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Not reporting is bourgeois


 

is it too cliche to hang this on a wall?

I don't think people would know it's communist anyway lol

My wife's Bull is like the plow that broke the plains.

It's odd that cliché has become a spook instead of a media analysis tool. Clichés are good, they encourage remixing.

>>678266
that's racist

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>>678266
The 420chan variant is better.

is this a sex thing

>>678613
its dogshit

>>678614
its about the 1917 revolution

>>678664
what does 1917 have to do with triangular sperm going inside an uterus

>>678613
they just added green.

>>678678
No it changed all red to green (blood to marijuana transfusion) with the greatest symbol of 420chan (4 lines, 2, a 0 in the shape of a C) breaking through the disguising reactionary forces of UNODC, DEA, Straightedge (written in cyrillic). The text is also changed accordingly to зеленый (green) from красным (red), Бей remains the same because it means hit.
>>678663
It cannot be worse than the original and it can onlybe greater than it is because it is a great replica that transpires it completely in essence. If you don't like it, you have a problem with the color palette and great symbolism or are on the receiving side (the losers) of the triangle.

>>678720
memecommunists should all kill themselves tbqh

>>678721
There'd be no one left on this site besides me if they did.

>>678677
it's a wedge breaking in a person's teeth

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Trvke: Early Soviet Vanguardism>>>>>>>>>>>Soycialist Realshitsm

>>678677
< Beat the Whites with the Red Wedge is one of the most famous works by Lissitzky. Lissitzky made it in 1919, when Russia was going through a civil war, which was mainly fought between the "Reds" (communists, socialists and revolutionaries) and the "Whites" (monarchists, conservatives, liberals and other socialists who opposed the Bolshevik Revolution).

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>>678741
i think socialist realism was cool when it was used to portray a realistic unglorified view on the daily lives of common people, something that contrasted heavily with most of our art in the past which focused on the people at the very top

>>678266
>is it too cliche to hang this on a wall?
<in 1945 Pablo Picasso declared that the "painting was not invented for decorating houses, but as a weapon of attack and defence".
#resist

>>678741
avant garde was just a bunch of petite bourgeois idealists imposing their nonsense on the working people

also, socialist realism wasn't an "art style" but a method. there's abstracted / stylized socialist realist works as well

avant garde, constructivism, suprematism, etc. are just babby's first favorite art movement. the novelty wears off, believe me.

compare stalinkas to khruschovkas
that's socialist realism vs constructivism for you

>>678785
>avant garde was just a bunch of petite bourgeois blah blah blah
all artists are petit bourgeois lol, miss me with this pseud moralizing

>>678766
my big problem is that Soviets wanted this to be some stagnant absolute trend, a view supported by many even today as seem by >>678785 .
there should'nt be any trve art type, all art is made by a worker's hand and thus should all be expropriated and repurposed for the Proletariat.

>>678794
What part of "socialist realism is not an art style" do you not understand?

>>678664
was 1917 a sex thing

>>678802
>erm its not an art style, its a cultural doctrine about literature and art
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD


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is it too cliche to wear this in the cold?

>>678810
Yes uyghur now what's your problem with it

>Oh wow, you like Farscape too?

>>678266
Nobody will any idea what this poster means. I barely know its early soviet modernist art.

>>678807
everything is a sex thing

>>678785
on today's episode of
>i don't like it so it's PETITE BOURGEOIS



>>678845
That it was boring, derivative and as meaningful as Thomas Kinkade painting 99% of the time

>>679026
Thank you for proving them right.

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Is it kitsch to get this as a poster with a 7m diagonal and hang it on my wall?

>>679774
It's not like anyone will ever see it.

>>679776
I have a wife and children.

>>679777
Maybe you should ask them about it and not us?

>>679774
What is that structure? A dam for the lunar waters?

Just say you are into Soviet avant garde stuff, you will look trendy
>>678785
The logical conclusion to this post is that only Funko Pops are true proletarian art because they were made on an assembly line in Indonesia.

>>678802
The "socialist realism is not an art style" part, you are just coping pretending it wasn't an art style while come on, grow up, every modern art style in the 19th and 20th centuries had either a manifesto (like the surrealists) or an implicit doctrine, it's like pretending an apple is an orange because your twisted ideology told you apples are bad, it's just pathetic. No wonder Marxist sects don't get anything done in the 21th century when people like you are that delusional, you babble like kids.

>>679785
>The logical conclusion to this post is that only Funko Pops
"It was real in my mind"
State employed artists are proletarian, retard

>>679788
Ok, what is the "art style" of socialist realism in literature, where socialist realism originated in the first place?

