening now, economically speaking ,would have happened regardless in a couple of years, now Putin at least has somehow the upper hand
>>538951I agree that invading all of Ukraine is too extreme and has just alienated Russia further from the western imperialist network at such a crucial point in post-CW history, imo he should've just ordered Russian forces to stop at Novorossiya and let the west seethe endlessly.
>>538952->
<- >>538932>Bros, why did Putin launch this invasion that will destruy not just his rule but Russia as we have known it since Peter the Great??I said this earlier today but probably because Putin and the many, many people surrounding him judged (rightly or wrongly, we may never know) that invading Ukraine to stop NATO expansion was preferable in the long term to letting it continue, to letting to West place nuclear missiles on its border and hold Moscow hostage, potentially Balkanize the country, etc. They may think it's better to get it over with now than with an older Putin (especially if the rumors are true that he has Parkinson's or some shit) or a less experienced successor—Putin has more geopolitical clout, perceived to be easier to rally the country around than a successor, etc. Whether they made the right choice, or anticipated the current outcome, is not for me to say at this point.
>>538939How many military bases Russia has around the world? Can Russia cause chaos in the West just with economic sanctions? How many colour revolutions has Russia suponsored around the world? Did Russia coup'd the Mexico government and funded neonazis on their border?
Fuck Putin and his oligarchs, but if you think Russia is the same imperialistic super power as the US, you are retarded liberal.
>>539000I am cope, cracker
And Ukro-neonazis form the battle ram of the imperial core.
>>538964See, retard
>>538891>>538982Now switch the words Ukraine for Donbas, zelnsiky for Pushilin. See the results.
>>539008Imagine when your greater asset for resisting an invasion is daring the enemy to shoot you.
Another bunch of innocent civilians soon to be victims of the barbaric eastern hordes.
>>539001Taiwan is not fucking and married to china, its a treacherous duplicitous country, my analogy stands.
Bolivia and Nicaragua are the weasly twins. Cuba and North Korea are the weasley parents.
>>539003I think he is motivated by self defence. If he is so, provoking further would be stupid. If he is defensively motivated, his position should be defensive, not agressive, right now hes toeing the line.
>>539004that was before the invasion, now they know hes serious.
>>539009thats like saying Venezuela is the imperial core because Juan Gaydo exists. Its silly. stop being silly.
>>538922Reminder that Golden Dawn, a party with 10% of the vote, supported by Russia, had armed paramilitary wings and murdered migrant workers and left wing activists.
You need to get a grip. Russia is in bed with the far right.
>>539034>didn't ukrainian nationalists literally try to genocide jews and poles living in ukraine while the nazis were invading? how did this get memoryholed?Yes. IIRC there was even a pogrom
after Germany surrendered, or at the very least after the Nazis got ran out of Ukraine.
>>538997That may or may not have been the better move (and these were the only two moves), but the West and Ukraine would have called that a war of invasion anyway, and there would have been combat between the two anyway. It's just a question of whether the war is at the Donbas border or nationwide.
And remember, they had already started imposing sanctions, already killed the NS2 pipeline, and escalated the shelling of Donbas before Russia even entered at all.
There was going to be war either way, and there was going to be all possible sanctions either way, and then you're stuck fighting a war for who knows how long at the Donbas border, which will escalate into other disputes and may wind up in broader war anyway. The whole point of Ukraine policy (meaning US policy) was to force a war ("to fight Russia over there so we don't have to fight them here"). Russia chose the option of going big and ending the war sooner rather than later. Whether that was the better choice or not, I don't know.
>>539042>>539042And Golden dawn also had ties with China…. do you know why? because these "nationalists" wanted to do business with Russia and China. The only EU nationalists party NATO doesn't care (and you only care because you brought the gd here to the discussion) are the ones that are
real nationalists to the point that they prefer to eat shit rather than do business with China and Russia.
>>539061You do realise an insurgency in Ukraine would devastate Ukraine and be YUGE boost to Nato and the Far Right in Europe, and Russia likely wouldn't win much more than they currently have under control, there is a much higher chance they would lose a lot.
>>539063another bullet in my anti china gun. Sources though please
>>539067interesting. Do you have a source for the Golden Dawn thing?
>>539069to what?
