I'm autistic myself and I relate so much to this meme. I hate being around other autists, I feel so much second hand embarrassment and cringe because my parents resented me for not being normal. I've tried socializing with other autists but I just can't.
>>687104Autism wasn't inveted by a Nazi. Autism already existed prior and autists in Nazi Germany where to be killed like other handicapped people. But a Nazi doctor with the surname "Asperger" believed that some high-functioning autists had a neck for mathematics and science related subjects and created Aspergers as a sub-category of autists to be spared and further studied for use.
Yes, there is evidence of autism, namely the brain architecture of autistic people. Autists have much more synapses because there is little synaptic pruning during formative years. That leads to symptoms such as sensory sensitive and poor executive function. There are various other differences in brain chemistry and brain architecture that correspond with autism's bahavioral symptoms.
>>687078>>687090>>687095>>687092Fellow HFA
You're kinda being arrogant
I understand the frustration that having autism brings but taking it out on other autistic folk is not the answer
>>687113Yep, it really begs the question about free will
>>687104It exists.
>>687077This
>>687081This
>>687087Not all quirks are the same.
Some are bad but some are harmless
>>687091This.
>>687085Autism should be cured.
I agree that autism is a curse
Leftypol has a funny way of coddling autism but then will wanna genocide these same autistic folk for not being leftists
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep40700Neurotypical Peers are Less Willing to Interact with Those with Autism based on Thin Slice Judgments | Scientific Reports
Tell me how autism isn't a curse…
>>687256Well that's just long covid for everyone involved.
Restraunts are CIA funded plaugeboxes and you should avoid them anyway.
>>687069>I feel so much second hand embarrassment and cringe because my parentsThis is mind poison and you should stop thinking it.
You don't think of autismal behavior as embarrassing and cringe because of anything your parents did. You think of it that way because it is, in fact, embarrassing and cringe. Do not resent your parents for telling you the truth.
>>687076People find Rowley obnoxious and, more to the point, a lesser person than a non-autistic. And they do think this, even if they don't openly admit it. At best, when you're openly autistic like this, people might come to think of you on the same terms as the friendly neighborhood dog rather than as an equal, and that's the
best case scenario.
>>687258>Youre le heckin eugenicist for not coddling autism as a cute quirk rather than a neurocognitive disorder>>687087I think you're confusing quirks for vices
>>687389I dunno man. It sounds like you're gonna punish anyone for the slightest nuance.
>>687078Guess what?
Most of your behaviors are applicable to HFAs
>>687142Neither are you nor most imageboard users
>>687390This.
It's amazing how Leftypol has no problem with wanting to round up chuds and liberals and gas them but they cry "eugenics" when it comes to preventing potential disabled kids from being born.
And these same Leftypol people have no problem with abortion.
These same Leftypol people whom got indignant when an OP asked about adopting Down Syndrome kids.
>>687264It's more "I'm not like other autists" than "autism is my superpower"
>>687267You're right for the wrong reason.
OP is right to feel what he feels due to parental treatment.
It is wrong for autistic people to act out but that doesn't mean that autistic kids whom are struggling to mask deserve hatred from their parents.
But this is why I'm all for mandatory health screening before procreation.
>>687399Those behaviors are not quirks.
Those are maladies.
And once again thats why we have alternative schools for such people.
Unfortunately, Leftypol thinks that severely ND kids should be put in NT kids otherwise it's "discrimination".
>>687400i don't believe they are, i'm pointing out that what someone like that thinks is a quirk, very well could mean that, i probably didn't make that clear that i was inverting their point against them
>>687401my dear, you need to take your meds
>>687401>Allism is the neurological disorder and will be cured under socialism. Mandatory vaccines for every preventable disease, abolition of the Windows, iOS and Android Operating Systems, and abolition of any centralized account-based social media platform. Allists are by every possiblely valid measure profoundly retarded sociopaths that think they're speaking in codes when they don't even know said codes (social ques),As if though non-allists don't use centralized social media nor have accounts on said platforms?
Also, Windows, Apple, and Android are all descendants of Unix, which is the choice for "anti-normies"
> like a child making up rules for a game because they're not emotionally intelligent enough to handle losing, and everything is a game they feel compulsed to win. Irony is, kids do make rules for games and play consistently with them, even if they don't like losing.
