Today big news came from Niger. The military announced it had seized power and arrested the ProFrench President Mohamed Bazoum. The Constitution has been suspended and power transferred to a military junta. This was caused by increased unrest in the country, caused by the failure of the government to fight the ISIS insurgency and the endemic poverty that has gripped the country since independence from France.
Many nigeriens rightfully resent French neocolonialism over the country, especially since 2022 when huge amounts of French soldiers established bases in the country after they were kicked out of neighbouring Mali by a proRussia military junta.
After the coup was announced today, hundreds of procoup civilians came out in the center of the capital, waving flags of Russia and Wagner PMC and chanting antiFrench slogans. This seems to be signaling that Niger might be joining their neighbours Mali and Burkina Faso, who broke free of French control and established alliances with Russia after their French puppet governments were overthrown by military juntas.
Indeed, Mali recently removed French as an official language, demoting it to a "working language", while promoting only local languages to the official status. Like in Mali and Burkina Faso, this coup in Niger was followed by harsh western condemnation, and if the junta doesnt cave in to western demands, sanctions might soon follow like in Mali and Burkina Faso.
This is especially a problem for France, since Niger supplies up to 35% of its uranium. If Niger takes control of its natural resources like uranium, this could spell big trouble for French nuclear energy.
>>583614no, France has enough to fund the retirement
he's just doing it for profits
<ECOWAS Gives Niger Military Week to Cede Power, Threatens Force, Sanctionshttps://en.sputniknews.africa/20230730/ecowas-gives-niger-junta-week-to-cede-power-threatens-force-sanctions-1060931041.html>West African leaders on Sunday gave the military in Niger one week to cede power, warning they did not rule out the "use of force", and imposed immediate financial sanctions.>The 15-nation Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) demanded the "immediate release and reinstatement" of elected President Mohamed Bazoum, who has been held by the military since Wednesday.
<"In the event the authorities' demands are not met within one week (ECOWAS will) take all measures necessary to restore constitutional order in the Republic of Niger. Such measures may include the use of force. For this effect, the chiefs of defence staff of ECOWAS are to meet immediately," the bloc said in a statement after its summit in Abuja, Nigeria, on Sunday.
>The bloc also slapped financial sanctions on the military leaders and on the country, freezing "all commercial and financial transactions" between member states and Niger, one of the world's poorest nations, often ranking last on the UN's Human Development Index.<"To introduce a travel ban and freeze the assets of military officials involved in the coup attempt. The same applies to their family members and civilians who agree to participate in any institutions … created by these military officials," Omar Alieu Touray, the president of the ECOWAS Commission, said.
>ECOWAS also declared that it closed borders with Niger.>Earlier, the commander of the Niger Presidential Guard, General Omar Tchiani, who is the self-proclaimed leader of the country, warned the ECOWAS and its allies against military intervention in Niger.<"We warn ECOWAS and its allies against any military intervention in the city of Niamey, so we will be obliged to defend ourselves to the last of our strength," Tchiani said on social media.>On 26 July, the country's military, during a speech on national TV, stated that President Mohamed Bazoum had been deposed, the borders were closed, and a curfew had been declared.>Prior to that, the military of the Presidential Guard blocked the presidential palace in the Niger's capital Niamey.>Niger is the fourth of 15 ECOWAS countries whose membership has been suspended due to a recent military coup. Earlier, this happened to Guinea, Burkina Faso and Mali.——-
<Final communique – Fifty First Extraordinary Summit of the ECOWAS Authority of Heads of State and Government on the political situation in Nigerhttps://ecowas.int/final-communique-fifty-first-extraordinary-summit-of-the-ecowas-authority-of-heads-of-state-and-government-on-the-political-situation-in-niger/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Community_of_West_African_States>Mali was suspended from ECOWAS on 30 May 2021, following its second military coup within nine months.[14] Guinea was also suspended on 8 September 2021, shortly after a military coup took place in the country.[15][16] Sanctions were placed on both countries on 16 September.[17] On 10 January 2022, Mali announced its decision to close its borders and recalled several ambassadors with ECOWAS in response to sanctions imposed for deferring elections for four years.[18] On 28 January 2022, Burkina Faso was suspended from ECOWAS following a military coup.[19] >>583614The mosquitos of the first world can screech all they want but their bloodlust for imperialized blood is undeniable.
All they have is to wait for another 2008, for good or for bad
>>583602Don't forget br*Irish intervention in the quelling of Oman's revolution
Video just because
>>583620They are not in a state of class struggle but class comma, and nothing can be expected from them but servilism since their states and the bourgeoisie from whom they are paid as public employees manage the spoils and riches of the imperialized ones.
All the rioting in the world can't and won't bring you an centimeter closer back to the welfare state paid by the jungle
>>583621>They are not in a state of class struggle but class commaSo rioting over pensions being reduced and police murdering people isn't class struggle?
>their states and the bourgeoisie from whom they are paid as public employees manage the spoils and riches of the imperialized onesYeah and also the spoils and riches extracted from themselves. Unless you unironically believe that porkies are losing money on French workers, then any concessions they receive are just another portion of the surplus that they themselves have produced.
>All the rioting in the world can't and won't bring you an centimeter closer back to the welfare state paid by the jungleIf the welfare state is paid by the jungle then why did it reach its peak in the 70s, exactly at the same time as the socialist bloc and anti-imperialist movement? Why did its dismantling coincide with the decline of socialism and the zenith of imperialist domination in the 90s? Imperialism doesn't sustain social democracy in the sense that first world proles are literally subsisting on the surplus of the periphery. It's simply that superexploitation supplements the profits the bourgeoisie are forced to concede back to the workers of the core. Remove the parasitic bourgeoisie from the equation and universal prosperity becomes possible.
Reminder that third worldism is exclusively a first world movement. >>583596>After the coup was announced today, hundreds of procoup civilians came out in the center of the capital, waving flags of Russia and Wagner PMC and chanting antiFrench slogans.Why are they not waving their own flags?
In reality this coup, like the hundreds of coups in Africa before, will not change much. It's just the head of a different tribe ousting the head of another tribe so the taxes and bribes go to them instead. They picked Russia as a backer instead of France, which is probably a good choice since Russia seems to have a better understanding of modern Africa than France.
The market for uranium is very diversified, uranium can be stockpiled for years (France has 3 to 5 years in stock). The most likely scenario is that, while Russia will continue to provide security and take a cut, France will continue to exploit the uranium mines there, perhaps giving a greater share to the government, which will share it with other members of their tribe while the rest of the population lives in the exact same conditions as before.
>>583622>PEOPLE RIOTED!Rioting that amounted to nothing, the laws passed and the status quo lived on.
>The surplus they get is from them and not all of the imperialized worldTheir supply chains are so entangled and deep in the imperialist extraction of the third world from the value of their currency to the food they eat that as you see not even the worst loss of the meager quality of life can move them, and we're they are moved, only in the direction of reactionarism.
>The 70s were the pinnacle of the welfare state while the antiimperialist struggle The welfare state died in the hands of bourgeois greed, by the hammer of outsourcing and the anvil of Chinese capitalist opening. And the class slumber of the first world continues to this day.
Nothing can be expected from them until the foundations of the system eats itself.
Not your companion-firstworlder. For your information
>>583624>Rioting that amounted to nothingThe fact that it failed doesn't mean it wasn't class struggle. Plenty of armed insurgencies and revolutions in the third world failed as well. Does this mean that these weren't examples of class struggle? These things have always been a process.
>not even the worst loss of the meager quality of life can move themIt hasnt moved third world proles either. When was the last time workers and peasants in a third world country took over the state? All that's happened is that their local rulers have sensed an opportunity to break free of neocolonialism. Based to be sure, but the third world workers being led along by their national bourgeoisie doesnt exactly speak to their ability to act independently. Any group of people can act in a progressive capacity when they are led there by their own ruling class. I see nothing to lead me to believe that they are less passive in this regard than firsties. The heyday of actual seizures of power by the workers and peasants of the third world are long over.
>Nothing can be expected from them until the foundations of the system eats itself. The foundations of the system are eating itself, and the riots and unrest are a manifestation of this. Instead of seeing the opportunity here, all you do is whine about how it doesn't count because it didn't instantly overthrow capitalism. It's strange that the same people who constantly complain about how first world proles never do anything to confront the bourgeoisie also complain the most when they do. The people who complain about the labour aristocracy also complain when it's decline manifests as a riot. You people clearly don't actually believe in anything, because if you didn't you wouldn't find a way to whine about firsties when they actually do the things which your own theory predicts they should, and which you claim to want.
>>583608<unless it affects me it's meaingless!!!Average self-obsessed burger.
Shut the fuck up and preferably kill yourself dirty worthless american nobody wants you alive.
>>583629Wait, how come France is the one dictating economic policy if the military occupant is American?
That doesn't sound like America at all.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/Economy/niger-puts-an-end-to-uranium-and-gold-export-to-franceNiger puts an end to uranium and gold export to France>With immediate effect, the Republic of Niger under the leadership of General Abdourahamane Tchiani, and supported by the people of the Republic, announced the suspension of the export of uranium and gold to France on Sunday.
>In parallel to the decision, protestors were surrounding the French Embassy in Niger calling for the end of French colonial practices repeating the slogan “Down with France!” and reaffirming their support to the coup leader, Tchiani.>Wazobia Reporters, a Nigerien news website, reported on protestor proclaiming “We have uranium, diamonds, gold, oil, and we live like slaves? We don’t need the French to keep us safe.">world's seventh-biggest producer of uranium (just over 4% of world uranium output)>the leading uranium supplier vis-a-vis the EU A skeptical take on the coup.
>The sign of the embassy is torn off. An attack against the symbol of the French presence, but above all a convenient target for the military perpetrators of the coup: one of them, General Mohamed Toumba, has moreover under his command, in the army from Niger, French soldiers based in Niger.
>For Guy Labertit, former delegate for Africa of the PS between 1993 and 2006, this discourse "has no depth among Nigeriens, it is rather folklore à la Kémi Séba (militant and racialist influencer, close to the extreme right in France – Editor’s note).” A little earlier, the CNSP had assured that the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Hassoumi Massoudou, had signed a document which "authorizes the French partner to carry out strikes within the presidential palace" to "release President Mohamed Bazoum". A lie intended to warm up the demonstrators.
>According to Guy Labertit, “the arguments of the military do not hold water. During this demonstration, we saw some Russian flags waved by excited people paid for it, but Russia should not be seen everywhere." An analysis corroborated by French intelligence services, quoted by Le Monde, saying they have "no clue" of a Russian presence. The Kremlin reacted by calling "to restore legality as soon as possible".
>The attack on the embassy led to a strong reaction from France through the voice of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, condemning “any violence against diplomatic premises, the security of which is the responsibility of the host State”. The Élysée indicated "not to tolerate any attack against France and its interests" . French interests, precisely, which are important in Niger: in addition to the military base and its 1,500 men, three uranium mines are operated by Orano (ex-Areva) in the country. "France is more radical because Niger is the last pivotal country in the region" , analyzes Guy Labertit.
[…]
>After several days of hesitation, it was therefore General Abdourahamane Tiani who took the lead of the putschist officers. He dismissed some of the officers involved in the coup and his power is contested by other corps of the Nigerien armies.
>Their only common point: their hatred of Mohamed Bazoum, a former trade unionist, and his Nigerien Party for Democracy and Socialism (PNDS). This Monday, according to our information, several leaders of the overthrown government were arrested by the military. Two ministers in particular were targeted, that of Mines, Ousseini Hadizatou Yacouba, and that of Petroleum, Mahamane Sani Mahamadou, who is none other than the son of the former president of Niger, Mahamadou Issoufou .
>A close adviser to Mohamed Bazoum, El hadj Foumakoye Gado, was also arrested: he is known in Niger as a key man in the energy sector. Targeted arrests that can be interpreted in two ways. First, as an offensive against President Bazoum's party, the PNDS; then, as a sign of the will of the military to quickly claim access to energy resources.
>The Nigerien Democratic Movement for an African Federation (Moden), a product of the former single party and led by Hama Amadou, hastened to pledge allegiance to the military, welcoming in a press release that the "valiant defense and (FDS) put an end to the horrors of the Nigerien populations by overthrowing the regime" and claiming to "support the CNSP." Which hardly surprises Guy Labertit: “It is the political forces of the old days that are behind it, but I am aware that the Moden has released such a press release…”
>ECOWAS, for its part, reacted firmly, enjoining the military to "restore constitutional order and release Mohamed Bazoum" within a week. Meeting on Sunday in Abuja, the capital of Nigeria whose president, Bola Tinubu, is also the rotating president of ECOWAS, the heads of state imposed severe economic sanctions.
>Financial transactions from abroad are blocked. With the agreement of ECOWAS, the Head of State of Chad, Mahamat Idriss Déby, has been in Niamey since Sunday. He met the military there, as well as Mohamed Bazoum and former President Issoufou. “His presence is very significant, explains Guy Labertit. "It is not part of ECOWAS and it is essential in the region. Tiani, former head of the presidential guard, knows very well its importance." The CNSP and the military, who denounce a very hypothetical “French military intervention” , could above all be forced to negotiate. It remains to be seen on what basis.
You're not supposed to be this obvious in pushing your "white man's burden", guys. I don't expect much, just some subtlety?
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-66324875>>583644Since there is no "Z" character in Russian Cyrillic, the reverse must be applied for a country that uses the Latin alphabet.
