Alba, A4U, I dunnae kain who's who!
>>8253>>8252If you google “Alex salmond excercise” it comes up with an article about how he plays golf, which would give him somewhat improved lats, a good twisting hip motion for punching, and the physical fitness of walking.
If you google “George Galloway excercise” it comes up with nothing.
Galloway does indeed have big cat energy so that’s one point in his favour. A balanced game so far.
Alex is also eh… handsy though… kek
>>8254Judging by this picture salmond has the size advantage.
>>8256Looks like he’s having a seizure/ is autistic or something
>>8280Yup, its a standard social democratic platform.
However, what is the workers party's actual vehicle for change?
At this point I literally don't care what a leftist party is saying about policies. They all say roughly the same shit, from the communist party to the trots to the workers party to the left of the labour party.
What I want to know is how do you plan to do it, when all these others have not
>>8300Ye, gotta listen to Norma from Bristol
She even got a twitter now
accelerationAcceleration >>8307it's more that when he was politically active he delivered free tuition, free prescriptions, an independence white paper that proposed a very slightly better country, and an independence referendum all in the space of a few years.
sturgeon's achievements over the last few years by contrast: creating the most politically active TERFs in the country by dithering on the GRA, starting and then ditching the named person scheme, a growth commission report that makes George Osborne look like a social democrat, and some opinion polls that say people would vote "Yes" by tiny margins because the UK has just spent the last 4 years collapsing in on itself.
salmond could be the worst person in the world and he'd still be worth supporting against a bad government if he had a shot of making their lives harder.
>>8308I wouldn’t totally blame Sturgeon, the Scots voted to remain in the UK with the ‘no’ campaign being
>London: you can’t leave, you won’t be able to survive being independent>Yes Scots: We can’t leave, we will not be able to survive being independent The only reason why Scotland is considering reversing the cuckoldry is because Brexit isn’t what Scotland wants. Salmond is just getting back on the horse now because of that, but knew the writing was on the wall that losing the referendum was the end of the independence movement for this generation at least.
>>8311>>8314i would say the yes movement actually peaked after the end of the referendum, retaining considerable momentum until the EU referendum came along and then increasingly drifting from the SNP after that.
instead of fostering a healthy relationship between activists and the SNP which could be used to help make a long-term case for independence, sturgeon basically treated them as nothing but a vote bank while stripping away more and more internal democracy from the SNP itself (turning conferences from an area where policy can be discussed to blairite PR exercises), making a mockery of the tens of thousands who joined the party post-independence. realistic prospects for independence have increasingly been sidelined by labour style "one more heave!" campaigning. the post-2016 SNP has promised referendums it knew weren't going to happen more often than Labour has promised to abolish the house of lords!
meanwhile the SNP government itself has failed to excite: you can't say "oh, independence was rejected so we can't do anything interesting with devolution". salmond couldn't get a referendum from 2007-11 and he still lead a perfectly respectable government. even if independence has been kicked into the long grass there's no excuse for the party itself to be in government but without purpose. the stated purpose of being judged on education has failed, education has gotten worse. if social liberalism is her real focus, there's no impressive record there either: why on earth has it taken a full parliament to
not pass the GRA reforms?
then there's the utterly neoliberal growth commission report, the increasingly militaristic defence policy, the increasingly petty internal factional games, the refusal to look at the case for independence as it now stands (the 2014 white paper is dead), etc, etc. all of which a better leader could have avoided, all of which a bad leader should be forced out over.
>>8320So that's 15% of the UK's economy are industrial
exports, that doesn't account for internal consumption.
>West London student found dead in Epping Forest after disappearing walking home
This sounds exactly like the Sarah Everman case. Here's my conspiracy theory: there is a gang of met police going around murdering people from London and dumping their bodies in the home counties. Why? First of all in both cases the police were slow to respond to calls from the families to the missing persons. Then the series of events are similar: someone reported missing, police slow to react, then big media campaign, then they're found dead in a rural locale outside of the city they were taken from. They also both disappeared in similar circumstances: walking to meet someone, disappeared right off the street. Now sure this can just be coincidence, most people aren't abducted and murdered from their house, but here's one other thing that gets my Epstein sense tingling. The pig-murderer of Everman was, while in detention, having to receive at-least twice treatment for head injuries. Now either he tried to kill himself by banging his head against a wall, or he was beaten up by police. Now he could be beaten up in the classic cop way of "you fucker you made us look bad", or he could have been the target of silencing beatings. I dunno maybe i am off my nut but I feel like there's something here.
>>8342the lad went to epping forest late at night for some unknown reason. It was quite a distance away, and they have no known connection to it. apparently he was on meds for some condition and hadn't taken any for the next morning so it looked like he planned to come back.
also he was found at the bottom of a pond, so maybe he lost the plot or went out to do some acid and accidentally drowned? no foul play suspected yet.
>>8325Being furry is the least of its problems
(Except that being furry makes it notable, if it wasn't furry everyone would forget it for the low rate mixed messages copaganda it is and then it could just be ignored.)
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8324I don't like Zootopia much and I am one of the furries.
Nothing about it was particularly re-watchable, it was generic racism bad film that not-so-subtly reified the foundations of racism.
>>8324Oh you wanna go huh?
I won't deny Zootopia was furry bait but you can't just say 'well what if it didn't have furries in it' because it did. It's also based and anti-carnist pilled.
>your friend chuck has put me on to youLOST
>>8361Yeah but it's like asking you to imagine a nicotine free cigarette. They exist, but their marketshare is much more in tune with their objective qualifies stripped of the cheap tricks of chemical addiction. If you're going to make a furry bait film then make it a good film, don't make a boring film and then clock off at 5 safe in the knowledge that a meandering, unexciting plot will be carried by the core audience wanting to fuck the animals.
Also i swear they eat fish. If you want a vision of the zooture imagine a billion furries smugposting on /r/pescetarian forever.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8305She presided over the rightward shift of a party formerly more left wing than labour (still is tbh).
