/siberia/ - Off-topic

The left wing of capital is made up of petty bourgeois losers

>I think this person is bad at communicating and here is my reasoning: I don't like it. No the hundreds of thousands of followers they successfully amassed are irrelevant compared to my personal preference.

Probably the most narcissistic thing I have read in 4 months on here, lul. Sage for isg outside of /isg/.

Feels like it takes that kind of personality type to be comfortable putting your face on camera and not bothering to make a script, just reacting to twitter.
The right wing has the advantage that they can just talk like literal preists and pastors without having an audience that would have qualms with the culty vibes of that. They still get like how you've described the leftist ones when they lose that flow.

I'm glad more vTubers are getting into political commentary, they plan shit out before going live and don't get lobotomized by excitement of the idea of having their face seen online, because it's not their face, it's another creative work they've made to puppeter in their place.

>>677712
>i don't like nick fuentes or his views, but i was watching his stream last night out of curiosity and he knows how to fucking to talk and make it interesting, it's almost musical or melodic the way he talks
Well yes but Nick Fuentes is a gay Disney villain

I have no idea what you're talking about. Hassan has most likely gotten more people into anti zionism and socialism than any other person in the western sphere.

new israeli thread just dropped

>>677714
hasan's average viewership has been flat for the past year, the only time his viewers spike is when normies watch him during major news events and then they drop him as he's not all that compelling. the problem is he's not growing, meanwhile asmongold is able to spew his reactionary takes with 20k+ more average viewers than hasan and his viewer count growing. it's just another area where the left is losing. asmongold is able to talk in a candid and intimate way like you're having a beer with him. trump was able to tap into that energy where he doesn't speak like a politican and that was the appeal.

i mean it should be extremely important for major lefitsts to be able to speak to the mass and the proletariat in both a charming and persuasive style.

>>677719
asmongold is not in strict terms a politics streamer, he's more of a variety stream that slowly crept towards introducing political content, through the very very narrow funnel of video game titties = free speech. it's like if suddenly jerma started blurting out left-wing talking points

hasan otoh, is pretty much a news anchor at this point, 95% of the stream is news and politics. he'll never grow his audience because people aren't just that into news and politics, it's a small miracle that he pulls so many viewers to begin with.

>>677720
Put the politics aside and its obvious Fuentes is 100X more talented than Hasan.
There are lots of great streamers but very very few of them are in politics, and Hasan certainly isn't one of them.

>>677723
> Put the politics aside and its obvious Fuentes is 100X more talented than Hasan.
lmao

>>677724
Glad we agree.

anyway asmongold's peak viewership is when he's pushing consoomer crap, it was already pretty revealing when you said you think asmongold's garbage stream is better, but now that you also think nick fuentes is better, then i guess you're just praising nazi streamers and disguising it as you being concerned lol

maybe hasan should have more giveaways lmaooooo

>it wouldn't matter if hasan did less news or politics, his viewership dipped when he played wukong or marvel rivals or did non political content reaction.
because his main audience IS news watchers

>asmongold's stream and popularity started reaching new heights
where's le proofs

>>2319485
>drops are different, people just come into a channel and idle for that
glad we agree asmongold's numbers are completely inorganic

>>677728 (me)
also forgot to add, twitch growth in general has flatlined, NO ONE is growing their audience in twitch.

>>677722
it wouldn't matter if hasan did less news or politics, his viewership dipped when he played wukong or marvel rivals or did non political content reaction. the problem is that he's so average in his rhetorical skills or even dumb sounding. he also sucks ass at debating. his big breaks were that he had connections with his uncle at TYT to help him build his youtube channel and he was able to befriend destiny in his early twitch streaming days. destiny actually use to host hasan all the time back when hasan had 100 viewers and even did collaborate IRL streams with him. there were very few political streamers on twitch especially actual leftist ones so when twitch got much more popular after covid, it also boosted hasan's growth with gen z as he was able to fill that space at the right time and they were able to find a streamer that looked like a chad with similar beliefs with isn't sterotypical of the right's view of what a lefitst looks like.

>>677721
asmongold's stream and popularity started reaching new heights because he did more politics and now spends way more time with politics than he did before. it keeps growing because he does more politics and he's rhetorically more engaging than hasan.

>>677726
drops are different, people just come into a channel and idle for that. i'm talking daily average viewership and asmongold is winning on that.

