No.548636
>>813384
I wonder if they have orders to surrender if they meet resistance and are surrounded
No.548637
>>548617OK and? I've been researching ukranian social media accounts. I have an ok guess how urbanite liberals think right now. I know they don't think like that.
50% of americans think Russia is communist. So should you cater to that? I don't get what you wanted to achieve with this comment.
No.548638
>>548613>and again in '14. And what NATO did in 14? The West has helped Ukrainians to overthrow the corrupt authoritarian government, it was about EU, nobody gave a fuck about NATO in 2014, approval was 20%. But then Russia has annexed Crimea and supported far-right insurgency in Eastern Ukraine which resulted in thousands of dead.
Ukrainians want NATO membership now because their country has been at war with Russia for 8 years and now full-scale invasion is in motion and nationalist sentiments are rising. This is a disaster staged by Russian elites.
No.548641
>>548638Whether you like it or not this guy states the truth.
No.548642
>>548638>Ukrainians bourgeoisie want NATO membershipftfy
No.548644
>>548638Are you even trying Langley? In what universe is Russia far right?
No.548647
>>548638US installed a corrupt ultra right wing (nazi) government.
Just because you (pretend to) not know about what happened in 2014 doesn't make you right. Russia has been
very vocal about the things it will and will not tolerate. The lines have been crossed for 20+ years.
No.548648
MOOOOOOOODS
explain yourselves
No.548649
>>548581>you really lack understanding of Eastern EuropeI come from eastern europe and I think you're going a bit too far to the other extreme, although I agree with your sentiment in general. Tbf, the problem west of Ukraine is not at all Russia but western capital and its EU arm, so the situation within eastern europe is far from homogenous (I won't even start with other differences).
No.548650
>>548638embarrassing post
just because you have fed flag doesn't mean people will buy the "merely pretending" follow-up
No.548651
New thread coming
No.548653
>>548648what did they did done this time?
No.548655
>>548653They're deleting videos.
No.548656
is there any pole that isn't a recalcitrant anticommunist and antirussian? dystopic ass country
No.548657
>>548644I was talking about groups who have started armed conflict in Ukraine. Like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin sponsored by Russian ultraconservative businessman. Or cossacks, Russian National Unity and other extremist groups. Just read the constitution of DPR or see what political parties constitute its' parliament.
No.548658
>>548655were they NSFW without spoiler?
No.548659
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No.548660
>>548646So? What's the correct answer? Russia surely isn't capitalist.
No.548661
>>548655you should be saving them as you see them, anyway
No.548663
>>548660yes it is you absolute retard
No.548665
>>548663Then how do they have oligarchs?
No.548668
>>548665They’re not oligarchs you orientalist faggot, they’re national bourgeoisie. Putin is following the Chinese model of socialism and so far he’s doing quite well
No.548669
>>548637>I've been researching ukranian social media accounts.Expert on foreign countries here, oh shit. Definitely this guy has a handle on the real life behavior and culture of Ukrainians, by no means getting info from the most vapid source possible.
Where you getting that stat about Americans?
It's not a matter of who you cater to, it's a matter of understanding that when your country is invaded that's fight-or-flight. Ukraine has had tensions with Russia for a long time, too, and this isn't the first time in a decade that this has happened. Not only was that fight-or-flight instinct there, there was anticipation. They knew some day it might come to this, and because of the history they had no optimism about allowing themselves to be overtaken.
No.548670
>>548668So Russia is socialist?
No.548671
>>548668>They’re not oligarchs you orientalist faggot, they’re national bourgeoisie. Putin is following the Chinese model of socialism and so far he’s doing quite wellL M A O
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No.548672
>>548668>Putin is following the Chinese model of socialism and so far he’s doing quite welltop kek
Is this why he's continuously cutting social spending? I won't deny he's much better than the absolute catastrophe in the 90s, but c'mon.
No.548674
>>548638EU is a lie. Trust me bro, you'll regret it. This is one eastern european slav speaking to another.
No.548675
>>548613Asking because I'm not super well versed on the history of this conflict, but what were the red lines that NATO crossed?
No.548676
>>548668there are idiots that unironically believe this
No.548681
>>548638>>548674If Ukrainians want to see their future in the EU, they should look at countries like Bolgaria and Romania. EU supports even right-wing mafiosos, as long as they're effective at organizing surplus exploitation for western capitalists.
No.548683
>>548499>The Ukrainian nation has no basis (the Ukie state is 3 nations: the Ukrainian nation, polish nation and Russian nation) by this logic, Russia should be broken up asap because it's a fuckton of ethnicities (some have their own republics, but many don't)
No.548684
>>548615Dostoevskiy was an imperial chauvinist anyway
late Tolstoy is the only based one
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