Although people calling her clintonite are brain melted. She hasn’t done anything anywhere near as bad as Libya, Syria, Honduras etc
>>8366it's easy to not oversee any wars when you have no foreign policy power. she's heaped praise on clinton in the past, said she owes her gratitude, etc. if it's fair comment to call starmer blairite despite the fact he never voted for the iraq adventure, the same is true of calling sturgeon clintonite.
plus ian blackford (who surely takes his orders from sturgeon) very clearly wants regime change in syria, to the point of accusing boris johnson of being insufficiently keen. from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it is impossible to say which is which…
>>8367Starmer put through a bull allowing the glow to rape people how did the SNP vote on that? SNP under sturgeon also voted against the crime and policing bill
> a woman world leader said niceities about another woman world leader Well I never they literally never do this
>>8368starmer's vote for and sturgeon's vote against had exactly the same effect: sweet fucking nothing. a majority government with no significant rebellion and two chancers posturing from a comfortable position of impotence. (i would check if the SNP made the effort to whip everyone to turn up - which labour clearly didn't do, even on their own amendments - but theyworkforyou is a surprisingly shit website.)
perhaps ms. sturgeon should bring out the niceties for margaret thatcher next? after all she was a #girlboss too. and why be imbalanced about it, why not invite mr. blackford to deliver a glowing eulogy for mr. blair? (to say nothing of the question of "in what way is voting against the crime and policing bill
not compatible with clintonite liberalism?", are we naively forgetting when the Conservatives defeated Blair's push for 90 day detention?)
no amount of hiding behind parliamentary posturing or the worthlessness of the labour party can escape the SNP's militaristic defense policy, a parliamentary party gagging to have meetings with MI5 agents, and the westminster leader of the party whinging that the government isn't doing enough to topple assad.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8373a mixture of the number of stories of her being privately awkward and weird and a vested interest in making her more sympathetic for the purposes of attacking Starmer while 2017 nostalgiaposting.
here's a story from her chief of staff, who has just lost his seat thanks to the 2017 election and been asked to be her chief of staff:
>You can imagine, knowing Theresa, that was not an easy conversation to have initially. But I was very upfront about it. I said, 'I can’t do the job unless I understand you. I know you hate having these kinds of conversations, so I’ve come up with a game to make it a bit easier. I’m going to tell you three things about Theresa May, three things you’ve done that I love and made me really proud as a Conservative MP, and three things you’ve said that I disagree with and don’t like. We’ll use that as a way of getting the conversation going.'it's just great, the prime minister of the country being so opaque that even her own chief of staff is reduced to desperately flipping through middle management seminars to try to figure out a way to get her to talk. or look to the countdown to the brexit extension where the point was well made: literally nobody, except perhaps her husband, knew which way she might jump because literally nobody knows her.
plus it adds a nice solidaristic dimension to the letting Gary McKinnon go thing.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8388Scottish devolution: 1997
Good Friday agreement : 1998
>>8402I knew Blair stopped advising him but not Mandelson took his place, kek.
Hartlepool is the perfect kicking Labour needs to sort its shit out but if they win it then all hope is lost until after the next GE.
https://thecommunists.org/2021/04/03/news/salmond-sturgeon-whats-going-on-scottish-nationalist-camp-snp-alba/Taking bets now as to whether the CPGB-ML read all the Craig Murray blogs about Salmond just to try and figure out what sort of rugs were in the buildings he was accused of doing crimes in.
the article itself has quite a weird structure. it's like 80% "salmond was fitted up, very suspicious, hmm, craig murray says…" before concluding "Salmond’s real crime: the incitement of reactionary separatism amongst the British working class… Frankly, it is his obsession with dividing the British working class against itself via his poisonous nationalist ideology that he needs to be ostracised."also is it weird for the CPGB-ML to quote the from the WSWS in neutral terms? that seems weird given they're trots but i must confess i have not been keeping up to date with either.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8427My other though is that with Galloway in parliment, what kinda wacky charchters can he invite.
My first thoughts are Joti Brar and Caleb Maupin
brocialismBrocialism >>8425Children of a dead empire, living vampire like on financial capital gleaned from robbery of the third world, the little productive jobs make up a labour aristocracy and everyone else just wants to drink themselves to death.
>>8426Time will tell if we see light Galloway where he is simultaneously reaching across the aisle with salmond to oppose imperialism or if it’s dark Galloway who will refuse to do this because muh union. Of late I fear it’s the latter.
>>8428>Only Nazis hate the globe trotting murderous anglosLol
Imperialist anglo cope
Holy fuck, this is the ONLY imageboard where I need to select an image FIFTEEN FUCKING TIMES FOR IT TO UPLOAD, are the jannies retarded???tankieTankie >>8431Did history genuinely end?
I hate the West so much bros, nothing changes here
tankieTankie >>8449We generally include the 1945 election as "since WWII", but yeah I don't think they did.
I mean Militant had MPs elected (as labour members ofc) but I imagine you dont consider them marxist).
>>8451Reminder his regularly repeated plan for Scottish independence was to make it a tax haven. Cutting taxes and slashes services.
So yes , they where always libs
brocialismBrocialism >>8458So you would commit entryism, but also tell your faction not to vote for Labour, making your faction worse than useless to Labour voters. But then somehow expect everyone to back you.
Oh yeah… it's Brocialist hours
>>8456Cope and Seeth, his policy after 2008 was cutting taxes, while he has cutting services.
Bonus of Salmond getting the party to abbandon its anti-nato stance under his leadership in 2012
brocialismBrocialism >>8461>his policy after 2008 was cutting taxes, while he has cutting services.in a parliament with a fixed budget facing budget cuts as a result of budget cuts in England, you unsalvagable moron.
also the local income tax plan was literally killed by a UK labour government being pissy about losing the election.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/westminster-threat-withhold-ps400m-2480654 >>8466he didn't control any taxes except the unworkable scottish rate of income tax, which nobody ever used and which the UK govt never even set up the infrastructure to collect until the post-2014 devolution review, and council tax.
