Who would win in a physical fight Alex Salmond or George Galloway?
According to google both are the same height, can’t find weights
Salmond defo weighs more, but I feel like Galloway could use his cat powers.
c. 2014 i'd bet on Salmond reasonably comfortably. Nowadays I'm not so sure, Salmond seems quite frail since the whole "being abandoned or betrayed by practically all of his colleagues of the last 40 or so years of his life" thing (at the very least he's lost weight) while Galloway doesn't seem to have changed much since 2014.
If you google “Alex salmond excercise” it comes up with an article about how he plays golf, which would give him somewhat improved lats, a good twisting hip motion for punching, and the physical fitness of walking.
If you google “George Galloway excercise” it comes up with nothing.
Galloway does indeed have big cat energy so that’s one point in his favour. A balanced game so far.
Alex is also eh… handsy though… kek
Judging by this picture salmond has the size advantage. >>8256
Looks like he’s having a seizure/ is autistic or something
Also: Nicola Sturgeon VS Priti Patel
Sturgeon gets Scottish scheme points, but Patel is an Israeli agent so knows Krav Maga. Also sturgeon would try and play fair by Patel would be wearing sharpened heels or some shit. Although Patel is a bully and therefore a coward so if sturgeon landed a blow Patel would foriet the fight.
Patel is 5.3 and so is Sturgeon.
The fight is televised obviously
What the fuck is the end game of this? They gonna go Republican or something?
you idiot, they're unionists, they don't want a border in the irish sea
Well exactly so what the fuck is gonna happen when they fall out with Brits over it
you think that the result of unionists doing this will lead to becoming a republic instead of and independent commonwealth dominion?
Well this is what I’m asking idk really
Lamo you think this is havoc? this is a normal marching season for Ulster.
Pressure the gov to go harder on brexit. A part of it is also a revolt against the PSNI and more generally good friday: this is Dissident Loyalism finally rearing it's head.
Yeh but without a Republican movement to fight against what do dissident loyalists do?
Can you deep-fry communism? The Scots would find a way.
Well 1) there is a dissident republican movement, the New IRA are a thing you know, 2) their target its the state itself: they believe the post GFA system is rigged to catholics so they turn their targets against the state. The fact that the Nationalists were allowed a funeral last week just proves it.
I mean, does anyone deserve being burned alive?
no, we all like to larp on here but if a comrade actually started planning to kill police officers I'd assume their a agent provocateur. Different if shit kicks off, but we're not in tsarist russia
I'm not saying whether policemen deserve to die, presumably they'd force our hand on how violent a revolution gets, but actually setting another human on fire seems unspeakably cruel and savage. Like, it (as well as boiling people alive) was formerly an execution used to scare people into compliance.. is that ever justifiable for a socialist revolution, no matter how violent the state and the police make it?
Ah he's found Galloway's Nazbol Grift.
The what now?nazbolNazbol
Shower thought: People who pay the most lip service to the values of democracy and majority representation, also happen to be the people who coincidentally represent the majority in demographics like race, gender identity, class, wealth and power.
Has he ever actually tipped his fedora?
He tips for Anti-natonalistm (British unionism)accelerationAcceleration
Nah, I'll be watching this cunt instead lmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTBC5pbpjownazbolNazbol
Yup, its a standard social democratic platform.
However, what is the workers party's actual vehicle for change?
At this point I literally don't care what a leftist party is saying about policies. They all say roughly the same shit, from the communist party to the trots to the workers party to the left of the labour party.
What I want to know is how do you plan to do it, when all these others have not
Wet blankets can even sell a little ching
This has kinda got me thinking, I wonder if every country on earth has a drug trade that has two major sides, a CIA side and another side, probably in a country like the UK its almost entirely CIA because we have no revolutionary movement, but in Ireland it will be half Mi5 (unionists) and half anti (IRA). Of course, the majority is in the hands of the CIA, but small pockets of it are in control of revolutionary groups
>Security sources say the new leadership [of the New IRA] is more radical and aims to reinvigorate the group by permitting cells to carry out attacks without having to get approval from a central command.
Dissos are gonna do some shit.
fucking keked out loud nice work lad.
Do you have a source for this? Just haven't seen it posted elsewhere and would love to see the response.
People under 40 listen to MOATS? man. thats crazyyy.
Ye, gotta listen to Norma from Bristol
She even got a twitter nowaccelerationAcceleration
I always listen to the whole thing piss bored when i go to my mums for sunday dinner and unironically Norma from brizzle is the highlight of the show. She is a jewel of the city.
Burger here. What’s so bad about Sturgeon? She seems like a relatively normal shitlib politician.
Yeah this, she's a Clintonite but has no power over foreign policy making her pretty meh.
Some people here are just obsessed with a sexual deviant, however legally, who hasn't been politically active in any significant way for half a decade.
Also Easter Monday tomorrow, the dissos are gonna be marching. Either the police shut them down, causing mayhem, or they don't and the loyalists are pissed off and causes even more mayhem.
it's more that when he was politically active he delivered free tuition, free prescriptions, an independence white paper that proposed a very slightly better country, and an independence referendum all in the space of a few years.
sturgeon's achievements over the last few years by contrast: creating the most politically active TERFs in the country by dithering on the GRA, starting and then ditching the named person scheme, a growth commission report that makes George Osborne look like a social democrat, and some opinion polls that say people would vote "Yes" by tiny margins because the UK has just spent the last 4 years collapsing in on itself.
salmond could be the worst person in the world and he'd still be worth supporting against a bad government if he had a shot of making their lives harder.
I wouldn’t totally blame Sturgeon, the Scots voted to remain in the UK with the ‘no’ campaign being>London: you can’t leave, you won’t be able to survive being independent>Yes Scots: We can’t leave, we will not be able to survive being independent
The only reason why Scotland is considering reversing the cuckoldry is because Brexit isn’t what Scotland wants. Salmond is just getting back on the horse now because of that, but knew the writing was on the wall that losing the referendum was the end of the independence movement for this generation at least.
Come on, she only became the leader when the referdumn failed.
And not a single mention about owning the means of production…
i would say the yes movement actually peaked after the end of the referendum, retaining considerable momentum until the EU referendum came along and then increasingly drifting from the SNP after that.
instead of fostering a healthy relationship between activists and the SNP which could be used to help make a long-term case for independence, sturgeon basically treated them as nothing but a vote bank while stripping away more and more internal democracy from the SNP itself (turning conferences from an area where policy can be discussed to blairite PR exercises), making a mockery of the tens of thousands who joined the party post-independence. realistic prospects for independence have increasingly been sidelined by labour style "one more heave!" campaigning. the post-2016 SNP has promised referendums it knew weren't going to happen more often than Labour has promised to abolish the house of lords!
meanwhile the SNP government itself has failed to excite: you can't say "oh, independence was rejected so we can't do anything interesting with devolution". salmond couldn't get a referendum from 2007-11 and he still lead a perfectly respectable government. even if independence has been kicked into the long grass there's no excuse for the party itself to be in government but without purpose. the stated purpose of being judged on education has failed, education has gotten worse. if social liberalism is her real focus, there's no impressive record there either: why on earth has it taken a full parliament to not
pass the GRA reforms?
then there's the utterly neoliberal growth commission report, the increasingly militaristic defence policy, the increasingly petty internal factional games, the refusal to look at the case for independence as it now stands (the 2014 white paper is dead), etc, etc. all of which a better leader could have avoided, all of which a bad leader should be forced out over.
There are no "means of production" in BritainbrocialismBrocialism
(i'm leaving him to look up distribution and exchange by himself.)
God I hate you. If the Soviets took power in a pre-industrialised country then we can bloody well take power in a 'post'-industrial society. Be gone Labour shill
So you would be building the means of production not seizing them?brocialismBrocialism
That's it, I have to say it:
Zootopia (Zootropolis to those who pretend they didn't torrent it) is an incredibly overrated film. Weak on its own merits, it hangs around in certain places purely because it gives furries a base on which to build porn. In the sort of platonic ideal world where you can take the animals out of a film about animal racism and replace them with a non-animal "equal quality" substitute, nobody would remember it as anything more than another Disney dud.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8324>watching a furry film
i hope so, politics has been shit for a while now
You guys think its worth booking a holiday? I've got a couple weeks over in late may.brocialismBrocialism
Question to Brits, how are y’all gonna brexit when all your industry got transferred out and now all y’all produce is just gig economy shit?
That happened in 1980 you fucking retardbrocialismBrocialism
So that's 15% of the UK's economy are industrial exports
, that doesn't account for internal consumption.
>>8326>3 old scottish cunts in a room, wanking eachother off.
God that would be hell and also something i'd pay to watch.
Answer the question
The question makes no fucking sense.
he's a yank, he won't understand
The question was what’s the point of brexit if the industry was transferred out of the UK in the 80s with thatcher? It’s not like England is reindustrializing.
That's not what happened nor the point but fuck it you'd never understand.
EU manufacturers are buying up factories in the UK
>West London student found dead in Epping Forest after disappearing walking home
This sounds exactly like the Sarah Everman case. Here's my conspiracy theory: there is a gang of met police going around murdering people from London and dumping their bodies in the home counties. Why? First of all in both cases the police were slow to respond to calls from the families to the missing persons. Then the series of events are similar: someone reported missing, police slow to react, then big media campaign, then they're found dead in a rural locale outside of the city they were taken from. They also both disappeared in similar circumstances: walking to meet someone, disappeared right off the street. Now sure this can just be coincidence, most people aren't abducted and murdered from their house, but here's one other thing that gets my Epstein sense tingling. The pig-murderer of Everman was, while in detention, having to receive at-least twice treatment for head injuries. Now either he tried to kill himself by banging his head against a wall, or he was beaten up by police. Now he could be beaten up in the classic cop way of "you fucker you made us look bad", or he could have been the target of silencing beatings. I dunno maybe i am off my nut but I feel like there's something here.
the lad went to epping forest late at night for some unknown reason. It was quite a distance away, and they have no known connection to it. apparently he was on meds for some condition and hadn't taken any for the next morning so it looked like he planned to come back.
also he was found at the bottom of a pond, so maybe he lost the plot or went out to do some acid and accidentally drowned? no foul play suspected yet.
Yeah and I've got a theory called ACAB
forgot to add, everards body was found in pieces in binliners, the young lad that they found is in one piece
Reports that a poll commissioned by the CWU trade union will show the tories winning Hartlepool.
Bahahaha the absolute state England.
Why do scots look like Middle Easterners
Because it was founded by an Egyptian princess.
Being furry is the least of its problems
(Except that being furry makes it notable, if it wasn't furry everyone would forget it for the low rate mixed messages copaganda it is and then it could just be ignored.)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
he just tells you that he wants to fuck the bunny but doesn't know how to be sly
I don't like Zootopia much and I am one of the furries.
Nothing about it was particularly re-watchable, it was generic racism bad film that not-so-subtly reified the foundations of racism.
wasn't sly the raccoondemocratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
(eating the mince pies with a use by date of april 1st) mmm yum these are delicious i'm so smart saving money and a walk to the shops in the rain by ignoring the food standards agency
(feeling a bit sick a few hours later) ohh… maybe not so smart…
Oh you wanna go huh?
I won't deny Zootopia was furry bait but you can't just say 'well what if it didn't have furries in it' because it did. It's also based and anti-carnist pilled.
How much does this cost and what can we get him to say?brocialismBrocialism
ABAP- all boomers are perverts
>your friend chuck has put me on to you
Yeah but it's like asking you to imagine a nicotine free cigarette. They exist, but their marketshare is much more in tune with their objective qualifies stripped of the cheap tricks of chemical addiction. If you're going to make a furry bait film then make it a good film, don't make a boring film and then clock off at 5 safe in the knowledge that a meandering, unexciting plot will be carried by the core audience wanting to fuck the animals.