But ok, by your logic, anti-allism is exactly a sore loser of a child trying to manipulate rules so they can always win
>Stamp that out at the source–allism–and society will finally move forward.Just admit that you're bitter about not having your big day out and being accepted for being "not like other girls".
I swear, "anti-normies" really just sore losers whom wanna burn the world for not fitting in
>>687402>my dear, you need to take your medsThere's no reasoning with people like
>>687401.
The funny thing is I bet they're not even ND. They just think themselves as special just because they don't participate in typical pop cultural products.
If they had to deal with ND folk as a majority, and full level ND too, they'd probably won't be so eager to hate "allists"
>>687400In my adult life I've had more strangers that were visibly allistic either attack me (3) or someone in the same building than I can recall a specific total count, while I've only seen two autists fight each other for valid reasons by both parties, and witnessed 6 other fights I couldn't tell if they were allistic or autistic but probably were allistic.
The vast majority of fights are started by allisics, maddened that someone misinterpreted a social que they made up just then.
>>687407Ok and your point is?
Allists aren't innocent but autism is not a cute little quirk.
That's why I say socialisation is overrated unless for work or hobbies.
>>687414Those are HFAs though. Probably the most mild form.
>>687415Tbh most social cues are bullshit anyway. But I'm talking about this over sympathizing of autism.
I don't think you even care about autists, you just only hate allists. You're probably an allist yourself
>>687417Or maybe I spend my time in solitude away from others overbearing opinions
>>687461Wrong.
>>687433It's not gender dependent
>>687412It's not the motive but the practice.
I love how even Leftypol resorts to parental infallibility when it comes to family dysfunction.
"Parents just want the best for their kids".
That doesn't justify excessive nagging/patronizing.
Maybe get your gonads checked before you make a baby.
>>687504How
>>687507This.
Everyone needs to learn to enjoy being by themselves
>>687505Unfortunately, when you're a person who likes keeping to yourself, you're seen as a stick-in-the-mud.
Parents will beat/nag you to open up more.
>>687519Wrong. It's the opposite.
>>687522This
>>687524Apparently you've never been around people much.
Most people would rather be on their way.
>>687514Nothing. Just basic salutations
>>687521This.
>>687507Yes, and unironically.
>>687509Well, there's a difference between parents who just let their autistic kid know the hard truths about life, and parents who basically don't want their kid to be autistic and think it will go away if they pretend that they aren't. Your parents discouraging autistic behaviors in public is just them letting you know that it isn't appropriate. Them telling you to "open up" when you're keeping to yourself and know you're autistic is like parents of a paraplegic child signing them up for the track team.
>>687524I am not low functioning. I am in solid "Greg" territory and most people don't even suspect I'm autistic until they've known me for a bit.
>>687530That's the internet. In real life, liking superheroes and capeshit is completely normal.
>>687536You can feel resentment if you want, but the world is simply the way that it is. People simply do not care about the things you're interested in and do not want to hear you talking about it. In most cases, it is simply better to simply say nothing at all and not talk to people.
Even in dedicated interest groups, you should restrain yourself in how much you talk about it. Try to keep it to a single thought, try to not talk about it for more than a minute or two at a time, and make room for the person or people you're talking to say something.
>>687540Good luck trying score then
>>687530And there's a lot of posts on here criticizing anime, calling it pedo and assuming it as rightoids antisocial hobby despite many normies liking anime
>>687535>That's the internet. In real life, liking superheroes and capeshit is completely normal.The Internet gushes over superheroes just as much as IRL.
Theres more backlash against anime online
>Well, there's a difference between parents who just let their autistic kid know the hard truths about life, and parents who basically don't want their kid to be autistic and think it will go away if they pretend that they aren't. Your parents discouraging autistic behaviors in public is just them letting you know that it isn't appropriate. Them telling you to "open up" when you're keeping to yourself and know you're autistic is like parents of a paraplegic child signing them up for the track team.My mom was kinda both.
She was very overbearing and intolerant of me and my brothers being casual or non chalant.
She also bagged me to be more social
Yet she would accuse me of being "un masculine" for not being successful like most other guys or for having quirks
Having a religious black mom sucks ass.
They're more reactionary than the average white conservative.
It's like I cannot win with her
>>687549Anon, have you ever been outside much? With exception of friends and family, nobody likes being chat up by random strangers unless they have something in common.
Especially when it comes to applying for jobs
>>687550Well, maybe you should stop romanticising socializing so much.