Иigers (iigers)
What the Niger coup means for China’s presence in the Sahel region>Last week’s military coup in Niger is adding to the growing pains for China’s investments in the Sahel region.>On Wednesday, a group of soldiers from the presidential guard detained Nigerien President Mohamed Bazoum, citing a worsening security and economic situation.>In the past three years there have also been coups in Burkina Faso, Guinea, Mali, Chad and Sudan, all countries where China has extensive economic interests especially in the mining and petroleum industries and is looking to extend its multibillion-dollar trade and investment scheme, the Belt and Road Initiative.>Bazoum was elected in March 2021 in the country’s first peaceful, democratic transition since independence from France in 1960.>China’s foreign ministry said Beijing was closely monitoring the situation in Niger and called on relevant parties to act in the interest of the country and its people and solve differences peacefully through dialogue.>Rahmane Idrissa, a senior researcher at the African Studies Centre at Leiden University in Netherlands, said the military was taking advantage of what looked like an international climate more tolerant of coups.>Idrissa said the coup was a disaster for the Franco-Nigerien relationship and more broadly, for Niger’s relations with the West.>He said the Wagner Group – a Russian mercenary company with extensive interests in Africa – “isn’t a factor but the Kremlin is certainly happy about it, not because it helps the Nigeriens, but because it might help their progress into West Africa, which has been favoured by the juntas of Mali and Burkina Faso”.>He said China was present in Niger as an economic partner in the exploitation of oil in the eastern part of the country. “The deal will not be affected by the coup,” he said.>Bazoum is a close ally of France, and other Western nations but Beijing has been making inroads into Niger as it has with other countries in the region.https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3229399/what-niger-coup-means-chinas-presence-sahel-region>>583644They'd be called WAGNERITE PUTINIST ZIGGER GIGA uyghLER BLACK AFRICAN MONKEY PEOPLE of course.
>>583640So, I didn't know shit about Mali (apart from it being where .ml TLDs come from) and apparently it's estimated that two thirds of their population are under 25.
>>583644Riggers
>>583664Showing
what before and after? The border lines?
>>583672>legalitySpray paint a Stirner head that can be seen from space outside the mine entrance.
There is no legality outside of force, France established that legality through force, and through force it was taken from them.
>>5836901. you must keep in mind that Russia's influence in the coup is overstated by western media.
But still, most of the Support is due to seeing Russia as an anti-imperialist and anti-western force, due both to Russia actively being anti-western now, and due to historical reasons (Imperial Russia supporting Ethiopia against Italy and more importantly Soviet support to anticolonial movemnts) Russia generally has a good image among africans especially anti-western and anti-islamists ones. The new government will probably seek closer relations with Russia as did the other countries who had a coup recently.
2. a regional alliance that Niger was part of is threatening war, France is also considering the option. Burkina Faso and Mali are saying they'll defend Niger if they attack, however it is not Impossible that Mali will stay Neutral as they still are dealing with islamists in the north
>>583690>Why are there so many people waving Russian flags?Since the war in Ukraine, many people in West Africa have seen Russia positively as a counterbalance to the West, who are their current and historical oppressors. Also Wagner has been active in the region fighting Islamist insurgents, and has apparently been doing a much better job than the French forces deployed to these countries.
>What's with Burkina Faso saying they would defend Niger in case of a military intervention?They seem to worry that the rest of ECOWAS, which is broadly Western aligned, would invade to restore power to a pro-Western government. No doubt this declaration was seen as a deterrent.
>>583711"But if " and "may" are doing a lot of work here. People thought the war in Ukraine might weaken nato but instead it was used to strengthen it. Besides, a war is just what the french capitalists need to distract people from internal problems. The only thing that will result from this would be dead sons and daughters of workers on all sides and better tuned weapons for future wars.
Just because most of us can watch any potential war play out from a safe distance doesn't mean anons can forget the human cost of war. We can't treat it like a new product to consume akin to a new tv show. Even if we are not west African or french, or even know anyone who is that these are still people, our fellow workers. We can't let the potential prospects of a weaken french imperialism and our distance from any suffering be used to justify gawking at people for our amusement.
>>583721You seem to be poorly read on communism if you think one side of global capitalism defeating the other is a win for us. That is just the nature of inter-imperialist conflict and capitalism as a whole. All capitalist nations wish to be the sole monopoly or a part the monopoly, as such they fight their imperialist rivals to achieve that. This doesn't change the fundamental character of global capitalism. A win would be the overthrow of one or all sections of global capital and the turn to socialism/communism. As long as capitalism is the order of the day the workers of all nations and peoples of poor nations will continue to be oppressed.
I suggest you read lenin to get a better under standing of what the real fight looks like.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch09.htm >>583730The other capitalist pole I speak of is led by BRICS which includes Dengist China, up to you if you want to consider that insufficiently socialist. I don't think it's necessary for them to be even socialist so long as the rise of multipolarity brings about the conditions for the overthrow of third world resource colonies. Once they throw off their shackles and deny superprofits to the west, the entire rotten house of cards comes tumbling down.
The world revolution won't come from multipolarity, it will come from the third world oppressed nations once they're no longer under the western boot and imperialist COINTELPRO stormtroopers snuffing out internal social movements. They'll be more free to act once western imperialist military bases are removed from their territory, and to overthrow their own bourgeoisie. Meanwhile firstoids will eat each other alive once the steady flow of socdem treats made possible by colonial exploitation comes to a halt. Multipolarity is merely step one of the liberation.
And as for Russia and China, they have no interest in involving themselves in these countries to such an extent as France or burgerland. They'll cooperate with the local bourgeoisie to pull off development projects but they're not putting in glowies to support the local equivalent of mujahideen or Ukronazis to kill off the opposition. Socialists in those countries will be freer to act than under western occupation.
>>583732Again You don't understand how this all works because you are working off of an unmarxist and idealist understanding of the world. You are completely ignoring the laws of capitalist imperialism. For one, the west is not a single solid bloc but a league of imperialists so, If it brakes up you still have to deal with the many imperialists states who will seek to fill the void left in the wake of the brake up. Also these local social movements will still have to contend with compradors backed by non western imperialists and remnant imperialist states like turkey and Germany, so they won't be as free as you make it out to be. We also have no idea if these social movements will take a progressive character(IE Communist and Socialist) or a reactionary one. In the case of reaction we can see these states working with imperialists rather then against them.
>Meanwhile firstoids will eat each other alive once the steady flow of socdem treats made possible by colonial exploitation comes to a halt. This relies on a vulgarization of labor aristocracy. The majority of people in the first world don't receive the benefits of empire so this wouldn't happen. There will be a crisis in the middle class but, it'll be resolved by a turn to fascism, hyper austerity, or a war for new markets.
>And as for Russia and China, they have no interest in involving themselves in these countries to such an extent as France or burgerland.unmarxist take. Russia is a capitalist state and will seek to secure new markets and maintain old ones like what we saw in Kazakhstan. To pretend that Russia or even Dengist china are above the laws of capitalist imperialism is idealist at best.
>they're not putting in glowies to support the local equivalent of mujahideen The Chinese supported the mujahideen against the soviets and are cutting deals with the Taliban. China has always done things in it's interest, even at the expense of local progressive forces. It invaded Vietnam in support of pol pot and backed anti ML insurgents in Angola. To act like China has a record of non-interventionism shows your lack of knowledge on maoist and dengist china.
Anon just read Lenin it not that hard to understand.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/index.htm\ Even some Enver Hoxha will do you some good.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/1977/07/07.htm >>583744Not him but trying to tell other people that they aren't Marxist while recommending ultra stuff like Hoxha is funny. The people who are furthest away from a material analysis always seem to be the people who like throwing around the most.
>You are completely ignoring the laws of capitalist imperialism. For one, the west is not a single solid bloc but a league of imperialists so, If it brakes up you still have to deal with the many imperialists states who will seek to fill the void left in the wake of the brake up.This doesn't matter the individual will always be weaker than the collective, smaller imperial powers will fight amongst themselves and destroy each other like what happened during the world wars. They will be unable to enforce their will on the developing world much if at all. Those world wars are what directly led to the intial wave of decolonization, it was only after the western bloc reconstituted itself after WW2 that neo colonialism came back in full force and its no coincidence that around the same time the 50s to 70s that labour movements in the west had their backs broken by crackdowns. They could afford to get away with this due to the post war boom and beginning of neo colonialism.
>This relies on a vulgarization of labor aristocracy. The majority of people in the first world don't receive the benefits of empire so this wouldn't happen. There will be a crisis in the middle class but, it'll be resolved by a turn to fascism, hyper austerity, or a war for new markets. Being spooked by the fascism scare in 2023 is hilarious from someone claiming to have a material understanding of the world. Fascism was a unique ideological trend that arose from the fall of the last remenants of feudalism in european nations combined with the rise of bougeois nationalism, any "Fascism" that arises in the modern day will be eaten alive by infighting and be co opted by captialism completely.We saw this with the "Alt-Right" wave of the 2010s which was subsumed entirely into culture war meaninglessness. The time in history for fascism to be a real threat has ran out. At best it will be a desperate attempt to brainwash the proletarian to adopt a bourgeois mindset in order to justify contiuning capitalism eternally. Besides it doesn't matter what form your existence takes in the first world be it a homeless person, industrial worker, or CEO you are benefiting from imperial exploitation by simply living in imperial society. Being homeless in the USA is far better than being homeless in Niger.
>unmarxist take. Russia is a capitalist state and will seek to secure new markets and maintain old ones like what we saw in Kazakhstan. To pretend that Russia or even Dengist china are above the laws of capitalist imperialism is idealist at best.Again Russia has no ability to enforce its will hegemonically, the best it can do is negotiate a better deal than the west which will be inherently less exploitative by the need to undercut competing imperial powers. This is a good thing no matter how one frames it. Merely parroting marxist theory doesn't make one a marxist knowing the words and understanding them are two entirely different things. One must be able to think independently from marxist dogma and craft new conclusions to fit changing material conditions instead of trying to fit previous assumptions into the modern context.
History is inevitable, former imperial powers may turn to reactionary drivel but at the end of the day there simply is no more fuel for capitalism left in the gas tank. The rate of profit continues to decline and the treats will quickly run out.The bourgeoisies' days are numbered and no amount of fascism, murder, or idealism is going to stop that.
<From 2022:While Niger finds itself on the front line with the prospect of the withdrawal of French and European forces from Mali, Mohamed Bazoum had convened a Conference of Executives, which brought together the country's political, administrative and social elite at the amphitheater in the center of Mahatma Gandhi lectures. The objective was above all to convince Nigeriens of the need to welcome the European Takuba force, in a climate of growing hostility towards France and its allies, including in Niger.
In more than an hour and a half, without notes but with passion, President Bazoum reminded his compatriots of the history of the crisis, which he traced back to the fall of Colonel Gaddafi, without ignoring its deep roots, particularly in within the Tuareg and Toubou communities that went into rebellion in the 1990s and 2007. Nostalgic for the peace that had disappeared, he spoke of the time when Nigerien soldiers could lead “a whole career without ever having to deal with an enemy.”
“We tipped over into violence and, subsequently, outright into war from 2011. This ordeal was not foreseeable for us. We weren't prepared for it."
>At the source of the Tuareg rebellionsThe base of the country's relative solidity in the crisis is to be credited to Mahamadou Issoufou who, from his arrival, involved the Tuareg and Toubou communities in the management of the country, in particular by distributing posts within them. “We have implemented governance that puts all our compatriots at ease and that does not give any of them the feeling that they are not integrated by the Republic. (…) We succeeded in this policy with great success because today, I am going to tell you, the problem in Mali lies in the fact that it has not been done. (…) In Mali, they don't have more Tuaregs than us, no more Arabs than us, but since 2012, two-thirds of their territory escapes the expression of state sovereignty. »
"I want our citizens to know that this was a significant moment and something on which we were able to build institutions that have remained strong."
Mohamed Bazoum then painted the picture of a country besieged on all its borders, "the country most exposed to terrorist organizations, because we are facing several outbreaks at the same time". Indeed, he recalled, terrorism developed in central Mali before spreading “to neighboring territories, Burkina Faso and Niger, to become a characteristic phenomenon of the countries of the Central Sahel. In the west of the country, the Islamic State in the Greater Sahara, since 2015, and the Katiba Macina affiliated with the other jihadist franchise, since 2019, have thus struck on both banks of the river.
In the south-east, Niger has been confronting Boko Haram since 2015. Since 2018, it has also been confronted with widespread banditry in the south, all along the border with Nigeria: "highway bandits with military capabilities typical of terrorist organizations. (…) They cross the border, kidnap our citizens, steal their cattle and demand the payment of ransoms. Finally, in the northeast, Libya, “a large platform on which criminal organizations that thrive in trafficking operate. »
>Niger better off than MaliIn this harsh context, President Bazoum believes that Niger has nothing to be ashamed of its record, comparing itself to its two direct neighbours, Mali and Burkina Faso: “we are even a little poorer than them. »
“We have a million km more than Burkina Faso in areas where, on our border, we don't have a single soldier from neighboring countries. This is the case with Libya. This is the case with Mali. On 800,000 km2, the few small advanced military posts that we had in front of us and with which we coordinated a little bit at a given time, they were abandoned, because the terrorists overwhelmed our Malian brothers. Today (…), to find a Malian soldier, you have to go as far as Menaka, as far as Ansango, as far as Gao. »
Mohamed Bazoum also, for the first time, provided figures for Nigerien military personnel. “We tripled them. Our desire is to reach 50,000 soldiers by 2025. We are at 30,000. When we came, they were 11,000.” One rifle per soldier is another objective achieved, according to him, by the regime socialist. “We have exponentially increased the number of vehicles used by our defense and security forces; we acquired modern equipment, guns, planes; we have improved the bonuses and we have developed the concept of operations,” he continued. In total, the personnel engaged in operations, throughout the territory, number 11,761. They must be provided with “fuel, food, ammunition, health, clothing and travel allowances.
“These are painful, tough, difficult operations for our soldiers. But they held on. And they are holding up,” he said, to loud applause from the audience.