Also i swear they eat fish. If you want a vision of the zooture imagine a billion furries smugposting on /r/pescetarian forever.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
She presided over the rightward shift of a party formerly more left wing than labour (still is tbh).
Although people calling her clintonite are brain melted. She hasn’t done anything anywhere near as bad as Libya, Syria, Honduras etc
it's easy to not oversee any wars when you have no foreign policy power. she's heaped praise on clinton in the past, said she owes her gratitude, etc. if it's fair comment to call starmer blairite despite the fact he never voted for the iraq adventure, the same is true of calling sturgeon clintonite.
plus ian blackford (who surely takes his orders from sturgeon) very clearly wants regime change in syria, to the point of accusing boris johnson of being insufficiently keen. from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it is impossible to say which is which…
Starmer put through a bull allowing the glow to rape people how did the SNP vote on that? SNP under sturgeon also voted against the crime and policing bill > a woman world leader said niceities about another woman world leader
Well I never they literally never do this
starmer's vote for and sturgeon's vote against had exactly the same effect: sweet fucking nothing. a majority government with no significant rebellion and two chancers posturing from a comfortable position of impotence. (i would check if the SNP made the effort to whip everyone to turn up - which labour clearly didn't do, even on their own amendments - but theyworkforyou is a surprisingly shit website.)
perhaps ms. sturgeon should bring out the niceties for margaret thatcher next? after all she was a #girlboss too. and why be imbalanced about it, why not invite mr. blackford to deliver a glowing eulogy for mr. blair? (to say nothing of the question of "in what way is voting against the crime and policing bill not
compatible with clintonite liberalism?", are we naively forgetting when the Conservatives defeated Blair's push for 90 day detention?)
no amount of hiding behind parliamentary posturing or the worthlessness of the labour party can escape the SNP's militaristic defense policy, a parliamentary party gagging to have meetings with MI5 agents, and the westminster leader of the party whinging that the government isn't doing enough to topple assad.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8369>Going down the RevSoc and only having the queen abolish the monarchy and not the Communist path and choosing the option to give the royal family the Romanov treatment
>>8371>anyway i want our probably-literally-autistic prime minister back
lel, what makes you so sure that Theresa May is autistic?nazbolNazbol
a mixture of the number of stories of her being privately awkward and weird and a vested interest in making her more sympathetic for the purposes of attacking Starmer while 2017 nostalgiaposting.
here's a story from her chief of staff, who has just lost his seat thanks to the 2017 election and been asked to be her chief of staff:>You can imagine, knowing Theresa, that was not an easy conversation to have initially. But I was very upfront about it. I said, 'I can’t do the job unless I understand you. I know you hate having these kinds of conversations, so I’ve come up with a game to make it a bit easier. I’m going to tell you three things about Theresa May, three things you’ve done that I love and made me really proud as a Conservative MP, and three things you’ve said that I disagree with and don’t like. We’ll use that as a way of getting the conversation going.'
it's just great, the prime minister of the country being so opaque that even her own chief of staff is reduced to desperately flipping through middle management seminars to try to figure out a way to get her to talk. or look to the countdown to the brexit extension where the point was well made: literally nobody, except perhaps her husband, knew which way she might jump because literally nobody knows her.
plus it adds a nice solidaristic dimension to the letting Gary McKinnon go thing.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8296>and the creation of a socialist republic therein
Socialist movement based on nationalism (shockingly) turns into nationalism yet again take 312318247153781
God I fucking hate that wanker so much, why did they have to kill Joe Cox couldnt they have just saved it for this fucking moron and do us all a favour
let them implode, there's nothing worth saving with Labour anymore. They have been well and truly subverted.
The real solution to the Ireland question is making the north part of an independent Scotland.spurdoSpurdo
That post just made my head explode.
Oops, meant to say KeknazbolNazbol
>>8380> the north part of an independent Scotland.
I thought Scotland was heavily involved in the oppression of Ireland?
Scottish devolution: 1997
Good Friday agreement : 1998
I honestly forget that people actually like Johnson sometimes. I feel like if I was a right winger I'd want a better leader.
Metropolitan libs will seethe at these views, but like I've said many times, the norf luvs socialism
Metropolitan libs agree with these polls though, the only people that think privatisation is the way are careerists and millionaires that run the party
>A4U is projected to win one seat
>It is in Scotland South
<The head of the list in Scotland South is actually Galloway himself
Goddamn it's all happening isn't it anons.
How does Galloway keep on doing it?brocialismBrocialism
>>8369>Galloway being the leader of anything
People like him would sooner be a martyr instead. These people do not intend to obtain political power to wield, only bludgeon those that do.
They will blame the soft left/Corbynites for this again somehow.
how? the Labour candidate is a Blairite
They still will, Starmer's being advised by fucking Mendelson.
I knew Blair stopped advising him but not Mandelson took his place, kek.
Hartlepool is the perfect kicking Labour needs to sort its shit out but if they win it then all hope is lost until after the next GE.
Taking bets now as to whether the CPGB-ML read all the Craig Murray blogs about Salmond just to try and figure out what sort of rugs were in the buildings he was accused of doing crimes in.the article itself has quite a weird structure. it's like 80% "salmond was fitted up, very suspicious, hmm, craig murray says…" before concluding "Salmond’s real crime: the incitement of reactionary separatism amongst the British working class… Frankly, it is his obsession with dividing the British working class against itself via his poisonous nationalist ideology that he needs to be ostracised."
also is it weird for the CPGB-ML to quote the from the WSWS in neutral terms? that seems weird given they're trots but i must confess i have not been keeping up to date with either.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Whilst funny, how do 4% not know who the fucking prime minister is?
Drugs are basedbrocialismBrocialism
Burger here, is Britain's conservative government more left wing than Britain's labor? Because it seems like people are more and more ditching labor all together for the tory government.
Both are based centrists.
Isn't that 4% "don't know", i.e. they know who he is but lack an opinion on him?
no, they literally don't have a clue who he is
ignore that, yes they dont have an opinion
wew, Blairites now going after Unite for the Joe Anderson stuff. Can't wait for the unions to desert
Found out yesterday my manager who left the job to pursue only fans was for 3 months “estimating” our hours and basically putting through lower hours and I’ve lost out on a shitload of money.
Literally counting down the days until tenants unions come up against landlords who made their money on only fans and the only fans landlord garners support from the woke girlboss community
The vibe fits right into fear the sphere. Crossover when?
Yeah they are trying to repeat the 1990s.
See in this regard Alex Salmond is pretty based. Him and Galloway will agree on this at least
Shell shock from shock doctrine: legit.
Sage, considering you are British, does the perpetual lack of sunlight explain why the British are so war-like and devoid of love and emotions?tankieTankie
Honestly can't wait for when they are both in the Scottish Parliment. The banter is gonna be crackbrocialismBrocialism
It's gonna be amazing. I can't fucking wait.
My other though is that with Galloway in parliment, what kinda wacky charchters can he invite.
My first thoughts are Joti Brar and Caleb MaupinbrocialismBrocialism
Children of a dead empire, living vampire like on financial capital gleaned from robbery of the third world, the little productive jobs make up a labour aristocracy and everyone else just wants to drink themselves to death. >>8426
Time will tell if we see light Galloway where he is simultaneously reaching across the aisle with salmond to oppose imperialism or if it’s dark Galloway who will refuse to do this because muh union. Of late I fear it’s the latter.
But for sure British politics have literally reverted to 2007 era We’ve got Alex salmond, Galloway and Tony Blair (who is on the way out) just after a massive recession and I’ve got back into screamo music to boot
>>8428>Only Nazis hate the globe trotting murderous anglos
Imperialist anglo copeHoly fuck, this is the ONLY imageboard where I need to select an image FIFTEEN FUCKING TIMES FOR IT TO UPLOAD, are the jannies retarded???tankieTankie
DOn't forget riots because nobody can do anything over the summer.
Did history genuinely end?
I hate the West so much bros, nothing changes heretankieTankie
>>8432>63 million aboriginal austrailians
No way m8, come off itbrocialismBrocialism
If George Galloway gets elected, will that make the CPGB-ML the most electorally successful Marxist group in Britain since WW2?brocialismBrocialism
does he have anything to do with CPGB-ML? i thought his parties were independent.
He's head of the Workers party, which is basically the electoral arm of the CPGB-ML. The activists are all the same and Joti Brar (Head of CPGB-ML) is vice leader of Workers party.brocialismBrocialism
>>8442>that stalin shirt
WordArt is praxis.
ngl, that's really fucking cringenazbolNazbol
>>8430>Of late I fear it’s the latter.
Same tbh, especially with his "Alliance 4 Unity" cuckerynazbolNazbol
Nah, CPGB got MPs elected and had cllrs up until the 1990s.
They were always cringe libs and before that, they were Nazi Sympathisers.brocialismBrocialism
They had their last mp elected in 1945, which is why I said since ww2? Don't know weather any party had representation above council level since then.brocialismBrocialism
IS THAT A FUCKING CPGBML BELT BUCKLE???
We generally include the 1945 election as "since WWII", but yeah I don't think they did.
I mean Militant had MPs elected (as labour members ofc) but I imagine you dont consider them marxist).
Nah militant were Marxist. But they got them elected as part of Labour. Which is why I didn't count it, since labour isn't Marxist.brocialismBrocialism
Reminder his regularly repeated plan for Scottish independence was to make it a tax haven. Cutting taxes and slashes services.
So yes , they where always libsbrocialismBrocialism
Aren't you the guy defending Kier?
>>8454>and slashes services
literally never happened. you will go to your grave attempting to find an example of salmond espousing this.
>>8432>20,000 Cornish dead
Not enough if you ask me
No , I said we should stay in Labour in order to get rid of Kier. I'd never vote for the party in its current state. But the only potentially successful strategy for the left is to retake the leadership of the labour party.brocialismBrocialism
So you would commit entryism, but also tell your faction not to vote for Labour, making your faction worse than useless to Labour voters. But then somehow expect everyone to back you.
Oh yeah… it's Brocialist hours
Cope and Seeth, his policy after 2008 was cutting taxes, while he has cutting services.
Bonus of Salmond getting the party to abbandon its anti-nato stance under his leadership in 2012brocialismBrocialism
This is literally what the Blairite faction did under Corbyn and now they are in leadership.brocialismBrocialism
>>8462>implying the right faction of Labour started in the Corbyn years
>>8461>his policy after 2008 was cutting taxes, while he has cutting services.
in a parliament with a fixed budget facing budget cuts as a result of budget cuts in England, you unsalvagable moron.
also the local income tax plan was literally killed by a UK labour government being pissy about losing the election. https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/westminster-threat-withhold-ps400m-2480654
>>8463>Implying there isn't a major left faction still in the labour party
He was still advancing tax cuts when his budget had been cut. Rather than raising taxes to cover the funding loss from the goverment.brocialismBrocialism
he didn't control any taxes except the unworkable scottish rate of income tax, which nobody ever used and which the UK govt never even set up the infrastructure to collect until the post-2014 devolution review, and council tax.
"in an independent scotland we'd cut corporation tax because as a small country the lower % would be made up for by a higher number of companies based here" may be a dubious policy, but it's not a move towards austerity, nor does it have any relevance to the budget of the devolved parliament. (except "we could avoid these cuts if we had full control over our own budget. indeed, we could literally just borrow money.")
note that welsh labour made massive budget cuts in the same period.
So he did control, some taxes. Council tax (Which he tried to cut while making MASSIVE CUTS).
>""in an independent scotland we'd cut corporation tax because as a small country the lower % would be made up for by a higher number of companies based here""
Proposing becoming a tax haven and laugher curve bs.
>note that welsh labour made massive budget cuts in the same period.
Yeah the labour party sucks and are liberals , whats your piontbrocialismBrocialism
They do it in Northern Ireland lamo.