Alot of successful NTs are not all glamourous nor talkative.
They're very much in their own worlds keeping an eye out for their own safety.
>>687550Non-autistics do not understand you and probably never will. In fact, many "extroverted" normal people cannot fathom not being an introverted normal person. They will give you the worst advice possible because they cannot imagine being anyone other than themselves and pretty much never take into account the advantages they have that you do not.
An attractive, extroverted normie might suggest making lots of small talk with strangers because
they can get away with doing that and, once again, they can't imagine being anyone but themselves.
You are an autistic weirdo, and
you walking up to a bunch of strangers and talking to them is a recipe for disaster. It is better for
you to simply keep to yourself, and only other autists are going to be able to tell you this.
>>687562It's not just an American thing.
World wide, parents are intolerant of kids having any social life independent of the family
Why else do adults whine about "kids these days" throughout the centuries?
And the irony is, most cases of child abuse is often family or school or church
>>687560Thank you
Alot of dating advice given to incels on here is often ill fit due to lookism
Most advice given is often conditional.
Especially if it's intergenerational.
Most old people think what worked for them will always work for posterity.
>>687572My definition of topical diversity certainly isn't gender and generational idpol. Muh older womyn, muh entitlement, so much for the tolerant left(ypol). Shut the fuck up uygha
>why are you hereIt's what I do instead of browsing twitter. Do you think normies don't scroll their phones? Thats how I know you're a shut-in
>>687574>It's what I do instead of browsing twitter. Do you think normies don't scroll their phones? Thats how I know you're a shut-inYou guys whine about phone scrolling and you call me a shut in?
Also you need to stfu . All the whining about "muh AI slop" "muh normies" or "muh libs" or whatever
>>687575I don't post about any of that. Is making up characters in your head another symptom?
>>687576I don't know what is a "place of avoidance". Talk normal if you want to communicate
>>687577>This is literally incel discourse, you can go talk to anyone, if you smile and you're polite they will be friendly 99% of the time unless you fuck up bigNow this is really out of touch
Using "incel" as a slur against any realistic advice is just copium.
Try being a dark-toned black man whom is always smiley and try doing the same social cues as a white man.
You get less positive feedback.
Or try being an awkward overweight disshelved man being a happy extroverted man
>>687579I guess my criticism of Leftypol posts has gotten you triggered again?
Maybe you have mind blindness buddy.
>I don't know what is a "place of avoidance". Talk normal if you want to communicateYou said "i scroll here instead of Twitter" which is a cliche contemptful sentiment on here.
>>687583I have a question for you: why are so obsessed with me?
If I'm such a shut in to you, you should just ignore me and be on your way, not arguing with "low functioning autists"
>>687586Show me the infographic where I make up three tenths of the board.
Thirty percent is often whining about chuds, whining about women, whining about AI, whining about mainstream media platforms, etc.
>>687589Well, it's more that charismatic attractive people would be accused of chauvinism if they didn't offer any advice.
Remember, the biggest plaintiffs and defendants concerning "lookism" are average people
>>687675"Normie" is a slur that says more about the plaintiff than the defendant.
True non-normies would not care about being antithetical to normies.
The people who are spiteful of normies are often less neurodivergent and more patronizing towards ND folk.
>>687677>>687607Autism is a spectrum
This whole stereotype of artists being anti-abstract/pro-literal thinking is a meme.
Autists do think abstractly but they don't follow along with neurotypical's definition.
Some of us do know implications of what others are saying but that doesn't mean we agree with them.
Also, sarcasm is often used as cover for contempt.
>>687607Show me the infographic.
Also the way you pester me reeks of autism
>>687267>>687383I keep seeing this meme pic everywhere.
Who is he and what's his story?
>>687675Allism is a neurotype, it isn't just "doesn't have autism."
>>687705Also this, defining yourself by what you're not instead of what you are is nonsense. "Non-normies" is just another consumer identity, hence why they end up congregating around a different set of norms among their circle.
>>687709actor spede passanen, a meme from ylilauta, a finnish imageboard, representing autism
they often used it to make fun of people on krautchan /int/ for general nerdishness and obsession with "serious discussions"
>>687754>krautchanit's kohlchan now actually
>ylilautaisn't it fucking dead?
>>687754It's sad how "autism" is colloquial with "nerdy" stuff.
Most autistic aren't into intellectual stuff.