>Bygone neo-sankarist thesesThe President has responded vigorously to the criticisms of Nigeriens who reproach him for welcoming the future French redeployment on his territory. To those nostalgic for General Seyni Kountché (who had asked the French contingent to leave), he replied that there was, at that time, no threat, ironically on the fact that the French had no elsewhere not prevented the coup against Diori Amani. He worked for a long time to dismantle “received ideas recycled by people who, perhaps, do not understand their meaning”, rejecting “neo-sankarist, third-worldist theses of bygone eras. »
He welcomed the training provided by friendly countries, especially to special forces. “It in no way calls into question our sovereignty. We would like our soldiers not to be well trained? Thanks to the assistance of our partners (…) we have benefited from equipment and infrastructures that we could never have had and which have considerably improved the capacities of our armies”, he added, quoting pell-mell. mixes planes, vehicles, military bases.
“I saw the equipment, I saw the infrastructure! How can we be blamed for having relations with these people, we who have a duty to ensure the security of our citizens by strengthening the capacities of our forces. Is this a fair trial? Ah, they are sold to white people! he quipped. »
>A structural budgetary dependenceThe toughest attack was yet to come. It targeted student trade unionists, civil servants, Nigerien citizens in general. “Sovereignty… My dear friends, I would like you to know that 40% of our budget is provided by external assistance from these Western countries. So sovereignty for sovereignty, why don't we say we don't need their money? Let's be sovereign until the end! At that time, you must not take the scholarships that are given to you, acquired through the assistance of external aid, do not take salaries, do not walk on the roads: all the roads you see here are donations of the European Union,” he continued, listing a dozen paved roads in the country.
This structural financial dependence, he added, is not unique to Niger. It is the fact of all the poor countries in Africa or outside the continent.
He went on to challenge the theory of plundering Africa's resources. “When people say that Westerners come to get our raw materials, they don't know what they are talking about. “When the West was in an economy governed by the requirement of the primitive accumulation of capital, this Europe needed raw materials to develop and it is from this that the need arose, in within the framework of their rivalry between Western powers, to go and conquer the world for these raw materials. (…) But today, they no longer need it. Today, the economy has become totally financialized, digitalized. »
>France, an ogreConcerning France, Mohamed Bazoum drew on his own memories of a Marxist militant, to assert that “the France that we knew and that we fought in the 1970s was a France that supported coups d'etat, all dirty tricks. We who had been fed on these Third World theories, we accused France of all the sins of Israel. This time, France says it is against the coup (in Mali). And we treat it as if it were the France of Jacques Foccart! France is no longer a reality but a concept. France is an ogre. »
Driving the point home, he denied that the French commitment was linked to the exploitation of uranium from Niger, whose prices collapsed after the Fukushima accident. “Between France and us, there is a uranium mine which produces 2,000 tons per year. The ton sells for 50,000 CFA francs; that's 100 billion CFA francs. I have all my uranium, but nobody wants to invest to exploit it! You can't tell me that France, which buys its uranium in Kazakhstan and Canada, wants to impose things on me because there is uranium in Niger! It is I who beg them to make me Imouraren, the future giant mine”.
Returning to the genesis of the French intervention in Mali, he recalled painful memories and spared little African self-esteem. “When the terrorists launched their assault on Bamako, all West African heads of state pleaded with the French authorities to intervene. Mali was sovereign, right? Why didn't Mali fight back and why didn't Africans come to Mali's rescue? They begged: Dan Allah, Dan Allah, Holland! We must intervene! And speaking of the French soldiers, he continued in these terms: “And they stayed, the poor, because they had to stay. »
>A complex with regard to Westerners?For the President of Niger, it was up to the Malians to “organise themselves to do without the others, the Europeans and the French. “It is up to our states to ensure that, once we have been assisted, we do without this assistance. And when I hear the Africans – and I am really disappointed and sad – say that they (the French) stayed nine years and that they did not put an end to terrorism… But what do we have we done to put an end to terrorism, we Africans? Don't we remain in a complex relationship vis-à-vis Westerners? We have to get rid of this mentality. »
Mohamed Bazoum did not hide the limits of military action in the context of the country's poverty. “We don't have the means to keep all our villages. My reality is determined by my limited means. My soldiers, there are 12,000 in operation. If next to them, I can place 6 to 700 Europeans, who have helicopters, who will work with them, that's the spirit of Takuba! And that's going to be the spirit of Barkhane. I have my soldiers, I have my FDS. But I need their support, and they have to be on the ground too, a reduced ground component with aerial capabilities. »
Fearing the vacuum created by the forthcoming departure of French and European forces from the three-border area, the President told how, within ECOWAS, the plan for the redeployment in Niger of part of these forces had been formed. “We agreed, at our request – we are the requesters – that they stay in the Sahel and see how we can deploy them. »
>An assumed pragmatismMuch clearer than European decision-makers, who willingly take refuge behind the obscure "war against terrorism", Mohamed Bazoum formulated the reasons for their presence in the Sahel as follows: "They consider that we are neighbors and that the problems of Africa are, in some ways, their problems too. They believe that if terrorism thrives here, this violence can carry over to their homes. And the destruction of our economies will push many Africans to migrate to Europe, simply because it's the way out. »
Evoking Wagner and Russia, very popular lately on social networks in West Africa, the Nigerien President remained just as pragmatic. “We are told that we must change allies. I don't mind. All our war planes, the Sukhoi, we bought them from Russia. The helicopters, we bought them from Russia. (…) If the Russians want to help us, we are ready. But a private security company I can't afford to hire because it seems to cost $10,000 a month per soldier. For 1000 men, that would be 7 and a half billion. But if I have 7 billion per month, I would use that to buy helicopters for my soldiers! »
Against the grain of the speech of denigration of the French army which is all the rage in the Sahel, he considered "excellent" the results of Barkhane in Mali. “Serval killed 600 terrorists in Mali. Barkhane killed 2,223 jihadists. That's 2,800 jihadists. And those who are killed are generally those who expose themselves, who fight, who take risks. (…) They did more than that. They killed the main leaders.” And to list a dozen executives of Al Morabitoune, AQIM, Ansar Dine and GNIM killed by the French army. With, sometimes, a hint of admiration in his voice. “Droukdel: quite simply the Algerian boss of AQIM, the most dangerous man who can exist! Mokhtar Belmokhtar, the French hunted him down and killed him in Libya. Bay Ag Bakabo, the one who killed Ghislaine Dupont. To the Islamic State, Abu Walid Al Sahraoui, the leader himself. »
https://mondafrique.com/politique/la-rude-et-courageuse-franchise-du-president-nigerien-mohamed-bazoum/ >>583736>Even if you take the worst case scenario that libs come up with (That they are just trading Russia for the west, which is bullshit) Russia is fundamentally less advanced in capitalism than that of the Western Bloc. Based post. No other entity has the institutional multi-generational experience needed to maintain ruthless hegemony like the Anglo-West imo. Anyone else is a massive improvement for African states, especially when new partners also have experience of western imperialism.
>When the tap gets cut off for westerners the Bourgeoisie will have to go back to exploiting us, and then Marx's prediction that the most advanced capitalist nations being the birthplace of capitalism will come true.We also get this too. Another win-win situation.
>>583757>all the sahel have military coups that throw out pro west puppet and ask for french military to leave, partly thank to rising multipolarity offering them potential alternatives, partly because westoids have fucked the region so much there are jihadists everywhere but the corrupt puppet comprador regimes cant do shit about it<you're reading too much into it !with a nice reddit spacing on top.
>>583760shit bait indeed
>muh tribal leadersall the juntas have clearly proclaimed a program of national mobilization and pan africanism.
Sankara has also been invoked as a reference and example to follow.
>>583772Lol. Where teh fuck in africa is being colonized by russia?
You people are insane sometimes. jfc.
>>583777western colonialism = freedom
no western colonialism = the poor african subhumans are opressed and need to be liberated with NATO bombs
ECOWAS Sanctions: Nigeria Cuts Off Power Supply To Niger Republic Cities
<A number of cities in the Niger Republic are currently experiencing prolonged blackouts after Nigeria cut its power supply to the neighbouring West African country.>According to Nigelec, an electricity company in Niger, the development followed an emergency meeting by the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), where sanctions, including freezing utility services, were imposed on the Niger Republic over its coup.https://saharareporters.com/2023/08/02/ecowas-sanctions-nigeria-cuts-power-supply-niger-republic-citiesPolitical Instability in Niger: UK backs move by ECOWAS to reinstate Bazoum
<Visiting UK Foreign Secretary, James Cleverly, on Wednesday, said his country backs the wide range of sanctions announced by the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) against the military junta in the Niger Republic.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/political-instability-in-niger-uk-backs-move-by-ecowas-to-reinstate-bazoum/ar-AA1eGZOYWhat would West African bloc's threat to use force to restore democracy in Niger look like?<West Africa’s regional bloc known as ECOWAS has threatened the use of force if the ousted president of Niger is not reinstated within one week, but how the body would carry out the threat remains unclear<The 15-nation bloc summoned its defense chiefs to discuss its threat to “take all measures necessary (that) may include the use of force” if ousted Nigerien President Mohamed Bazoum is not reinstated within one week. ECOWAS is resolved to use military force after economic and travel sanctions used against the coup plotters failed, according to a Western diplomat in Niamey who did not want to be identified for security reasons.>But here's what we can tell so far on how such a military option could play out:https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ecowas-threat-force-restore-democracy-niger-101903642Burkina Faso and Mali vow to fight if Niger attacked <THE crisis in Niger deepened today as some of the country’s neighbours lined up in support of the military group that staged a coup last Wednesday.>A joint statement from the military-controlled governments of Burkina Faso and Mali warned that “any military intervention against Niger would be tantamount to a declaration of war against Burkina Faso and Mali.” The statement read by Colonel Abdoulaye Maiga, Mali’s state minister for territorial administration and decentralisation, said the “disastrous consequences of a military intervention in Niger” would end up destabilising the whole region.https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/burkina-faso-and-mali-vow-to-fight-if-niger-attacked>>583786How many refugees should I expect to arrive if a war starts?
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>>583798A lot considering that Nigeria already has uhh… Hundreds of thousands of refugees inside Niger?
If NAFO doesn't quickly get btfo then they will have to flee, plus there would be new refugees of course…
>>583800Yea right.
just like SA.
lmfao.
>>583803SA is still fucked after Apartheid - ANC is doing nothing while whitey is picking their pockets
hopefully EFF will address this with a
>radical land reform >>583730>I suggest you read lenin to get a better under standing of what the real fight looks like. You mean the one that died over a hundred years ago in Germany?
>>583749This kills the bothsideist
>>583785Or dare I say it not just a lettuceburger… but a nothingburger
Here is a link to a highly informative video by Black Red Guard which gives an eloquent rundown of what is really happening in West Africa from a Maoist perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaS4VsXpLh , ✊😜!
>>583815Algeria was the other settler colony on the continent, should South Africa have taken the Algerian solution ?
>>583820 Thats Rojava, do you think they use the arab script in Ukraine ?
>>583824there are pro-ukrainian ISIS.
>>1558056Both New Caledonia and Northern Ireland are statelets created by desperate colonial empires trying to keep a remnant of their former empires who are currently opressing the local population, but if I posted a picture of New Caledonia's flag and you'd talk about Northern Ireland you'd just be an idiot.
>>583829it really depends on if Nigeria will commit or not
Frenchies putting boots on the ground (apart from advisors and those few foreign legion troops that are there) seems unlikely, they will probably only deliver air and materiel support
but for them to be able to give support, at least one of the ECOWAS countries needs to invade
>>583835>Ireland is still dominated by British imperialism,And EU imperialism.
The whole attempted revolution, the good friday agreement, only to accept new masters.
sad..
>>583842Are you really this proud of this shitty paragraph that you must spam it?
jesus that is pathetic.
I like to lurk on r/neoliberal because the seething about stuff like this is pretty funny. Relevant article:
>Biden administration unwilling to call Niger coup a ‘coup’https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/31/biden-administration-unwilling-to-call-niger-coup-a-coup-00109035Everything's coming up Malihouse
>>583841Well that goes without saying.
To return the discussion back on Niger, because this coup is not led by progressive forces it will not turn the country on to the path of independent socialist development like with Cuba or Allende's Chile. Rather we may see the country go the same way as Egypt where development is used to empower the top brass of the military and local capitalist class. Like with Egypt it will have some autonomy when it comes to foreign & domestic policy but still need the support and backing of foreign capital and or an imperialist power to maintain control. If we believe the Algerians then we can already see that this coup is being headed by foreign capitalists such as the UAE.
Lastly, I want to fight back against what
>>583821 said. We must stress that there is a difference between Independent capitalist and socialist development, some anons here don't seem to understand that. If Niger develops with capitalist methods as India, South Africa and Sudan did then we will see a massive disparity of wealth between the proletariat & peasantry and the local capitalist class. The benefits of development will go to the ruling class and their supporters rather then the farming towns and industrial cities where workers and peasants live. We can see this most clearly in Venezuela were the recent switch from socialist to capitalist development has only benefited the middle and upper classes. Independent development must be socialist or else it's just going to reproduce the same conditions that the people already live under.
>>583851Anon some people here literally believe that there are no bourgeoisie in Africa. You are arguing against people who live purely in a fantasy reality.
I know i keep bringing it back to SA but when SA had so much, the ANC had the political capital to do what it wanted, it could have turned the country in to the jewel of africa, a leftist project for all to aspire to.. the future at it's plate.. and yet look at it today.
I do not see how one could look at any of the series of coups in west Africa and see anything particularly progressive inherently in them, it even being to early to tell if this will really affect the french in the real way.