So much for the SNP taking back control at Holyrood.
are you only just learning that the UK devolves shit at random?
up next you'll learn that the UK government doesn't like giving Scotland powers because it tends to find a more popular way of using them than westminster.
(for the avoidance of doubt: the tory proposals were implemented, the ~ on VAT includes no power to vary VAT, but means that the scottish budget will fluctuate with VAT receipts.)
>>8465>Major left faction>30 MPs
How well did this major left faction do under Corbyn?
They held the leadership of the biggest left wing party in Europe for 4 years.brocialismBrocialism
if anything the experience surely demonstrated the difficulties of taking a shortcut to a position of power without the institutional power to back it up.
corbyn's leadership of labour was as though the SDLP suddenly found their leader as prime minister of an alternate timeline UK where premiers are directly elected. absolutely, they held the position, but fundamentally they found themselves dependent on a parliamentary structure which was almost entirely hostile, which would have to be bypassed in order to get anything done and which would be constantly doing its best to undermine them. the best that could be achieved in such circumstances is to rig up the necessary requirements for a longer-form takeover of institutions while holding the leadership. that didn't happen.
(in a snappy line: corbyn's big failure was to go for election wins rather than deselections, although always running against the risk that deselections could trigger a split that would destroy the labour party entirely.)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
holy BASEDdemocratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Do y'all tip on Deliveroo?brocialismBrocialism
I tip 25% on the rare occasion I use their parasitic service
though I'm in NA and we have different version of the same "service", not sure if yall get paid better or something >>8480
Okay question for the boffins: in a fordist service economy like the one we are emerging into, is it better during a strike to boycott a service or to overload it? I lean on the latter, the idea being if during a deliveroo strike a fucktonne of people order it it creates backflow which fuckers with deliveroo even more. Would be interested to hear your thoughts on it.
depends what the payout on overload is
if deliveroo keeps the money but gives you a coupon or something if they're too late then trying to overload them mightj ust feed them more money
although if you were devilish, finding a way to place fake orders without giving deliveroo anything even if they arrive on time would be neat…
They weren’t Nazi sympathisers don’t start this again you were humiliated last time utterly
Refusing conscription during WWII makes you pro-nazi, doesnt matter what you believe.
>>8486>absolutely zero nuance
Of course, as we discussed before in this thread, being anti conscription was a huge thing post WW1. Wonder why that could be… you have hindsight brain where everybody immediately knew what the Nazis were upto, in fact, many groups believed WW2 to be just another imperialist war.
Guess Irish refusal of conscription makes them for the Kaiser?
With the beginning of the Second World War in 1939, the CPGB initially continued to support the struggle on two fronts (against Chamberlain at home and Nazi fascism abroad). Following the Molotov–Ribbentrop nonaggression pact on August 23 between the Soviet Union and Germany, the Comintern immediately changed its position. The British party immediately fell in line, campaigning for peace, and describing the war as the product of imperialism on both sides, and in which the working class had no side to take. This was opposed within the CPGB by Harry Pollitt and J. R. Campbell, the editor of the Daily Worker, and both were relieved of their duties in October 1939. Pollitt was replaced by Palme Dutt. From 1939 until 1941 the CPGB was very active in supporting strikes and in denouncing the government for its pursuit of the war.
However, when in 1941 the Soviet Union was invaded by Germany, the CPGB reversed its stance immediately and came out in support of the war on the grounds that it had now become a war between fascism and the Soviet Union. Pollitt was restored to his old position as Party Secretary. In fact, the Communists' support for the war was so vociferous that they launched a campaign for a Second Front in order to support the USSR and speed the defeat of the Axis. In industry, they now opposed strike action and supported the Joint Production Committees, which aimed to increase productivity, and supported the National Government that was led by Winston Churchill (Conservative) and Clement Attlee (Labour).democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
I told him not to humiliate himself but he’s not going to listen
We haven't discussed shit sage.>>8489
Quakers during WWII joined shit like the Red Cross or the Bevin Boys. SNP were like "erhm yes I am not going to fight mr hitler while he is genociding half of europe because scotland should be independent". This also goes for Gandhi and the IRA-cunts that got funding from the Abwehr for the record.
Me and the flag I was responding to, have discussed this before, in spectacular fashion I might add. It wasn’t just me, but the entire thread, telling him so fuck off as per, as he trotted out half truth after half truth, all casually swept aside with a simple 5 minutes on google, mind, multiple posters were doing this. Can’t wait till he posts the picture of the random man in a kilt with children dressed as Nazis again
The snp also weren’t opposed to the war or even conscription, just conscription by the British state. What date was the Easter rising again? Remind me please. At this point in history, Britain was still by far and away the absolute worst entity on earth, given that the worst ravages of WW2 were yet to come and even then, the Holocaust is still not as bad as the British Empire, despite our collective Brit education historical revisionism that drilled our exceptionalism into our heads. I will remind you the British empire created the state of Israel directly after the war, which continues to do genocide until this day. By the way, the Nazis and zionists were also collaborative as well as this the British royals were huge Nazi sympathisers. But I guess things are completely black and white to a simpleton as always
And also forget the Easter rising give me the dates of the events known collectively as “red clydside” where Lord Mountbatten, noted pedophile royal, who was later involved in an abortive fascist coup of the British state, was the head of a force of troops which was sent to Scotland to put down a socialist uprising, quite possibly the closest the U.K. has ever had to a Marxist inspired socialist revolution. Wonder why Scottish leftists wouldn’t want to join in.
>>8485>Refused consciription>Quoted hitler positivly in speaches>Worked with Nazi intellegance
Sounds like nazi sympathisers to me SagetardbrocialismBrocialism
>>8489>socdem>pro british war crime
Yawn sources please
Restorative justice is bullshit and some people (fascists and right wing supporters) need to be killed.
GOOGLE BRIAN ROSE
I get that's Norn, but where?
Fuck me. It won't go paramilitary but this will cause a big cleavage in the Unionist Community: a lot of thema re auth law and order types and a lot are basically anarcho-ethnonats.
Holy shit the door was open, poor fucking driver man. Fucking loyalist pricks.
Reports of molotovs being thrown both ways on Lanark road (separates Shankill and a tributary of Falls).
Ofc they are, they are a part of the state apparatus now. They always wanted the THREAT of violence but now there is Actual violence, they are bricking it. The TUV are the ones that gain here: they are the political wing of dissident loyalism now (also polled 10% for Stormont).
BRING BACK, BRING BACK
BRING BACK THE BLACK AND TANS
re: 2021 Northern Ireland
Does ACAB apply there?
So you don’t have one that isn’t embarrassing then
Anarcholoyalists vs the armed wing of the state? Tbh PSNI are dogshite but they dont try and pogrom catholics anymore.
Is there a rule that bastards can’t attack bastards? Don’t think so. It’s just a bastard fight. Whoever gets hurt I win. Feelsgoodman
I should have clarified, I wasn't trying to imply there was a right site. Only if cops are shit there, since some regions they are generally well-meaning despite being capitalist enforcers.
I see momentum’s platform for the 2021 conference and I’m just like, k. Not gonna happen though is it. Labour Party is a nostalgia society for 2019 at this point.
They still p damn bad, but they are angels compared to the RUC of old.
Cheers for the insight.
I'm dumb burger, wtf is going in in Ireland?https://mobile.twitter.com/EmmaVardyTV/status/1379918204437422087
Is history restarting again?
Carm down lad, it's just a riot. :)
you can't commit war crimes against nazis + you surely agree the soviets would never request a war crime be conducted, and they requested bombings in dresden.>>8501
the buying british military hardware proposal is the funniest thing
there have been too many british military procurement disasters to count.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
I don't think they will go indie. Oil is no longer a cash cow and they cannot have the pound if they want to join the EU. Also, recent finance expert has said the day of independence and the scottish pound formed, it will devalue by 25%.
Glad you found a way to be above it all. >>8525
Happy Thatchers dead day lads.
What does it matter what I do? She won anyway.
Put a rose on her grave
>>8529>post picture of a british toilet>what would you do lads?
What am I supposed to do? I'm gonna piss if I need to piss, I'm gonna shit if I need to shit.
The rose needs organic fertilizer
4 day weeks are so much more comfy. Even if they had a shit leader I'd vote for a party with it as a policy.
They really are, having Friday as a Free Day opens so many doors.
Thursday night to get smashed
Friday to be hungover
Saturday to put some time to theory
Sunday to thank the Lordchristian_communismChristian Communism
Lads, how do I organise if I'm basically a Tarquin?
>Grandad a porky
>Live in rural home counties
I'm scared the comrades will bully me.
A lot of prominent revolutionaries had a boujie background. Actions speak louder than words comrade. If they're seriously bullying you because of your up brining and ignoring your contributions then they're not worth their salt as an activist.christian_communismChristian Communism
Keep organizing or I will find you and bully you
Donate your excess funds to 3rd world maoists`brocialismBrocialism
just contact your closest branch of the cpgb(ml)
maybe punt for a more secretarial position?
Rural home counties is where the votes come from, so your location is not an issue.
You’re talking about momentum platform that’s cool bro it’s a good idea but literally how are you doing to get it what is your plan. I don’t wanna hear anything more about policy until you tell me concretely how the fuck we are going to get to a position where we can implement it
If you get a salary you are working class by the Marxist definition.
Do you live rural like in a village or rural like out in an isolated home with nothing around it but fields and forests?
Honestly if it’s the former and it’s just a village of retired pensioners you need to move it a city or larger town. If it’s not, you need to find out about class issues in your area, probably by locating local groups or interested peoples. This would be your first step.
If it’s the latter, prob gonna be moving to a city.
You may be a PMC but do you rent? Do a lot of people in your area rent? Is there a lot of homeless where you live?
We need details lad. As many details about yourself, your local area etc as you can give without doxxing yourself. Then we can assess.
Being a tarquin will make it more difficult to enter salt of the earth working class spaces and be listened to but actually, working class people are generally not automatically full of hate for people slightly richer than them, and if you have something useful to say and don’t act like a stuck up Tarquinius nonce the worst you’ll get is a bit of banter.
I'm sure the CPGB-ML could find something useful for him to do even if he's stuck in the middle of bumfuck nowhere
You're the Surrey Anon aren't you?
Tbh mood, I am much the same in background (my grandparents aren't porkies, they were teachers but still). It's hard honestly, because most of the time there's no rooted place to start: most people are employed by the petit-bourgeois or in big supermarkets that are antiseptic to organising. I'd suggest maybe contacting your local USDAW branch, chances are you are 45 minutes driver from one of those Amazon Hellhouses and giving them your time and effort is more than worth it.
Is this actually possible without getting IRLb&?>>8543
Essentially is already. I'm an accountant, so I manage money not people.>>8546
Small village, but there are small towns (25k to 50k people) and large towns (250k) within about an hour's drive, say. Can't really move, my wife's parents live nearby and they need a fair bit of looking after. I don't rent, I am sure there are a lot of renters near here but I think a lot are upper management types who commute to the city, lot of commuter towns and retirement villages here.
I guess my main impediment is I am starting out so cut off from all of this. I have lived an easy 'middle class' life all my childhood, in work I have been separated from the people actually working and their issues. So now I'm actually starting to think about these things I don't know where to start, I don't know what the issues are or how to help. I am also a dead fish and lack the charisma or energy to start anything myself.>>8548
Not Surrey guy, no. In non-lockdown times, my work is quite near an amazon hellhouse. The place I work has an environment not dissimilar to amazon in fact, it's basically a small factory run by a family, with idiot family and friends in all key positions. Anyone who even thinks of unionising is let go, or just not given hours.
>>8549>Not Surrey guy, no. In non-lockdown times, my work is quite near an amazon hellhouse. The place I work has an environment not dissimilar to amazon in fact, it's basically a small factory run by a family, with idiot family and friends in all key positions. Anyone who even thinks of unionising is let go, or just not given hours.