They have average autism score with average preferences but only with different affinity levels and shitty executive function.
>>687803>>687804>Autism doesn't existWell then, let's see what happens when special needs kids are made to enroll in regular ed classes without accommodations
>>687766This is true.
>>687802Perhaps
But Greg can have Rowley phases.
>>687069I agree except for the last part of the meme.
"Autism is a spectrum" is one of the worst things to happen to mental health. It's obscenely fucking stupid if you've ever interacted with a "low functioning" autist and a "high functioning" autist. Their conditions are completely different. Whoever came up with the "spectrum" was evil.
>>687818>B-b-b-but you just cannot be autistic if you can think abstractlyOf course it snot like autism isnt a neurocognitive disorder that doesn't affect dexterity and immunity.
Nope it just means you cannot think abstractly.
>>687820So you think that there is no differing types of autism?
That autism doesn't vary in severity?
>>687841I'm starting to think you are autistic.
Like why are you so obsessed with me bruh?
Stop hatefucking me.
You're like an orbiter gatekeeping people from interacting with their cool friends.
Do you behave like this in meatspace?
>>687837Allism isn't a neurological malady. It's just a state of normalcy relative to congenital neurocognitive disorders.
It doesn't account for dementia or drug induced brain damage.
>>687848>So you think that there is no differing types of autism?>That autism doesn't vary in severity?The problem is that the variance is TOO great, to the point that it's meaningless and stigmatizes those who are "high-functioning". There was still a stigma around aspergers but at least it was a more useful and descriptive diagnosis. Why should a fucking -medical diagnosis- be a "spectrum"? It should be as specific as possible in order to address a patient's specific needs.
But putting psychology to the same standards as actual medicine leads to all sorts of problems because psychology is such a mess of a discipline.
>>687848Why are you dodging the question?
>You're like an orbiter gatekeeping people from interacting with their cool friends.Are Leftypol your cool friends? I thought you hated here. I mean, you're always whining. Number one whiner in the website
>>687889NTA but leftypol is all about whining
your post proves that
>>687886>>687878That's if you live in a ghetto
>>687879You're confusing psychiatry for psychology
But again, autism is spectrum and not all people are gonna have the same kind of symptoms on a given level
>>687912There are autistic folk who obsess over adult media more than for childrens media.
Also what's so bad about anime?
Of course stanning it isn't good but it's not bad within itself
Irony is, that's more allists whom obsess over childrens media.
>However, if you have autism for something meaningful and important, you should be worshipped and rewarded.Be careful with this.
Not all academic cultural products are equal
I would prefer if autistic folk were raised in blue collar training. It doesn't have to be anything heavy.
Light duty blue collar work.
Or maybe accounting or culinary.
Because let's be honest, the traditional academic route with doing paperwork isn't gonna work.
>>687920>Anime is pedo shit peddled by neo nazisSmh. Leftypol showing they're not different from chuds.
>>687933Those are the HFA kind.
Also notice that they're not necessarily good with following paperwork despite being well learned in academia?
Also again, not all academia is equal
>>687844Maybe telling children and their parents that they have a disorder and that they will never be normal is not a good idea?
You just have to look how my parents treat my older NT brother compared to me, the difference is insane.
They always encourage him, talk to him, even know his friends. I have told them several times about my friends and they don't want to know anything, I don't even think they have seen them in person.
>>687957>Maybe telling children and their parents that they have a disorder and that they will never be normal is not a good idea?I beg to differ. Truth is important
>You just have to look how my parents treat my older NT brother compared to me, the difference is insane. They always encourage him, talk to him, even know his friends. I have told them several times about my friends and they don't want to know anything, I don't even think they have seen them in person.
Yes that sucks.
>>687957>Maybe telling children and their parents that they have a disorder and that they will never be normal is not a good idea?They're going to be abnormal either way, if you don't actually tell them what's wrong with them, they'll be left wondering forever and it'd be arguably worse for their mental health.
>You just have to look how my parents treat my older NT brother compared to meSorry to hear that happened to you but having shitty parents doesn't mean that no one has a right to know what's wrong with themselves or their children.
>>687986>Children should learn to collaborate with their peersThat is something my parent did not learn, they just came out of the soviet system as a functioning adult, which I don't think is a result of the soviet system itself as plenty of autists today are also perfectly functioning adults. Though growing up with them was a pain.