>>583857They just want to reassert hegemony/wholesome chungus democracy, depending on how honest they are. Some of them have noticed that whining about Wagner is a meme as that means that Wagner is offering a better deal than France.
>>583858>this coup is not led by progressive forcesYou should have stopped reading there, Burkina Faso is being run by Sankarists again. Time for whitepills.
>>583850How do you square hosting US troops and bases with expelling the French ones and lip servicing anti-imperialism/colonialism? Is it because the US would benefit from weakening
Europe?
It's looking like a much more complex play than just "a coup".
>>583850Maybe the US is *not at all* bothered by the development in which *they* get to be a major party in regulating France's supply of Uranium.
Maybe it's time for France to lose it's energy independence.
Maybe "fuck the EU" and they are finishing the job after Nordstream and self-sanctions.
>>583870lmao did you expect them to seize the mines as soon as they took power, when the imperialists are already threatening war ?
fucking glowing moron, using marxist rhetoric incorrectly just to shit on any real force struggling against imperialism
>>583795>>583705Seconding for more info, who was the more pro West candidate in the last election?
I remember a lot of anger and skepticism on Twitter over the election results but don't have a sense of how the different candidates were positioned geopolitically speaking
Nigeria overturning its government and becoming the next aes state after its people reject a colonial motivated war waged by an unpopular bourgeois president is obviously the best case scenario, but do people here have any fingers on the pulse of the local population other than skimming Twitter comments? Is there a significant organised left to speak of?
Since this is the closest to an active Africa thread there is right now.
https://archive.is/ALGwqDozens injured after protesters storm Eritrean festival in Stockholm<Opponents of Eritrean government tore down tents and set cars on fire, with ‘around 100’ people arrestedWestern lapdogs can't contain themselves.
>>583871They (I mean, the Nigérien government) already co-own the mines, so why would they seize them?
They need foreign expertise and capital to keep operating them.
So they won't seize anything, the mines will keep operating, but instead of the friends of the former President getting their cut it will be friends of the putschist generals.
France has traded uranium with Niger through something like 12 different regimes since the 1950s.
>>583872>Seconding for more info, who was the more pro West candidate in the last election?Pretty sure they all are, but probably Atiku Abubakar (who lost). He's the guy in the middle here. Tinubu (on the left, the current president) was more pro-China but he's neutral. Atiku Abubakar criticized Tinubu's predecessor from the same party for making deals with China.
The candidate who placed third, Peter Obi, is a huge Sinaboo though whose base of supporters was among younger people in Lagos… but he's also a neolib who LARPs as Obama.
I dunno if there's much of a difference. I don't know a lot about the country but it seems like corruption is far and away the no. 1 issue. Politicians are just blazingly crooked and steal everything so nothing gets done. I met a Nigerian mathematician who liked Tinubu's predecessor Bukhari (same party) more than the other guy and I've read he made corruption an issue.
>>583881BF is one of the main instigators and supporters of the alliance, whining about the credentials of other members for socialist purity will only lead to their downfall. The success of BF is the success of socialists, and BF has thrown their lot in with the alliance.
All these people whining about muh both sides, don't make any mistake about their intentions. They are either idiots or shills. The only socialist or even communist faction involved is the Burkinabe junta, so we should rally behind them.
These eternal faggots are whining about Niger, an opportunist member maybe, for not immediately trashing their economy. It's an attack on the anti-imperialist alliance which includes communists. Don't fall for their tricks, they just want NATO to roll in and re-establish the Funko-Pop mines and pick everyone off one by one.
>>583877What word precisely?
I guess if they seize the government they seize the shares of the mines owned by the government. It's a good question actually; will foreign power recognize that government? I suppose they will, eventually.
From the point of view of France, they're supporting the democratic guy because he is working with them. But they are certainly happy to support the non-democratic guys when they are working with them. Do you notice the pattern here?
>>583893if niger doesnt fold instantly and nigeria get bogged down in an unpopular war on the behalf of its neocolonial master, i can definitely see this happening. Would definitely be the best case scenario if war start.
Even better would be a preventive coup by the nigerian military lmao
but lets try to contain our optimism, they might just get crushed ruthlessly
>>583896>posting a state department plantwew
This is old news from months ago. BF has always had ties with NK up until 2017 with a resuming of trade this year confirmed back in March.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/burkina-faso-to-resume-diplomatic-relations-with-north-korea/2859013>>583897>muh bothsidistsThis is a good thing actually, and has always been a good thing regarding BF and NK. Fuck you campist pig.
>>583904>In any case, our people will never accept to take part in an aggression against the brotherly people of Niger. All those who are manipulated by France and who play this dangerous game must know that our people and all the peoples of our region will unite against them in fierce resistance. The Communist Party of Benin solemnly warns Patrice Talon against participating in any aggression against the brotherly people of Niger and other peoples of the sub-region. The African peoples and those of our sub-region are engaged in a fight to the death against the imperialist powers, and in particular against Franco-Africa. All those who oppose this inexorable march will be consigned to the dustbin of history.
>It's now confirmed! "The mood swing of the presidential guard on Wednesday July 26, 2023 turned out to be a full-scale coup d'état in Niger, with the overthrow of President Bazoum. The communiqué issued by the Armed Forces General Staff today, July 27, is the epilogue. Yet another coup d'état. And this, despite the anti-coup "fatwa" pronounced by the recently consecrated New Emperor of ECOWAS, Mohamed Tinubu; despite the "mission" entrusted to the President of Benin, Patrice Talon. As if on cue, the putschists stigmatized the "poor economic and security governance" of the deposed rulers. Yes, a new coup d'état in West Africa, in riposte, in defiance, one would say, to this ECOWAS dictate and all the dangers it may entail for the sovereignty and security of the peoples of the West African sub-region. This situation is also well perceived in the Communiqué d'Etat-major des Armées Nigériennes when it stresses that "Any external military intervention from any source whatsoever, would risk disastrous and uncontrollable consequences for our populations and chaos for our country"
>As said, in the face of this new coup d'état, it's not a question of rejoicing (although that can legitimately be observed) or crying. It's simply a question of recognizing the reality in front of us. These coups d'état are nothing more than the expression of the patriotic convulsions of the people of West Africa, in its French-speaking zone, which is one step behind its English-speaking neighbor. Whatever the future direction of the new putschist rulers and masters of the moment in Niger, patriotic popular motives and pressures are and remain strong. This patriotic wind of Dignity is pushing and will inevitably push all political players in Niger in this direction, at the risk (for those who think they are opposed) of being swept away by History, whatever the will of the colonialist forces of Colonial France, now overtaken by the Awakening of the Peoples. >>583892The president of Niger has been kidnapped by military officers who staged a coup. You're a Nigerian Panther commando. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president of Niger?
>>583895Do we even know if there are any Wagner guys in Niger rn
Or is that just Prigozhin being like "hey coup dudes, we're available… for a price." Because they cost money.
https://archive.is/oRUGmIt has happened
I repeat, the call for support has happened
according to western analistsNiger’s junta rulers ask for help from Russian group Wagner as it faces military intervention threat according to some analysts we ask lmaoFucking speculative journos
>>583932Some schizoid imbeciles don't get how neocolonialism work and think Macron has some puppets he makes dance when he wants, while maintaining all terrorist groups are glowops and all local conflicts are fabricated by various western agencies. It's easier to go with that than study at least a little the region and its history.
That being said, there is a case to be made about western support toward various armed groups
and the governments they are fighting, but all the evidence is circumstantial at best.
>>583928>wenobody here believe wagner or russia is responsible for the coups retard
>conflict between nomadic and settled tribes in the Sahelthe neolib policies lead to straight up abandon and ransacking on parts of the territory and its population, which ofc drives conflict.
the coups are about actual nationalists getting mad at the corrupt government lining its pocket and licking westoids boots while the army guys dont get paid, and westoid solution to the security problems being bombing the shit out of the people which causes even more terrorism rather than fixing the problem (and it allow them to keep their military bases and keep fucking with the region).
All the instability is also mostly caused in the first place by westoid destroying states and arming djihadists.
That the actual groups forms on tribal lines is irrelevant to what actually cause and drive the conflict
>>583938i havent decided yet
>>583939speak for yourself
>>583937>(4) Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this section:->(a) the President shall not declare a state of war between the Federation and another country except with the sanction of a resolution of both Houses of the National Assembly, sitting in a joint session; and>(b) except with the prior approval of the Senate, no member of the armed forces of the Federation shall be deployed on combat duty outside Nigeria.
<(5) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (4) of this section, the President, in consultation with the National Defence Council, may deploy members of the armed forces of the Federation on a limited combat duty outside Nigeria if he is satisfied that the national security is under imminent threat or danger: <Provided that the President shall, within seven days of actual combat engagement, seek the consent of the Senate and the Senate shall thereafter give or refuse the said consent within 14 days.
>G - National Defence Council >16. The National Defence Council shall comprise the following members –>(a) the President who shall be the Chairman;>(b) the Vice-President who shall be the Deputy Chairman;>(c) the Minister of the Government of the Federation responsible for defence;>(d) the Chief of Defence Staff;>(e) the Chief of Army Staff;>(f) the Chief of Naval Staff;>(g) the Chief of Air Staff; and>(h) such other members as the President may appoint.
>(2) The powers conferred on the President by subsection (1) of this section shall include power to appoint the Chief of Defence staff, the Chief of Army Staff, the Chief of Naval Staff, the Chief of Air Staff and heads of any other branches of the armed forces of the Federation as may be established by an Act of the National Assembly. What "limited combat" is is not defined in the constitution. But the President
can go around the Senate, based on his fees-fees as confirmed by a council he himself appoints.
Lolwat
From Chi-Town bagman to ECOWAS chairman: meet the former money launderer leading the push to invade Nigerhttps://thegrayzone.com/2023/08/05/bagman-ecowas-chairman-invade-niger/<Since the overthrow of Niger’s US-friendly government, West African nations of the ECOWAS bloc have threatened an invasion of their neighbor.Before leading the charge for intervention, ECOWAS chair Bola Tinubu spent years laundering millions for heroin dealers in Chicago, and has since been ensnared in numerous corruption scandals.
>>583920Not sure I like the minimization of neocolonialism and how important the uranium is to France.
If any economy loses 15% of anything critical to its functioning, that's pretty important. If 15% of a harvest gets wiped out, food prices will skyrocket. And buying the uranium from Canada will cause them to miss out on the superprofits gained from exploiting colonial vassals.
This guy needs to stop being such an illiterate retard or wilfully obscuring the facts.
>>583944Uranium is a small part of the price of nuclear power. It's a rock so you can basically stockpile it (and France has years worth of production stockpiled).
It's basically a non issue.
Because you're all, ahem, "enlightened" marxists your immediate analysis of the situation must be that the conflict is because of the one single operating mine France has there, and not centuries old conflicts between various tribes in Africa.
You only ever see Africans as puppets being manipulated by foreign powers, people with zero agency, who are unable to be in control of their own destiny and history.
So, yes, all of this has to be for this single operating uranium mine, because it fits into the "imperialistic West" vs. "noble savage Africans being exploited".
>>583949you're clearly trying to be critical of the narrative, but offer virtually no alternative. I mean, what does tribal conflicts have to do with literal resources and economic domination?
Are we to sweep these all under the rug because you pretend that acknowledging these things is akin to calling Africans "noble savages?" (btw "noble savage" is a term I've only seen given to Native Americans exclusively). take a bath and wash the filthy excrement of chauvinism from your brain.
>>583953My point is the conflicts in that region, for centuries, have been along ethnic lines, because nomadic tribes from the North are competing for resources with sedentary tribes from the south of the Sahel.
Under French colonization, those conflicts were subdued because the French occupier made sure to keep peace (through superior firepower) while making sure no one starved.
Now that French has decolonized, the old conflicts are re-appearing, with the differences that now we have arbitrary borders drawn over various countries that did not exist before, and putting in a same democratic system people from various ethnic groups, with widely different demographics, so it's just going to be a series of elections and coups, as the winner-take-all approach of democracy does not work when you mix minority and majority groups.
What I am criticizing is the implicit racial essentialism in this discussion where everyone basically assumes that Africans do not have any agency, and do not have any history beside whatever their relations with the west are.
So, yes, the West is involved, yes rich Gulf countries are involved and funding Jihadi groups, yes Russia is involved through Wagner and China is involved.
But Africans aren't puppets whose life is entirely controlled by those outside forces. They have their own motivations and rational for conflict.
>>1563310One has to wonder why they don't reign it in a bit lel. Like, come on, have someone take a look before the post goes live to maybe not say the quiet part aloud so often. I feel like such task, which ChatGPT was outsourcing to data entry farms in Africa, may be delegated to the Twitter hivemind and the "quality" of output measured by "social media sucess". But that seems like such a folly when one can be a few steps short of Hitler in the proper geopolitical context and find mainstream acceptance. Or when the early training can be easily co-opted by small-ish numbers , for lulz, like it tends to happen to every chatbot which learns from the public.
It seem that one was deleted, but it just posted another banger:
https://n.opnxng.com/Terror_Alarm/status/1688176464724688897#m>stole from France >>583957Yes, I do. That's what I'm saying.
It's a very accurate portrayal of modern African history told by the greatest minds in Hollywood.
>>583861How then they would mantain a state with no USSR to commerce with?
Walking like a man to an execution by sanctions is how I see it.
>>583949What is a small part? Nuclear power is already tremendously expensive, 5% or 15% of a fuck lot isn't nothing.
Furthermore Orano doesn't have one mine in Niger but three. EDF is already bankrupt, paying the political cost of Kazakh uranium or the healthcare and benefits of Canadians workers is non ideal while they could cheaply exploit Nigerian miners and let them die of poisoning while letting the mining waste being blown by the wind.
