so if anime is reactionary slop how come leftypol.org is an anime website? how do you solve this contradiction?
I ask here because no one at the discord could convincingly explain this to me
>>672516>I thinkNo you don't. Get the fuck out of here. Don't be a retard.
>>672539You're right, it's a cringe culture website instead with anons voluntarily humiliating themselves.
>>672662merely describing the punishment for the crime, and soon my friend you will have no testicles
>>672664open wide chudboy
>>672528There's this semi-popular mecha tabletop RPG that 4cuck /tg/ despises and constantly bitches about and tries to end all conversation with because the creators lean at least libby.
There's usually arguments about how it's incompatible with mecha anime because of reasons, and they'll bring up westoid shit like Battletech or some specific 80's anime about kings and shit(even though setting has factions with kings and space feudalism).
This cope usually ends and goes quiet when you bring up where Yasuhiko's sympathies lean politically. Then they just call him a traitor to Japan.
A lot of rightoids deep enough into a hobby enough to present themselves as the gatekeepers come to a bump in the road eventually. Realizing how certain their heroes or elders of a hobby, or certain seminal works, would hate them and would rather gatekeep them instead, that the rightoid is the evil ooga booga "rapefugee". Most of them just turn off their brains and go on. Anime is one of the funniest moments here because these are the "orcs vs elves" people, and they think Japan is based because of ww2 and think they're robotic "bugs" in a hivemind. So realizing how there's plenty of "shitlibs" and outright leftists in the history of the medium fucks them up.
None of this matters though.
>>679854>Realizing how certain their heroes or elders of a hobby, or certain seminal works, would hate themif you're a third worlder, this is true of all media created in the west
firsties constantly crash out about their favorite artists saying mean things about gays or some such, but if a bomb dropped on my head tomorrow, most of my favorite artists would shrug or cheer.
hell, a tiny fraction of that bomb would have been funded by me buying those artists works
>>672528This is just retarded speak, the golgo 13 author was a known LDP supporter and actively did government collabs
>>679854Shitloads of old mecha legends are old decrepit right-wingers and i can list of stacks, tomino completely derides yasuhikos marxist views and calls it dangerous and yasuhiko doesnt even share those old views anymore
>>679867Easy.
Name 5 popular cartoons that directly confront the concept of death, and not in a shallow way like a family guy joke.
Also, the only deep show on the left is King of the Hill you fucking hack lol.
>>679854>>672637>>679867This anti anime sentiment is really getting out of hand.
I remember when anime was pathologised as leftist slop. Now it's considered right wing
Also
>>679867, most Western cartoon slice of life are often recycled gags that celebrate awkwardness and nihilism. The exception are childrens media
Irony is, eastern slice of life is more sincere and doesn't appeal to edginess so much.
>>679867how about you don't derive life lessons from fucking cartoons lmao
same thing goes from cutesy moeslop shat out from the crevices of a gook office cubicle
>>679885Moralism is self infantilism.
Pathologising anime based on some strawman demographic is infantile logic.
Also there's far more obsession over superhero media.
>>679882This.
Most morality lessons are often done embarrassingly wrong.
Imo the best morality lessons are those from real life.
Even as a kid, I never really liked them much.
I preferred watching criminal investigations and history and science.
Without any filtering.
>>679867Tbf this is unironically reactionary sentiment
Art isn't soul this has been decisively debunked by Walter Benjamin and even Rene Guenon
The emergence of mehanized art and repetition means that it is very easy to tug at your heartstring, any "artsy" style can now be done by repetition and automatization, the greatest example of this is the recent Ghibli AI art meme
>>679952>So under which obligation do I have against pathologising anime based on an apparent strawman (quite tangible, actually) demographic. Logical? Is it logical for someone to dislike a medium of animation artificially propped up to appeal to a human infant cuteness factor for further commercialization? If that's what you wanna believe then ok I guess?
Just because something is cutesy doesn't mean it's infantile.
> I believe that this site is catered towards revolutionary ideology as we're still currently under the neoliberalistic hegemony both geopolitical and psychological and in to the regard theres zero logical reason to be associating with their 'treats'. To what means does this further the integrity of the visionaries of this revolution?You sound like some method actor whose brain is fried.
