What's the Marxist take on the ongoing Drake vs Kendrick Lamar feud?
>>11932If hip hop is a thing of the past then what's the
Domineering cultural force in the world today, musically speaking?
>>11940>>11939>Sampling killed music for good by taking the communal nature out of it.>Making music by putting together pieces made by multiple people took the communal nature out of musiclolwut
racists always with this totally ass backwards shit lmao
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except you forgot one thing - electronic music is music people listen to while having the time of their lives at parties where they typically get drunk and high. there's genres like techno, which lean heavily into fast-paced beats and energy, progressive trance which often has vocals which is intended to mimic sexual orgasm in its function, with a buildup and climax as comedown, which utilizes a similar scheme to classical music or opera, and then there's rap, which is a beat and vocals, usually chatter, which makes you want to join in the chattering and feel a rhythm, but doesnt demand a lot of attention unless you intend to evaluate the meanings of the songs, which isnt what people do in social gatherings too much. rap makes me want to yap at least
anyway i dont see why you dont at least appreciate electronic music. there's a lot of variety which can be created through synths and basslines.
>>11965>Fun Meant to type dêg3ner@te.
That's an hilarious wordfilter ngl
>>11939>>11940>Sampling killed music for good by taking the communal nature out of it. Because this is the metric by which all music needs to be judged, right.
>The ruling class loves hip hop for a reason because it alienates the real working class from music and prevents black proletariat from turning to authentically proletarian and universalist music like folk.
>this shit againHip hop came from the streets, invented by WORKING-CLASS Black and (to a lesser extent) brown youth from the Bronx who used sampling because they couldn't afford instruments. Hip hop was subversive in the beginning. Several rappers had FBI files for instance. And like it or not, but hip hop is the music that reaches the people who will be the ones implementing socialism. That Woodie Guthrie white-guy-with-accoustic-guitar-singing-about-being-a-hobo shit is highly outdated, especially given that Black and brown workers make up the lion's share of the proletariat in America today.
>>11943Based
>>11945>The guy in the video shows how J Dilla's signature timefeel drum patterns can't be made or reproduced by a live drummer and can only be made by a drum machine. Ironic because Dilla was a classically trained musician and is highly, highly revered by jazz musicians today.
t. Currently dating a jazz musician
Also, Dan Charnas is a schmuck.
>None of those "beat tapes" could ever be reproduced by a band playing live. Most industrial/noise music can't be reproduced by a "traditional" band either, numbnuts. Go see any noise musician live and they literally just let their machines do their thing.
>machines have now made musicians who actually play instruments effectively obsolete. This is not true. You're also assuming the only thing producers do is "push buttons" when there's an entire artistry to sampling, and many will lay their own instrumentals over samples. Again, the two are not opposed.
>it's not too far off to say sampling is the eventual gateway to AI music. If traditional musicians have become useless, why not have all our pop music be made by robots and algorithms?Won't happen. There's already a public outcry over AI taking the soul out of music and art as it is. Once AI starts getting better to the point where it becomes frightening musicians will find ways to stomp it out and the public won't put up with it.
>>11947Guess what? Pop music was always cheaply made and easily disposable. Electronic music did little to nothing to make it more disposable.
>>11950>Fordism/TaylorismYou obviously have no clue what those terms mean. Again, bubble gum pop music was always cheap and disposable. Look at the slew of teen pop acts that came out of the 60s.
>>11960I hope you're not suggesting sampling is Malthusian or whatever.
>>11938>>11936Pop music was always popular alongside rap amd punk.
>>11940so is punk. At least hip hop had an organic reason to exist.
Punk was mostly bored white kids who decided singing positive stuff was too overrated.
>>11935empiric route: let's check the billboard charts
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-global-200/yup, taylor swift and other girlypop stuff
girls rule the world now
>>11999>>12000>they don't knowFirst, Drake brought it up in his own song Taylor Made, using Tupac's voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhEiduBxX4c&t=32sSecond, Drake has been caught on video being fucking weird with an underage fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp5b9dW1nrAThere's also a whole lot of weird circumstantial stuff where he consistently hangs with underage girls, like texting with Millie Bobby Brown about dating boys when she was 14.
>>11991I’m guessing one of Haz’s friends.
Show this shit to Haz and he’ll fully agree.
>>11924Lose-lose.
Drake is a known Zionist.
Kendrick's producer The Alchemist is not only a Zionist but also "Israeli."
We should unironically be supporting Macklemore.
>>12060OH NOEZ! An Israeli is EXISTING.
>>12061I'm sorry you don't understand high art.
>>12081Irony is when 10 years ago everyone loved Kendrick for being a lyrical miracle and hated Macklemore for being a culture vulture.
Looks like the tables have turned hard.
Domi and JD Beck recreated MF Doom beat track live and its sick
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oYKwotHRdHo?si=E3wnaEXPneGzrl1Q" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>Hip Hop is a good force for music, and is the opposite of what that dude who said it ruined music.
Music cant ruin music, music IS music
>>12091god i wish i could have had unrestricted access to instruments from an early age
instead i grew up in a retarded chvd family going to an underfunded public school
>>12113yeah it's just a coincidence
there's no way these guys would cook up a distraction
it's not like there's historical precedent for this
>>12118>every artistthe claim is that the CEO is a zionist (which is true)
the musicians do whatever they're told to
>>12120are you having trouble following the reply thread?
lucian grainge is a zionist
he's the CEO of UMG
kendrick works for UMG
>>12123why are you pretending that the average person thinks about events longer than the usual media cycle?
why are you so invested in downplaying this obvious psyop? are you a zionist?
>>12111>>12115Pro-Palis who see "Zionism" everywhere are no different from Zionists who see "antisemitism" everywhere.
Change my mind.
>>12087So, I should clarify: this is
materially a distraction in the sense that it distracts people. There's no cabal behind it.
>>12122>>12123none of this is a conspiracy
celebrity spectacle #48271947639473 happens, record label makes money from music released under it, and the sun sets on another day in the US
this still would have happened even if israel didnt exist
>>12168also.
>Nooo, muh hecking kidnapped by hamas.should not have SETTLERED on palestinan land them.
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