>>677728
>where's le proofs
asmongold went from 20k average to 50k average in a year after the pivot to politics. people leave when he plays video games now. youtube viewership exploded as well and constistently beats hasan's youtube videos.

Good communication requires planning in advance. Speech writers. Audio engineers, etc. Streamers don't do that. They just show up on twitch, react to contact, and then react to chat reacting to them. Some find this "organic" and "down to earth" so they throw money at it. Sad but true.

>>677731
>reactionary politics are popular in reactionary society, especially when presented in a form of media where the main point is to react to things without thinking too hard about them, which is the essence of reactionary politics at the individual level

it is a mystery how this could have happened

>>677731
the hasanabi channel has also seen moderate growth, from 20k to 30k average over a year. of course asmongold has bigger numbers because, as i said, he speaks about video game titties on a video game website, whereas hasan is full news all the time. keep in mind that these are exceptions, and growth for twitch IN GENERAL has dried up.

>>677732
Who was writing Fuentes speech last night when he was commenting live on what was happening?

>>677734
hasan was averaging 32k viewers in 2022, his growth is flat. twitch viewers "dried" up because a lot of streamers like ludwig went to other platforms like youtube live. but there are a lot of streamers who kept rising like kai cenat who gets 120k average viewers and he's usually in the Just Chatting or IRl cateogry, not gaming. hasan has essentially already peaked. he needs someone to help him not speak like a fucking retard and get better at debates

>>677735
idk because I'm not a nick fuentes watcher

>>677719
>Asmongold is successful because of his rhetoric genius, it's not because the entire online eco-system from funding, to governments and algorithms favors right-wing streamers.

lul

>>677738
Youtube purged a ton of rw content creators after Trump won, during the pandemic, and after Jan 6. There's never been a similar crackdown on lw creators, they just suck.

>>677739
>purged a ton

I am sorry but what?

>>677740
Oh no you failed to disprove my claim :(

>>677741
>They banned like two people who were open Holocaust deniers.
>This proves that there is no such thing as a complete and utter surpression of leftwing CC and huge boosts for rws. Yes, I know that it's 2025 and Elon Musk owns Twitter now.

Total and utter delusion.

>>677735
Nick is a Heritage Foundation guy, he's got snippets of thinktank prewritten stuff ready and uses improv inbetween.

How hard is it to admit that anglos online, especially anglos in "nerdy" spaces are insanely reactionary and thus orbit arounnd pasty, filthy-looking reactoids. You have to be some sort of retard to believe asmongold is a capable and compelling public speaker. the guy can barely look at people in the eyes when interviewed IRL lol. asmon is "their" guy to a fault.

>>677743
LMAO you'll provide zero proof because you made it up

>>677744
that's a fatal flaw of the left that underestimates these kind of guys, they may not speak your language but they appeal to a lot of white dudes with blue collar jobs for instance. during hitler's rise, he was also portrayed as a loser and a joke, with mockery and dismissal from the left. i'm not saying asmongold is trying to be hitler, but there are plenty of right wing 'dorks' in our eyes and upcoming ones that will be able to command a lot of social capital and influence because they are charismatic to a large portion of the masses. people mocked trump as well. these guys know how to speak to the mass, they know how to use language

>>677739
>Youtube purged a ton of rw content creators after Trump won
You don't live on Earth.

Hasan good thoughever, especially trying to dumb things down to normies
That's why people have to resort to lies about him, call him a rape loving terrorist or shit like that
>i don't like nick fuentes or his views, but i was watching his stream last night out of curiosity and he knows how to fucking to talk and make it interesting, it's almost musical or melodic the way he talks
>meanwhile i switch to hasan's stream and he has no charisma
>he either talks like drooling frat bro
You are not coming from an honest place and no one should listen to you, you're like a DNC consultant. Fuentes is poison to anyone who isn't a teenager who just discovered 4chan. That's not to say that 4chan isn't filled with neckbeard virgins, but Fuentes' arguments only works newfags new to this dumb shit

>>677739
Every major site fucking spread their asscheeks and artificially boosted right wing garbage after Trump one, tiktok being the best example
Charlie Kirk literally cried to tiktok admins about being "censored", and tiktok aritificially boosted him. And let me tell you, I talk to zoomers who are on this shit 24/7, no one likes that dork. These people are only popular because they're forced onto the public by right wing think tank, and there's a big likelihood assmold is not any different

>>677712
At best leftist streamers are monotonically educational, I don't think i've ever laughed or seriously enjoyed myself when watching any leftist streamer, Nick on the other hand is actually very funny. He doesn't take himself too seriously all the time like Hasan does, even when hes being serious.