Well for starters that's a crime, but there are ways around it. I'd get in contact with USDAW to help with the Amazon Hellhouse, and IWGB for your place (they are more radical and more ballsey).
Tbh in a way envy Norn Catholics and Protestants, for all the shit they have escaped neoliberalsiation and still have a stable industrial economy with high unionisation and a lack of atomisation.
>>8550>Well for starters that's a crime, but there are ways around it. I'd get in contact with USDAW to help with the Amazon Hellhouse, and IWGB for your place (they are more radical and more ballsey).
Yeah, but those laws are pretty toothless and as you say very easy to get around, if you have people on zero hours and just say there's no work for you sorry mate. The threat of losing jobs is enough to get most people to not do anything.
tbh I don't know if I'd feel right doing anything myself for my place, since I'm slightly apart from the workforce and the market for my labour is slightly different and I'd be starting shit that I'd be risking less in. I'd feel like a bit of a middle class white saviour complex thing going on. That might not be a good take, that's just my immediate though.
>>8552>if you have people on zero hours and just say there's no work for you sorry mate
the UK is screaming for a union about that
IWGB does a lot of work with gig-economy workers because they have to deal with exactly this shit, but yeah zero hours applies to a lot of jobs nowadays.
I wonder, has anyone actually pissed on it?nazbolNazbol
Who is this prick? He looks like the kind of arrogant london office cunt i'd rob in the street.>>8538>Grandad a porky>Parents PMC>PMC myself>Live in rural home counties
No anon, you will fit right at home with the comrades by the sounds of it. Join the labour party, it is for people like you.anarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism
any union designed for zero-hours workers will have a lot of clout with votes
are they the new proles?
need Keir Starmer to appoint me ambassador to Finlanddemocratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
So you can escape the purge and remain the one of the few standing old bolsheviks: as a woman noless?
>Lawrence Fox polling at 4%
AHAHAAHA fuck me lads
put that in my biography but the real reason is i want to see Finland>>8564
Michael Heseltine's looking well.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
What you need to do is get on googling and start searching for socialist groups in these nearby places, obviously depends on what kinda politics you are into, but if you're not sure, just spread fire some emails and see what pops up, if you are, you can make this more targeted obviously. Any group worth shit is gonna be happy to have new people who are keen to get involved. Probably your best bet if you don't want to be starting new stuff.
Perhaps given you are a carer you could consider looking into campaigns around providing care, which you do have experience of.
Starting what? Hoodies gathering is an everyday occurance in the north lol
Geezers need excitement
If there lives don't provide them they incite violence
Common sense, simple common senseanarchismAnarchism
You take that back casetteboy, Oriinal Pirate Material is a great record and Skinner and co are nationaltreasures. >:(
They tried to set up a barricade, seems some elders told them to stop and tore it down lol.
>>8573>anti unionist strikes
Oh my erection it is so fucking big right now
how is that anti-unionist?
Yeah it isn't anti-unionist, and Unite is a nonsectarian union (and tbh leads protestant just because they work more industrial jobs in Belfast area).
How bad is it getting in occupied Ireland?
they aren't even registered as a party, their application got rejected lmao
watching teenage voters interviewed on BBC Scotland is such a weird experience
hot takes: artist: "young people voting is good, let's do independence :)" guy in bedroom: "the attainment gap should be lower!" girl in library: "we should have a more diverse parliament! :)"
meanwhile here i am - here we are - with all our political illnesses, our revenge fantasies, our preferred way of tearing everything to bits and throwing the wreckage around because by god, this country has been on the wrong track for longer than we've been alive, and it's not heading anywhere near it. if we believe in voting at all, it will be on grounds steeped in 60 degrees of strategy or 46 degrees of contrarianism. no "i like the environment so i'm voting green", no "i think people should keep more of their money so i'm voting tory", no "i'm sort of an alright guy really but unfortunately my aversion to conflict has tricked me into voting lib dem", and certainly no "i like the idea of society so i'm voting labour", only "i'm voting conservative to unseat my Labour MP as punishment for the Iraq war, thereby maximizing internal pressure on the Labour party to change its leader", "i'm voting Labour because i want to show my ballot paper on /leftybritpol/ for (you)s which is the single most valuable thing my vote can deliver", "i'm voting liberal democrat because i genuinely believe this will kickstart a series of events culminating in Ed Davey being proclaimed head of the next caliphate."
the kids have it right. we are wrong, all wrong. for all of their sakes i hope to god none of them ever get into politics. oh by all means let them get a job in politics, let them become MSPs and let me with my overactive gallbladder spit all kinds of bile at them, but please god keep them away from history, keep them away from theory. nothing good ever comes of knowing either. i hope they're happy on the 6th of may, because unless there's a biblical flood to wash away the sins of this earth i know i'll be moaning away as usual.
You know it's fascinating how Sinn Féin activists were the ones today keeping Youths from heading to the Springfield Gate, instead pushing them up falls towards the Police. A part of me thinks "oh they just don't wan tviolence because it's bad for them", but another part of me thinks "oh they don't want violence against the prods but do want it against the police".
Wasn't just Sinn Féin, PBP were there too.
The utter state of this though
(Unless putting out Blairite dogwhistles is part of the act of being the southern
party, in which case fair play.)
>>8587>Trying to institutionalise and pacify the renter's movement
GET OUTTA HERE LADYbrocialismBrocialism
PHILIP IS DEAD
prince Philip's dead
not clickbait, gone sexual
Wahay, cheered me up on a shit day at work that.
Wait wtf, apparently prince Phillip founded and was head of the WWF for like 20 years.brocialismBrocialism
Congrats, I saw one of your inbred pedos died today. He was the one that couldn't stop running peasants over with his car right?
Yeah the royal family are massive greens Charles is big in the environmental movement.
Yes, he also had some trouble with "coloureds".stalinStalin
Anyone got any good prince phillip stories? I don't really keep up with the royals stuffbrocialismBrocialism
couresy of /brit/ the fasted thread on 4chan at the moment
1. "British women can't cook," he told the Scottish Womens' Institute in 1961. .
2. "It looks like the kind of thing my daughter would bring back from her school art lessons," he muttered while being shown Ethiopian art in 1965.
3. "I would like to go to Russia very much, although the bastards murdered half my family," at a very heated period of history in 1967.
4. "What do you gargle with? Pebbles?" he told singer Tom Jones at the 1969 Royal Variety Performance. Later he added: "It's difficult to see how it’s possible to become immensely valuable by singing what are the most hideous songs."
5. "We don’t come here for our health. We can think of other ways of enjoying ourselves," he told journalists in Canada in 1976.
6. "You are a woman, aren't you?" he said to a Kenyan woman, who was presenting him with a small gift in 1984.
7. "If you stay here much longer you will all be slitty-eyed," the Prince told British exchange students who lived in Xian in 1986. When asked on his opinion of Beijing, he replied: "Ghastly."
8. "If it has four legs and it is not a chair, if it has two wings and flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it." Again with the Chinese insults, when he addressed a World Wildlife Fund meeting in 1986.
9. "I don't think a prostitute is more moral than a wife, but they are doing the same thing," when dismissing claims those who slaughter for meat have greater moral authority than those who partake in blood sports in 1988.
10. "Oh no, I might catch some ghastly disease," when asked if he wanted to pet a koala in Australia back in 1992.
11. "You can't have been here that long — you haven't got a pot belly," he told a British tourist during a visit to Budapest in 1993.
12. "Aren't most of you descended from pirates?," he enquired to an islander while in the Cayman Islands in 1994.
Why tf do you anglos spell “color” with a u?>>8599> 1. "British women can't cook,"
But that’s actually true
Philip fought the nazis, which is more than the SNP can say.
you are still alivedemocratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Are any of us under neoliberalism?
we are the living dead, haunted by the dead futures that never lived.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Cytube on sky news cope, come join ladsstalinStalin
Forgot how much of a banger this is.
Is this real?brocialismBrocialism
Just googled it. Bruh this fella evilbrocialismBrocialism
The real redpill is that he was actually dead since over a year ago and COVID-19 was just his ghost haunting the world all along.syndicalismSyndicalism
HOLY FUCK ITS REAL
thread link plsstalinStalin
Bruh, what was on BBC1 at the time lmaonazbolNazbol
I think it was Bargain Hunt
That's what you get for blasphemy against John Frum.
you get your news through porn now? what a worldgay_naziGay Nazi
did you know that Sir Prince Philip is a Knight of Australia?
Yes, King Charles and Queen Camilla now!
Apparently Lynton Crosby is too. WtfbrocialismBrocialism
If you arent a noble why would you want a monarchy? Serious question
Read Mouldbug (He is retarded tho)brocialismBrocialism
The legal fiction elements of it are nice. "The Crown" does this, "The Crown" does that, thereby avoiding making any of the annoying decisions that come with being a normal country. Plus when you elect a clown as prime minister he doesn't get to be head of state, only head of government.
(In Canada/Aus/NZ it works better than here, since "The Crown" is represented by some rando civil servant from the country rather than the actual crown. It's basically a republic randomly yoked to another countries monarchy.)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Look at those empty eyes
downwardly-mobile whites fantasizing about driving their gay little tour boats up to their gay little tour towns and audibly muttering "trad mode activated"
>>8642> audibly muttering "trad mode activated"
Me when I cum just to my imgaination.brocialismBrocialism
patchwork is actually kinda sorta interesting, just not in the sense curtis yarvin talks about; he's like a discount hans-hermann hoppe (which is what makes him so retarded)
Reminder that Dutchies still very much support the monarchy and that republicanism is set even further back in the Netherlands than in the UK.stalinStalin
Hopefully the monarch marries a black muslim and then they can have a black muslim monarch
holy geert wilders pilled
This will spark massive fury all over the country, this would never happen. Remember that Dutchies are VERY rasys and invented Apartheid.stalinStalin
The only thing the russians did wrong was not killing the whole family
It HAS to be stockholm syndrome at this point right?!
I mean to be fair, pretty much all parties have suspended their election campaigns, and besides, it would've been a PR nightmare if they still decided to campaign>>8654
Good lord, will anyone refuse to cuck.brocialismBrocialism
in fairness salmond presumably saw him reasonably often as first minister before he retired.
Kek, one thing to suspend campaigning for a little while, but what the fuck is with that first bit lmaonazbolNazbol
Bruh, barely an hour after the announcement and already the Daily Mail are seething about Harry and Meghan lmaohttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9453427/Will-Prince-Philips-death-send-Harry-Meghan.htmlnazbolNazbol
meanwhile Sinn Fein said nothing, lmao
It's all the fags that got 1776 stickers on their trucks that are crying over this ghoul too.
"PRINCE PHILLIP IS DEAD…THE OLD FART NONCE IS DEAD….MUSTA RUN OUTTA ADRENACHROME "eurekaEureka
Why Americans want a monarchy?
Charles who is also like 100 fucking years old and will be dead in like 5 years anywayeurekaEureka
It's a spectacle and people love spectacle. >>8672
Charles is 70 something, no?stalinStalin
Even Sinn fein cucked.brocialismBrocialism
Your king is dead faggots go cry about it dances in the republic he lives
If anyone wants to watch the moment that his dewath was announcedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I3mu-MG_J4nazbolNazbol
WHAT FUCKING MONGS NIP ARE
>>8683>british women can't cook
I mean, have you ever tried british """cuisine"""?
it's not like registering as a sex offender, you don't just fill out one form and then pop it in the letterbox on the way to the shops. they registered months ago and it still wasn't "In time"
keep in mind that even Salmond's Alba party buggered up their electoral commission forms (their logo won't appear on the ballot paper, nor will their slogans.) and he was first minister of Scotland
the electoral commission is a byzantine thing.