"in an independent scotland we'd cut corporation tax because as a small country the lower % would be made up for by a higher number of companies based here" may be a dubious policy, but it's not a move towards austerity, nor does it have any relevance to the budget of the devolved parliament. (except "we could avoid these cuts if we had full control over our own budget. indeed, we could literally just borrow money.")
note that welsh labour made massive budget cuts in the same period.
>>8467So he did control, some taxes. Council tax (Which he tried to cut while making MASSIVE CUTS).
>""in an independent scotland we'd cut corporation tax because as a small country the lower % would be made up for by a higher number of companies based here""Proposing becoming a tax haven and laugher curve bs.
>note that welsh labour made massive budget cuts in the same period. Yeah the labour party sucks and are liberals , whats your piont
brocialismBrocialism >>8469They do it in Northern Ireland lamo.
So much for the SNP taking back control at Holyrood.
>>8470are you only just learning that the UK devolves shit at random?
up next you'll learn that the UK government doesn't like giving Scotland powers because it tends to find a more popular way of using them than westminster.
(for the avoidance of doubt: the tory proposals were implemented, the ~ on VAT includes no power to vary VAT, but means that the scottish budget will fluctuate with VAT receipts.)
>>8474if anything the experience surely demonstrated the difficulties of taking a shortcut to a position of power without the institutional power to back it up.
corbyn's leadership of labour was as though the SDLP suddenly found their leader as prime minister of an alternate timeline UK where premiers are directly elected. absolutely, they held the position, but fundamentally they found themselves dependent on a parliamentary structure which was almost entirely hostile, which would have to be bypassed in order to get anything done and which would be constantly doing its best to undermine them. the best that could be achieved in such circumstances is to rig up the necessary requirements for a longer-form takeover of institutions while holding the leadership. that didn't happen.
(in a snappy line: corbyn's big failure was to go for election wins rather than deselections, although always running against the risk that deselections could trigger a split that would destroy the labour party entirely.)
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism though I'm in NA and we have different version of the same "service", not sure if yall get paid better or something
>>8480 (me)
>>8482depends what the payout on overload is
if deliveroo keeps the money but gives you a coupon or something if they're too late then trying to overload them mightj ust feed them more money
although if you were devilish, finding a way to place fake orders without giving deliveroo anything even if they arrive on time would be neat…
With the beginning of the Second World War in 1939, the CPGB initially continued to support the struggle on two fronts (against Chamberlain at home and Nazi fascism abroad). Following the Molotov–Ribbentrop nonaggression pact on August 23 between the Soviet Union and Germany, the Comintern immediately changed its position. The British party immediately fell in line, campaigning for peace, and describing the war as the product of imperialism on both sides, and in which the working class had no side to take.[19] This was opposed within the CPGB by Harry Pollitt and J. R. Campbell, the editor of the Daily Worker, and both were relieved of their duties in October 1939.[20] Pollitt was replaced by Palme Dutt. From 1939 until 1941 the CPGB was very active in supporting strikes and in denouncing the government for its pursuit of the war.
However, when in 1941 the Soviet Union was invaded by Germany, the CPGB reversed its stance immediately and came out in support of the war on the grounds that it had now become a war between fascism and the Soviet Union. Pollitt was restored to his old position as Party Secretary. In fact, the Communists' support for the war was so vociferous that they launched a campaign for a Second Front in order to support the USSR and speed the defeat of the Axis. In industry, they now opposed strike action and supported the Joint Production Committees,[21] which aimed to increase productivity, and supported the National Government that was led by Winston Churchill (Conservative) and Clement Attlee (Labour).democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8487We haven't discussed shit sage.
>>8489Quakers during WWII joined shit like the Red Cross or the Bevin Boys. SNP were like "erhm yes I am not going to fight mr hitler while he is genociding half of europe because scotland should be independent". This also goes for Gandhi and the IRA-cunts that got funding from the Abwehr for the record.
>>8493And also forget the Easter rising give me the dates of the events known collectively as “red clydside” where Lord Mountbatten, noted pedophile royal, who was later involved in an abortive fascist coup of the British state, was the head of a force of troops which was sent to Scotland to put down a socialist uprising, quite possibly the closest the U.K. has ever had to a Marxist inspired socialist revolution. Wonder why Scottish leftists wouldn’t want to join in.
Fuck up
I'm dumb burger, wtf is going in in Ireland?
https://mobile.twitter.com/EmmaVardyTV/status/1379918204437422087Is history restarting again?
>>8498you can't commit war crimes against nazis + you surely agree the soviets would never request a war crime be conducted, and they requested bombings in dresden.
>>8501the buying british military hardware proposal is the funniest thing
there have been too many british military procurement disasters to count.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8524Glad you found a way to be above it all.
>>8525(((Finance expert)))
>>8536Thursday night to get smashed
Friday to be hungover
Saturday to put some time to theory
Sunday to thank the Lord
christian_communismChristian Communism >>8538If you get a salary you are working class by the Marxist definition.
Do you live rural like in a village or rural like out in an isolated home with nothing around it but fields and forests?
Honestly if it’s the former and it’s just a village of retired pensioners you need to move it a city or larger town. If it’s not, you need to find out about class issues in your area, probably by locating local groups or interested peoples. This would be your first step.
If it’s the latter, prob gonna be moving to a city.
You may be a PMC but do you rent? Do a lot of people in your area rent? Is there a lot of homeless where you live?
We need details lad. As many details about yourself, your local area etc as you can give without doxxing yourself. Then we can assess.
Being a tarquin will make it more difficult to enter salt of the earth working class spaces and be listened to but actually, working class people are generally not automatically full of hate for people slightly richer than them, and if you have something useful to say and don’t act like a stuck up Tarquinius nonce the worst you’ll get is a bit of banter.
>>8538You're the Surrey Anon aren't you?
Tbh mood, I am much the same in background (my grandparents aren't porkies, they were teachers but still). It's hard honestly, because most of the time there's no rooted place to start: most people are employed by the petit-bourgeois or in big supermarkets that are antiseptic to organising. I'd suggest maybe contacting your local USDAW branch, chances are you are 45 minutes driver from one of those Amazon Hellhouses and giving them your time and effort is more than worth it.