While I agree that Africans countries have some degree of agency - well at least their national bourgeoisie do - and that neocolonialism doesn't work with puppets on strings imperialism is a very real thing that actually exist and you should be precise in your assessments if you ask people to do the same about history, geopolitics and the motivations of the different players here.
>>583963Uranium from Niger represents 20% of French uranium imports.
Uranium itself represents about 5% of the cost of nuclear power.
So uranium from Niger represents 1% of the cost of French nuclear power.
The reason Macron is getting agitated is because he has the neocolonial mindset of civilizing and helping Africa, and he is butthurt that Le Epic Multicultural African Democracy got overthrown.
Niger and more generally the entire Sahel region is a net cost to France and Macron should continue Chirac's policy of getting out instead of fighting Jihadis militias that keep popping up from everywhere with no end.
>>583969But I mean you realize the total cost of the french nuclear program is in the trillions right? Also what's the cost of not having 20% of your electrical output? What's the cost of not having fissile material for your nuclear weapons? Anyway:
>Fuel costs account for about 28% of a nuclear plant's operating expenses.[51] As of 2013, half the cost of reactor fuel was taken up by enrichment and fabrication, so that the cost of the uranium concentrate raw material was 14 percent of operating costs.[52] Doubling the price of uranium would add about 10% to the cost of electricity produced in existing nuclear plantsOf course the real cost will be higher prices of uranium, and electricity is already very expensive in France so this will be a further blow to the economy and the people. Yeah Sahel is a net cost to France but so is nuclear energy and they're stuck with it for now. Loosing a source of supply
and power in the region is absolutely not a good thing from the pov of the French bourgeoisie. This is not simply the neocolonial mindset, like Putin did not invade ukraine (only) because of an imperial mindset but for real existing geopolitical reasons.
>>583974Guys I understand you are marxists, but common, let's not completely ignore how markets work.
France has years of uranium stockpiled. Even if Niger production goes to zero (pro tip: it won't) they will buy more from Kazakhstan, Canada, Australia, etc.
>>583977>A highly informed source in Niger tells us that the reason why the military moved against Bazoum is that>“he’s corrupt, a pawn of France. Nigerians were fed up with him and his gang. They are in the process of arresting the members of the deposed system, who embezzled public funds, many of whom have taken refuge in foreign embassies.”>The issue of corruption hangs over Niger, a country with one of the world’s most lucrative uranium deposits. The “corruption” that is talked about in Niger is not about petty bribes by government officials, but about an entire structure — developed during French colonial rule — that prevents Niger from establishing sovereignty over its raw materials and over its development.>At the heart of the “corruption” is the so-called joint venture between Niger and France called Société des Mines de l’Aïr (Somaïr), which owns and operates the uranium industry in the country.>Strikingly, 85 percent of Somaïr is owned by France’s Atomic Energy Commission and two French companies, while only 15 percent is owned by Niger’s government.>Niger produces over 5 percent of the world’s uranium, but its uranium is of a very high quality. Half of Niger’s export receipts are from sales of uranium, oil, and gold. One in three lightbulbs in France are powered by uranium from Niger, at the same time as 42 percent of the African country’s population lived below the poverty line. >>583969>Uranium from Niger represents 20% of French uranium imports.only if you dont count the uranium exploited in niger but refined in canada, italy or belgium
>>583975>they will buy more from Kazakhstan, Canada, Australiamost of those are anglo, thats a big loss of sovereignty and a significant increase in cost (you dont think they paid what it was really worth do you ?)
uranium export were half of the state export revenue despite niger owning only 15% !
>>583954>French occupier made sure to keep peace (through superior firepower) while making sure no one starved.>while making sure no one starved.what the fuck are you talking about retard. colonial occupation forces could never give a shit about the life of the colonized. Destroying local agriculture to export your subsidized grain and proletarianize the population to be exploited by your multinationals isnt quite "making sure no one starved". There are still people starving, but because the supermarkets are full it doesnt count.
>because nomadic tribes from the North are competing for resources with sedentary tribes from the south of the Sahel.>nomadic>competing for resources>with sedentary tribes sounds dumb and made up. I dont doubt there have been some conflicts, but acting like the conflict of today have anything to do with the old ones is pure "mmmh they fight each other because theyre savages".
>Now that French has decolonizedyou fucking retard france officially left decades ago, but never stopped neo colonization.
>the old conflicts are re-appearing, with the differences that now we have arbitrary borders drawn over various countries that did not exist before, and putting in a same democratic system people from various ethnic groups, with widely different demographics, so it's just going to be a series of elections and coups, as the winner-take-all approach of democracy does not work when you mix minority and majority groups.racist projections, most of the tribalism in politics is a direct consequences of the corruption fostered by neo colonialism. And the coups we're seeing are explicitly nationalist in characters, and not tribalists.
>What I am criticizing is the implicit racial essentialism in this discussion where everyone basically assumes that Africans do not have any agency, and do not have any history beside whatever their relations with the west are.how the fuck is the local military couping a western puppet denying africans agency ? its sounds like a pure glowie talking point "talking about neo colonialism is denying africans their agency!", what the fuck, its literally the reverse.
>do not have any history beside whatever their relations with the west areyes, the imperialist relation with the west is the single most important part of their recent history, the ones with massive material effects in the last 100 year and still today. Denying that is pure imperialism apologia.
>yes Russia is involved through Wagner and China is involvedpretending owning all the economical structure of a country, controlling the politics, money and media, of a country to be able to exploit it economically is similar "involvement" to doing regular trading and hiring a few security expert is glowie tier dishonesty.
in short fuck off retard
>>583983>one of the most unstable areas*one of the richest areas
Euros know that they need Afrika, but Afrika doesn't need them. France is about to get beaten in a foreign war and all of Afrika is going to be renegotiating every deal with every Euro country. (Germany and Italy see that all the Euros are about to lose because of French arrogance.)
>>583987>Euros know that they need Afrika, but Afrika doesn't need themThis has to be the most retarded thing I've read ever, anywhere.
Europe could lose all contact with Africa and not much would happen, but Africa is entirely dependent on the west for basic things such as staple food, medicine, etc.
>>583994sorry that we can't come up with amazing analysis like 'hurr durr stupid uyghurs'
France literally still controls like 12 other countries' financial policy and holds the money for them, how is that not colonialism?
>>583994what the fuck are you talking about? why does supporting an explicitly anti-imperialist coup against very clear neocolonial exploitation somehow mean that the juntas are perfect puppy dog communists that are incapable of doing any wrong, and how does it concievably mean they have "no agency"?? we are agreeing with decisive actions they took as free agents operating within harsh parameters. i really do not see where any noble savage implication can reasonably be inferred from any of this.
were primarily non-francophones so were waiting for the trickle of news about new developments to reach us, and we are communists so naturally we see the sudden potential for a big crack in imperial hegemony as a source of hope and optimism.
>riots happening in france<"why do you care, this is just spoiled westoids throwing a temper tantrum!">juntas voicing anti-imperialist goals happen in francafrique <"wow, you think this is good? that means you think theyre african they must be doing this for pure, transcendent reasons and theyre going to be perfect communists"I know its not the same people posting this kind of shit but smug "why do you care?" posters are a scourge
>>584006Many people would starve and die, but it wouldn't be much better for the north which would spiral into the worst economic crisis ever seen. Autarky and ten years? Yeah to stabilize the population dying off, not to do well. You can't build a whole industrial base from almost scratch in that time, there's not enough capital accumulated. They would need still mills, machine tool factories, universities churning out engineers, shipyards, an automotive industry, chemical plants producing pesticides, hydropower dams and high tension lines and transformers to power all that etc etc. There's an interdependant relationship between Africa and the rest of the world heavily skewed in de-favor of Africa, in part "thanks" to the aid like you said, and people like Sankara tried to build up the mops in the continent but those kind of initiatives are few and far between.
>>584009even wsj recognize western "foreign aid" mostly foster corruption and dependence, is often used as a leverage, and funneled to purposes that serve the interest of the giver.
Many states also throw a lot of shit in the "foreign aid" budget, like in france we count in the budgets some migrant holding center in france, our military aid, subsides for expanding our medias reach over there, teaching of the french language, subside for french product and services….
france just cut aid to burkina faso btw
if someone want to dig a bit on french foreign aid:
https://survie.org/themes/francafrique/article/l-aide-publique-au-developpement-3626 >>584013It is also worth mentioning, and sorry that i do every time, that aid works as credit, not as cash as the right and the libs both like to pretend it is. And credit to countries like the USA, UK and France, which produce what? Always, but today only..
Weapons, high tech and indiscriminate ones.
>>584013More from the WSJ
>American military commanders were dismayed last month when a clique of top army officers seized power in Niger, the U.S.’s main ally in the fight against Islamist militants in West Africa. What stung perhaps most sharply were televised images of one particular man, Brig. Gen. Moussa Salaou Barmou, among the coup plotters.
>Barmou is a guy the U.S. military has courted for almost 30 years. He is a guy the U.S. sent to Washington, D.C.’s prestigious National Defense University. He is a guy who has invited American officers to his home for dinner. He is a guy in charge of elite forces crucial to stemming the flood of al Qaeda and Islamic State fighters across western Africa. “Brig. Gen. Barmou,” a U.S. defense official said just a few months ago “is the guy.”
>He may still be. In the two weeks since Niger’s coup, Barmou has emerged as the main diplomatic channel between the U.S. and the junta. American officers and diplomats have his number in their cellphones and think he’s their best chance of restoring democracy and preventing a messy regional war that would plunge one of the poorest parts of the world deeper into crisis.
>Barmou sat down in Niamey, Niger’s capital, for two hours on Monday with Victoria Nuland, the acting U.S. deputy secretary of state. The talks have so far proved frustrating. But Nuland, knowing Barmou’s long affinity for the U.S., urged him to broker a deal that would allow Niger and its longtime Western allies to get back to fighting al Qaeda, Islamic State and Boko Haram militants and stop the country from becoming another African outpost for Russia and its paramilitary Wagner Group. “A lot of us who like him are sort of hoping he can help guide this thing to a soft landing,” said retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Mark Hicks, who headed American special-operations forces in Africa from 2017 to 2019 and considers Barmou a close personal friend.[…]
>At times, those professional alliances merged into personal friendships. Barmou once brought a cooked goat to a safe house in Niamey for a dinner with Hicks, then the American special-operations commander, and U.S. Embassy personnel.
>That wasn’t the case with France, Niger’s former colonial power, and in meetings with U.S. counterparts, Barmou freely aired anti-French sentiments. In 2021, he hosted a New Year’s Eve party at his Niamey home, inviting U.S. and British but not French officers, according to a U.S. officer. The officer said Barmou resented France’s practice of conducting its own operations against militant groups without consulting Nigerien commanders. Despite the slow start to talks between the U.S. and the junta, Barmou’s American friends hope he has the political wiggle room and personal inclination to lobby for a solution that keeps Niger in Washington’s orbit. >>584014A brief search on yandex
https://yandex.com/search/?text=%22prosperity+party%22+tigrayGave me these two articles that were far more informative than anything google spat out
https://borkena.com/ethiopia-news/Is one thing I found.
>>584018Sorry decided midpost that the second link was more informative, and didn't proof read.
There should be plenty of interesting shit in the search I linked.
BREAKING NEWSAugust 8,2023
<Niger’s junta rejects a diplomatic visit by regional and UN officials over ‘atmosphere of menace'https://apnews.com/article/niger-coup-victoria-nuland-west-africa-jihadis-4f21ee42f7e87b3747a322709d8d1bbc>NIAMEY, Niger (AP) — Niger’s military junta has refused the latest diplomatic attempt to reinstall the ousted president, rejecting a proposed visit by representatives of the West African regional bloc, the African Union and United Nations on Tuesday, according to a letter seen by The Associated Press.
>The letter cited “evident reasons of security in this atmosphere of menace” against Niger, two weeks after mutinous soldiers overthrew the country’s democratically elected leader. The regional bloc known as ECOWAS had threatened to use military force if the junta didn’t reinstate President Mohamed Bazoum by Sunday, a deadline that was ignored.
>On Monday, acting U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland met with the coup leaders and said they refused to allow her to meet with Bazoum, whom she described as under “virtual house arrest.” She described the mutinous officers as unreceptive to her appeals to start negotiations and restore constitutional rule.
>“These conversations were extremely frank and at times quite difficult because, again, we are pushing for a negotiated solution. It was not easy to get traction there. They are quite firm in their view of how they want to proceed,” Nuland told reporters on a call from Niamey, Niger’s capital. …August 9, 2023https://nitter.kavin.rocks/BenFRubinstein/status/1689083131763081216
>Founding Declaration of the Council of Resistance for the Republic
>On July 26, 2023, in the early hours of the day, our country, Niger, fell victim to a tragedy orchestrated by those who are supposed to protect it. Indeed, ignominy and betrayal paved the way for the unspeakable actions of the Commander of the Presidential Guard, whose primary duty is to ensure the security of the President of the Republic, His Excellency Bazoum Mohamed.
>Through a series of hostage-takings and various maneuvers, including threats and blackmail, he was able to gather a secondary circle of uniformed supporters with whom they attacked the Republic and its institutions. They justify their intrusion into the political scene with fallacious and grotesque pretexts related to governance and security management.
>This unfortunate episode comes at a time when we note that:
>Political and social stability has been established in Niger thanks to the frank and sincere dialogue that the President of the Republic continuously maintains with all the socio-professional layers of Niger.>The economic and financial situation has greatly improved; the prospects are bright, especially due to the exploitation of our resources, such as the imminent export of our crude oil, the implementation of various structural projects, the influx of foreign investments, etc.
