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what is the materialist explanation other than everything being more expensive for millennials not wanting to have kids? Are videogames and/or porn to blame

I hate children.

It is expensive. Also it seems meaningless and to me it seems like it causes more harm than good. But cost does play a huge role. Plus atomization and alienation also play a role and it took me way too long to mature and I haven't really matured much in all honesty and I bet many others of my generation haven't really matured much

There's only room for one stupid, smelly, loud, emotionally disregulated, biologically incontinent waddling oaf with no sense of self-preservation in my house and that's me.

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everything being more expensive

>>684577
but life is even harder in places like india, yet ppl are having tons more kids there, so it can't be just the price of things

>>684580
Women have less rights in India plus marriages tend to get arranged over there. Way more extreme poverty also plays a role. Plus anyways people on average are still having less children there too it's just that the population is generally younger than a more developed country so more people likely to procreate

everything becoming more expensive

>blaming video games and porn for sexlessness

>Putting procreative sex on the same level of morality as cleanliness and vehicular safety

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>>684565
Personally I haven't like this world in a long time, so why the fuck would I have children? I'd never even get married because that means marrying the system.

>Told our entire adult life:

<Hey! Fuck you! No one cares! We're going to rob you blind and run your country into the ground
<Whoahh! What do you mean you refuse to bring more souls into this world to feed this machine?

No, fuck you. I'm not supporting this system in any way I can unless I have no other choice.

>>684584
>>Putting procreative sex on the same level of morality as cleanliness and vehicular safety
i don't even understand what you meant here. i didn't mean to make any moral implications. i brought up por and videogames because i'm a millennial and personally the main reasons why i don't fuck (other than money) are porn and videogames

>>684586 luigi road rage

Alienation
I feel like the commodification of dating in general has made it difficult to form real relationships that lead to marriage, and invariably, children. On top of that you have a culture which has a bunch of 'rules' you must follow to seem 'normal' and not creepy, especially for men. Don't date coworkers, don't approach random women at the park/grocery store, etc.

Kids are to blame. They should make it more appealing to have them.


anti natalists and le "i hate children" posters are a minority and whatever answer you're looking for, you should automatically filter those annoying outliers out

it's not economically advantageous.

>>684590
Agree that dating is commodified, disagree w everything else

>Don't date coworkers

This is fine and happens all the time.

>Don't approach random women at the park/grocery store/etc.

This is also actually fine as long as you're not doing some cringe PUA shit. True, grocery store is hard because there's usually no good conversation starter. But I chat with randos all the time, at the beach, bus stops, coffee shops, book stores, parties/gatherings, etc

<Pro-tip: don't just only talk to people you're attracted to. Learn to strike and enjoy conversation with anyone - your neighbour, the janitor, etc.

>>684565
It's not a very materialist explanation, but I honestly think people can sense that the vibes are really bad. In the same way that animals will seek safe places in order to breed and give birth, humans have an underlying instinct of when it's good to breed and when you should wait and conserve energy.

It's because youthful males are infantalized and there are generally looked down upon by the masses, leading to youthful males to grow up stunted and unworldly.

>>684565
neoliberalism
People have kids to be part of a society
Margaret Thatcher dissolved society in 1984
/thread

They are spoiled liberal satan worshipping nazi commies who never grew up.

i’m not into materialist stuff but i do know so far it’s because most millennials who don’t want kids is because they’re ageist and view them as property and even if they do have kids they still have some sort of power and ownership over their kids

>>690004
I think that's generally been the case except in the past it was a bit easier to become an adult sooner so you could separate from your parents sooner

Not wanting to give up one’s free time.

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>>690011
This is probably the second main reason after money. Limited amount of time in your life, most of it is spend on shitty responsibilities, and in 21st century there is so much for a person to potentially do, so why would you give up the little of truly yours time to raise a child?


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