>>8540Pls no
>>8541Is this actually possible without getting IRLb&?
>>8543Essentially is already. I'm an accountant, so I manage money not people.
>>8546Small village, but there are small towns (25k to 50k people) and large towns (250k) within about an hour's drive, say. Can't really move, my wife's parents live nearby and they need a fair bit of looking after. I don't rent, I am sure there are a lot of renters near here but I think a lot are upper management types who commute to the city, lot of commuter towns and retirement villages here.
I guess my main impediment is I am starting out so cut off from all of this. I have lived an easy 'middle class' life all my childhood, in work I have been separated from the people actually working and their issues. So now I'm actually starting to think about these things I don't know where to start, I don't know what the issues are or how to help. I am also a dead fish and lack the charisma or energy to start anything myself.
>>8548Not Surrey guy, no. In non-lockdown times, my work is quite near an amazon hellhouse. The place I work has an environment not dissimilar to amazon in fact, it's basically a small factory run by a family, with idiot family and friends in all key positions. Anyone who even thinks of unionising is let go, or just not given hours.
>>8550>Well for starters that's a crime, but there are ways around it. I'd get in contact with USDAW to help with the Amazon Hellhouse, and IWGB for your place (they are more radical and more ballsey).Yeah, but those laws are pretty toothless and as you say very easy to get around, if you have people on zero hours and just say there's no work for you sorry mate. The threat of losing jobs is enough to get most people to not do anything.
tbh I don't know if I'd feel right doing anything myself for my place, since I'm slightly apart from the workforce and the market for my labour is slightly different and I'd be starting shit that I'd be risking less in. I'd feel like a bit of a middle class white saviour complex thing going on. That might not be a good take, that's just my immediate though.
>>8527Who is this prick? He looks like the kind of arrogant london office cunt i'd rob in the street.
>>8538>Grandad a porky>Parents PMC>PMC myself>Live in rural home countiesNo anon, you will fit right at home with the comrades by the sounds of it. Join the labour party, it is for people like you.
anarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism >>8554any union designed for zero-hours workers will have a lot of clout with votes
are they the new proles?
>>8561put that in my biography but the real reason is i want to see Finland
>>8564Michael Heseltine's looking well.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8549What you need to do is get on googling and start searching for socialist groups in these nearby places, obviously depends on what kinda politics you are into, but if you're not sure, just spread fire some emails and see what pops up, if you are, you can make this more targeted obviously. Any group worth shit is gonna be happy to have new people who are keen to get involved. Probably your best bet if you don't want to be starting new stuff.
Perhaps given you are a carer you could consider looking into campaigns around providing care, which you do have experience of.
>>8568Geezers need excitement
If there lives don't provide them they incite violence
Common sense, simple common sense
anarchismAnarchism watching teenage voters interviewed on BBC Scotland is such a weird experience
hot takes: artist: "young people voting is good, let's do independence :)" guy in bedroom: "the attainment gap should be lower!" girl in library: "we should have a more diverse parliament! :)"
meanwhile here i am - here we are - with all our political illnesses, our revenge fantasies, our preferred way of tearing everything to bits and throwing the wreckage around because by god, this country has been on the wrong track for longer than we've been alive, and it's not heading anywhere near it. if we believe in voting at all, it will be on grounds steeped in 60 degrees of strategy or 46 degrees of contrarianism. no "i like the environment so i'm voting green", no "i think people should keep more of their money so i'm voting tory", no "i'm sort of an alright guy really but unfortunately my aversion to conflict has tricked me into voting lib dem", and certainly no "i like the idea of society so i'm voting labour", only "i'm voting conservative to unseat my Labour MP as punishment for the Iraq war, thereby maximizing internal pressure on the Labour party to change its leader", "i'm voting Labour because i want to show my ballot paper on /leftybritpol/ for (you)s which is the single most valuable thing my vote can deliver", "i'm voting liberal democrat because i genuinely believe this will kickstart a series of events culminating in Ed Davey being proclaimed head of the next caliphate."
the kids have it right. we are wrong, all wrong. for all of their sakes i hope to god none of them ever get into politics. oh by all means let them get a job in politics, let them become MSPs and let me with my overactive gallbladder spit all kinds of bile at them, but please god keep them away from history, keep them away from theory. nothing good ever comes of knowing either. i hope they're happy on the 6th of may, because unless there's a biblical flood to wash away the sins of this earth i know i'll be moaning away as usual.
https://twitter.com/SaveOurSouth1The utter state of this though
(Unless putting out Blairite dogwhistles is part of the act of being the
southern party, in which case fair play.)
>>8598couresy of /brit/ the fasted thread on 4chan at the moment
1. "British women can't cook," he told the Scottish Womens' Institute in 1961. .
2. "It looks like the kind of thing my daughter would bring back from her school art lessons," he muttered while being shown Ethiopian art in 1965.
3. "I would like to go to Russia very much, although the bastards murdered half my family," at a very heated period of history in 1967.
4. "What do you gargle with? Pebbles?" he told singer Tom Jones at the 1969 Royal Variety Performance. Later he added: "It's difficult to see how it’s possible to become immensely valuable by singing what are the most hideous songs."
5. "We don’t come here for our health. We can think of other ways of enjoying ourselves," he told journalists in Canada in 1976.
6. "You are a woman, aren't you?" he said to a Kenyan woman, who was presenting him with a small gift in 1984.
7. "If you stay here much longer you will all be slitty-eyed," the Prince told British exchange students who lived in Xian in 1986. When asked on his opinion of Beijing, he replied: "Ghastly."
8. "If it has four legs and it is not a chair, if it has two wings and flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it." Again with the Chinese insults, when he addressed a World Wildlife Fund meeting in 1986.
9. "I don't think a prostitute is more moral than a wife, but they are doing the same thing," when dismissing claims those who slaughter for meat have greater moral authority than those who partake in blood sports in 1988.