Alba registered successfully, NIP had to be absolutely retarded to not get registered
t. has never interacted with the electoral commission
perhaps the only saving grace might be that "sympathies to those of a british identity on our island for whom his death will be felt as a great loss" could potentially imply that irish people are having a great time celebrating this german reptile's overdue descent into hell
but sadly no, the shinners are cucks
is that you, ratboy?
on the one hand i want to defend him and the NIP
on the other hand "Proudfoot" is a very Redwall name so it's not out of the bounds of probability that he is actually literally a roden.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
His accent is defo NE, you can here it in the way he says "voooote"
Prince Philip on Members of Parliament when he discovered Ghana only had just 200 MPs:
“That’s about the right number. We have 650 and most of them are a complete bloody waste of time."
wonder what the idea here is. they're behind in the polls, they really ought to be campaigning as much as they can
unless they want there to be additional pressure on other parties to not campaign in the hopes that it'll hurt them more than it hurts Alba. (for example because those campaigns are disproportionately reliant on actual advertising and have enough members to do doorknocking in preparation for a get-out-the-vote operation, while Alba will probably live and die by word of mouth… and with most telly channels on 24/7 mournovision, listening to some guy explain how Nicola Sturgeon isn't a nationalist at all starts to sound interesting by comparison.)
Eh, to be fair, if they did continue campaigning, it would probably not be a good look for them to the public, thus making them go even further behind in the pollsnazbolNazbol
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The most based Anglo in the known world
What’s he drinking lads?
>BBC1 and 2 showing the same stuff
Bruh, why couldn't they put all the stuff about Phillip on BBC1 and have stuff like MasterChef on BBC2?nazbolNazbol
Brown Ale from the looks of it, maybe a stout (defo not guiness tho).
Cheers, bongs. Here's to the death of your consort.
Are there any betting pools on who is the next royal to die? My bet is on Charles, Elizabeth knows she needs to outlive him or the monarchy is doomed.
Nah, unironically, my money's on Elizabeth, partly because that apparently Phil and Liz did genuinley love each other, with him dead, I wouldn't be surprised if her death will be a result of that griefnazbolNazbol
>Prince Phillip took over the running of many of his uncle, Lord Mountbatten of Burma's charitable and philanthropic organisations mainly targeted at young people and children
Wasn't he literally the guy who was part of like some elite satanic sex cult that was like abducting children from boarding schools in northern ireland or something and then he got FUCKING OWNED by the IRA?eurekaEureka
Yeah they blew up his yacht lmao
these quips are mostly bottom of the barrel "jokes" which are "funny" only when your boss tells them
He also tried to launch a coup against Harold Wilson/
Is that music from the 'End of the World' Album?
"Everywhere at the end of time" and yeseurekaEureka
average ruining all the telly channels for the dead prince fan
average publicly wailing for kim joing il enjoyer
Feel like I’m losing the plot a bit. Where the fuck did the Prince Phillip fan club come from? At least the queen is a little old lady and she’s the queen. Who gives a fuck about Phillip honestly. News presenters doing crocodile tears on TV. It’s deranged
God has picked us to be Banter Island. Prepare brother, for the next century shall be non-stop confusion as to pay for our imperial bloodshed.
You shall be gaslit to love Phillip because God has deemed it; banterouschristian_communismChristian Communism
Why are britbongs so good at the rappin and the hip hoppin? Does it have something to do with there rather unique drum and base MC scene?
I think it's the diversity of accents means you get more interesting intonation and syncopation. I mean the reality is that most African Americans have the same or similar dialect, due to it being a result of ethnic segregation, british black people on the other hand either partially keep the patois of their origins, or adopt and fuse with local accidents: thus leading to more verity.
Take the difference between rappers like Stormzy & Kano from London and a Northern Black rapper like for Bugzy Malone.
V. good points anon, had no considered this, thanks.
Have a big narste on me.
I think this is based. I'm an accelerationist and right reactionary fascism is better than liberal authoritarianisn for the very reason that it scares the ruling elite. I'm starting to understand more and more why the people of Germany kind of went along with Hitler and his party, the social democratic party was the same party that told them to go to war and the same party overlooking massive inflation and not doing shit about it. Seriously fuck civil bullshit, nationalist reactionary tribalism is the way forward. Decoupling and isolationism and self reliance.
>>8746>the social democratic party was the same party that told them to go to war and the same party overlooking massive inflation and not doing shit about it.
Just like the Nazis.syndicalismSyndicalism
>>8747>Saying I understand why Nazis were appealing to people = being exactly like the Nazis 1:1.
Get out of here dogmatist.
Based. It’s Romanov time
What the fuck are you even saying?syndicalismSyndicalism
“Vote SPD, Br'er Voter, vote Zentrum, vote DVNP, and KPD,” said Br'er Bourg. “Only please, Br'er Voter, please don’t throw me to the briar Fash!”
“It’s not going to be much fun voting SPD,” said Br'er Voter, “you’re not scared of that. But you are scared of the briar Fash.”
And with that, Br'er Voter yanked Br'er Bourg off the Tar Liberals, and he flung him -KERPLUNK!- right into the briar Fash.
Well, there was a flutter where Br'er Bourg landed, then “Ooo! Oow! Ouch!” he screeched and he squalled. Then after a while, there was only a weak whisper from Br'er Bourg. Br'er Voter listened.
“I got him! Br'er Bourg is dead!” said Br'er Voter.
But then he heard a scuffling away at the other end of the briar Fash. And low and behold, who does Br'er Voter see scrambling out but Br'er Bourg himself, playing a briar bush whistle stolen from his own workers.
“Born and bred in the briar Fash, that’s me,” laughed Br'er Bourg. “I told you not to throw me there. In all the world, that’s the place I love best!”
With a lippity clip, he hopped away.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
(oh yeah and then like 12 million bears died)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Where'd you find this? Pretty interesting.
I wonder what caused the dip in 2014, and I'd be interested in seeing their current membership numbers since apparently the last couple years has been good for term in terms of growth
Pisses me off that it's considered weird to get riled up about hating the monarchy.
Can't wait for the culture shock when Queenie dies. She's a constant in the life of the vast majority of the country, I imagine it will have quite an impact on the national psyche.
Wikipedia of all places.
Tbh I think it's a case of why bother. Monarchy didnt do austerity, crush the unions, or start iraq.
The fact that hating the monarchy isn't the defacto position of the average brit is a testament to the utter cuckitude of the entire nation.
they hardly do anything, they're more worthy of derision than hatred, more a symbol of bizarre backwardness than pure evil.
if given the choice to banish either the monarchy or the City of London to the Abyssal Zone it would be the City every time.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Yeah, the reason it's weird to passionately hate the monarchy is because its an autistic fixation. Hating some vestigial powerless institution. It would be like being really mad about the fact that we still right laws on parchment.brocialismBrocialism
Workers Party were campaigning in Liverpool tho. Alliance for Unity is weird.
am i a cynic to think they've sent Dodds to make it easier to give her the boot when Labour loses?democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
I'm a F/ACCtionalist. I support everything that accelerates Labour factionalism to its inevitable conclusion: Another fight in the Chequers bar.
I'll go even more cynical, they put Dodds in the cabinet because she's so obviously shit.
As she's was seen as being a concession to the left, her failure can be blamed on them. And thus will justify bringing in Starmer's originally desired shadow chancellor , the horrendously right-wing Rachel ReevesbrocialismBrocialism
Reeves is perfect, nothing will get the hateboner for Labour even harder.
don't remind me she exists i start spitting blood when i remember that stupid "We are not the party of people on benefits. We don’t want to be seen, and we're not, the party to represent those who are out of work, Labour are a party of working people, formed for and by working people."
stupid fucking moron what are the people on benefits except workers who've been failed by economic mismanagement stupid fucking idiot how did politicians detach themselves from reality this badly fuck AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[spoiler]yeah okay kids and the disabled and the old get benefits too, but the archetypal benefits scrounger is on his JSA.[/spoiler]democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8771>yeah okay kids and the disabled and the old get benefits too
Reeves jumping with joy at the revelation she gets to make several more groups live in misery
You know I had to do it to 'em
lmao do I even want to know what the fucking Viper is doing there?
I see nobody in here is talking about vaccine passports and "no jab no job" policies.lenin_capLenin Cap
Sir this is the Yugoslavia general
Leninhat , gimme the low down on the vaccines? Are any of them safe?brocialismBrocialism
They fill your sanguine with bile
And that is a good thing.
Do you believe the European lies about DVTs?
Hnnngh, look at those thighsnazbolNazbol
Not even Sputnik? I thought that was a traditional vaccine?brocialismBrocialism
Leninhatto my lad, riddle me this: why are the Israelis vaccinating their own and not the Palestinians if it’s all a plot?
It's still junk. But that's not the point.
In a year time's you will not able to buy food or have a job without submitting to the regime of forced vaccination and digital surveillance (known as the passport).>>8787
Israel is a testing ground for NATO initiatives. And it's also probably being done to create the same reverse-psychology psyop that happeneed in Britain, where Johnson pretended to be against lockdowns to create a demand for it, even though the contracts had already been signed for the fearmongering adverts weeks before his announcement of the first lockdown.lenin_capLenin Cap
however boring the actual details, leninhat must lead the most exciting life of anyone here.
here i am thinking keir starmer's a twat meanwhile he's battling against a coalition of bill gates, NATO, scheming zionists, practically every government on earth, the bourgeoisie, and 50 pence worth of laminated paper from the NHS saying "i got the jab! :)"democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8789>50 pence worth of laminated paper from the NHS saying "i got the jab! :)"
It's going to be a digital app verified by fingerprint or facial scan.
Remember; you all supported this.lenin_capLenin Cap
Yes our belief in germ theory led to the logical conclusion of vaccine IDs
Most of this general supports lockdowns, compulsory muzzling, antisocial distancing, compulsory monitoring by the bourgeois spy agencies under the guise of a "vax pass". Don't say you weren't warned.lenin_capLenin Cap
I found it funny when rightoids got beaten by the police and I will find it funny the next time it happens. I will always find it funny and I will never apologise.
This is what I mean. You think working class people protesting are "rightoids". You won't be spared the boot on your neck lol.lenin_capLenin Cap
Local rightoids not so big on "Tough On Crime" when declared a criminal shocker
if british people weren't all individualist little runts then lockdown wouldn't be necessary
anti-lockdown types like to cite Sweden with this nice little idea that we'd all just get on as normal. bugger that, the Swedes are good old collectivists, they know that it doesn't matter if the government hasn't legislated lockdown because the collective social shame of knowing you were buggering around outside when you didn't need to be is still powerful enough to keep people acting properly.
so in this revolutionary sense, gentlemen, i support the oppressive lockdown measures. down with those, down with those and up with a new range of socially stifling collectivist social norms.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8796>i support the oppressive lockdown measures
meant to say i oppose. i oppose living in a society where they are necessary.
but the oppression, that, i am all for.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Every worker who loves freedom is a criminal now.lenin_capLenin Cap
freedom yes, but for WHOM to do WHAT?democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
To not live under a fascist 4th industrial (counter)revolution biosecurity regime.lenin_capLenin Cap
ah yes, the freedom to live under a fascist 3rd post-industrial (counter)revolution "anti-terrorist" regime.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
The only conflation is by MI5 agents who portray all workers as thick, and all protesters as "rightists", which scares the "leftists", off.lenin_capLenin Cap
Classic 77th brigade gambit.>you have no freedom already, so just surrender and accept total slavery
The point is not to revert back to the 2019 status quo, but to abolish all restrictions on proletarian freedom.lenin_capLenin Cap
you are posturing again. you have no means or method of doing that, indeed you do not even have a plan. until you have at least one of those things you should stop posturing, it's not a good look.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Ah yes they were all absolutely livid over the policing bill weren't they? Oh no it's just more Brits crying because they only give a shit when something impacts them personally.