>>539075putin is not a communist
>>539060>>539067Ah thanks I'd been looking for that screenshot so I could combine it with
>When Putin was put on the throne of Russian power by an ailing Boris Yeltsin in 1999, his face was rather sympathetic, attractive even – and his rhetoric was entirely sound. It seemed to many that the man ascending the heights of the Russian pyramid of power was an intelligent official devoid of pride and arrogance and a modern individual who understood that post-Soviet Russia had only one possible path into the future: democracy. He talked about democracy quite a bit in his interviews back then, promising the citizens of the Russian Federation continued reforms, free elections, freedom of speech, the observance of human rights by the authorities, cooperation with the west, and, most importantly, a constant rotation of those in power.Also notice how all the Germans clapped at the Pinochet line
>>539087dengism and its consequences have been an unmitigated disaster on the minds of the internet leftist.
Hoxha was CORRECT you are ALL REVISIONISTS
>>539089i am saying it is a flase equivalence, and even if fidel was your average liberal, which he wasn't, the context is still completely different. Comparing them is truly bananas
>>539090im talking more like a break up of yugoslavia vibe than the tame shit we've seen right now
>>539092this is why the "putin is a communist" line is fucking insane
>>539088>>539098>>539107Not only that, but she also lives in Russia and makes youtube videos about cars.
Here's her channel.
https://www.youtube.com/c/NastyaTyman/aboutI swear, twitter tards will believe anything without even checking the profile of the person who uploaded it.
>>539103>which he wasn'tHe was, lol, he was a member of a party named Orthodox party, and wrote as an Op-Ed journo for the Marti newspaper.
>Comparing them is truly bananas I delimited the exact parts where they are different and where they are similar.
The radlib posting the article, and reposting the article will never do such assessment because he wants to hate le ebin putin
>>539103I'd agree with you
for now let's see how the economic moves he'll have to make for Russia to cruise through the sanctions without a scratch affect him thoughThe author of that piece is terrified you're wrong though
>Putin declared that the collapse of the USSR was the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century. For all clear-headed Soviet people, its collapse had been a blessing; it was impossible to find a single family unscathed by the red wheel of Stalinist repressions. Millions were annihilated. Tens of millions were poisoned by the fumes of communism – an unattainable goal requiring moral and physical sacrifices by Soviet citizens. But Putin didn’t manage to outgrow the KGB officer inside of him, the officer who’d been taught that the USSR was the greatest hope for the progress of mankind and that the west was an enemy capable only of corruption. Launching his time machine into the past, it was as if he were returning to his Soviet youth, during which he’d been so comfortable. He gradually forced all his subjects to return there as well.The trouble with you other that you're an annoying tripfags is that you don't truly believe that Communism isn't just good it's also simply scientifically correct
I know you want to and that's to your credit, but It's something you need to work on >>539073>another bullet in my anti china gun. Sources though pleaseKKE wrote a screeching article about the ambassador meeting with them but at the same time, the KKE screeching phagget meets the ambassador years after the screeching article and poses with the ambassador. Is the founder of the In Defense Of Communism website. You can find the article in the KKE, and using the name of the writer find the pictures of him meetiing with the ambassador on the foreing relationships website of China.
and not
likethis
>>539078, but you are retarded.
We're watching an old Russel Bentley video.
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlashPeople need to see the background context of this shit.
>>539127checked
also burger leftists are generally sympathetic to cuba regardless of what other opinions they may have, it could be fruitful to bring up cuba's stance on the conflict to get people questioning things
>>539109Also, the west are the ones escalating the conflict and would have deployed most of not all the same sanctions even if Russia just defended the Donbass republics, once the Ukranian government decided to fully ditch Minsk2.
The armed conflict was always going to happen as well as the sanctions and NATO block disciplining, Russia is just making the best of the hand NATO has forced them to play, and Russia too knew this day would come and have been preparing for it aswell since 2014
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPFS>SPFS is a Russian equivalent of the SWIFT financial transfer system, developed by the Central Bank of Russia.[1] The system has been in development since 2014, when the United States government threatened to disconnect Russia from the SWIFT system.[2]
>The first transaction on the SPFS network involving a non-bank enterprise was executed in December 2017.[3] In March 2018, over 400 institutions (mostly banks) were part of the network.[1]>At the end of 2020, there are 23 foreign banks connected to the SPFS from Armenia, Belarus, Germany, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Switzerland.[9]>The system only works within Russia,[3] though there are plans to integrate the network with the China-based Cross-Border Inter-Bank Payments System.