10. "Oh no, I might catch some ghastly disease," when asked if he wanted to pet a koala in Australia back in 1992.
11. "You can't have been here that long — you haven't got a pot belly," he told a British tourist during a visit to Budapest in 1993.
12. "Aren't most of you descended from pirates?," he enquired to an islander while in the Cayman Islands in 1994.
>>8597Why tf do you anglos spell “color” with a u?
>>8599> 1. "British women can't cook,"But that’s actually true
>>8636The legal fiction elements of it are nice. "The Crown" does this, "The Crown" does that, thereby avoiding making any of the annoying decisions that come with being a normal country. Plus when you elect a clown as prime minister he doesn't get to be head of state, only head of government.
(In Canada/Aus/NZ it works better than here, since "The Crown" is represented by some rando civil servant from the country rather than the actual crown. It's basically a republic randomly yoked to another countries monarchy.)
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8652I mean to be fair, pretty much all parties have suspended their election campaigns, and besides, it would've been a PR nightmare if they still decided to campaign
>>8654Kek
nazbolNazbol >>8671It's a spectacle and people love spectacle.
>>8672Charles is 70 something, no?
stalinStalin >>8582HAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
WHAT FUCKING MONGS NIP ARE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
>>8684it's not like registering as a sex offender, you don't just fill out one form and then pop it in the letterbox on the way to the shops. they registered months ago and it still wasn't "In time"
keep in mind that even Salmond's Alba party buggered up their electoral commission forms (their logo won't appear on the ballot paper, nor will their slogans.) and
he was first minister of Scotland.
the electoral commission is a byzantine thing.
>>8677perhaps the only saving grace might be that "sympathies to those of a british identity on our island for whom his death will be felt as a great loss" could potentially imply that irish people are having a great time celebrating this german reptile's overdue descent into hell
but sadly no, the shinners are cucks
>>8693 (Hastings direct)
on the one hand i want to defend him and the NIP
on the other hand "Proudfoot" is a very Redwall name so it's not out of the bounds of probability that he is actually literally a roden.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8699wonder what the idea here is. they're behind in the polls, they really ought to be campaigning as much as they can
unless they want there to be additional pressure on other parties to not campaign in the hopes that it'll hurt them more than it hurts Alba. (for example because those campaigns are disproportionately reliant on actual advertising and have enough members to do doorknocking in preparation for a get-out-the-vote operation, while Alba will probably live and die by word of mouth… and with most telly channels on 24/7 mournovision, listening to some guy explain how Nicola Sturgeon isn't a nationalist at all starts to sound interesting by comparison.)
>>8712Cheers, bongs. Here's to the death of your consort.
t. yank
>>8738God has picked us to be Banter Island. Prepare brother, for the next century shall be non-stop confusion as to pay for our imperial bloodshed.
You shall be gaslit to love Phillip because God has deemed it; banterous
christian_communismChristian Communism >>8740I think it's the diversity of accents means you get more interesting intonation and syncopation. I mean the reality is that most African Americans have the same or similar dialect, due to it being a result of ethnic segregation, british black people on the other hand either partially keep the patois of their origins, or adopt and fuse with local accidents: thus leading to more verity.
Take the difference between rappers like Stormzy & Kano from London and a Northern Black rapper like for Bugzy Malone.
>>8741V. good points anon, had no considered this, thanks.
Have a big narste on me.
“Vote SPD, Br'er Voter, vote Zentrum, vote DVNP, and KPD,” said Br'er Bourg. “Only please, Br'er Voter, please don’t throw me to the briar Fash!”
“It’s not going to be much fun voting SPD,” said Br'er Voter, “you’re not scared of that. But you are scared of the briar Fash.”
And with that, Br'er Voter yanked Br'er Bourg off the Tar Liberals, and he flung him -KERPLUNK!- right into the briar Fash.
Well, there was a flutter where Br'er Bourg landed, then “Ooo! Oow! Ouch!” he screeched and he squalled. Then after a while, there was only a weak whisper from Br'er Bourg. Br'er Voter listened.
“I got him! Br'er Bourg is dead!” said Br'er Voter.
But then he heard a scuffling away at the other end of the briar Fash. And low and behold, who does Br'er Voter see scrambling out but Br'er Bourg himself, playing a briar bush whistle stolen from his own workers.
“Born and bred in the briar Fash, that’s me,” laughed Br'er Bourg. “I told you not to throw me there. In all the world, that’s the place I love best!”
With a lippity clip, he hopped away.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8702Where'd you find this? Pretty interesting.
I wonder what caused the dip in 2014, and I'd be interested in seeing their current membership numbers since apparently the last couple years has been good for term in terms of growth
>>8758>>8762they hardly do anything, they're more worthy of derision than hatred, more a symbol of bizarre backwardness than pure evil.
if given the choice to banish either the monarchy or the City of London to the Abyssal Zone it would be the City every time.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8767I'll go even more cynical, they put Dodds in the cabinet because she's so obviously shit.
As she's was seen as being a concession to the left, her failure can be blamed on them. And thus will justify bringing in Starmer's originally desired shadow chancellor , the horrendously right-wing Rachel Reeves
brocialismBrocialism >>8768BASED
>>8769don't remind me she exists i start spitting blood when i remember that stupid "We are not the party of people on benefits. We don’t want to be seen, and we're not, the party to represent those who are out of work, Labour are a party of working people, formed for and by working people."
stupid fucking moron what are the people on benefits except workers who've been failed by economic mismanagement stupid fucking idiot how did politicians detach themselves from reality this badly fuck AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[spoiler]yeah okay kids and the disabled and the old get benefits too, but the archetypal benefits scrounger is on his JSA.[/spoiler]
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8786It's still junk. But that's not the point.
In a year time's you will not able to buy food or have a job without submitting to the regime of forced vaccination and digital surveillance (known as the passport).
>>8787Israel is a testing ground for NATO initiatives. And it's also probably being done to create the same reverse-psychology psyop that happeneed in Britain, where Johnson pretended to be against lockdowns to create a demand for it, even though the contracts had already been signed for the fearmongering adverts weeks before his announcement of the first lockdown.
lenin_capLenin Cap >>8789>50 pence worth of laminated paper from the NHS saying "i got the jab! :)"It's going to be a digital app verified by fingerprint or facial scan.
