No.30208
Not really a crackdown but they are getting more retarded every day on their own.
What's really annoying is they ruined westoid posting.
No.30209
Reactionaries digging their own grave
like clockwork
No.30210
Oh but you know what is "l'esprit de l'escalier" or "der Treppenwitz". It's firstoids ruining firstoid funposting.
Useless fucking eaters
No.30224
>>30207> "firstoid"Does anyone actually use that word? Nearest thing I saw was "westoid", and at nauseum at that
No.30265
Kill firsties
Kill them, every man, woman and child
No.30266
Sorry just had a heated gamer moment
No.30278
>>30207having a self-employed maid isn't bourgeois. Having a petty-bourgeois landscaper mow your lawn isnt bourgeois.
No.30279
>>30207>the proletariatThis is an abstract idea and doesnt mean anything. WHICH proletariat? WHERE?
>sometimes not even proletariat but ethnicities or countriesThe national question takes equal precedence with the class struggle, this is basic marxism leninism 101
No.30280
>>30279>This is an abstract idea and doesnt mean anything. WHICH proletariat? WHERE?The entire of class wage-working people. The international proletariat.
No.30283
>>30280This is basically 19th century thinking, you have not updated your marxism beyond that, you seem illiterate regarding the national question and then you have the gall to use that image in your OP. Lol
No.30288
>>30207>In accordance with this, the moderation team needs to crack down on these groups, not least because they have historically been a wrecker force to the movement and most likely to pull people into fascistic currents.This. Third-worldists are fucking cancer. I've always thought that it's always quite
interesting that they always show up when the economy starts turning and people start talking about socialism. It's been such a blatant Glow-op ever since the MIM days.
No.30291
>>30283>you seem illiterate regarding the national questionYou are illiterate. Use commas correctly, retard.
No.30292
>>30283>the national questionThe answer to national question is that its of secondary importance to class struggle, what else do you want?
No.30351
>>30292That's trotskyite retardation
No.30354
>>30208if you just hit em with ole "post wall socket" they get real quit. I would go as far to say alotta of these posts are just americans venting abt having to interact with their countrymen cuz that literally been me before.
>>30351If trotskyite retardation is when you don't drop class struggle to collaborate with the soon to be comprador national boug than I guess I have Trisomy 21.
>nswer to national question is that its of secondary importance to class strugglecongrats on abandoning the socialist project anon
tbh most of the "le firstoid is bad" posting could just be counteracted with pointing to out that an absurd amount of MTW theorists live in Scandivania or the just one of the many random qoutes from non-western MLs saying shit like:
>Among the whites in the United States it is only the reactionary ruling circles whooppress the black people. They can in no way represent the workers, farmers,
revolutionary intellectuals and other enlightened persons who comprise the
overwhelming majority of the white people.
No.30355
>>30354I didn't mean to imply that I don't engage in westoid posting myself
at all
No.30370
>TWist posters immediately show up and prove OP right with bait replies
Post wall socket, nerds
No.30381
Quality Control? No!
Cracker Control? Yes!
No.30439
>>30207wasting your time OP, the mods here semi officially endorsed the line you're complaining about months ago.
No.30445
>>30439Are you kidding? They let idpol baiters run rampant.
No.30448
>>30351<The answer to national question is that its of secondary importance to class struggleThis is in fact trotskyism, as it is imperialist bourgeois ideology which presents a general truism of Marxism as the answer to a genuine question, thereby discarding the question completely. These snake imperialists thereby present themselves as radical and scientific, but are in fact counter-revolutionary and utopian.
The dialectical materialist has long understood that the answer to the national question is integral to the class struggle.
No.30449
>>30448>platitudes disguised as scienceok poster
No.30450
>>30355yeah i think we all do and making fun of the capitalist west is basically impossible not to do but wall should all avoid the boof ass MTW read settlers ass shit as the ahistorical idpol it is
No.30457
>>30449None of those are platitudes. That is a frank analysis of the material phenomena of bourgeois ideology which has manifested itself in this thread
No.30460
>>30457>word saladWe need to stop telling edgy teenagers to read DiaMat
No.30467
>>30207These people are just a mutation of 2010s SJW radlib types.
>I am [X demographic] and I must masochistically check my privilege and ritually grovel for forgiveness from a idealized and infantilized caricature of [Y marginalized group]has mutated into
>I am a settler colonist and I must masochistically wring my hands about how I must be nuked by the ghost of Dessalines for being a KKKrackerNone of these people actually give a fuck about building socialism or helping marginalized groups, it's just the same old game of sadomasochistic PMC LARPers trying to hold everyone around them hostage to their own narcissistic self-hatred.
No.30471
>>30460>simple sentence = word saladilliterate, literally
No.30478
>>30471No, it's word salad. It's just a bunch of buzzwords taken from dialectical materialism stitched together into a hollow platitude that resembles a coherent statement, but in reality, it's hollow.
You haven't analyzed anything, nor have your compatriots on this site generally. You've just hurled empty invective, called it "analysis," and then expect others to give you validation for saying the right things. You have the mentality of an adolescent.
A great example of this is your use of the term "Trotskyism." Have you demonstrated any necessary connection with Trotskyism as a set of positions and arguments? Have you provided evidence or logical reasoning? No, you've simply made a series of assertions, and your reasoning amounts to "because I said so."