My plan is for the British proletariat to overthrow the parasites imposing lockdown. You do not support this, you support the Great Fascist Reset since you benefit from it.lenin_capLenin Cap
that's like saying your plan is to cure world hunger and transform everyone into sexually attractive wolf men. that's not a plan, it's just barely an idea.
(and for the record i want to be a badger)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
The basic plan for a revolution is not hard, what is hard and complicated is fighting off the defeatists and liquidators, the reformists and cowards. What is needed is a vanguard party and an army that can eventually overthrow the state.lenin_capLenin Cap
>>8810>My plan is for the British proletariat to overthrow the parasites imposing lockdown
And how are you going to convince the British proletariat to follow you?nazbolNazbol
Wish I could go to this bizarro Britain you're living in where the population aren't mostly deranged headbangers who were happy to kill tens of thousands of disabled people to save themselves 2p a year and regularly weigh up the pros and cons of surestart and killing a million foreigners.
There's probably better would-be leaders than me.>>8814
Obviously most Britons are currently brainwashed, defeated and enslaved. And they have no political leadership. You can either accept that, and walk straight into the worldwide Auschwitz planned for us under the Great Reset, or try to do something against it.lenin_capLenin Cap
ah yes the daily expose, everyone's favourite newspaper of repute.
Mainstream media is run by spies.lenin_capLenin Cap
you'd think they'd be better at finding things out then
They report what our rulers want. Which is fearmongering over glowvid.lenin_capLenin Cap
<The UVF has ordered the removal of Catholic families from a housing estate in Carrickfergus in what has been termed a "form of 21st century ethnic cleansing".<The terror gang was behind attacks on three homes in the Woodburn estate in which they believed Catholics have been staying. Sources say the attacks were based purely on rumours about the occupants or people linked to them.<Windows at properties on Cherry Walk and Glenfield Walk were smashed late last Wednesday night. The home of a pensioner on Pinewood Avenue, who only moved into the bungalow last month, was also targeted. Some of the occupants are understood to have since fled the area.<The PSNI's Sergeant Cowan said: "Just after 9pm we received a report that the living room window of a property in the Glenfield Walk area had been smashed at 8.20pm.<"At 9.40pm we received two further reports that windows had been smashed at houses in the Cherry Walk and Pinewood Avenue areas. In both cases a man wearing a balaclava was seen running from both addresses."<Security sources told Sunday Life that the UVF was behind the attacks having ordered the removal of all Catholics from loyalist estates in Carrickfergus. Sources say they were ordered purely on the basis of rumours about the occupants or people linked to them.<"It's a form of 21st century ethnic cleansing," said the insider. "The UVF has drawn up a list of people living in Woodburn who they suspect are Catholics, or are living with Catholics."<The attacks are taking place despite the Executive Office spending millions of pounds of public cash in Carrickfergus on trying to convince loyalist gun gangs to abandon criminality through its Tackling Paramilitary Activity programme. A further £10million was committed to the fund last week.<The UVF is heavily involved in the project which pledges to "provide support and legitimate alternatives to all ex-prisoners/former combatants to reintegrate into society".<But the smashing up of homes by the UVF in which it believed Catholics had been staying makes a mockery of its transformation commitment.<Alliance MLA Stewart Dickson condemned the UVF violence, calling it "raw, naked sectarianism".<He said: "I know the vast majority of people in Carrickfergus will be horrified at these brutal attacks on innocent families.<"There is no place for this behaviour - it is dangerous and wrong. Clearly, the attempts to wean these sectarian gangs away from their activities by handing out government financial inducements is now a failed policy.<"The only reward for this behaviour must be a stiff jail sentence.<"I welcome the work of the Paramilitary Crime Taskforce in the area and look forward to their continued success in rooting out these thugs.<"Meanwhile, my sympathy goes to those families affected. I know there will be many decent people working on the ground in these areas from churches and other agencies trying to provide assurance and working to help families, and I pledge my support to them."<Loyalists rioted on the North Road in Carrickfergus for two nights last week, throwing dozens of petrol bombs at police lines. The violence was in response to what they claimed is frustration over the Irish Sea customs border and a lack of prosecutions connected to the funeral of IRA leader Bobby Storey.<The attacks on the PSNI were encouraged by both the South East Antrim UDA and UVF who warned teens involved not to riot in loyalist estates, and to instead take the trouble onto the North Road which is on the edge of the Castlemara and Sunnylands areas.https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/uvf-orders-removal-of-catholic-families-from-carrickfergus-housing-estate-in-21st-century-form-of-ethnic-cleansing-40297946.html
Fun fact: those that oppose lockdown the most are the petit-bouj.
Fun fact: it's the proletariat who rely on selling their labour to live like me who oppose lockdown the most.
Fun fact: the billionaires have gotten richer from lockdown.lenin_capLenin Cap
Nazis are the ones imposing lockdowns.lenin_capLenin Cap
Out of interest Leninhat, thoughts on the Spanish Flu?
Yeah and still, you are being the agent of the petit-bourgeois. Read or watch any stuff about anti-lockdowners, 90% of them are Small business owners hoemad that they can sell their halloween costumes for dogs.
Lockdowns have been imposed at the behest of the bourgeoisie, Gates, the WEF. Communists did not impose them, because communists have no power in Britain.
Moreover, there is no virus. It is a rebranded flu wave that has been utilised to implement vaccine passes (digital ID) using blockchain to ensure total control over the proletariat. This was planned for years.https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/health/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf
The nazi state has been waging psychological warfare against us for a year. Clearly many on here are either bourgeois agents or have crumbeed. But many of us have not.lenin_capLenin Cap
Millions of proles have been protesting across Europe the past few months against it. Not the petit bourg,lenin_capLenin Cap
China is ruled by billionaire capitalists and is working with the WEF.lenin_capLenin Cap
I hope they have a particularly scathing and witty placard to put the bourgs back in their place
China isn't AES. Any country that goes along with the Gates agenda must be overthrown.lenin_capLenin Cap
Nah it's the petit-bouj.
Hot take, we should've done what the DPRK did as to how they handled Covid (I.E have everyone wear a fucking mask for one thing)nazbolNazbol
Cringe take. The reason the DPRK could be so effective is because none of its citizens live abroad or regularly travel in and out of the country. Not to mention the fact the have very few external supply chains
You fucking moronbrocialismBrocialism
Hey BritAnons, I heard from Krautstate Media that the situation over here is quite good and you are slowly starting to open up again. That true? Why are in Germany so fucked while you can have "fun" again?
We get outside pubs from tomorrow morning. Everything open from middle of next month. So yeah it is going pretty well.brocialismBrocialism
Wait, what? I missed this. Do we need the vaccine for this shit?
Then mabye we should implement Anglp Juche then
Man how did Bozo manage this one? So I take it the Majority got vaccinated?
I just want to go out again with my mates and do something
Have you met English people?brocialismBrocialism
nah Pub gardens open from tomorrow , no vaccine required.>>8844
Yeah vaccination is around 50% and basically everyone who is in any danger already has it. And I belive he managed it by not being part of the European health scheme. Which requires you to get central Eu approval for all vaccines. (Slower than just getting it done in UK) and I belive the EU negotiate for one central contract rather than national ones, so they are way less flexible in ordering vaccines. Also we litteraly funded and invented our own vaccine so we kinda got first dibs.
Sorry lad wish you could be herebrocialismBrocialism
>>8846>Sorry lad wish you could be here
Idk. Depends on what the Left is doing and if the Future looks bleak for Communists in Britain
Oh no, the politics is fucked. Probably worse (In terms of being futher from revolution) than anywhere else on earth. But the Pubs are openbrocialismBrocialism
>>8848>Probably worse (In terms of being futher from revolution) than anywhere else on earth
This is a strong statement. Why you guys and not the Burgers or us Krauts?>But the Pubs are open
Good for you
>>8849>This is a strong statement. Why you guys and not the Burgers or us Krauts?
Burgers have a much more divided and unstable society. As well as much larger lumpinised populations. Futher they had massive historic 3 month long riots about racial justice last year. Massive potential.
In terms of Krauts, im not as famaliar. But I would say for one you have PR, which means elections are alot more volatile. Giving the potential for the rise of more radical elements.But yeah , you guys give us a run for our money.brocialismBrocialism
>>8850>But I would say for one you have PR, which means elections are alot more volatile. Giving the potential for the rise of more radical elements.
Not that anon but i have heard this my whole life and have yet to see it happen.
The workers display no end of independent revolutionary activity which you do not notice.lenin_capLenin Cap
No it isn't. Lockdown has not ended, and they will force vaccinations as a condition of employment very soon, probably with the fabricated "third wave" come October/November.lenin_capLenin Cap
Of course, the stupid enslaved masses will rush to download the app, since they view freedom as something granted and conditional as their rulers have told them. Most fools want nothing more than to go back to a pub.lenin_capLenin Cap
See last Italian election. Ended with a coalition of radical populists. I could do hundreds of examples. See Syriza in greece.brocialismBrocialism
I literally mean in DE. Despite having PR it's been a shithole of political stagnation/neoliberalism since any of us have been alive.
Not liking PR is the ultimate labour cuck position.
>everything will be fine because labour will win a landslide and she total control and we can’t do anything else because otherwise this can’t happen.
>just trust the plan, once starmer loses, and then the guy after him who is also a cuck loses, we might get possibly another shot at a Corbyn type figure, who just might not be a wet blanket
Fuck off with this shit. Labour cucks are so annoying. I can see why you wouldn’t want it to be a priority in momentum or whatever alongside those other policies, but it’s objectively better for radical parties
Smashing the UK to pieces is the chad position
>>8858>Tfw no electoral reform enacted in 1922 by lib-lab for rural AV and urban STV
Literally our country would be so much better if this had happened.
This is not at all a satisfactory answer. what evidence do you have to suggest they are only pretending to be anti lockdown? You realise the majority of the population was pro lockdown long before anything kicked off big styley. You say Israel is a testing ground, but why would they vaccinate their population if the vaccines were dodgy? Doesn't make any sense. >>8792
compulsory spying has been going on a long, long time. >>8821
who ready for troubles 2, fortnight era boogaloo>>8859
its the most proportional form of representation
the most radical party it would advantage is the greens tbh.
the problem is that even with a fair electoral system you still need competent socialists, and leftists love to fuck themselves over. even if they do enter parliament they will inevitably split because one gang wants to do nothing but LARP (let's put down a bill to abolish capitalism, tee-hee!) and the other one wants to do nothing but policy wonkery. (ah but you see it's a socialist
plan for means testing…), or indeed just because of stupid personality politics.
this tendency is found even in "actually social democratic" parties, let alone ones actually committed to the abolition of capitalism.
ultimately the main advantage is that socialists will find it easier form a grouping across a wider area. (i.e. the SSP could campaign all across Glasgow in 1999, rather than trying to get people to campaign outside their own constituencies)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8863>Not trying to make fun of you
that just inevitably happens to him because he is a joke
Nope, tables are fully booked at my local though kinda cringe I wanted a pint after work
Feeling bad for the people at work who have to put up with a line full of nutters who queued up at 7am to get into primark asap.
Yea, it's a piss take. I'm thinking about getting a small bottle of vodka and downing it at the cafe in order to get at least of of the feeling at this point.
Would you like to see a £190million Royal Yacht built as a memorial to Prince Philip…?https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1381259805436870656
fully expect people will hate me for this but tbh I think Blair not replacing the old royal yacht (and Major making it an election issue) was incredibly wankerish posturing.