Remember; you all supported this.
lenin_capLenin Cap >>8796>i support the oppressive lockdown measuresmeant to say i oppose. i oppose living in a society where they are necessary.
but the oppression, that, i am all for.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8804Classic 77th brigade gambit.
>you have no freedom already, so just surrender and accept total slaveryThe point is not to revert back to the 2019 status quo, but to abolish all restrictions on proletarian freedom.
lenin_capLenin Cap >>8810that's like saying your plan is to cure world hunger and transform everyone into sexually attractive wolf men. that's not a plan, it's just barely an idea.
(and for the record i want to be a badger)
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8813There's probably better would-be leaders than me.
>>8814Obviously most Britons are currently brainwashed, defeated and enslaved. And they have no political leadership. You can either accept that, and walk straight into the worldwide Auschwitz planned for us under the Great Reset, or try to do something against it.
lenin_capLenin Cap <The UVF has ordered the removal of Catholic families from a housing estate in Carrickfergus in what has been termed a "form of 21st century ethnic cleansing".<The terror gang was behind attacks on three homes in the Woodburn estate in which they believed Catholics have been staying. Sources say the attacks were based purely on rumours about the occupants or people linked to them.<Windows at properties on Cherry Walk and Glenfield Walk were smashed late last Wednesday night. The home of a pensioner on Pinewood Avenue, who only moved into the bungalow last month, was also targeted. Some of the occupants are understood to have since fled the area.<The PSNI's Sergeant Cowan said: "Just after 9pm we received a report that the living room window of a property in the Glenfield Walk area had been smashed at 8.20pm.<"At 9.40pm we received two further reports that windows had been smashed at houses in the Cherry Walk and Pinewood Avenue areas. In both cases a man wearing a balaclava was seen running from both addresses."<Security sources told Sunday Life that the UVF was behind the attacks having ordered the removal of all Catholics from loyalist estates in Carrickfergus. Sources say they were ordered purely on the basis of rumours about the occupants or people linked to them.<"It's a form of 21st century ethnic cleansing," said the insider. "The UVF has drawn up a list of people living in Woodburn who they suspect are Catholics, or are living with Catholics."<The attacks are taking place despite the Executive Office spending millions of pounds of public cash in Carrickfergus on trying to convince loyalist gun gangs to abandon criminality through its Tackling Paramilitary Activity programme. A further £10million was committed to the fund last week.<The UVF is heavily involved in the project which pledges to "provide support and legitimate alternatives to all ex-prisoners/former combatants to reintegrate into society".<But the smashing up of homes by the UVF in which it believed Catholics had been staying makes a mockery of its transformation commitment.<Alliance MLA Stewart Dickson condemned the UVF violence, calling it "raw, naked sectarianism".<He said: "I know the vast majority of people in Carrickfergus will be horrified at these brutal attacks on innocent families.<"There is no place for this behaviour - it is dangerous and wrong. Clearly, the attempts to wean these sectarian gangs away from their activities by handing out government financial inducements is now a failed policy.<"The only reward for this behaviour must be a stiff jail sentence.<"I welcome the work of the Paramilitary Crime Taskforce in the area and look forward to their continued success in rooting out these thugs.<"Meanwhile, my sympathy goes to those families affected. I know there will be many decent people working on the ground in these areas from churches and other agencies trying to provide assurance and working to help families, and I pledge my support to them."<Loyalists rioted on the North Road in Carrickfergus for two nights last week, throwing dozens of petrol bombs at police lines. The violence was in response to what they claimed is frustration over the Irish Sea customs border and a lack of prosecutions connected to the funeral of IRA leader Bobby Storey.<The attacks on the PSNI were encouraged by both the South East Antrim UDA and UVF who warned teens involved not to riot in loyalist estates, and to instead take the trouble onto the North Road which is on the edge of the Castlemara and Sunnylands areas.https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/uvf-orders-removal-of-catholic-families-from-carrickfergus-housing-estate-in-21st-century-form-of-ethnic-cleansing-40297946.html >>8822Fun fact: it's the proletariat who rely on selling their labour to live like me who oppose lockdown the most.
Fun fact: the billionaires have gotten richer from lockdown.
lenin_capLenin Cap Lockdowns have been imposed at the behest of the bourgeoisie, Gates, the WEF. Communists did not impose them, because communists have no power in Britain.
Moreover, there is no virus. It is a rebranded flu wave that has been utilised to implement vaccine passes (digital ID) using blockchain to ensure total control over the proletariat. This was planned for years.
https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/health/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdfThe nazi state has been waging psychological warfare against us for a year. Clearly many on here are either bourgeois agents or have crumbeed. But many of us have not.
lenin_capLenin Cap>>8838Cringe take. The reason the DPRK could be so effective is because none of its citizens live abroad or regularly travel in and out of the country. Not to mention the fact the have very few external supply chains
You fucking moron
brocialismBrocialism >>8839Then mabye we should implement Anglp Juche then
:)
nazbolNazbol >>8841Man how did Bozo manage this one? So I take it the Majority got vaccinated?
I just want to go out again with my mates and do something
>>8842nah Pub gardens open from tomorrow , no vaccine required.
>>8844Yeah vaccination is around 50% and basically everyone who is in any danger already has it. And I belive he managed it by not being part of the European health scheme. Which requires you to get central Eu approval for all vaccines. (Slower than just getting it done in UK) and I belive the EU negotiate for one central contract rather than national ones, so they are way less flexible in ordering vaccines. Also we litteraly funded and invented our own vaccine so we kinda got first dibs.
Sorry lad wish you could be here
brocialismBrocialism >>8848>Probably worse (In terms of being futher from revolution) than anywhere else on earthThis is a strong statement. Why you guys and not the Burgers or us Krauts?