You and your fellow travelers here are the type of people who give Marxists a bad name - you visibly don't care about socialism, you simply want to weaponize terminology you barely understand as a cudgel with which to beat others down.
You're not communists, you're bullies. The end.
No.30479
>>30478Bullies is a stretch
The proper term is LARPers
Leftypol is a hangout for the online stalinist subculture, that’s what you’re missing
No they can’t really be said to have any ideology for the most part other than a vague aesthetic approximation of stalinism, that’s about it
Leftypol used to be smarter, but it dumbed down significantly around the start of the Russo-Ukrainian War
No.30480
>>30478>No, it's word salad. It's just a bunch of buzzwords taken from dialectical materialism stitched together into a hollow platitude that resembles a coherent statement, but in reality, it's hollow.Wrong. All of it is a statement that carries truth. Your lack of understanding does not change the truth.
>You haven't analyzed anything, nor have your compatriots on this site generally. You've just hurled empty invective, called it "analysis," and then expect others to give you validation for saying the right things. You have the mentality of an adolescent.Such paper-thin bourgeois ideology requires no such analysis. Your failure to realize this is quite hilarious. Do you actually believe that the paper-thin bourgeois ideology in this thread even deserves or can garner such analysis? 2+2=4, not 5. It is that simple.
>and then expect others to give you validation for saying the right things. You have the mentality of an adolescent.I expect no validation. I just posted the truth. The existence and continuous defense of blatant bourgeois ideology alone is what drives me. Your attacks are meaningless, as is your defense of this paper-thin bourgeois ideology.
>A great example of this is your use of the term "Trotskyism." Have you demonstrated any necessary connection with Trotskyism as a set of positions and arguments? Have you provided evidence or logical reasoning? No, you've simply made a series of assertions, and your reasoning amounts to "because I said so."You blindly make the assertion that this bourgeois ideology is worth defending, then defend it with nothing but blindly made assertions.
>You and your fellow travelers here are the type of people who give Marxists a bad name - you visibly don't care about socialism, you simply want to weaponize terminology you barely understand as a cudgel with which to beat others down. This is Trotskyism, as you reduce socialism down to some mere idea that some people care about. Beating down agents of reaction and reactionary ideas is revolutionary.
>>30479>No they can’t really be said to have any ideology for the most part other than a vague aesthetic approximation of stalinism, that’s about itThe only ideology promoted by myself is Communist ideology.
>Leftypol used to be smarter, but it dumbed down significantly around the start of the Russo-Ukrainian WarI've only seen evidence of the opposite.
No.30483
>>30471Why don't you just act normal?
No.30499
>>30483I will not degrade myself and my understanding down to bourgeois normalcy
No.30504
>>30480>I'm right because I said so>>30481>You can't hurt my feelings because I'm actually a worse person than you realizelmao this site deserves to die and I'm glad none of you will ever get married or have kids
You're profoundly unserious people hiding behind a mask of misapplied jargon.
No.30506
>>30504>worse person I never said or implied that. That's your interpretation and that's
fine. It doesn't interest me thoughever.
No.30507
>>30504>lmao this site deserves to die and I'm glad none of you will ever get married or have kidsyou're just projecting your own inceldom.
>You're profoundly unserious people hiding behind a mask of misapplied jargon.You failure of understanding does not equate to a misapplication of language.
>>30505Analyze my cock
No.30578
>>30480so much larp in one post
No.30864
>>30208*sound of bear trap slamming shut*
No.30879
>>30480>xiteen can't even understand what's being said to him but REEs anywayholy fucking cope
No.30916
>workerists
what in the fresh fuck
No.30917
>>30916its what the mods ban you for for not supporting bourgeois PMC unions, like the hollywood writers who get paid half a million minimum per rick and morty episode.
No.30919
>>30918> Worship of the worker is found in various state ideologies, such as Stalinism and Nazism. Workers are honoured for their role as builders of the nation, the economy, capital. Your source only exemplifies how retarded anti-"workerists" are
No.30957
>>30947paragraphs of westoid cope. summarize it to one sentence and tell me how that isnt just imperialism
No.30968
>>30967The entire post is just westoid cope. Anti-imperialists are slandered as third worldists. The post is anti-consciousness. There is anti-imperialist theory which validates the position. None of it is rhetorical. It is all literal.
No.30970
>>30969idiocy. youre an imperialist
No.30972
>>30971it is a clear manifestation of imperialist consciousness. read sakai
No.30976
>>30916It's a thing
I know "worker" gets a pavlovian response but
No.31111
>>30976Speaking as someone who matches the description of the latter (literally all of my labor has been manual), I can tell you I've met plenty of proles that fit into the former. One such person works three jobs.
No.31114
>>31111but do you wear a choker (I'm bored of this discussion). If you are the kinda person that wears a choker, I'll try to get into your pants. It's just monkey brain shit, if you dress "flamboyant", I'll think you are easy. And I like em easy.
Point is, the distinction between choker-wearers and non-choker wearers is more important than between manual and digital labor.
No.31136
>>31114I don't personally wear a choker. I generally dress very casually, especially at work.
No.31565
>>30864It is time to bump this and congratulate myself on a job well done. I predicted this at the start of the thread almost two months ago and it went exactly according to my prognosis. How did I do that? Through the power of the prophet Marx and DiaMat of course.
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