Retard

>>679792
>what are literary genres
😭

>>679792
>where is the art style of impressionism being expressed in litterature and architecture?
Maybe read a few more Wikipedia pages about the history of art then we can talk again

>>679795
>>679794
So, not an "art style" then.
You're just owned and coping

>>679797
being intentionally obtuse doesnt make you "win"

>>679797
>if I redefine something enough time on an imageboard, even if I'm wrong, it will be material reality!!!
Sorry but now, read about the history of Soviet art.

>>679798
Nothing obtuse about it, you're just another retarded western ignoramus who thinks socialist ralism is when there's tractors and workers and pictures of dear leader, because literally everything you've ever known was fed to you by western anticommunist propaganda.

Socialist realism is actually quite simple:
"Socialist" - art shouldn't be reactionary
"Realism" - art shouldn't be deceptive

Pretty reasonable constraints, "artists" really hate it though when art gets proletarianized, because they believe in bourgeois metaphysical mystifications about "self expression" and "conveying abstract truths".

>>679800
>read my CIA funded propaganda book written by anne applebaum!1111
nah, you're the one who keeps trying to redefine things, I expressed the trivially true statement that "socialist realism isn't an art style" and you've been coping ever since

>>679802
>bringing up the CIA when discussing fucking art
lol pseuds

pic related is the pinnacle of petty bourgeois "artist" mentality that can only emerge when private property exists:
"I can take a massive shit all over the horizon and show off my unique "ideas" with no consideration for the public"

russian shitlibs still mourn the fact that the retard who made this sketch was rightfully not allowed to ruin soviet cities with his retarded nonsense

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>>679803
>OMG CIA COULD NEVER USE ART FOR PROPAGANDA
fucking stupid retard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_expressionism

>>678785
>>679802
>>679806
Class struggle has nothing to do with art or culture or whatever the fuck. Get a real job please.

>>679807
then youre being as retarded as cia libs by pretending art can go against material interests lmfao

>>679808
>watches outright fascist hollywood slop about ubermenschen rising above the massses through the power of their will and inherent superiority, 24/7
>"Class struggle has nothing to do with art"
Stupid westoid uyghur

>>679809
The material interests of a recently proletarianized liberal bourgeois artist are pretty clear: they want to continue "expressing themselves" on the public's dime, and making art that asserts the power of an individual's ideas over the culture of the masses.
"lol i'm going to throw thousands of years of folk culture into the trash and reinvent art from abstract principles lmao" - peak bourgeois idealism

>>679811
>muh culture
and you call others petit bourgeois?

>>679812
All culture comes from the masses, including bourgeois culture

>>679814
>"the masses" rhetoric
my question stands

>>679815
uyghur

>>679802
>Pretty reasonable constraints
It's funny that you are talking about "constraints" like an art school would do, the exact same terms.
But it's not art because anon said it wasn't, totally not the same thing. Really makes you think.

>>679811
>"lol i'm going to throw thousands of years of folk culture into the trash and reinvent art from abstract principles lmao" - peak bourgeois idealism
Literally what Soviet avant-garde art and then socialist realism did, you fucking dumbass

>>679811
Why are you pretending that academicist art i.e. realism and extreme attention to technique was actually folk culture all along?

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guess im an artist now huh

>>678266
this picture is very sexual btw

>>679824
socialist realism did NOT do that

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>>679844
Your mom didn't suck my dick

>>679846
she never will

>>679845
vgh
kino

>>679831
It's the synthesis of the best modernity with the best of folk traditions.

not a "break", not a "rejection", but a surpassing. it's the same idea as monuments to workers, and the luxurious interior of the moscow metro - something that before only the bourgeoisie could enjoy, now made public, available to the masses.

constructivists and their ilk, on the other hand, would have the proletariat confined to grey ugly boxes, essentially reproducing the grim utilitarian interiors of the factory. bourgeois fetishization of technology and industry. it's like a slave driver obsessed with drawing whips, chains and pillories

of course, the revisionist khruschev in the end granted the constructivists their wildest dreams: covering the entirety of the soviet union in pig disgusting khruschevkas (peak constructivism)

>>679856
>Muh aufhebung
>Muh ugly commieblocks but leftistly
Yup, it's a MIGAcom.

>>679894
"commieblocks" are constructivism you dumb retard, part of "soviet avant garde"
socialist realism is moscow metro and palace of culture and science

dumb westoid retard kill yourself

>>679903
the moscow metro looks like shit, most socialist realist architecture looks like dogshit

>>679904
Yeah, I agree.
Still better than retarfed avant garde and constructivist crap, though

>>678741
Socialist realism can be pretty kino

>>679941
true…

>>679941
Just don't make it the Absolute only art style, done.