>But the Pubs are openGood for you
>>8849>This is a strong statement. Why you guys and not the Burgers or us Krauts?Burgers have a much more divided and unstable society. As well as much larger lumpinised populations. Futher they had massive historic 3 month long riots about racial justice last year. Massive potential.
In terms of Krauts, im not as famaliar. But I would say for one you have PR, which means elections are alot more volatile. Giving the potential for the rise of more radical elements.But yeah , you guys give us a run for our money.
brocialismBrocialism >>8788This is not at all a satisfactory answer. what evidence do you have to suggest they are only pretending to be anti lockdown? You realise the majority of the population was pro lockdown long before anything kicked off big styley. You say Israel is a testing ground, but why would they vaccinate their population if the vaccines were dodgy? Doesn't make any sense.
>>8792compulsory spying has been going on a long, long time.
>>8821who ready for troubles 2, fortnight era boogaloo
>>8859its the most proportional form of representation
>>8858the most radical party it would advantage is the greens tbh.
the problem is that even with a fair electoral system you still need competent socialists, and leftists love to fuck themselves over. even if they do enter parliament they will inevitably split because one gang wants to do nothing but LARP (let's put down a bill to abolish capitalism, tee-hee!) and the other one wants to do nothing but policy wonkery. (ah but you see it's a
socialist plan for means testing…), or indeed just because of stupid personality politics.
this tendency is found even in "actually social democratic" parties, let alone ones actually committed to the abolition of capitalism.
ultimately the main advantage is that socialists will find it easier form a grouping across a wider area. (i.e. the SSP could campaign all across Glasgow in 1999, rather than trying to get people to campaign outside their own constituencies)
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8870fully expect people will hate me for this but tbh I think Blair not replacing the old royal yacht (and Major making it an election issue) was incredibly wankerish posturing.
(though building a yacht as a memorial to a dead prince would also be very naff.)
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8873about 40-50 years after commissioning (probably less, everything new is always planned obsolescence crap) you'll be able to go on it in Edinburgh for about £30
(it won't go anywhere though. well, not unless something breaks.)
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8879tbh i blame the SNP for all this
How many fucking years does it take to reform the GRA? I'm sure it didn't take an entire sitting of parliament to introduce it in 2004.
Hate hate HATE seeing socially liberal people
mostly middle class wankers of the kind who trashed Scottish Labour but still rally around the SNP for their lukewarm commitment to GRA reform (alienating TERFs) when even the Tories had GRA reform in their 2016 manifesto. Yet The SNP is supposed to get credit for bringing it forward in the most incompetent way possible, cautiously dragging it out for 5 fucking years and giving opposition time to mobilize.
Fucking clown country.
I remain minded to vote Alba due to the fact everyone else hates them, and I hate everyone else. >>8889there is a danger (although it's much bigger under FPTP) that the destruction of the Labour party only leads to something worse.
imagine if we were so unfortunate as to live in Canada, with a choice between Conservatives and Liberals only, the party that's sort-of-vaugely-like-labour running a weird third except for when it breaks your heart by becoming the official opposition but then dropping back to third instead of becoming the government or at least staying second, and actual socialists nowhere to be found.
i'm not saying you're wrong, given you're talking in the context of getting PR, but this is playing on my mind. the conditions that built Labour are gone, that puts the party in a very dangerous place because you could never re-assemble something like it after it was destroyed. yet the present leadership are committed to the course of action that is most likely to destroy the party.
democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism >>8893My bet would be that they'll put out a manifesto which will be left of the SNP in broad strokes but thin on actual policy. Given their target audience I suspect it will have more "an independent Scotland will need an independent Currency and an independent foreign policy" and less "Here is our fully costed plan for marginally improving schools in these three deprived areas."
Hopefully it'll be something with more substance which gives a clearer idea of where they are, but today isn't a day for optimism.
The funniest outcome would be if someone in the SNP leaked the SNP's concrete policy plans to Alba, allowing Alba to slip them into their manifesto (occasionally de-Blairing them) and then publish it a day before the SNP's comes out, but I'd put a 0% chance on that happening. The SNP's biggest items so far are things they announced in the last budget then announced again because they know the electorate are stupid enough to fall for it, and if anyone leaks they'd probably leak to Wings Over Scotland who would publish rather than quietly sharing.
>>8897It's more that a lot of people see that TERFs don't like the SNP and assume that the SNP must therefore be good, or at least be doing something right*, which is the sort of heuristic I could definitely see myself using if I wasn't really paying attention. The problem is that there wouldn't be half as many TERFs in Scotland if GRA reform had passed in 2017-18 and never been heard about again. By drawing it out (because they're politically cautious Blairites) the SNP has multiplied the number of TERFs in the country by god knows how many because they can keep appealing to all the horrible things that
might happen in reform passes. Once reform passes and nothing happens they'll have to go back to reading Irishmen having mental breakdowns over Canadians, which is far less useful for getting Scottish recruits.
*In a very token way they "are", in that they've put forward GRA reform. But every party had it in their manifesto, so instead of giving the SNP cheap "they're pro-trans rights!" credit for having it in their platform they should be getting torn apart for fucking up the delivery so badly.
>>8902genuinely hate how it's always racism driving this nonsense and not anti-americanism
like okay some people are the kind of sad-act boomers who actually care about the monarchy, can they not at least do it properly and be bigoted against the nouveau-riche from a nation of boorish yanks rather than being racist in the most american way possible?
>>8912This is not correct.
>>8913Probably right. Normies should be forced into a meme re education camp where they learn to stop with the crocodile tears and grow a pair
>>8908>Fucking “anti woke” people always have the thinnest fucking skinsIn fairness the woke people here are also being cunts. (but because this is idpol, everyone naturally takes one another in bad faith.)
In a normal society:
>These charities are trying to get the age of consent lowered to 10!No we aren't
>Yes you are, you've signed up to this document that says it!We didn't share that interpretation (and frankly definitely didn't actually read it, nobody has the fucking time to read 200 pages of filler about discrimination being bad.) but we'll ask to have them re-word that for clarity
>Okay byeIn Scotland:
>These charities are trying to get the age of consent lowered to 10!No we aren't you homophobe! This is a common trope used by blah blah blah fascism
>You fucking nonces! It's right here in the document that YOU signed! And YOUR organization has had a paedo problem in the past!This is actual literal textbook right-wing fascism with no evidence base whatsoever! I'm going to punch you!