>The security situation has significantly improved due to the implementation of a holistic approach, never contested, which includes firmness (strengthening in number, quality, and operational means of the Security and Defense Forces, recruiting within the Security and Defense Forces on an inclusive basis, members from all segments of the Nigerien population, establishing beneficial partnerships with friendly countries and institutions) and openness towards insurgents who At a time when all indicators are positive, and intoxicated by the power his position as the President's bodyguard affords him, Mr. Tchiani decides to betray his oath and the trust placed in him by attacking the Republic and its institutions.
>Observing the junta's categorical refusal to establish constructive dialogue; Noting the hardline stance adopted by certain members of the CNSP; Witnessing the disgraceful practice of mass manipulation targeting our youth, the use of civilians as militias, and the temptation to call upon mercenaries, war criminals known as Wagner; Observing the mutineers' alignment with populist strategies, reminiscent of the military dictatorships in the sub-region; Witnessing the freedom-suppressing and anti-national dynamics the mutineers are unfolding through daily threats, arbitrary arrests, censorship in both public and private media, blackmail, and violence; Convinced of the need to mobilize all sincere democrats to thwart this ominous project of establishing in Africa, and currently in Niger, a governance model far from any democracy and freedom; WE, Nigeriens, democrats, and patriots, decide, as of this day, August 8, 2023, to create the Council of Resistance for the Republic.>The CRR is a political movement that will work to restore order, constitutional legality, and President Bazoum Mohamed to the fullness of his duties. The CRR calls on the military who respect their oath and the people to put an end to the mutiny and to promptly arrest General Tchiani; The CRR warns that it will use all necessary means to eliminate this treacherous practice of challenging the people's choices by corrupt and irresponsible military personnel. The CRR calls on all well-wishers to spare no effort in restoring legality and republican order
>From now on, the CRR offers its unwavering support to ECOWAS and international partners for the planned intervention to ensure the return to constitutional order in Niger and remains fully available for any useful purpose; Finally, the CRR calls on the Nigerien people to be highly vigilant and to envision the future with complete serenity within the Republic and legality. Done on >August 8, 2023 By His Excellency Mr. State Minister Rhissa Ag Boula Council of Resistance for the Republic Interesting article in New Left Review about politics in Niger and describing the pre-coup PNDS regime as a highly ineffective and corrupt one-party state anyways that didn't deal seriously with the opposition (or than sending the police to club them over the head), their inability (along with the West's inability) to deal with the jihadists, and some of the ideological and religious currents bubbling up under the surface like Kemetism:
>The bone of contention between these branches of the state was security policy. Under [former president Mahamadou] Issoufou, Niger opposed the 2011 NATO intervention to dislodge Khadafi, predicting it would destroy Libya and set off a security and migration crisis in the region. But when the prophesy came true, Issoufou decided to seek the help of the West to contain the fallout. There was a rational reason for this. Freshly into power, Issoufou and Bazoum’s party, the PNDS (or Nigerien Party for Democracy and Socialism) had plans for large-scale social spending in health and education. It also intended to replenish the civil service, which had not recruited in years. To carry through this programme, security expenditure had to be minimized, which was achievable only if someone else helped to shoulder the costs.
>On a broader level, relations between the newly elected government and military were rotten from the outset. In July 2011, after just four months in power, Issoufou foiled a coup attempt. One of the alleged plotters, Lt. Ousmane Awal Hambaly – a member of the Presidential Guard – saw his case dismissed and was released in 2012, but was subsequently involved in yet another coup attempt in 2015. At his second trial, he claimed that he had been ‘baited’ by Tchiani, who convinced him to plan the coup along with other military officers. Tchiani had by this time acquired a reputation for cooking up coup plots that he would then defuse, in order to make himself indispensable to his presidential patrons. Whatever the truth of the matter, such coup attempts served to make Issoufou paranoid about the military. According to hard-to-verify anecdotes – the non-existence of investigative journalism means that Niger’s public opinion relies mostly on gossip and rumours – such paranoia got in the way of beefing up the army for the fight against the Jihadists.
>The reign of the PNDS began with good intentions, but was soon beset by serious flaws that made a viable security policy more difficult to achieve down the line. Two, in particular, turned the public against the ruling party. The first was endemic corruption, which had given democracy a bad name in Niger, and which the PNDS had promised to root out … De facto single-party rule was established. The cost was the deep unpopularity of the regime, the weakening of democratic institutions and the law – which were forced to serve partisan goals – and a declining sense of national unity, as people in the west of the country, and more generally in the south, felt they were second-class citizens compared to those in the Tahoua region (fief of the PNDS) and the north. Trust in elections was eroded. If the system of political balance was corrupting, the de facto single-party system was no less so, as well as being oppressive and non-inclusive. Nigeriens called it ‘the Gouri System’, from the Hausa word for ‘wish’, taken from one of President Issoufou’s slogans.
>Thus, by the end of the 2010s, Niger had two pressing problems: unrelenting Jihadist violence, and a diseased democracy unable to deliver true legitimacy to the elected. In this context, the presence of the West looked like an added problem. It was more limited than in Mali, where the French counterterrorism Barkhane force and the UN’s peacekeeping MINUSMA mission operated. Before falling out with Mali’s junta and moving the remnants of Barkhane to Niger in late 2022, the French were active mostly in the north of the country, where they protected uranium mining sites. For their part, the Americans have two bases for the surveillance of the vast wastes of the central Sahara, while European forces offered training and technical assistance. This foreign presence was seen as intrusive, and the PNDS could not sell it to the public because of its own divisive style of rule. In the era of compromise politics, it could have made its case to opposition parties and genuinely independent civil society groupings, and a trusted, independent press could have been engaged. The public could have been swayed through debate. But the PNDS presented any criticism as a threat issuing from a radicalized opposition (PNDS activists called their Lumana counterparts ‘the delinquents’), rather than a legitimate grievance. In any case, the government seemed able simply to ignore popular discontent, since their police forces could deal with it easily enough. The only place where it erupted was Niamey, a city divided half-and-half between locals and migrants which, unlike the capitals of Burkina Faso and Mali, Ouagadougou and Bamako, lacks a unified identity base.
>More grievously, the PNDS lost its bet that the West would help eradicate the Jihadist presence. Had this bet been won, the party would be in power today. But not only did the West fail to help on that front; it became an obstacle to collective security once the putsches in Mali and Burkina Faso brought to power juntas that chose not to rely on it. Prior to these developments, the three countries, together with Chad and Mauritania, were building momentum for the G5 Sahel: a collective security apparatus that would encompass the whole Sahel. Junta-led Mali and Burkina Faso crashed out of it in 2022 and made clear they would not work with Niger on collective security matters as long as Niger partnered with the French. From then on, Niger faced a dilemma, especially since the elite in the Sahel, and in Francophone West Africa more broadly, traditionally tends to scapegoat the French for their own failures, relying on the familiar yet elusive concept of Françafrique. In addition, a more recent ideological brew that combines decolonial radicalism, fringe ideologies like Kemetism (a religious belief that Black Africa is heir to Pharaonic Egypt), and the prickly sovereigntism of the weak, has seeped into the public via social media networks, sometimes from sources in France’s Black community. A Russophilia that was peculiar to Mali, going back to the reign of independence leader Modibo Keita, also percolated in this mixture. And France’s own mistakes, which stemmed from its highly inegalitarian relations with its African partners, poured fuel on the fire.[…]
>In theory, the coup could fix Niger’s two main problems. It could ‘reboot’ its democracy, which had been frozen by the Gouri System, and it could lead to the development of a better security policy. If the PNDS’s trajectory is any indication, the two outcomes are related. But does the junta care about democracy? And what about the West and Nigeria, both of which responded harshly to the putsch, the first suspending all aid, the second threatening war?
>The process of restarting democracy by coup is no extraordinary occurrence in Niger. In fact, it has happened three times in the past, in 1996 (arguably), 1999 and 2010. But now the domestic and international climate is different. Niamey’s putschists are inspired by the examples of Bamako and Ouagadougou, whose juntas have weathered sanctions and stood up to the ‘international community’ and ECOWAS, while barely committing to a return to democratic governance. As in these other countries, the Nigerien junta is currently enjoying the adulation of the public, glad to see the fall of the Gouri System. They may interpret this as a form of legitimization that exempts them from having to return to the democratic process. Meanwhile, the ideological climate pushing toward a rupture with France and the West will also help to set the stage for authoritarianism – even though the West could be criticised for turning a blind eye to the PNDS’s own authoritarian tendencies and abetting them by default. The events in Burkina Faso and Mali indicate that, after a year or so, genuine support for juntas dwindles to the committed ideologues and those who have staked their future on their regime. Others tend to accept them because the material changes to their lives are minimal. If there is still a dearth of political participation, there is also a traditional Sahelian acceptance that this is what military rule looks like. The result is a form of political regression – although democracy as practised under Mali’s Ibrahim Boubakar Keita or Niger’s Gouri System hardly amounted to progress either.
>In all three countries, then, democratic restoration can come only from outside pressure – that of ECOWAS in particular. But in Niger, this pressure got off to a bad start. Because Nigeria was caught off-guard by the putsch, exasperated by the feeling of one coup too many, and under a leader – Bola Tinubu – who is determined to give ECOWAS a truly Nigerian stamp (even though Nigerians know and understand very little about their French-speaking neighbours), its response was severe. It included threats of military intervention along with sanctions such as cutting Niger’s electricity supply, over 70% of which comes from Nigeria. The Niamey putschists, naïve not to expect this backlash, have responded with outrage – recalling ambassadors, breaking off agreements and refusing to receive emissaries.
>If the putschists manage to entrench their rule and maintain their intransigence, declining to reach any compromise with the Nigerians and Westerners, which would inevitably involve a break with the methods of the Malian and Burkinabe juntas, the likely outcome will be the withdrawal of European security and development aid (if not humanitarian funding) and the continuation of ECOWAS sanctions, which are likely to be more damaging for Niger than they were for Mali. The Nigerien population will suffer, but they will take it as one more calamity among many, especially given their proverbial fear of ‘the soldier’. There will then be two unknowns: the attitude of the Americans, who will want to hold on to their desert bases, and that of the Russians, should the junta decide to invite them to Niger in the form of Wagner. Which, given its recent rhetoric, is not impossible.https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/rule-by-junta>>584025I was talking about Sankara's coup, not the current coup, but even so:
You cannot size power over the masses and subsequently try to gain their support; that is a recipe for failure.
The duty of the vanguard is to guide the masses to seizing state power by fighting along side them and leading them to victory—like what Chairman Mao did against the Japanese Imperialists and the KMT—not by gaining their approval after state power is seized.
Nevertheless, critical support to the fighters against Western imperialism in this coup.
>>584024A socialdemocrat got paranoid abou the army cutting his head so instead of building forces with his ranks (although is a long run strategy) relied on the west.
Allegedly single party in the civilian branch but not in the army. Damn, I though that liberals at least knew some Mao.
Also for something called "New left review" it reads that it was taken from the WP
>>583596A justified anti-colonial development from a moral perspective . However, pragmatically it will backfire and harm Niger in the long run. That's because this simply opens a new theater for the NATO-Russo-Chinese proxy conflict. Russia and Wagner are not their saviors . The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. The current situation means that if France's uranium supply is cut off it's up for grabs. Wagner Group are known resource pillagers, having been paid to seize oil fields in Syria, for example. So in addition to the more obvious reason of frustrating and complicating NATO's response to the coup they may also be there to swipe the newly available uranium out from under France's grasp.
The US will inevitably get involved. It has a military base in Niger, ostensibly to conduct counterterrorism operations, but de facto to project power over the region. US intelligence in concert with their French counterparts in the DGSE will doubtlessly foment and support armed opposition to the newly installed junta.
>>584040There aren't many "interests" in that region since it's mostly arid and facing a population boom.
I think the short version of it is that the West doesn't trust African countries to fight "Al Qaeda" (or ISIS or whatever).
In reality, it's an error of diagnosis since most of those groups aren't really terrorists that are interested in actually hurting people or countries (like actual Arab militant groups). Most of them are just using Islam as a cover or simply as a way to get weapons and funding from rich Arab countries.
So in reality there is no real threat there. The best move for the West would be not to get involved at all, even taking into account realpolitik.
>>584046>>584047So is this happening dare I say,
happening?
>>584051'you' as personal pronoun, or a generic pronoun?
People in my country seem to say nai-jer.
>>584060NGL, Approaching this with a degree of cautious optimism.
On one hand, getting rid of French Colonialism is all well and good, but it doesn't mean much if there isn't a socialist government to take over the reigns in the aftermath.
Then again, there were African Socialist Nations who did deals with American companies in order to help develop their own nations- same might be said in doing business with that of the Russians.
Overall, they've got us going in the first half, ngl.
>>584058This pic goes hard.
May I screenshot it?