>>679945
socialist realism is not an art style

>>679960
can academics stop pretending art or culture has anything to do with class struggle PLEASE

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>>679941
it just needs more shading

>>678266
>omg pacman! waka waka XD

>>679945
>muh choices

>>679983
Imagine thinking social planning under communism will even waste time deciding what art is LE GOOD or LE BAD, holy shit.

>>679983
>muh muh
muh muh muh muh

>>678720
>to зеленый
This is incorrect case btw

>>679986
It has and it will, seethe liberal

>>680299
really showing what your class background is if thats one of your concerns lmfao

>>680433
>the working class doesn't need or care for art, all they need is tools, labor and factories, if you've got time to lean, you've got time to clean!!111
the scowling grimace of a capitalist hides behind the "leftist" mask of every ultra, trot, leftcom, etc.

>>680299
They did and the Left is worse off for that. In China Maoist authorities tried to discourage people from reading Jane Austen because her works did not contain explicit reference to class struggle which failed miserably because her novels are just good fun and sometimes that is all that is needed to spark interest even if you realize the class and material bias present in a work written by a high tory bitch
(Ofc had the Maoist been as TERFpilled as i am they'd realize that women trying to select their partner ultimately stems from parental investment theory and thus division of sex and thus class struggle)

>>680739
epic greentext retard, you arent advancing proletarian association or the class struggle one bit with your obsession with culture you politically inert dumbfuck

>>680850
>art has nothing to do with class struggle, it's why porkies spend billions on it
ok retard lmaoooooo

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>>680856
>libs have lib ideology and fall for their own crap
youre such a smart little boy

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im doin a heccin communism with my painting brah its called propaganda look it up

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>>680859
I say this and I look like this

>>680856
NTA but how is that sentiment wrong?
Art has no inherent value in class struggle.
If porkies spend millions of dollars in art, it's because it serves as a good distraction

People are too focused on symbols rather than intent/action.

>>680865
its similar to the just as vacuous sentiment of "if cops are oppressing you then you are a real revolushunary". just zero critical thinking

>>680865
>Art has no inherent value in class struggle.
wow, I guess every actually existing socialist project was fucking retarded then, with all their posters, agitprop, painting, censorship, cultural development, funding of the arts, etc. etc.

this site is full of idiotic westoid morons who are too addicted to their pop-culture piggy-slop to pull their fat heads out of the trough, so they'd rather just delude themselves into thinking "it doesn't matter lol, i'm just enjoying myself, it's literally just a bit of fun :) hehe", instead of critically assessing their own habits

for a westoid, treats are an unalienable right, so western "leftists" have to pretend it's a non-issue, just like they like to pretend racism and sexism aren't "real" issues, in order to resolve the cognitive dissonance of being "leftists" who align with capital on everything that is actually present in their day to day life

>>681905


>this site is full of idiotic westoid morons who are too addicted to their pop-culture piggy-slop to pull their fat heads out of the trough, so they'd rather just delude themselves into thinking "it doesn't matter lol, i'm just enjoying myself, it's literally just a bit of fun :) hehe", instead of critically assessing their own habits


>for a westoid, treats are an unalienable right, so western "leftists" have to pretend it's a non-issue, just like they like to pretend racism and sexism aren't "real" issues, in order to resolve the cognitive dissonance of being "leftists" who align with capital on everything that is actually present in their day to day life


Jesus Christ dude.
You getting all menstrual over nothing.

Again this is what Im talking about.
Pseudo intellectuals who think academic tricks are more integral than industrial means.

Even if socialist leaders hired artists to represent their policies, the art is backed up by actions.

And for you to equate real issues like racism and sexism with art is exactly what's wrong with the left.
Maybe some of the anons were correct when they say that communism is not leftism.
Communism is the logical conclusion of leftism but you'd rather stay lingering in libleft crap.

People like you are the ones who hide away from the real world and hide behind "theory".

>>681906
90% of all media produced in the west is direct and unabashed glorification of fascism, racism, sexism, imperialism, class domination, violence and eugenics.

You don't notice because you are also all of those things, and your "real world action" amounts to trying to secure your own slice of the imperial plunder from your fellow labor aristocrats and petite bourgeoisie higher up on the ladder.

>>678266
Nah. Better than a portrait of some bitch ass politician from the 20th century

>>681908
>imperial plunder
Lib

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>>>>681908
Star Wars is fascist, Harry Potter is fascist neo-feudal dreck, selfie-obsession is fascist, British soap-operas are fascist, sci-fi is generally fascist, ironic detachment is fascist, porn is fascist. Masscult under imperialism is inherently fascistic. Sorry to spoil your 'fun'.

"But i like Star Wars and i'm a progressive??" – Said the yankee teenager as he gorged on his milkshake thickened with the bones of African farmers.

One day people will ask: "How did Anglo-Americans not see their own fascism?" And part of the answer will be: "Because they were entertained by it".


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