>You're reported to the police!(Everyone just keeps going on like this, me, above it all, secretly hopes that Boris Johnson's letters of last resort contain an instruction to nuke Scotland.)
>>8911tbh I'm surprised you run with the interpretation that they're boomers who don't understand the internet rather than cynics trying to generate a chilling effect on the whole issue so that people will shut up.
(I may be giving Alba too much credit, but that's how I would do it.)
>>8918It's basically bullshit caused by everyone acting in bad faith. I find myself more unsympathetic to the SNP/Green crowd because they could easily have gone for this in a much more reasonable way, but instead they've become hysterical. Instead of just saying "If you'd show a little good faith…" they immediately assume that they're dealing with something made up whole-cloth and react accordingly. They are desperate for Alba to be a party of fascists, rather than a party of the vengeful, the angry, the disappointed and the confused.
Because I remain the lord advocate for chaos, I hope some mid-ranking SNP/Greens apparatchik winds up in court for their tweets during the campaign. Especially if they wind up being punished because of SNP legislation.
(I don't think anyone should be jailed, but a fine and some bad headlines would be very funny.)
I don't believe that there should be real life consequences for tweets, but I also don't believe there are any unacceptable tactics. Just unacceptable targets… My only hesitation would be that it would let middle class wankers posture as though they were genuinely oppressed… >>8924Nah I'm not, but the fact he didn't answer the accountants question means they're probably doing a BLM with the donations.
Can't wait for the Guido article about Proudfoot buying a £500k house in Shropshire.
>>166666>>8908Ebin
>>8920Oh hey, it's the woman from that Red World mod for HoI IV lmao
nazbolNazbol >>8941>im not a britah I see my mistake this is why you don't understand bants. What are you a kraut or a burger? One of the two. Equally worthless.
>>8940I wasn't suggesting voting for a different communist thing. I'm starting my own invisible comittee this election. Its just me and the Edinburgh to Glasgow line with a score to settle. Every single one of you fucks can take the long train through east calder for two months i don't give a fuck any more
>>8935I liked the prince more since he died. funny fucker and autistic enough to decide to re-design his landy (only autists own land rovers, it is known). Sounds like if he wasn't a royal we could have been friends.
>>8942Don't think scot intellectuals would clammer to suck your did like with Coupat and co, alas.
>>8943leave yankee. shoo.
>>8957idk never been, Sunderland does seem like a post industrial shithole though.
I was just talking about the uni. Heard that the public school lads there have competitions of "who can shag the poorest girl" or something like that.
Here is a taste anyway:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting_House
>Broadcasting House is the headquarters of the BBC, in Portland Place and Langham Place, London. The first radio broadcast from the building was made on 15 March 1932, and the building was officially opened two months later, on 15 May.
>The building showcases works of art, most prominently the statues of Prospero and Ariel (from Shakespeare's The Tempest) by Eric Gill. Their choice was fitting since Prospero was a magician and scholar, and Ariel a spirit of the air, in which radio waves travel.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Gill
>His personal diaries reveal that his religious beliefs did not limit his sexual activity, which included several extramarital affairs, incestuous sexual abuse of his two eldest teenage daughters, incestuous relationships with his sisters, and sexual acts on his dogSo, on the front of the BBC, there is a statue of a naked 13 year old boy, carved by a pedo.
Who else do we know that was a pedo associated with the BBC………………………………….
hint there is fucking loads of them and one in particular Oh fuck
>>8969Are there any MPs who are tankie enough to vote against it?
I'm assuming not
>>8986Genuine question - if you want "co-operatives, locally-owned businesses, social enterprises, and community-owned organisations" to work together, how can you do this without central power?
Surely the organisation of these groups "coming together" needs to be central.
>>8996nah m8 you can just have autonomous competing factions of centralised autonomous organisations. At no point would then inevitably result in there being a monopolistic single group.
This sort of shit exposed these types as liberals and anti-marxists.
brocialismBrocialism >>9016Who are:
>Yvette Cooper>Wes Streeting>Stella Creasy>Angela EagleJust off the top of my head I can think of four proper candidates, and three quarters of them are from one of the most oppressed minorities: white women.
>>9018>trust the planPic related it's the plan to
make the UK socialist make Labour socialist make over 20% of Labour socialist.
>>9022Can't wait for the SA COVID to take hold and make youth unemployment Spain tier. Then we're in the Cool Zone.
>>9023Free and independent, edited collaboratively with GCHQ.
>>9047Over ten thousand people marched for the NHS a few years ago and not one media establishment mentioned it, they even went past BBC HQ. A thousand people gave a few cops a kicking a month ago and it was in every paper for days.
I think there's been a doctrine shift and people are yet to catch up to how the police operate nowadays. I used to see constant evidence of police instigating violence at protests to break them up around 2008, but I actually see less as time goes on and the internet gets bigger. Nowadays they seem content to let the protest tire itself out. This deliberate shift imo most likely occurred around the time kettling became popular.
I think the police wouldn't be able to handle violent unrest nowadays, as we saw with the London riots and even a bit with BLM recently. This shift towards kettling and away from instigation ties in with this.
>>9049I won't rest until even GCHQ has smashed windows.
>>9050in my role as permanent secretary i can inform you that the manifesto commitment to ensure that "GCHQ has smashed windows" can be delivered immediately, provided you are willing to inform your party conference that you were using those words rather more laterally than the expected. [spoiler]that is to say, to refer to the fact the Windows operating system has more back doors than one of those old trains where every compartment got a door.[/spoiler]
>>9051Tony Blair achieved more for evil through action than any good person will ever achieve through inaction.
(Unless someone invents a time machine and then ties Tony Blair to a trolley line, then relies on good people
not pulling the lever to redirect it in the interest of altruism)
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