(though building a yacht as a memorial to a dead prince would also be very naff.)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
When do I get my turn to use it?
about 40-50 years after commissioning (probably less, everything new is always planned obsolescence crap) you'll be able to go on it in Edinburgh for about £30
(it won't go anywhere though. well, not unless something breaks.)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Whenever you want if you're a member of the elite
business idea: celebrate the anniversary of the Suez Crisis of 1956-7 by using HMY Prince Philip to block the Suez Canal.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
the keir starmer nando's incident (do not google)
Who's ready for another Labour party legal suit against /leftypol/?
So Alba have just released some thinly veiled anti trans equalities policy. It’s the only fucking actual policy beyond independence I’ve seen out of them so it’s literally just SNP with added culture wars. Unless they are gonna pull some proper socialist policies out the bag they can suck me off
Honestly, probably the SNP knew they were losing culture wars votes so this is all a ruse between them. Now you can vote for woke nationalism or terf nationalism. Kek. Cunts,
Is Uk the most trans focused political polity. I don't know of anywhere else where this is such a big issuebrocialismBrocialism
>>8880>Now you can vote for woke nationalism or terf nationalism.
tbh i blame the SNP for all this
How many fucking years does it take to reform the GRA? I'm sure it didn't take an entire sitting of parliament to introduce it in 2004.
Hate hate HATE seeing socially liberal people mostly middle class wankers of the kind who trashed Scottish Labour but still
rally around the SNP for their lukewarm commitment to GRA reform (alienating TERFs) when even the Tories had GRA reform in their 2016 manifesto. Yet The SNP is supposed to get credit for bringing it forward in the most incompetent way possible, cautiously dragging it out for 5 fucking years and giving opposition time to mobilize.
Fucking clown country. I remain minded to vote Alba due to the fact everyone else hates them, and I hate everyone else.
>>8884>tbh i blame the SNP for all this
SNP are beginning to sound like the boogeyman on /leftybritpol/
We're all each others boogeyman
They're only boogymen to the idiots who think they're Nazis or ethnonationalists, The reality is far more boring but equally deserving of loathing: They're an incompetent centrist government stuffed to the gizzard with sex pests and careerists while enthusiastically following an Atlanticist foreign policy and advocating for regime change, made worse by the fact they used to be a moderately competent centre-left government that may or may not have been lead by a sex pest while unenthusiastically saying they'd join NATO but advocating against foreign wars.
Oh and there's an election on, which they're going to win, but they don't deserve to. That's the other important bit.
Labour stopped being socialist in the 90s, any destruction of the conntrolling neolibs wing is a good thing - the neolibs won't be able to join another party, the actual socialists will
It’s an mi5 plot and nobody can convince me otherwise
there is a danger (although it's much bigger under FPTP) that the destruction of the Labour party only leads to something worse.
imagine if we were so unfortunate as to live in Canada, with a choice between Conservatives and Liberals only, the party that's sort-of-vaugely-like-labour running a weird third except for when it breaks your heart by becoming the official opposition but then dropping back to third instead of becoming the government or at least staying second, and actual socialists nowhere to be found.
i'm not saying you're wrong, given you're talking in the context of getting PR, but this is playing on my mind. the conditions that built Labour are gone, that puts the party in a very dangerous place because you could never re-assemble something like it after it was destroyed. yet the present leadership are committed to the course of action that is most likely to destroy the party.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
>>8891>that puts the party in a very dangerous place because you could never re-assemble something like it after it was destroyed. yet the present leadership are committed to the course of action that is most likely to destroy the party.
It's infested with retarded Blairites that do nothing for strategy but listen to wisened sage glowniggers from outside the party, I'm convinced that's where they get their orders from.
>>8884>I will vote Alba because fuck everything
It’s a Chad position but also fuck Alba to. I had slim hopes they might be outlefting the SNP but it seems maybe not. I suppose they might be leaving in hand some big reveal just a few weeks before the election which means people will remember it more and there will be less scrutiny.
My bet would be that they'll put out a manifesto which will be left of the SNP in broad strokes but thin on actual policy. Given their target audience I suspect it will have more "an independent Scotland will need an independent Currency and an independent foreign policy" and less "Here is our fully costed plan for marginally improving schools in these three deprived areas."
Hopefully it'll be something with more substance which gives a clearer idea of where they are, but today isn't a day for optimism.
The funniest outcome would be if someone in the SNP leaked the SNP's concrete policy plans to Alba, allowing Alba to slip them into their manifesto (occasionally de-Blairing them) and then publish it a day before the SNP's comes out, but I'd put a 0% chance on that happening. The SNP's biggest items so far are things they announced in the last budget then announced again because they know the electorate are stupid enough to fall for it, and if anyone leaks they'd probably leak to Wings Over Scotland who would publish rather than quietly sharing.
All this talk is giving me invisible committee feels. Fuck all this party political bollocks and just like destroy the Edinburgh to Glasgow train line or some shit
I mean, it got flooded and was out of action for two entire months. Scotland, brought to its knees by a fucking canal. Easy pickings for when the most ramshackle of anarchist gang with bloodlust
Not sure why I should care about alienating TERF's tbh, I mean, aren't they the poeople that were less supportive of independence when theidea of an independent Scotland having trans rights popped into their headsnazbolNazbol
It's more that a lot of people see that TERFs don't like the SNP and assume that the SNP must therefore be good, or at least be doing something right*, which is the sort of heuristic I could definitely see myself using if I wasn't really paying attention. The problem is that there wouldn't be half as many TERFs in Scotland if GRA reform had passed in 2017-18 and never been heard about again. By drawing it out (because they're politically cautious Blairites) the SNP has multiplied the number of TERFs in the country by god knows how many because they can keep appealing to all the horrible things that might
happen in reform passes. Once reform passes and nothing happens they'll have to go back to reading Irishmen having mental breakdowns over Canadians, which is far less useful for getting Scottish recruits.
*In a very token way they "are", in that they've put forward GRA reform. But every party had it in their manifesto, so instead of giving the SNP cheap "they're pro-trans rights!" credit for having it in their platform they should be getting torn apart for fucking up the delivery so badly.
They deserve it.syndicalismSyndicalism
Lads, boys, we live in the most cucked country on earth.
A moments silence for all of us in order. We are a deeply oppressed people.
Luv insane Gammons and retard tory's on twitter saying they hope "That Harry's family takes his damn phone off of him so Markle cant call him every 5 minutes to remind him whos boss so he can be deprogrammed and do what needs to be done"
Like "Marrying a black women" to these people = In a cult. (Oh the irony of the people saying this"eurekaEureka
genuinely hate how it's always racism driving this nonsense and not anti-americanism
like okay some people are the kind of sad-act boomers who actually care about the monarchy, can they not at least do it properly and be bigoted against the nouveau-riche from a nation of boorish yanks rather than being racist in the most american way possible?
hey i may be fat and cowardly but… what was the third thing you said?democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Alba have now called the cops over some Twitter comments.
That’s a strong no from me. Fucking “anti woke” people always have the thinnest fucking skins. Also the British combo of mumsnet Karen’s and autismo neck beards that make up the dedicated anti trans community is so fucking weird
lol Galloway does the same shit. Welcome to Melt Island.
There's a 3rd side to this coalition. I have a m8 whose mum was an ex-hippie. Hasn't been involved in any politics in like 30 years. (Into spirituality and all that shit). Now she spends her time going to terf meetings and doing letter writting campaigns and shit. Its actually mad. I don't know how this could be the thing that activates you.brocialismBrocialism
Swear nobody under 30 would take the internet seriously like this. Old people think Twitter is real life.
Feminism has no dragons left to slay, so they've made one out of straw.
Nah , its just normies as a whole.Sure young people can do some online irony but normies still take it very seriously. See the labour students lot reporting a bit of light critique online as ""assault"" and ""violence""brocialismBrocialism
When was this? Was it under Blairites or Corbynites?
Corbyn, just check out any of the people in leadership positions. Half their timeline will be complaining about them receiving online "abuse" or sending "solidarity" for someone else receiving online abuse.brocialismBrocialism
This is not correct. >>8913
Probably right. Normies should be forced into a meme re education camp where they learn to stop with the crocodile tears and grow a pair
>>8908>Fucking “anti woke” people always have the thinnest fucking skins
In fairness the woke people here are also being cunts. (but because this is idpol, everyone naturally takes one another in bad faith.)
In a normal society:>These charities are trying to get the age of consent lowered to 10!
No we aren't>Yes you are, you've signed up to this document that says it!
We didn't share that interpretation (and frankly definitely didn't actually read it, nobody has the fucking time to read 200 pages of filler about discrimination being bad.) but we'll ask to have them re-word that for clarity>Okay bye
In Scotland:>These charities are trying to get the age of consent lowered to 10!
No we aren't you homophobe! This is a common trope used by blah blah blah fascism>You fucking nonces! It's right here in the document that YOU signed! And YOUR organization has had a paedo problem in the past!
This is actual literal textbook right-wing fascism with no evidence base whatsoever! I'm going to punch you!>You're reported to the police!
(Everyone just keeps going on like this, me, above it all, secretly hopes that Boris Johnson's letters of last resort contain an instruction to nuke Scotland.)>>8911
tbh I'm surprised you run with the interpretation that they're boomers who don't understand the internet rather than cynics trying to generate a chilling effect on the whole issue so that people will shut up.
(I may be giving Alba too much credit, but that's how I would do it.)
Tbh I’ve not actually looked at the content I just saw “called the cops over Twitter” and began harbour rage
It's basically bullshit caused by everyone acting in bad faith. I find myself more unsympathetic to the SNP/Green crowd because they could easily have gone for this in a much more reasonable way, but instead they've become hysterical. Instead of just saying "If you'd show a little good faith…" they immediately assume that they're dealing with something made up whole-cloth and react accordingly. They are desperate for Alba to be a party of fascists, rather than a party of the vengeful, the angry, the disappointed and the confused.
Because I remain the lord advocate for chaos, I hope some mid-ranking SNP/Greens apparatchik winds up in court for their tweets during the campaign. Especially if they wind up being punished because of SNP legislation.
(I don't think anyone should be jailed, but a fine and some bad headlines would be very funny.)I don't believe that there should be real life consequences for tweets, but I also don't believe there are any unacceptable tactics. Just unacceptable targets… My only hesitation would be that it would let middle class wankers posture as though they were genuinely oppressed…
Of course the grifter didn't answer my fucking question
If it's anything like the other questions it was probably insufferably autistic
are you the accountant guydemocratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Nah I'm not, but the fact he didn't answer the accountants question means they're probably doing a BLM with the donations.
Can't wait for the Guido article about Proudfoot buying a £500k house in Shropshire.
do you think he'd give me £6.40 for a freddo if i sent him a funny e-maildemocratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Oh hey, it's the woman from that Red World mod for HoI IV lmaonazbolNazbol
So many pub fight videos lmao you piggy English
Scottish people literally don’t fight at the pub and when we do it’s to defend a woman’s honour
no, you fight because you're a drunk idiot
We fight for our right to party
These kinds of comments, this why we are leaving
Surprising nobody, neither Alba nor Galloway are invited to the NUS election debate
Which is sort of the reason I want them to get in. They're the sort of group that piss off the careerist wankers who regularly commandeer the NUS as the first stop on their stratospheric rise to a cabinet post. You just know if they had been invited one or two of them would've thrown a strop for the Twitter gallery.
News at 10: SCots leave the union after to much banter.
Been around for how long and achieved what?
Since 2010, I imagine about as much as any other left wing org. They have the RMT behind them, just fuck voting for Communist formations, while Soc-Dems and Trots have failed, Stalinists have just shat the bed for decades.
>>8932>b-but muh women honour!>i drink and start bar fights because i'm a feminist!>i will protect my pure princess!
I'm not a fucking brit, it's just that you're saying extremely stupid shit.