>>584080lol im more likely to be called a both-sider than anything but there are genuinely people in /ukraine/ and this thread who take a state's nominal foreign policy at face value, assume that investment & development is a straightforward process divorced from geopolitical considerations, and act like talking about the enormous role of US imperialism & its subsidiaries is hyperbolic at best if not outright schizophrenic. you see this when you point out something like, hey seems like the National Endowment for Democracy becomes active in funding NGOs right before theres a regime change installing a more west-friendly government, and they say "let me guess the CIA pulls all the strings all over the world! heil putin right?" or somewhere on that spectrum of smugly dismissing the demonstrable reality of imperialism
>>584076oldBO was a schizo who didnt permit the critical aspect of critical support even when it was obviously measured and in good faith, the mods now are overall more strict & involved than he & his team ever were, but the mods now are far more consistent. oldBO might have considered cucktin-posting for example to be de facto undermining the russian cause
>>584087>>584085they are not the same people. there are shared ethnic groups (primarily hausa and fula), but those arent homogenous themselves, and the divide between anglophone and francophone west african countries is particulary strong even within ethnic groups. the akan being split between ghana and ivory coast is a good example. ethnic identity is important but circumstantial, in the case of nigeria/niger and ghana/ivory coast, peoples sympathies towards their nominal ethnic cousins tend to be less pronounced for a variety of reasons, especially language and orientation towards different metropoles. but its true that nigerian hausa have more than average cross border sympathies due to a lesser degree of colonial integration/formerly being centers of stronger historical sahelian empires that are now relatively underdeveloped compared to their coastal forest counterparts to the south. fulani in particular have an unusually strong sense of pan-national ethnic identification all throughout west africa, to the extent that they are often considered a dangerous fifth pillar for being fairly insular, maintaining their nomadic and ritual traditions, and having "split loyalty" between their host states and their ethnocultural group.
but youre not entirely wrong in a broader sense that africans are unsurprisingly very familiar with pan-african ideas, and opinions vary from cynically considering it idealism detached from national realities to taking it for granted as obviously desirable, usually falling somewhere inbetween. but the average vaguely pan-african impulse popular among certain groups, combined with widespread dissatisfaction with foreign intervention while the national situation is still a massive fucking mess, will absolutely cause a large degree of discontent in the case of war. but there are a lot of fault lines in play and theres no way to know which would come to the fore in this hypothetical.
tl;dr yes and no, its complicated
>>584090just off the top of my head in no particular order:
1. power projection
2. implicit threat of escalation if assets in country are targeted
3. bases of intelligence
4. staging grounds for covert ops (most actual military work done by the US these days is under the radar JSOC stuff done in collaboration with local proxies/aligned interests
5. depending on the specific circumstances, training local officers & police
>>584094I had a medium post responding to that ECOfrog doompost but then again, why a paper tiger like that deserves some lines of text?
https://archive.is/7PkUP>Chiefs of staff from West African Ecowas bloc countries were set to attend a meeting on Saturday in Ghana’s capital Accra, regional military sources had said on Friday.>But they later said that it had been suspended indefinitely for “technical reasons”.>The last-minute cancellation came as thousands of coup supporters rallied near a French military base in Niger on Friday.Not even good as goons lmao
>>584075>now it seems like just recognizing the obvious fact of US imperial & euro neocolonial hegemony in africa is somehow a "Z" or "tankie" or whatever position to hold because now we have actual radlibs that filled in where there used to be leftcoms and orthodox marxists etc1. In relation the YPG accepting USaid, we've seen that they've done little to actually become the US's puppets- with the AANES being more in line with Assad's policy and continuing to fight a NATO backed member. China has accepted trade and arms deals with Saudi Arabia- a country that is committing acts of ethnic cleansing on the Yemeni people- yet I doubt we'd be so quick to accuse them of imperialism either.
Problem is both China and the AANES engage in realpolitik in order to survive. Their policies athough far from ideal are at least understandable, even if they are worthy of criticism.
2. Recognising US and Euro imperialism isn't "tankie" or "Z" posting- it's the excuses that so-called MLs make for Russian Imperialism, War Crimes and chugging Russian propaganda by the ton. It's the fact that you get called a NATOid or Glowie because other MLs (particularly bloodgasm here) criticise the Russian government.
Criticise the Russian government for persecuting LGBTQ rights?
>NATOid! Criticise the Russian government for their treatment of the Sami people or the fact that they straight up admit to perpetuating Russian irredentism?
>GlowiePutin himself expressed anti-communist beliefs and shit-talked Lenin. And although criticism of Lenin is justified- why should we tolerate his bullshit?
>B-but he opposes NATOAs does the YPG, yet you're quick to label them stooges for US imperialism, even though the AANES makes similar trade and military agreements with Russia. That's not even getting into the fact that Xi has openly praised Henry Kissinger.
The reason why Z posters are criticized is not just due to their apologia for the Russian federation, but their outright hypocrisy and refusal to give other tendencies that aren't theres the benefit of the doubt- and the only way they respond to such criticism is just screeching homophobia, Russian propaganda and putting their head in the sand and strawmanning their opponents.
They're fucking insufferable and Im tired of this board pretending that they're not. And this is coming from flag-related.
tl;dr you don't have to deep throat Russian propaganda to be anti-nato/US.
>>584097i agree with you on literally every single point, which is probably why like i said im more likely to be considered a both-sider than anything. the (you) youre referring to is not me. doesnt change the fact that there are frequent posts on here that amount to "lol ok sure, food aid [as part of a deal premised on the IMF restructing of the economy] is imperialism? take your meds", and they hide behind the fact that we have a surge in essentially online war-watcher football hooligans in the /ukraine/ thread saying depraved shit and then moving goalposts to a halfway principled multipolarism when someone says that revelling in gore is weird. idk if the anfem flag is sincere or not but my entire point is there used to be more anons on /leftypol/ that were for lack of a better phrasing willing to put equal emphasis on both the critical and support aspects of critical support, e.g. assad is a goofy opportunist and his government is the bastard child of french installed alawite sectarianism, but they are also under assault by a bloodthirsty imperialist seige that wants to turn them into a libyan style slave market so its easy arithmetic as far as how to read the news. and of course when we talk about critical support were mostly talking about the way we read the news and how we talk to people about it
pretty sure we are on the same page
>>584097>That's not even getting into the fact that Xi has openly praised Henry Kissinger.Don't get it, why not butter up the guy who sent all the burger factories to Chyna?
Being utterly hostile to disgusting war criminals would mean cutting off all contact to the burgerian regime after all.
>>584099>Don't get it, why not butter up the guy who sent all the burger factories to Chyna?This is the same guy who
>was involved with the bombing of Cambodia during the Vietnam War>Had a hand in the 1973 Chilean military coup (which China also recognised as legitimate), >Had a hand in orchestrating U.S. support for Pakistan during the Bangladesh Liberation War despite a genocide being perpetrated by Pakistan.If you want to talk about China playing realpolitik- then you'd have to recognize that the AANES is doing the same thing and quit parroting "uhm ackshually they're tools for US imperialism".
Furthermore, last year In May 2022, Kissinger advocated for a diplomatic settlement that would restore the status quo ante bellum, effectively ceding Crimea and parts of Donbas to Russian control at the world Economic Forum.
Are we all of a sudden going to praise Kissinger for being "le ebin wholesome 100 based multipolarista?"
Hell even Chomsky mentioned at length similar views to Z-posters in relation to NATO aggression- and yet he's still called a "lib." Is this to suggest that Chomsky, like any other leftist theorist, is exempt from criticism? Of course not, but he lives rent free in people's heads because he didn't like the soviet union and doesn't dickride it like others on this board- it boils down to the pettiest of arguments and trying to fit in and not be "a western leftist".
Do you see my point here, anon? The Z-posters of /ukraine/ are more of a collection of crude campists than actual principled anti-imperialists. If they were serious about anti-imperialism they'd be more willing to keep an eye and advocate for the independence of the Seperatist Republics as opposed to cheering on Russia. They care more for the aesthetics of anti-imperialism via anti-americanism then actually understanding the interlinking forces of global capitalism at play and how the international bourgoisie profits from said imperialism.
>Being utterly hostile to disgusting war criminals would mean cutting off all contact to the burgerian regime after all.Again, I can understand realpolitik, but my point stems from calling out the Z-posters hypocrisy.
>>584103>don't criticise the UK >Don't criticise Australia >Don't criticise Indonesia <conveniently forget about Ruthless criticism of all that existsSurely you can't be this naieve into thinking that just because the US collapses capitalism will collapse with it?
If NATO does fall, which im sure we can all agree is a good thing, that doesn't garuntee that other capitalist nations won't enforce their own hegemony. The Russian state for instance seems to be guided by a Duginite Russian irredentism- this is far from anything remotely progressive.
And what's worse is when you point out the Russian governments reactionary social politics you're then crticised for being a NATO simp.
Like yeah fuck me, why should I, a trans-woman, not express support for NATO who guises their imperialism under the LGBTQ flag and simultaneously Russia who guises their reactionary politics as "anti-imperialism".
>b-but the wheels of history and muh material conditionsAre no guarantee for the rise of socialism which will finally be able to end imperialism. Again, see pic related here.
>>584061Ireland had its own decolonial movement- yet Ireland is now a haven for CEOs and although being progressive IN COMPARISON with other European nation, it still has a national bourgoise which is still willing to materially support the UK which to this day still occupies Ireland.
Greece also has a similar flaw, because in spite of it gaining independence from the Ottomans and the UK, it too was used as a stooge for US imperialism.
Russia is an far right wing oligarchic nation-state that practices irredentism- while it certainly has a hand in ending French colonialism and mitigating western hegemony, it's not bringing about the overall rise of socialism. This will only continue capitalist exploitation, imperialism and reactionary politics, only it won't be the US doing it. If we're actually serious about being principled anti-imperialists, we won't fall for the campist bullshit and make excuses for reactionary regimes.
If you want to talk about realpolitik- then hey, all good. That's understandable, but don't fool yourselves into thinking Russia is an overall progressive force because its fighting NATO. Such progress will only be determined AFTER the fact and how Russia progresses from then- but owing to them being a far right wing oligarchy, you'll forgive me if I don't enthusiastically chant "harden your heart Putin".
I'd argue the only force that is at least deserving of an element of critical support in ending US hegemony would be China, but that's mostly because they're guided by a communist party.
>>584105>Says the leftist completely uninvolved and powerless in the developments ,as they triangulate the perfect fit for their… *moral* support.<pot calling the kettle blackWe may as well then shut down the /ukraine/ thread considering neither of us has any power to influence the war.
If you bothered to actually read my point- the point is calling out the hypocrisy of people justifying realpolitik for their tendency and ONLY their tendency.
But /leftypol/ not bothering to read and just strawmanning their opponents arguments is nothing new.
>>584106I don't know what strawmen you're erecting and knocking down, and I don't care.
>independence of the Seperatist Republics as opposed to cheering on RussiaThis is a shit play.
Refrain from saying "principled" in my direction again, "principled anti-imperialism" is an oxymoron. I fucking tire of dumb assholes eager to advertise how much ideologically pure they are than me. This "competition" has no prizes.
>>584106Why would people want to signal that they are not western leftists, is it shameful or embarrassing to hold those sorts of positions?
If so might there be a reason for this?
>>584107>Refrain from saying "principled" in my direction again, "principled anti-imperialism" is an oxymoron.Campist Cope.
>I fucking tire of dumb assholes eager to advertise how much ideologically pure they are than me. This "competition" has no prizes.That's a fancy of saying "I have no principles."
But by all means continue to ignore me while having more meltdowns over bloodgasm. >>584108In what way? "Western Leftists" is often used as more of a pejorative as opposed to more of a geographical/political lens.
Again, kicking France out of Africa is good, but the question will be wether they become an actual socialist country (tendency means little to me) or will they become more akin to Ireland and still uphold global capitalism? This will be the deciding factor.
Do we take the path of short term victories or long-term successes? The answer should be clear.
>>584110It's been an ongoing background joke here that tankies have no principles.
This is an honour.
The young leader of Burkina Faso who has built a lot of respect in West Africa is quoting Sankara and Che, an obviously promising development.
>>584111>posts vid of Bane, a mercenary who was going to bomb gotham while giving them a false hope of being betterLook we can all agree if it wasn't for this fact, Bane would be based, but surely you can do better.
>It's been an ongoing background joke here that tankies have no principles.This is an honour.
<Im aware i have no principles, so i'll continue to be act like a joke. Then you'll forgive me if i don't take you seriously. And here I though you weren't going to reply? Unless this is a different tank-anon?
>The young leader of Burkina Faso who has built a lot of respect in West Africa is quoting Sankara and Che, an obviously promising development.and again, we can hope. But just because someone talks the talk doesn't necessarily mean they'll walk the walk.
Gonzalo, Pol Pot and the MagaComs of Infrared quote socialist leaders and theorists yet they're hardly people we'd call principled socialists based on their stances and policies.
Anyone can talk the talk, but it remains a question if Burkina Faso under Ibrahim Traoré will walk the walk.
>>584114>The current imperialist hegemon is America, therefore the priority is putting an end to their state. When Russia or any other country becomes the imperial hegemon, then we will focus on them. Until then, death to America, nothing else matters.Yes Im sure making short term allegiences with reactionary powers won't have any long-term consequences.
I'll conveniently forget about Italy and Greece post WWII. :^)
>>584119>can do nothing but strawman my argument and resort to name-calling. >>584118Pol Pot was a CIA agent and committed genocide against the Vietnamese.
Both of you, pic related.
>>584120Pol Pot was not a CIA agent when the Angkar took power and conducted the most successful leftcom revolution in history.
But later when the Vietnamese installed a puppet goverment in Phnom Penh and he transformed into a cambodian muhayiddin to spite his old ideological nemesis.
>>584124>but as you've argued so well this is not a disqualification, and sending intellectuals, porkies and other parasites to the countryside to work is good.Haven't argued that whatsoever. But please, keep putting words in my mouth and continue being the unprincipled clown you are.
>>5841231. Never argued that America respects my rights, because owing to their constant transphobic policies I wouldn't support them not to mention- not only that, but as i said, Im fully aware they use human rights talking points to justify imperialism much like Russia uses homophobia to push anti-impeiralism.
2. Im not an American.
3. Russia is a far-right wing oligarchy. Why should I go and throw my hat in with them, especially since they- like other governers in America, would see me killed and have me demonized on the basis of my identity and sexuality?
>>584127>I don't like America I just conveniently support their narratives about why all their rivals/enemies are badI get that trans people have a hard time but at the end of the day you guys make up roughly 3% of the global population, you really can't expect everything to hinge on your minority group when the proletariat has much bigger fish to fry
Yes I am a class essentialist, idpol be damned
>>584128Why would one need to do that when you're owning yourself in every post.