<Russia slashes dollar & euro from reserves in favor of gold & yuan https://www.rt.com/business/523056-russia-slashes-dollar-euro-holdings/>Russia has been steadily diversifying national reserves since Washington began imposing sanctions in 2014, in order to cut its economy’s reliance on the US dollar. In 2019, the share of bullion holdings in Russia’s reserves surpassed US dollar holdings for the first time.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_renminbi>Digital renminbiis a central bank digital currency issued by China's central bank. The digital RMB is legal tender[4] and has equivalent value with other forms of renminbi, also known as the Chinese yuan (CNY), such as bills and coins.The digital yuan is designed to move instantaneously in both domestic and international transactions.[2][5] It aims to be cheaper and faster than existing financial transactions.[2] The technology enables transactions to take place between two offline devices.[6][7]
>The digital RMB could provide a cheaper and more practical alternative to international transactions that are outside the U.S.-led global financial system, especially for countries with strong ties to China.[2][6] It is feared by U.S. commentators and officials that the digital RMB would weaken the ability of the U.S. to monitor and control the global financial system, through "dollar weaponization," such as sanctions[2][28] and through its intelligence access to the SWIFT payment system.The multipolarity is going to happen, this is just the US jumping the schedule straight to war.
If your heart breaks for what is happening today, remember it could have been China's fate too if not for this man. Without the CPC, There would be no China. Mao Ze Dong liberated China from the yoke of Western and Japanese imperialism, the helmsman of the republic. Deng Xiao Ping strengthened China economically, the architect of Modern China. Xi Jin Ping helps further strengthen China into a super power, extending relations with Eurasia and Africa, the essence of Chinese Culture.
Even Jiang Zemin was good. He furthered Deng’s policies and catapulted china into the 21st century. Hu and Wen both were very good leaders tackling internal issues and further strengthening the foundations of Chinese society. Basically, if it wasn’t for Mao, Deng, Jiang, Hu and Wen. Xi would not have the resources to face the challenges head on. All were great, all were leaders we needed at the specific circumstances. I truly believe China is one of the few countries blessed, as each time, just when the country/nation or culture is about to break, a diligent, capable and strong leader comes and lead this entire nation out of the times of trouble.
>>539182But that's because it's a threat to his geopolitical interests, not because they became socialists.
Putin wouldn't give a fuck if all south america became socialist for example, in fact he would sell them weapons.
>>539170I have no idea how they would remove someone from the security council. Historically, they could never do this even when there were much, much higher stakes (such as removing China). I don't believe there is even a theoretical path to do this, and it's intentionally is designed so there is no mechanism. The entire idea behind the security council is that permanent members cannot be removed.
Seems like pure westoid delusion from living in as the apex predator for so long and not ever having to acknowledge the UNSC.
>>539195God willing Givi will not have died in vain.
O7
>>539195fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck bros
RIP Givi, he would've been so happy seeing what's happening now.
>>539196> imagine, for example, that russia losesRussia won't "lose", they either win (as its the case right now) or they and NATO destroy the entire world.
That's the "beauty" of nuclear weapons, they make you pretty much unbeatable because if you lose the entire world loses with you.
>>539246American Left stands with Ukraine. Russian Left stands with Ukraine. Finnish Left stands with Ukraine. French Left stands with Ukraine.
Don't you see a trend?
>>539240Only a few dudes ended up with azov/right sector. Not representative of the Ukrainian anarchist movement at large. (Besides some communists also were involved with azov at some point) 2014 was simply a mess.
Now why this group decided to fight? From what I read on Crimethinc one faction of anarchists consider that NATO/US can be tactical allies because Rojava and that the situation for Ukrainian revolutionaries will worse under Russia's boot, so they decided to fight.
>>539261In a multipolar world this shit wouldn't happen because VK and Weibo would be as big as twitter and facebook.
Another reason to support Russia.