>>8941>im not a brit
ah I see my mistake this is why you don't understand bants. What are you a kraut or a burger? One of the two. Equally worthless. >>8940
I wasn't suggesting voting for a different communist thing. I'm starting my own invisible comittee this election. Its just me and the Edinburgh to Glasgow line with a score to settle. Every single one of you fucks can take the long train through east calder for two months i don't give a fuck any more
>>8942>sheepfucker talking about worthless
Keep licking EU boots, maybe when your impotent independence takes off they will give you some pity euros to get back at the brits
So you are a burger then? Be gone bitch don't make me break your arm and then send you packing home where you will have to pay out of your own pocket for the fact i broke your arm bitch, bitch
I liked the prince more since he died. funny fucker and autistic enough to decide to re-design his landy (only autists own land rovers, it is known). Sounds like if he wasn't a royal we could have been friends.>>8942
Don't think scot intellectuals would clammer to suck your did like with Coupat and co, alas.>>8943
leave yankee. shoo.
For starters, it's sheepshagger, secondly that's the welsh you dumb hick.
In Medieval times contrary to the commonly spread view that justice has become more civil and less bloodthirsty overtime most evidence in the form of the times equivalent of books of law and personal accounts even doing something like keeping someone under house arrest for more then a few months to a year was considered horrifically cruel and inhumane and execution or exile was only really employed when someone was a straight up schizo off their meds killing people or raping them or whatever.
Then Henry the Vlll implemented mercantilism by enclosing common land and selling it to private land-holders.
Because the now landless and basically enslaved to their new "bosses" peasantry was obviously upset at this and began rebelling Henry drafted a fuckton of new laws that handed out death or transportation willy nilly for "crimes against private property".
Overtime they stopped executing basically everyone and switched to deporting them to Australia. But after 80 years of that the class makeup of Australia had begun to resemble something like.
>5% Free british anglos.
>5% Indigenous peoples living innabush.
>90% Poor Anglos, Irish, Scots, Welsh etc who were basically slaves.
And eventually the Brits began to realise that when your slave population begins to reach >90% of the total population something that rhymes with Haitian Revolution may start to happen so opted to just reform it into "Ok so you get your own parliament and your own PM you can voot for but we get to keep owning all the land and natural resources ok bye!"zapatistaZapatista
at least have the decency to wipe off the sheeps shit off your cripple dick, faggot
Again. That is Wales you literal mongoloid.4th_international4th International
Don't have the decency to mop the aisle though do you sharter?
again, get that shit off your fag dick, sheepfucker
or impress some women by getting your retarded face punched in while drunk you dumb bitch nigger
Lockdown's only been over for a day and already I've had my ban from the Durham University Linguistics society reinstated for pouring a pint of Somersby over the head of the chair during an argument about whether or not the International Phonetic Alphabet is crap. (It is.)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Durham's full of inbred, upper class Oxbridge rejects. You done well.
Dont they just get stabbed up? I went to Sunderland which it is part of it is the worst place i ever been in the UK.
idk never been, Sunderland does seem like a post industrial shithole though.
I was just talking about the uni. Heard that the public school lads there have competitions of "who can shag the poorest girl" or something like that.
>>8958>Heard that the public school lads there have competitions of "who can shag the poorest girl" or something like that.
I like how this probably translates in posho brain to "who can shag the biggest minger" and all these retards are competing to shag some munter.
Yes, anglos long ago stopped women kneading bread together while singing drinking songs.
going off the deep end on british pedo elites lads… see you in a few days, I've only been at it an hour or 2. We gonna need a whole lot of skitzo pills where im going
Here is a taste anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting_House
>Broadcasting House is the headquarters of the BBC, in Portland Place and Langham Place, London. The first radio broadcast from the building was made on 15 March 1932, and the building was officially opened two months later, on 15 May.
>The building showcases works of art, most prominently the statues of Prospero and Ariel (from Shakespeare's The Tempest) by Eric Gill. Their choice was fitting since Prospero was a magician and scholar, and Ariel a spirit of the air, in which radio waves travel.
>His personal diaries reveal that his religious beliefs did not limit his sexual activity, which included several extramarital affairs, incestuous sexual abuse of his two eldest teenage daughters, incestuous relationships with his sisters, and sexual acts on his dog
So, on the front of the BBC, there is a statue of a naked 13 year old boy, carved by a pedo.
Who else do we know that was a pedo associated with the BBC…………………………………. hint there is fucking loads of them and one in particular
This fella eatinbrocialismBrocialism
Duuude this guy lived to 82 , imma get a mcdoublebrocialismBrocialism
dangerously powerful nonce energiesdemocratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
I see he's rocking the 'establishment nonce' aesthetic
<Commons to vote on declaration of genocide in Xinjiang provincehttps://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/mqugo5/commons_to_vote_on_declaration_of_genocide_in/
Found this very deranged reddit thread as I was checking the news before bed, I read it so now you have to.
Are there any MPs who are tankie enough to vote against it?
I'm assuming not
Are you joking? How is he going to fuck anything?!
nevertheless he persisteddemocratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
I'm moving to England soon, and want to learn more of its history. As Burgerland history classes don't focus much on England beyond, "monarchy bad no tax please". What books should I read to learn about English history /leftybritpol/?
Yeadh, sgrios iad sinn.I'm in love that lady with whom the clip starts, btw – Tha mi ann an gaol leis a ’bhoireannach sin leis a bheil an clip a’ tòiseachadh.
People out here literally buying word for word red scare propaganda.brocialismBrocialism
Her bill is based tbh. Round up the pimps, most of them tend to be former pigs anyways.
The video was very funny. About halfway through the "pro sex work" activist. she admits she hates the job, has a pimp and has been abused multiple times while working.brocialismBrocialism
What's the bill about?
>>8986>LOCAL ECONOMY>>We pledge to use the principles of Community Wealth Building (commonly known as the Preston Model) to build a prosperous local economy and foster high-quality jobs.
Preston Model is based anon what's ur problem.
Basically introducing the nordic model: criminalising the purchase of sex.
This shit sucks , its not even radical, could be a labour 2024 manifestobrocialismBrocialism
Also so much democracy wanking. GUESS WHAT , NO ONE WANTS OR CARES ABOUT LOCAL/WORKPLACE DEMOCRACY. JUST GIVE US THE CASH AND FUCK OFF.brocialismBrocialism
This, who wants to be forced to be a manager and shit? Just pay and let me go home.
ikr it's like they're pretending to be a serious party. ffs if they replaced the whippet with a hammer and sickle they wouldn't loose any voters
Sounds like a more PR friendly way of saying the British approach to homelessness is being expanded.
Lmao all these lozers fucking tryna play politics cause they got like 500 twitter likes. Atleast be ambitious with your meme party, fuck me already triangulatingbrocialismBrocialism
Genuine question - if you want "co-operatives, locally-owned businesses, social enterprises, and community-owned organisations" to work together, how can you do this without central power?
Surely the organisation of these groups "coming together" needs to be central.
nah m8 you can just have autonomous competing factions of centralised autonomous organisations. At no point would then inevitably result in there being a monopolistic single group.
This sort of shit exposed these types as liberals and anti-marxists.brocialismBrocialism
who would've thought the electoralist political party making a pitch to replace the Labour party in the north might not be the CPGB-ML
Nah its just that the assumption that the solution to everything is autonomous democratic cells is retarded, And exposes that you have an inherently anti-Marxist belief.brocialismBrocialism
aren't you like the only guy in this thread who thinks we should be members of the labour party
To be fair you are a proud Labour simp.
Oh my bad you are responding to those accusations already lmao
>Churchill wanted the USSR to join NATO and tried to negotiate detente in the 1950s
what the fuck kind of radcen was this man?
New Zealand are banning the sale of cigs to anyone born after 2004. Just a reminder for all you who said I was 'mad' to say there was a facist assault on smokers rights.brocialismBrocialism
If someone proposes something like this, best to belive them. How can you guys defend this shit. Makes me sickbrocialismBrocialism
you'll feel better if you stop smoking :)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Honestly ever since I argued this shit on here my smocking has like doubled. Your guys insolence makes me so mad. Never has anyone in the real world ever opposed me when I say we should be able to smoke in pubs. Bunch of online masked up facists.brocialismBrocialism
Do any zoomers even smoke anyway? I thought they all just skipped the smoking stage and went straight to the vape shit
Vapes are disgusting, and yes we smokebrocialismBrocialism
Lmao hope Kier gets smashed at the locals and the bi-election. So we can get a propper labour leaderbrocialismBrocialism
>>9012>Vapes are disgusting
and smoking isn't?
I cannot wait for Yvette Cooper to lead the party to greatness once more.
Genuinely, who is there for a 'proper labour leader'? Can't think of a single name tbh
Who are:>Yvette Cooper>Wes Streeting>Stella Creasy>Angela Eagle
Just off the top of my head I can think of four proper candidates, and three quarters of them are from one of the most oppressed minorities: white women.
>>9018>trust the plan
Pic related it's the plan to make the UK socialist make Labour socialist
make over 20% of Labour socialist.
That pic is a masterpiece. Perfectly encapsulates the British left.
>>9021>Less popular than Corbyn's apocalypse election, with Brexit, not even being an issue
Can't wait for the SA COVID to take hold and make youth unemployment Spain tier. Then we're in the Cool Zone.>>9023
Free and independent, edited collaboratively with GCHQ.
So I guess The Guardian isn't taking part in the "New Cold War," huh?
based and dearypilled
What's the significance of this Greensill stuff?
Like obviouly it's bad for lobbying to not be through official channels, but how is this going to have any momentum behind it when Hancock supposedly recorded his attending of the meeting anyway?
Nothing, it's a dead cat.
Vaccine bounce for the Tories, Lib Dems, Greens, SNP, NIP and REF. Starmer will start making ground soon.
Ahh I see Labour HQ posts on this board
Just smoked another in ur honour anonbrocialismBrocialism
he's got my votedemocratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
This is the 2021 equivalent of Gorbachev doing the Pizza Hut advert
nah i am taller and my favourite game is Stuart Little 2 on playstation (but football is a good second choice if it's on playstation)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Best bit of bant posted on this thread
Are there any British far-left orgs that are actually worth joining or should I just kill myself now?
Best bet is going to protests and trying to escalate them. Students and anti-police protesters seem to be the most aggressive.
Acorn. (or living rent if you are based scot and not an english pig)
The real glow are people who tell the cucked british left not to get out and break shit
>>9044>The real glowie was me all along
Appreciated glowie. :)
telling people who wouldn't otherwise break shit to break random shit as though it'll achieve anything is glowing tbh
(telling them to engage in meaningless property damage because it's cool is fine though.)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
Over ten thousand people marched for the NHS a few years ago and not one media establishment mentioned it, they even went past BBC HQ. A thousand people gave a few cops a kicking a month ago and it was in every paper for days.
I think there's been a doctrine shift and people are yet to catch up to how the police operate nowadays. I used to see constant evidence of police instigating violence at protests to break them up around 2008, but I actually see less as time goes on and the internet gets bigger. Nowadays they seem content to let the protest tire itself out. This deliberate shift imo most likely occurred around the time kettling became popular.
I think the police wouldn't be able to handle violent unrest nowadays, as we saw with the London riots and even a bit with BLM recently. This shift towards kettling and away from instigation ties in with this.>>9049
I won't rest until even GCHQ has smashed windows.
t. tony blair while gathering support for the iraq war
New thread: >>173342
in my role as permanent secretary i can inform you that the manifesto commitment to ensure that "GCHQ has smashed windows" can be delivered immediately, provided you are willing to inform your party conference that you were using those words rather more laterally than the expected. [spoiler]that is to say, to refer to the fact the Windows operating system has more back doors than one of those old trains where every compartment got a door.[/spoiler]>>9051
Tony Blair achieved more for evil through action than any good person will ever achieve through inaction.
(Unless someone invents a time machine and then ties Tony Blair to a trolley line, then relies on good people not
pulling the lever to redirect it in the interest of altruism)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
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