>>677749
You can't even search for Nick Fuentes on TikTok, or Instagram. Fact is he is talented so people watch him. There is no equivalent on the left. Accept reality.

>>677751
its just propaganda at the end of the day. Hitler was a great orator too, if that's what your into.

>>677746
>that's a fatal flaw of the left that underestimates these kind of guys
they're not being "underestimated", the left genuinely has nothing for former gamergators who are concerned about nintendo censoring vagina bones. these are irredeemable hitlerites, sorry.

>>677752
>we didn't really want to win
loser mentality the left is cooked

The shit that the left falls for the most is the the "market place of ideas" lie. It's the idea that this is an even and honest playing field where the best most popular ideas win and gain traction. They then obsess over aesthetics and optics. The left needs to be manlier and """normal""" and less hysterical. That shit can help, but it's missing the forest for the trees. Crowder, Shapiro, all of these golden age rw grifters, you can literally look them up and they got their star from getting angel donations from the Koch brothers, the Wilkes brothers, all sorts of billionaire oil barons. Look up fucking Crowder's early work, you really think the children were clamoring for George Washington(this man is Canadian) rap and pro-Gitmo arguments? I'm not even getting to Peter Thiel right now.
The left simply does not have the institutional backing. That's the uneven playing field here. The right can throw much more money on astroturfed campaigns.
Hasan is a buff objectively attractive tall man with a large social circle of normies(some even conservative) and shows himself working out every morning. He's everything people beg for but the anti-reality right-wing still has massive campaigns smearing him and calling him some gay soyjak literally while some women are squirming around him asking for autographs or some shit. If you think people prefer Assmold over that, you're just showcasing the places you go to online. It's fat white nerds wanting to hear the racism they're already used to but also big money being thrown at conservatives that don't give these people what they want.

>>677754
no, i'm agreeing with you. we should start appealing to the centrist idiots too with better marketing / media control in order to crush fascists

>>677751
No one besides 19 year old virgins watches this man. Accept reality. Most conversation around him is gawking at his existence
You pick your nose and eat your boogers too? You think that's what normies want?
>>677754
Even fucking other right wingers bully and mock Fuentes. Again, accept reality.

>>677756
>we should start appealing to the centrist idiots too with better marketing / media control in order to crush fascists

unfortunately when most people say that they just mean accepting right wing framing

>>677735
Probably an FBI agent.
>>677743
I actually do wonder. The Heritage Foundation has its fingers in so many pies, I wouldn't be surprised

>>677730
>he's rhetorically more engaging than hasan.
uh
yeah
based
uh yeah based yeah

>>677757
Well if only 19 year olds watch Fuentes then no one else is watching anyone else. He was the biggest stream last night BY FAR. The fact that other right wingers hate him is completely irrelevant lots of left wingers hate [insert left wing personality] and it makes no difference. The cope emanating from your post is palpable.

>>677760
Kind of crazy that that is still more engaging than whatever the fuck Hasan thinks he's doing.

>>677763
People who find him engaging already agreed with him in the first place, he's a retarded subhuman who gets kettled by his own redditor fans and repeats propaganda
He's popular because 1) he already had a fanbase with his WoW shit and 2) he gives the white virgin nerd populace what they want to hear

>>677762
The man
LITERALLY EATS HIS OWN BOOGERS on stream.
Is that what you want? He probably gets shadowy money and if he's naturally organic, then just kill him and send his fans to a reeducation camp or some shit. Probably you too

>>677760
I know infinitely more about what Nicks ideological views are through social osmosis than Hasan. What even is Hasan's ideology, vaguely anti-capitalist, vaguely marxist, vaguely supportive of social-democratic liberals, and vaguely supportive of an assortment of marxist-leninists?

>>677766
what's nick's ideological views lol

>>677766
>I know infinitely more about what Nicks ideological views are through social osmosis than Hasan
that just shows what areas you're in

>>677765
Literally no one cares, you sound very immature.