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Not reporting is bourgeois


 

its reactionary to oppose AI art in favour of petit-bourgeois artisinal labour. embrace progress.
219 posts and 30 image replies omitted.

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I made this photobashing out of google, yandex and bing images that include AI art that I drew or modified stuff in. Does this count?

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>>664879
*I drew over

>>664877
If you must, I suppose you can have your treats……

>>664881
It's not even a defense of ""treats"", you simply don't understand what exploitation means.

>>664882
>>664881
>>664882
I am so fucking drunk

>>664883
Anon it's 11 in the morning………….

this motherfucker gonna learn about time zones

>>664885
Only in Texas

>>664887
Is that where it's 11 right now? How close was I?

>>664888
It's 11am in texas and Mexico rn lol

>>664879
This is where it shines, as part of a workflow.

>>664889
Well??? Are you Texan/Mexican/TexMexican??? You got me on tenterhooks, anon

>>664703
>how much value?
In accordance with how much is needed to keep doing it. If you run out of funds to keep doing something at your current price, you need to up it.

>>664894
>In accordance with how much is needed to keep doing it
if no one buys my painting, my labour is valueless. likewise, if i spend more effort on a painting, this fact alone cannot inherently raise its price. artistic labour then has no value, unless standardised by a wage.

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this is what progress looks like, you triggered pink haired sjw woke snowflake radlibtards

>>664898
rent free

>>664898
gotta love that this could be parodying a post made here or on the depths of /pol/

>>664895
You can apply this to any labor though. Build a building and no one buys it, it is also valueless. It is a composite of being wanted enough to purchase and clamped at the lower bounds of the material needed to do the labor to make the thing. because on average you can't just ex nihilo find the energy to do shit no one wants.
This is why artists trend toward making things that people would buy, just as an architect trends toward making buildings that are up to code and comfortable to be in.

>>663768
>get pencil
>get paper
>start drawing
>no computer with internet access required
>alternative get a 30 dollars usb drawing tablet
What part of art is "petit-bourgeois"?

>>664925
>You can apply this to any labor though. Build a building and no one buys it, it is also valueless
yes, precisely
>This is why artists trend toward making things that people would buy
not in most cases. dont most artists (such as musicians) make their stuff public domain, or at least, publicly available? most artists are bad businessmen, which is why they starve. good businessmen privatise access to their work.
>>665011
>what is petit-bourgeois about art?
its petit-bourgeois if you make a living from selling commodities created by your own labour. the category of art is not itself petit-bourgeois however.

The last artist we starve will be the one who we commission for AI training data.

>>665322
/thread

>>664879
>>664892
Yep. AI slop is trash, proof-of-concept/shitpost memes at best, but AI-assisted art with a good director is actually worth looking at.

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here are some videos i made of marx using:
canva.com
you get 4 free video credits

on the last video my prompt was "karl and alunya reading das kapital together"
at least the AI gave us a brunette

i wasted my last credit on: "the most disturbing horror on earth" and got this shit.
i guess AI doesnt quite grasp the abstract. you have to be specific.

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>>665367
real??

>>665371
apparently so

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this is AI generated from "promptchan"

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you get 5 picture credits for promptchan
choose them wisely…

>>663768
AI is not progress, it is stagnation.
Yes, AI is now able to produce artwork that we haven a proven understanding and appreciation for.

The problem is AI halts progress. For everything.
Why learn a new thing when you can ask an AI?
Why develop a new skill when you can ask AI to do it?

This then leads to more problems.

How can you understand something truly if you never store the information in your own brain?
How can you study something further if you never learn anything yourself?
How can you find new ways to do things if you never learn the things in the first place?
How can we progress society and art further if we rely on tools of stagnation that are programmed to do things the way they've been done in the past with no advancements?

AI is not progress, it is a finish line.
We need to reject AI not because we can do better. We should not cross the finish line early because if we do then we will never go further.

AI robs us of our most human qualities, and those human qualities are the ones that both bring us joy and push us forward.

I don't want want humans to stagnate, and thus I do not want AI.

>>664333
>nobody likes it, so we should all embrace it and force it into every facet of our lives
youre dumb as shit, aintcha?

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>>665395
>please please please fight this retarded culture war
<communism is not concerned with this shit
>oh so you support it?
Don't call others dumb when you're a massively retarded radlib, bro.

>>664333
>that doesn't mean ai is some fucking icon of evil you have to launch a crusade against.
Sorry we're filled with quasi-religious mouthbreathers who can only think in terms of vibes and they have enough free time to go on every goose chase imaginable too.

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>>665393
your general complaint is about all information technology, yet you project it onto AI. another sentimental luddite that history will throw off.
https://pornworks.com/en/generate/image

>>665393
>AI robs us of our most human qualities
Nothing says material analysis like humanism.
I'm convinced any lib that needs to label themselves as either pro- or anti-AI is a fucking idiot with too much spare time.

>>665398
saaaaaaaaar you are luddite saaaaar ai slop is the futuaaaaar redeem free ai slop in scam dot com saaaaar

>>665401
yes saar 🇮🇳

google gemini is not the most sophisticated

kino?

>>665393
I would argue that not only are you correct, but even search engines have a similar problem. See the many software devs that get by copying solutions from stack overflow, or people that tell you to "google it" when you ask a question.
People thought search engines were progress when it was introduced, but now the web has been moulded by the presupposition that search engines are avilable, meaning things that should have been linked went unlinked, venues where people post their works have been flooded with content was made with the intent of search engine optimization foremost before actually giving anything to the viewer, and things are posted and not linked to because it was assumed the search engine was enough. Now that search engines are proving to be an impractical solution to web indexing, we're in an archivists hell right now.
We're starting to see people not even try to find links to things and just trust the AI.

>>665475
>technology doesnt develop in a completely linear fashion therefore its retarding humanity
is this a sensible position?

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its so frustrating bc the anti ai crowd is actually retarded but then tech bros post cringe, simultaneously misunderstanding and delegitimizing ai as an art making tool, thus supplying anti ai people with valid criticism

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>>665691
No, nor is that the position I'm conveying, nor can you get away with pretending that it was.
These two technologies, in how they work specifically, have had adverse effects on archival efforts: search engines in making people not manually index things while being an unsustainable and lackluster alternative to manual indexing, and AI seeming to make people forgo the persuit of existing information entirely. Understanding both of these as true at scale is the key to using them in a way that won't harm you in the long run as an individual.

If you worked on your reading comprehension and stopped funneling all incoming stimulus into the closest approximate boilerplate debate talking point you would have an easier time understanding the world.
No technology ever has "retarded humanity," that's not what cognitive offloading does, nor was I even talking about cognitive offloading.

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So this is a porn thread, right?

>>665393
This is like saying that books are making people stupid. Because most of human history had information stored orally. No pen or paper allowed

>>664307
Then you would admit that image boards are useless.


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