What revolutionary potential does this site have?
The most they do is whine about some stupid post made on Reddit or Twitter and call anyone and anything "fascist" or "pedophilic".
Amd lets Not forget the constant whining abut no sex
If anything, the strawman you have against anime is more suited for this pretentious sentiment of imageboards being "revolutionary potential".
Get off your ass get into a meatspace organization if you want revolutionary potential.
>>680039>The point was how it's how it's commercialized to the audience as a vicarious and neotenous persona of their own being, hence the soybabies that self-insert with it and the ever-growing subculture of age regression within the medium.Bruh there's a lot of media that does adultification of children's media. And yet, something like more is automatically pathologised.
And you dare to call it "age regression"?
Age regression would be actually turning people into literal infants
Moe isn't that.
>>680039This phenomenon has nothing to do with moe itself and everything to do with online culture that encourages anonymous posting while simultaneously force people to fit in certain social roles (i.e the schizo poster, the masculine posters, etc)
If you remove neoteny people will simply fit in to another roles given within the logic of exchange itself, but the criticism about neoteny is still fascinating because it represent what Camile Paglia referred to as decadence marked by feminizaton of the beautiful boy aesthetic, and much more damning than the popularity of anime is the feminization of twinks and bottoms until we get to the unholy symbiosis that is femboy that is specifically designed for straight men
>>680729This also relates to how homosexuality and queerness is sanitized in media. Ultimately the criticism of neoteny isn't that it infantilizes ppl (alread a nonsensical argument, under material prosperity mammals will increasingly have longer and longer maturity period, look at how cats in wild vs domestic cats behave, and look at how people today are having kids at a later and later age bcoz they are not mentally prepared for the sacrifices related to child rearing and wants to experience the world a.k.a stay young forever, this is what infantilization looks like not moe anime) but rather that it is non offensive and is the bottom of the barrel.
There is a reason why anime becomes a global phenomenon and its bcoz the moe artstyle is completely non offensive and easy on the eyes which makes it suitable for global mass marketing and production.
And how this relates to gay people? Well its how homosexuality has been modified today to be something cute or cuddly and acceptable to straight people (just like anime) while sanding off all the rough edges of it that can offend the sensibilities of normies
The most decadent of this is the existence of femboys and transwomen. Here we see a queer figure that is cute and cuddly and most importantly acceptable to general male sensibilities. There is nothing more decadent than this and this is also why trans women often associates with moe anime (another thing that is also cute and cuddly and accepted by male heteronormativity)
This is why sharties hate transwomen. While at surface value they hate them because transwomen are ugly and non passing the absolute ugliness present in most sharty memes is an indication that these people actually hate beauty and espouse uglyness, which is an aesthetic revolt against the Cute-Moe neoliberal aesthetic hegemony. And the figure of the transwomen is the living reincarnation of this hegemony, the beautiful boy that has become so feminized it looped back to be a woman
>>680720>>680735>>680729>>680720It's funny how people wanna get pissy about moe but not about child abuse in fiction.
Also accusations of "pedophilia" in fiction are usually projection of personal immaturity.
>Ultimately the criticism of neoteny isn't that it infantilizes ppl (alread a nonsensical argument, under material prosperity mammals will increasingly have longer and longer maturity period, look at how cats in wild vs domestic cats behave, and look at how people today are having kids at a later and later age bcoz they are not mentally prepared for the sacrifices related to child rearing and wants to experience the world a.k.a stay young foreverThis. People focus far too much on aesthetic maturity while semi-consciously ignoring practical maturity
"Infantilisation" being blamed on moe or neotenous cartoons is willful ignorance.
>>680735Hatred of moe is more related to the typical contempt that adults show for children's media.
Remember when hating on Barney was considered cool?
Or how about Little Einsteins?
Or My Little Pony?
Accusations of infantilisation and/or pedophilia whenever media is involved is usually just adultism
Vast majority of best selling media is often cussing, violence, and angst.
Why else is South Park, Family Guy, and Rick & Morty popular?
>>680729Not sure where to begin here.
I would recommend the short story "a prison, a body" I suppose
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/a-prison-a-body-nsfw.63933/Maybe also read "Hard Core: Power, Pleasure and 'the Frenzy of Visibility'".
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