Orcs in Tolkien works: Are repedeatedly described as a result of crude eugenics program performed by a technofascist antagonists (not that the protagonists are progressive in any way, but that's a whole another story), are born into and for militarised, imperialistic, and highly industrialised (by the setting's standards) societies and are incapable to function outside of them (I'd argue for both "magical" and materialist reasons), can be seen as a metaphor for what a lifetime of fascist indoctrination does to a person and/or what a catastrophic case of an untreated PTSD from the war does to a person (although Tolkien clearly didn't intend either, at least consciously), can barely be called a "race" or species and are more akin to an artifical lineage of mutants not unlike Daleks from Doctor Who.
Orcs in almost every fantasy work after that, or even certain adaptations of Tolkien: "Hey, what if all self-serving racist projection stereotypes about Black people, Native Americans, partially Central&East Asians, and sometimes Vikings were objectively true in our world? And what if they were all rolled in one species?"
What the fuck how did this happen
Is Gary Gygax the sole culprit behind this shit
>>672990All races and cultures that have hair have braids and dreadlocks.
Look up litterally any culture with the word dreadlocks and you will find depictions of it throught history.
Stop posting for a while.
Go outside.
We will be here when you get back anon.
>>672990The only orc I can think of that had something like "dreadlocks" was Lurtz from Fellowship of the Ring, and even then if you actually look at him, you realize he just kind of has stringy, unwashed hair that gives the impression of dreadlocks from a distance, but isn't actually dreadlocks.
I can't think of any orcs with cornrows.
>>672964What did Gary Gygax do?
Like, specifically.
>>672964You're just looking for soemthing to be angry at because you haven't been properly despooked of your idiotic racial notions.
This is a good article that helped me understand racism back in the day:
https://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Racism.htmlSome good bits from it:
>What is racism? If we simply examine the structure of the word, it would appear obvious that the word "racism" should be interpreted just like all of the other "isms". Just as humanism upholds the importance of human rights, nationalism upholds the importance of national differences, and theism upholds the importance of divine beings, racism upholds the importance of race.
<Does race matter? In an ideal world, it wouldn't. The fact that I am of Asian descent shouldn't mean anything to anyone, on any grounds, except as a point of purely academic trivia. But that's an ideal world. In the real world, have we been moving toward this ideal, or away from it? Does the "political correctness" movement help, or hurt?
>I feel that modern political correctness, far from reducing racism, is actually increasing it. One example is the politically correct terminology for visible minorities. In America, people of African descent are referred to as "African-Americans". People of Asian descent are referred to as "Asian-Americans". People of Indian descent are referred to as "Indian-Americans". Some of these terms are championed by members of those races, but I strongly object to them. If a young black man traces his American lineage back for ten generations, grows up in Detroit and never sees Africa, why should he be referred to as an "African-American"? Doesn't that imply that he's half-African, and half-American? Why isn't he all American? Why aren't the descendants of European settlers referred to as "Anglo-Americans", or "Aryan-Americans"? When I hear one of these hyphenated race names, it implies to me that the person has recently immigrated from Africa, or India, or Asia. Therefore, I see no justification whatsoever to apply such terms to people whose grandparents were born here. It accentuates the differences, and implies that they are "imports", rather than a natural part of the local culture.
<The politically correct media is constantly reminding us of the distinction between the alien cultures of non-whites and the presumably domestic culture of whites. The television is awash in documentaries and soundbites about "black culture" or "asian culture" or "latino culture", and people proudly demonstrate their "racial sensitivity" by "respecting" these various "cultures." What a crock … this show of "respect" is completely racist, no matter what the politically correct brigade may say. To even describe something called "asian culture" is to subtly make two claims:
>All people descended from Asian immigrants act the same.
<People of Asian descent have different cultural values than "we" do.
>The same is true whenever someone talks about "black culture" or "latino culture". The none-too-subtle implication is that members of visible minorities have conflicted cultural and national loyalties, torn between here and their "homelands". To put it another way, why don't we ever hear about "white culture"? No one talks about "white culture", because everyone knows two things:
>There are many different types of "white" culture. British, French, Irish, Italians, Germans, Russians, etc. are much different from one another.
>Once people have been here for more than a generation or two, we should assume that they've adjusted to local cultural values.
>Why don't we make those same assumptions about people who aren't white? Are we supposed to perpetuate the notion that all asians act the same, or all blacks act the same? Are we supposed to promote the notion that members of visible minorities are incapable of accepting local cultural values, or that they have some unbreakable spiritual connection to the birthplace of their ancestors which will forever separate them from white people?
>Oh, I know, the politically correct brigade might point out that white people aren't the only ones who talk about "black culture", or "asian culture". Well, that doesn't prove anything. No one ever said that white people are the only racists in the world, so you can't prove that an act isn't racist by showing that a non-white person does it. I've seen black people accuse other black people of "not acting black enough", and I've seen asians accuse other asians of "being yellow on the outside, and white on the inside." It's truly disgusting to me that a member of a visible minority can actually be criticized for not conforming to racial stereotypes.
>So if you want to be racially sensitive, don't bullshit me about your great respect and admiration for "asian culture". Asian culture does not exist. I don't know of any such thing. People from Japan, Korea, Indonesia, and China have markedly different cultural values, and people from different regions or different social groups within those countries also have markedly different cultural values. As for me, I don't belong to any of those groups. I love burgers and pizza. I watch NFL football on TV. I only speak English. I drive a Mercury. My dog is a family pet, not a snack. I laugh at water, er .. American beer. And when someone asks whether I'm Chinese or Japanese, I tell him I'm neither. I'm a Canadian. End of story. >>672942Fun fact, 40k isn’t different
The orks from that universe were the creation of Buddhist space frogs that designed them to be the ultimate killing machines hellbent on seeking endless combat to evolve and become more resilient to everything in the galaxy
>>673004It's true that most cultures have had some form of dreadlocks, and the association between dreadlocks and black people is one big misconception. Many members of the Rastafarian religion in Jamaica, called "dreads," wear this style of hair as a king of religious haircut. Because of this, it became heavily associated with Reggae music. Fans of Reggae of all races started wearing their hair in dreadlocks, but African-Americans started becoming possessive of the hairstyle since Jamaica is a majority black country. This is somewhat ironic, because these African-Americans were arguably appropriating Jamaican culture, as African-Americans with dreadlocks are seldom Rastafarians. At most, they might be Reggae fans.
Cornrows, on the other hand, are heavily associated a variety of black cultures and they are widely seen as a black hairstyle. That said, not all braids are cornrows and some people mistake basically any braid, especially braids that are tight on the scalp, for cornrows. Like, I've seen people mistake European-style braids for cornrows, like the French braid/Dutch braid.
>>673004>>673010Oh, but the bigger point is that I actually don't know of many orcs depicted with either hairstyle.
I know there are some fantasy settings that depict orcs with braided hair. I know Warcraft likes to portray its orcs as having lots of braids, but they're more typical braids rather than being in a specific "black" style.
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