/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>667885
I blame woke

>>667916
I blame streaming. At least one piece and super still have that clear focus on the action. Streaming just allowed animators to get away with cramming all the animation into a few scenes and then padding out all the actually important fights over entire seasons. Well never get something like the war on namek again.

This OP is kinda ass backwards.
This whole hyper focus on nothing but fighting is what makes action adventure series burn out quickly.

Also, there were many action series in previous decades also had soap opera like pacing.

Also, can we stop using the word "MODERN" to compare anything within the past decade?
Modern would be anything within the past five centuries.

>>667937
Ok, I’ll use “recent” then. Otherwise, no. Using the action as a background piece worked quite well and kept action series distinct from other genres. If I wanted adventure shows, I’d just watch something like scavengers reign, that blame! film, or well adventure time.

>>667947
>Using the action as a background piece worked quite well and kept action series distinct from other genres


Are you sure? Action is expected in every other genre as well.
The prob with action series is that they focus far too much on fighting to the point where half-ass morality theses are accepted.

Also action series only focus on main characters.

Most epic fights between heroes and villains never bother to focus on the helpless masses as individuals. They're only treated as trophies to be won, either by salvation or demolition.

Look at Naruto Shippuden.
I sometimes call it Shit Pudding.

I can see now how Kishimoto dropped the ball with Boruto.

Nothing but flashbacks within important battles and then there's long string out barrages where the heroes almost win but then the villians do a self- deux ex machina move.
And vice versa.

Action series work when they have word building and a set of coherent principalities to follow.

>>667950
>Most epic fights between heroes and villains never bother to focus on the helpless masses as individuals. They're only treated as trophies to be won, either by salvation or demolition
You forgot what starship troopers, Star Wars, 40k, forever war, etc. were? Nah. Action series are action based because they know how to portray prolonged action and use it effectively to tell meaningful stories. That’s why military can exist as a genre for films like full metal jacket and 1917 which are all about fighting.

>>667885
bbc

>>667963
>>667950
Also what you just said isn’t even true anyways. There are plenty of films (As in more action films anre related to collective struggle than individual issues) about collective struggle. It’s just that rather than being the films about fictional universe, they’re usually about the real world and come in the form of “nationalistic” or “militaristic” propaganda

>>667885
>people used to complain about fights in dragon ball and one piece taking multiple episodes to end, but that made sense because the fights were at the centre of those ACTION series
Revisionism. People complained about overlong fights in Dragon Ball precisely because they LACKED action. The one most common source of mockery and criticism as far as DB goes was that most of the runtime was characters standing around, talking, thinking and "focusing energy" or whatever.

>>667999
That was the point. You expect the animators to just have people constantly fighting without having moments to pause and think and develop as characters in a show where the point of the action is to exist as a background for that character development? They didn’t change that issue the show had precisely because it worked and it made moments like vegeta’s first death and Goku becoming super saiyan the first time way more impactful.

>>667999
AI response, shield your eyes as if it were a solar flare

>>667966
Even so, they always use a select group of few characters to help drive the plotline.
They may not be the influencer of major martial events but they often are the only perspective used.

>>668015
You mean war hero stories? Those are a dime a dozen. There are plenty of nationalistic wank films just about glorifying “our people’s glory” so much that there are thousands of poems and stories about that shit internationally.

>>668008
No. Dragon ball z has slow pacing compared to dragon ball z Kai. The saga was genuinely that slow and I just got through the freiza saga. I loved it to bits regardless because it was beautifully written.

>>667885
>hollywoodslop
They use the same algorithm for every movie to make as much profit as possible. Thats the only thing that investors care about.

>>668018
Let's not forget about how some soldiers lie about their service. I dunno if you watched Tropic Thunder.
It's a movie about some washed-up actors doing a typical Vietnam war movie based on a war veteran's book.

Spoiler: the author of the book admitted that he made up his stories. "Writers lie all the time".

>>668026
That’s more common than not. Plenty of soldiers lie all the time about being macho or “growing cold” just to not look weak or get dishonoured for not being prepared mentally or physically for real combat.

>>668033
And I bet most military action is just community service

>They’re all over glorified soap operas with occasional action scenes.
That's kinda how I would describe Arknights and I like it for that, but they've been making an anime adaptation of the main story line and it changes a lot to keep the action/talking ratio acceptable for an action-centric anime. Like in a fun way, I was just expecting wordy and delightfully surprised to see action more interwoven into it as enabled by the medium.

That makes me wonder how many mid action shows I've watched that would've done better as a visual novel game.

>>668051
>That makes me wonder how many mid action shows I've watched that would've done better as a visual novel game.

Naruto Shippuden

>>668043
And Harrison marching and or garrison duties. That’s not to say that that work doesn’t matter. In fact, what makes frontlines possible to maintain these days is that we don’t just mindlessly send out hordes of random dudes to their deaths in the midst of so much firepower where the action starts and spend more time preparing candidates for what’s to come.

>>668057
this. unfortunately you know how people moralise bloodshed as some inherent virtuous duty