>>539268I remember reading a short essay in the anarchist library about how the anarchists fighting in Rojava should accept American arms and aid and that it was time to overlook the imperialism of the past. Disgusting as fuck.
Getting the same energy reading the news of all this shit.
I don't understand why Russia chooses this strategy. I get the Soviet military doctrine, the deep battle tactic, which seems to be designed to take some hits early on and then have the trap snap. But why did they send old Cold War gear and conscripts in the first wave deep into enemy territory? They lost so much men and equipment due to logistical problems. Now, the second echolon rolls on, and it carries some heavy shit, like apparently T-14 Armatas.
Wouldn't it be smarter to send in the best troops first to establish a beachhead? Or did they that think they can use conscripts and old gear because the Ukrainian army is so weak that they would already be overwhelmed and then easily roll up the country with the second and third much more professional echolon? If it was a deliberate decision, to sacrifice so much equipment and risk the loss of manpower, only to then secure the victory with the heavier troops, then that is very cold-blooded, I gotta say.
The average Russian does not react more tolerating towards body bags coming home than the average Westerner. That was a problem for the government during the Afghanistan War, during the Chechen War, during the Donbass Conflict 2014, and during the Syrian War where Putin's approval ratings took a dive.
I still think Russia is pretty clearly winning, especially now that I see what kind of stuff they now introduce to the field. But the whole operation seems weird and miscalculated. Especially, since Ukraine is the perfect terrain for the Russian military, especially with their high reliance on heavy tanks, because it's mostly fields. Maybe they should have just tried to blitz them, instead of deep battle tactic, but then again, preserving as many civilian lives as possible seems to be one of the priorities.
>>539301Russia could have gone full WWII overdrive and kill everything on sight but they chose not to, this was a deliberate decision.
Still it's amazing they're so close to capturing kiev after just a week.
>>539302>Found on /k/ - compilation of new Ukrainian UAV strikesStopped reading.
Ukraine lies everyday and the cuc/k/ed retards believe every word.
>>539302They ran out of drones now though. Those were some of their aces they pulled out of their sleeve in the beginning, but now they are a sitting duck once Mariupol falls.
Also, since when did the fucking Turks get so good with regards to making drones?
>>539242Stupid ukrop sets his gf on fire for no reason. Molotov cocktails do absolutely nothing to tanks or armored vehicles. Their achievement is that later some Russian soldier might notice a little soot residue, if they don't drive thru a mud puddle in the mean time, in which case it will be covered by dirt-water spray.
This is literally this Zizek joke about dusty balls:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkptPb0gS_Y >>539301Doesn't it seem obvious they are, as you note, acting under highly restrictive rules of engagement to minimize casualties.
I don't think it's extremely confusing, they wanted a political settlement.
The tone of military experts, who express confusion and bemusement at this strategy, is imo a facade to avoid clearly addressing that they are participating in their own side's psychological warfare operations, and seeking to nullify this strategy on purpose.
They want a political settlement to fail, they want to give hope and morale to Ukrainian side to keep them fighting, and they want Russia to be forced to wield its might against civilians in order to ruin its reputation and moral claims.
>>539242LOL
>throw fire at steel(jet fuel can't melt steel beams)
>good job, now you have fire inside your own vehicle >>539243hello newfriend :)
>>539251nobody on the internet "stands with ukraine", nor does anyone "stand with russia", to stand with someone you have to offer concrete material assistance.
>>539063 This is different to them being actually funded by Russian oligarchs. Get. A. Fucking. Grip.
What I'm trying to say is that it's bizzare to support Russia as an "anti-fascist" force when they are actually supporting fascism in Europe.
Marine Le Pen almost won the election in France for fucks sake.
>>539065https://tvxs.gr/news/egrapsan-eipan/i-xrimatodotisi-tis-xrysis-aygis-apo-akrodeksioys-sti-rosia-ellines-kai-rosoys-ehttps://tvxs.gr/news/egrapsan-eipan/i-xrimatodotisi-tis-xrysis-aygis-apo-akrodeksioys-sti-rosia-ellines-kai-rosoys-eΝο, I'm not going to translate the sources for you, because I'm not going to waste my time arguing with retards who are supporting the biggest supporter of Nazis in my country in bad faith. Fuck you, fuck your fake leftism and fuck your retarded takes.
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