Try being on topic?
>>584130>u-ur owning urselfYou're the one who admitted themselves as someone who shouldn't be taken seriously and can't argue to save their life and can't stomach the fact that other people don't stand for Russia's oligarchic and far right wing bullshit.
>>584129>Documented Russian legislation is "pushing le narrative"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/24/russia-passes-law-banning-lgbt-propaganda-adultshttps://www.article19.org/data/files/medialibrary/37129/13-06-27-russia-LA.pdfNice solidarity you're showing there "comrade."
>you really can't expect everything to hinge on your minority group when the proletariat has much bigger fish to fryAh right, "my revolution comes last". I should just be complacent when other trans people get brutalised, incarcerated and treated like second class citizens while being falsely labelled as pedos.
>idpol be damnedEven by this boards standards, transhphobia IS IDPOL. This ain't 2017 anymore, lad. Get with the times.
>>584133Vetoed by the Senate of Nigeria, Burkina Faso and Mali will take it as an act of war.
Coincidentally returning to the founding father comrade Sankara's vision Burkina Faso has been arming the masses to fight boko haram.
To sum, unlikely.
>>584106>This will only continue capitalist exploitation, imperialism and reactionary politics, only it won't be the US doing it. Who will be doing it? Are you saying Russia is imperialist?
>don't fool yourselves into thinking Russia is an overall progressive force because its fighting NATOthis sounds like a core issue.
what does progressive mean to you?
>Such progress will only be determined AFTER the fact and how Russia progresses from thenThe same can be said about if Russia potentially becomes imperialist in the future.
>>584110>the question will be wether they become an actual socialist country (tendency means little to me) or will they become more akin to Ireland and still uphold global capitalism? This will be the deciding factor. They could also become independent and capitalist, which would be progressive from a marxist perspective, enabling investment in their own development of productive forces instead of extraction for enriching an imperialist
>>584132can all the retarded purity idpol wankers just fuck off and go wank in another thread ? go denounce the evil antigay autocrats somewhere else, we're talking about the sahel liberation here
>Ah right, "my revolution comes last". I should just be complacent when other trans people get brutalised, incarcerated and treated like second class citizens while being falsely labelled as pedos. go cry about it in your lgbt community, this is not a lgbt support group.
>>584110>This will be the deciding factorfor what, your support ? who cares about it ?
>Do we take the path of short term victories or long-term successes? you're not taking any path, you're just shitting on a people struggle to free themselves from neocolonialism because "they're still capitalist in the end"
>>584106>The Russian state for instance seems to be guided by a Duginite Russian irredentismlol what the fuck are you talking about
>don't fool yourselves into thinking Russia is an overall progressive force because its fighting NATOyou're fooling yourself into thinking this is somehow not progressive, frankly i dont see how you can miss that.
>The Z-posters of /ukraine/ are more of a collection of crude campists than actual principled anti-imperialists. there isnt a single discussion place I've encountered that was more "principled anti-imperialists" than leftypol, and its certainly not thanks to the idiots screeching about campism who mostly carry water to nato. "NATO is bad, but all their enemies are equally bad so you have to join your ruling classes in denouncing them!"
you might be principled, but you're no anti imperialist
>They care more for the aesthetics of anti-imperialism via anti-americanism straight glowie talking point, "you're just anti american, nato are the true anti imperialists". Yes, in the current world, anti americanism is anti imperialism.
>advocate for the independence of the Seperatist Republics you mean a widely held opinion for as long as it still had any sense and hope of happening ?
also, lmao at denying chomsky is a lib. Unsurprising given you're apparently even less socialist.
>And what's worse is when you point out the Russian governments reactionary social politics you're then crticised for being a NATO simp. because how the fuck is it relevant to the discussion ? thats like saying "REMINDER IRAN IS A THEOCRACY, THEY BAD", no shit sherlock, go write a column about it in the washington post, we're trying to understand the material forces shaping the world at the dawn of a massive reshuffling of geopolitics, economic and power relations. the social policies of the involved countries are straight up irrelevant.
>If NATO does fall, which im sure we can all agree is a good thing, that doesn't garuntee that other capitalist nations won't enforce their own hegemony. yes it does actually. The hegemony was a product of unique conditions and likely wont ever happen again.
>only force that is at least deserving of an element of critical support in ending US hegemony would be China, lol. fucking ultras are really worthless to any real struggle. russia, iran deserve critical support, china deserve straight up support.
does that mean you cant criticize their policies ? no. But that means when you're discussing geopolitics, you're not suddenly denouncing them for their views on gay sex
>>584135See
>>583942Great Man Theory has a self-fulfilling prophecy aspect, and it now depends entirely on how ambitious the Nigerian president is.
came across this funny account of the coup
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-u-s-fumbled-niger-s-coup-and-gave-russia-an-opening/ar-AA1eNIaD>Bazoum fled into the safe room across the hall from his office and phoned aides to say he was confident that U.S.-trained elements of his army would rally to his rescue. >In a twist, some of the best U.S.-trained special forces among Niger’s regular army units were on counterterrorism missions in the distant desert regions of a country twice the size of Texas, with few roads.>The lightly armed units in the capital weren’t in a position to assault the palace and the chain of command broke down. Rank-and-file soldiers said they debated over WhatsApp groups what to do. They received no formal instructions from their commanders, who appeared to be waiting to see which faction had the momentum. Bazoum, who still had full control of his communications in the safe room, phoned international allies and ambassadors in Niger’s embassies in the West. He stressed over phone and video calls that the coup had no basis—it was a personnel dispute and could easily be reversed. His U.S. envoy rushed to let the State Department know what was happening.>Though the U.S. had spent hundreds of millions of dollars transforming Niger into its top military outpost in the Sahara, it didn’t have an ambassador in the country.>Washington also has no ambassador at the African Union or in neighboring Nigeria—or anybody in a special envoy post that it had created to deal with the region’s deterioration. >Bazoum contacted allies in France, which had about 1,500 troops in the country. A decision would have to come from President Emmanuel Macron, who was traveling in the South Pacific, 12 time zones ahead. France’s government declined to comment.>Secretary of State Antony Blinken was in the South Pacific as welllmao so the west narrative is that the coup was purely about personal conflicts, and the only reason it wasnt stopped was because westoids were so arrogant that by chance nobody had the power to order a swift intervention to rescue their puppet ?
and apparently the US is dropping the french like the liability they are in the region by saying "if you let us keep our base we wont intervene"
>>584142Please by all means.
The information asymmetry will work to my advantage.
>>584144Also I don't care about (you)'s.
In fact, I find idiots replying to me an annoying waste of my time.
Please do
by all means filter me if you find me irritating :) :) :)
>>584137You should respond to these criticism with proper theory not with comments that might be misconstrued as bigotry.
>>584132There can be no social justice without economic justice. No true queer emancipation is possible as long as western tendrils keep these countries poor and subservient. The liberation you seem to want would only apply to the a small percentage, only the most privileged class, and maybe not even then. With sovereignty comes development, with development comes education and economic/livelihood security, and with that comes social progress. It is a dialectical process in the sense that it will be developed in conjunction with itself iteratively and non-linearly. The liberation of colonized Africa will mean some setbacks in terms of social justice, but the general trend will be upwards. There is no justice in war, but war might mean liberation, for example.
>>584147Nah m8 just clearing the air.
If idiots want to talk to someone they can talk to someone who cares like anfem poster.
>>584146Your sign is useless and ignores important context. Tap it all you want.
The better way to deal with bait in a community which doesn't remove it is not to ignore it, nor to take it, but to recognize and starve it. And how this is done depends on context of how a platform's mechanics work, but a common example is the classic "2/10"post. Recognize it, signal what it is to others, dont provide a lead to pull on. Most fishposters fuck up on that third step, misunderstanding what 'bait' is even when they successfully spot it.
>>584149Bait and idiots posting is largely indistinguishable.
'Scuse me coming through; Dropping this crosslink off >>1569474
>>584152As a leader, Im not so sure- but apparently he wasn't that great. HOWEVER, smashing apartheid was far from a negative.
Problem is, is that because of his APPARENT less than stellar leadership, you have those "rhodesians never die" douchebags from /k/ shitting up the board, and trying to make the argument that "uhm ackshually RHODESIA was better under apartheid" etc. Of course, anyone with half a braincell would know to take /k/ope with a grain of salt, but still.
>>584151>>584152>>584153>>584154>>584159>>584161>Mugabeone of the few world leaders retarded enough to go for an IMF structural adjustment program thinking it would help his people in any way whatsoever
he's great if you think Zelensky and Poroshenko and Yeltsin and Tsipras and Macri and any other neolib are also based leaders
>>584174CHAD WW1 Socdems:
>We need to destroy Russia, the most reactionary state in the modern age that even Marx himself relentlessly complained about, in order to ensure the success of socialism worldwideCRINGE Whining Bolsheviks:
<NOOOO THIS IS INTER IMPERIALIST WAR YOU CAN'T FIGHT AGAINST RUSSIA AHHHHHHHH DEMAND PEACE NOWWWW THIS IS INEXCUSABLE STOP THE FIGHTINGGGGG1. Tsarist regime breaks under the pressure of WW1
2. SocDems are proven right but the Soviets ended up in charge in Russia because they avoided all the fighting and were living in exile like cowards
3. Doesn't matter anyways since new revolutionary Russia can now export the revolution worldwide
4. a lot of stuff happens here
5. Communists today bitch about WW1 and engage in revisionist history to try to shame socdems even though they were proven completely 100% correct in retrospect about their assumptions regarding WW1 in regards to how it would destroy the Tsarist regime and would also allow for socialism to flourish and that the war was thus progressive
debate me
>>584178Based freikorps bro.
t. sucdem
>>584179Everyone always complains about the Freikorps but no one ever mentions that not much later after Rosa was floating in a canal the German government was already actively cooperating with the Soviet military and helping modernize the Red Army and to speed up their industrialization process. Germany was the only country willing to break the embargo to bring the Soviet army up to speed on the latest military and technical developments.
Imagine if Hitler had gone up against peasant farmers using anarkiddie tactics like Makhno's horse infantry rather than the mechanized might of the Red Army.
>Capitaine Ibrahim Traoré : « La vraie indépendance, il faut maintenant la conquérir »
>200,790 views Aug 7, 2023 #capitaineibrahimtraoré #faso7 #burkinafaso
>En marge de la cérémonie de sortie de la 22e promotion des élèves-officiers d’active de l’académie militaire Georges-Namoano le 5 août 2023, le Président de la Transition, le Capitaine Ibrahim Traoré a rencontré les forces vives de la région du Centre-Sud.
>🔴 « Aujourd'hui, c'est une date historique, la proclamation de l'indépendance. Mais dans nos discours, on ne cesse de le dire que la vraie indépendance, il faut maintenant la conquérir et je pense que ce combat a commencé », a déclaré le Capitaine Ibrahim Traoré, Président de la Transition.
>➡️ Recevez les infos par SMS en composant sur votre numéro Orange Burkina : *3368#
>#burkinafaso #faso7 #capitaineibrahimtraoré
>>584189The yootoob links are mostly current news from regional media organisations
retard>>584188Good catch tankyoo, good coverage especially for a western NGO, but this clip from an indian media covers the sitation better.
https://aaprp-intl.org/revolution-in-sahel/Excellent coverage on Coups in West Africa or the Sahel Region by the All African Peoples Revolutionary Party; essentially a communist pan-african organization, click and read for yourself.
These coups (Niger, Mali, Burkina Faso) of West Africa are a positive movement in the direction of organization and revolution even if not exactly those things.
We have a world to win, it seems some here forget that, yes the situation is nuanced and deserves grey analysis, but weigh the positives and negatives here, what pushes and furthers the movement of communism, the direction as of current seems progressive in relation to recent events in West Africa.
Although I do not encourage war, and such bloodshed would developmentally regress the Sahel, I am logically not seeing anything other than conflict as the contradictions are too high: Nations A have all the resources nessecary for societal function, Nations B need said resources for societal function; what happens when Nations B cannot acquire these resources as Nations A refuse to let these resource be acquired… Add in context and it seems Nations A had imperialist policies of historical colonialism and now contemporarily continuing Neo-Colonialism for cheap or close to free resource extraction forced upon them, which allows Nations B society, its infrastructure, welfare state, cheap consumer goods too thrive and Nation B is also able to freely use Nations A Human Labour and extract value from them, and skim off its companies etc…
The contradictions are many, mainly that of exploitation on the global scale, historic or current, one has resources yet can't utilize them; you get the gist, and are negative contradictions, where the interests of the newly formed couped states are different to that of it aggressors, this seems to arise only in conflict.
However there is the positive too, such war could extend the consciousness of the masses of nations either side, a pointless war of resource extraction to serve imperialists (on the side of the ECOWAS bloc) or a war of liberation and a new start for a progressive federation of African States (newly couped west African states).
Thoughts?
>>584192 (me)
On a side note: Maybe the statement on consciousness raising is idealistic, how or why after or during war could/can a masses class consciousness turn to a positive direction, does war do this in on of itself due to extremities, or can it also produce reactionary tendencies too.
>>584192Tankyoo bookmarked
>>584193In regards to war some hopefully good news breaking from Al Jazeera
Englishh\ttps://youtu.be/KqzyOUSR-M0
The interim president of Niger proposes a three-year transition to civilian rule.
>>584188Your channel is delivering
https://youtu.be/A1hZNSMzyVY<Niger's junta warns against military intervention, vows return to civilian rule within 3 years #AfNews>“I am convinced that … we will work together to find a way out of the crisis, in the interests of all,” Tchiani said, commenting after his first meeting with a regional delegation seeking to resolve the West African nation’s crisis.Published about an hour ago, so on par or perhaps even slightly ahead of us on the news curve.
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