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yeah

what about sigma beta alpha omega kulak

>>686539
The difference between an introvert and an extrovert in reality is social skills and self-confidence.

I group people in two camps:
real uyghas and fake uyghas. OP is a fake uygha. I'm a real one.

It is a completely valid personality dimension, its just that people treat it as two categories rather than normal distribution.

>>686545
>social skills
doesn't exist
>self-confidence
fake concept

all the "soft skills" and "self-esteem" nonsense were invented by american psychologist (which should be by itself a red flag) to launder privilege. it's an appeal to vibes to cover inconvenient facts

>>686539
all pop psychology personality traits are either circumstantial or straight up superstition

>>686556
>it's an appeal to vibes to cover inconvenient facts
What are these facts?

Personality classifications have always been that
The four temperaments which have been used since Medieval Times or phrenology


>>686556
Postmodern society prioritises "soft skills".
And irony is, our child rearing is overregulated to the point where youth aren't allowed to socially develop naturally.

And also irony, the moral obsession with soft skills has left a glaring deficiency in hard skills.

Irony is, you'd learn a lot of soft skills if youre in a blue collar job.

>all pop psychology personality traits are either circumstantial or straight up superstition

This.
Especially when it comes to childhood development
Children have their lives fucked up by chauvinistic parents worried about their kids exhibiting nuances that "may lead them to become homosexual"

>>686551
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>>686556
ya don't think some people are better at navigating conversation and social tact?

>>686917
I don't say no, but let's be honest, most of the time it's overused especially since not all peer groups are the same


Some people are more assertive in groups that match their interests while being more quiet/passive in other groups that aren't.

>>686539
Eh kinda.
The INTJ stuff is bullshit but there's clearly people who thrive in social environments and those that don't.

I've always found it very silly myself. No matter what way people describe them, the attributes of introversion and extroversion seem to be in constant flux for like, everyone. I am sometimes recharged by socialization, if it's good socialization. I'm sometimes recharged by being alone and chilling, because, y'know, obviously.
The idea that you could call a whole-ass person "an extrovert" or "an introvert" seems ridiculous, and like it only caught on because shy people exist and normies demanded an explanation.

>>686927
>The INTJ stuff is bullshit
How so?

>>686940
>No matter what way people describe them, the attributes of introversion and extroversion seem to be in constant flux for like, everyone.
The terms describe broader tendencies. You are misguided to believe it‘s a rapid up and down for everyone to the same degree. It‘s easily observable that some people seek out socialization often and others are often socially withdrawn.

>I am sometimes recharged by socialization, if it's good socialization. I'm sometimes recharged by being alone and chilling, because, y'know, obviously.
You are an ambivert and your fallacy was to make yourself the total sample size to derive a universal conclusion from.

>The idea that you could call a whole-ass person "an extrovert" or "an introvert" seems ridiculous, and like it only caught on because shy people exist
Introversion doesn‘t mean being shy.

>>686941
what is presented without evidence is bullshit without evidence