>>687982When the "order" is someone being abjectly less capable of basic thought tasks, being unable to cooperate with others in a meaninful way–making up and enforcing social ques instead of focusing on the task at hand, and insisting on seeing everyone's unobstructed face so they can do eye contact rituals which involve seeing the mouth
during a fucking pandemic before randomly deciding you have a "passive-agressive" face and firing you anyway, and maintenance of this order involves being unvaccinated; of course people will think you're a quack for calling all deviation from said "order" a disorder.
>>687986Bruh, this is something children already do.
If anything children are denied any right to individuality.
They're forced to bond with peers that bully/gaslight them
Adults are spooked by solitary children.
>>688044"Social skills" in a nutshell.
Irony is, society was more social when there wasn't so many useless formalities.
>>688068You mean the neutral/stoic face?
Tbh I prefer that look.
I don't like smiling photos, especially for businesses.
They annoy me so much.
I cannot tell you how much rage I feel whenever I see the smiling photo of the journalist who wrote some liberal/reactionary nonsense article.
Especially if they're Christian political writers
There are stages beyond Greg, where you keep being an autist and are still mostly defined by your past history of Fregley-ness.
But in a different way. You are now a psycho, you know them normals better than they do themselves because you made the whole trip on your own merits. Nobody fucking helped you, they kicked you at every step of the way and blamed your inadequacy. You turned it around, you learned consciously, mistake by mistake, the things they normals never stopped to examine. The struggle made you stronger. By the time it became second nature FOR YOU to be "normal", you had constructed, actually constructed several personas for yourself. Researched, written down identities practiced day in and day out until you could step in and out of them. You became better, more adept at the social game than they are, because they never consciously developed the skills you were forced to, and then some.
You can finally hurt them. Every day you can hurt people with the impunity their radical individualist system affords you. There is no motive and no pattern. They were predators back then they are prey now. They had no agency as your torturers, as the therapists said, it was just how things were, you cant change the system. You accept that premise, normals have no agency at all, barely a hint of humanity. You don't lash out, you don't obsess. You pick from the buffet of life, the system works for you now.
>>688128>yet you lot are still mad that you need to look people in the eyes to let them know you’re actively focusing on what they’re saying.>it's not a meaningless ritual, you’ve just gone through so many years of shame that you’re incapable of doing it.If someone is looking at you in the eyes while you're talking, they aren't paying attention, they are focusing on looking you im the eyes, which is a very involved and concious process.
No one is capable of doing both perfectly, if anything autistics are better at it than allistics because they're aware of this and do tricks like imagining what you're saying on your forehead, while allistics
think they can and assume they heard what you said.
>>688136The first half of the post is true but the last half of the post isn't.
>>688130Not all children are bratty and not all elderly folk are senile and entitled. It's the family men/women whom are the worst though.
But I agree with the premise of this post. This is why we have solitude. The problem is a lot of anti normies aren't content with being by themselves. They want companionship but don't wanna sacrifice their quirks.
>>688119As an HFA this is petulance.
Why not just drop out of society altogether?
>>688128Tbh it's not the autistic fault completely either but you're right
>>688138That's not an entirely wrong post though. If we can be honest, how closely do we pay attention to people's words when we look them directly in the eyes?
>>688152That's kinda true as well.
ADHD and autistic are often always blamed for mishearing but allists are just as guilty.
>>687884>>687885i fucking died.
>>687886no its tommy being autistic.
This scene is an absolute classic, one time when i (certified touch of the tism) did a high dose of pure mescaline with my friend (certified not tistic) i was telling him this scene was how mescaline makes me feel before God, where im the waiter telling God "I dont mean to be outta orda ova here!" because at that time my life was completely fucked.
Also another time I was on a train on a consistent flow of high dose clonazepam and coffee telling the conductor that I was "Restin" another reference to this scene.
An absolute tism CLASSIC!!!!!!!
>>688310Autism does mean social ineptness though.
Although I do agree that social awkwardness is also a neurotypical phenomenon.
Autism is neurocognitive disorder.
Neurotypical folk with social awkwardness dont have that.
>>688350How do you know that Fregley isn't miserable?
Maybe he's happy because that's his coping mechanism?
Not that his exuberance isn't sincere but it doesn't mean lack of self-hatred when he's alone in his own thoughts.
I hate this patronisation of low functioning NDs as happy-go-lucky lads.
>>688543That would include you anon.
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