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I wonder how porn withdrawal or porn overdosing would work?

>>688513
it's a religious internet thing. they feel really guilty about porn but also like it so they try to frame it as an addiction thing so they can use the language of victimhood. everyone is a liberal so everything has to be talked about from small bean perspective, everything is about "lived experience", "trauma", etc. it is the same with all the other fake right-wing talking points, from "white genocide" to "male loneliness"

>>688513
I mean this is literally just flat-out empirically wrong but what exactly can I do about it? We're free to bloviate endlessly about how logical and righteous we are for rejecting opiates fed to the masses until one of those said "opiates" are things we actually enjoy, in this case porn. It's all the same relativistic logic that plagued leftism then and is surely plaguing leftism now; a framework entirely informed by perpetual negation and thus rejects any constructive paradigm. Enjoy your porn, it's not like a state that forms is coming to take it away anytime soon. Just don't act like you have any actual dimorphic concept of right and wrong.

>>688537
>empirically wrong
where is the empirical evidence of pornography addiction?
>righteous we are for rejecting opiates fed to the masses
marxism isn't asceticism retard

>>688541
Compulsive use of a highly instantaneous dopaminergic stimuli to which incurs a feedback loop of easy neurotransmission that then later devolves into compulsive withdrawals; including hightened tolerance to the same stimuli. All facets of an addiction and all empirically seen within numerous studies conducted on PMO users.
Privara M, Bob P. Pornography Consumption and Cognitive-Affective Distress. J Nerv Ment Dis. 2023 Aug 1;211(8):641-646. doi: 10.1097/NMD.0000000000001669. PMID: 37505898; PMCID: PMC10399954.
>marxism isn't asceticism retard
Marxian logic would be concerned of the indulgences specifically used in order to inundate the masses and be a further driving conduit of exploitation, not concerned some nebulous form of abstinence you nitpicking halfwit.

>>688544
your study specifically states: >dependence on online pornography does not represent a separate syndrome, but as some researchers and clinicians suggest, it can be included as a part of a hypersexual disorder
and >excessive pornography consumption is described in the context of “impulse control disorder.” This form of the disorder is “characterized by a persistent pattern of failure to control intense, repetitive sexual impulses, or urges leading to repeated sexual behavior.”
ie; people who have preexisting self control issues are more likely to feel they cannot stop using pornography, or engaging in other sexual activities.

also: >Some studies also reported that pornography use might be associated with lower levels of sexual wellbeing (Angst, 1998; Campbell and Kohut, 2017; Vaillancourt-Morel and Bergeron, 2019) and various feelings of personal anxiety, insecurity, and moral conflicts (Bancroft and Vukadinovic, 2004; Davis, 2001; Duffy et al., 2016; Frangos et al., 2010; Grubbs et al., 2019a, 2019b; Hooshmand et al., 2012; Young, 1998). Especially, the moral conflict as related to pornography exposure has been found in individuals who declare their religious belief
>In addition, the connection between religiosity and a culture emphasizing sexual purity can exacerbate this negative influence, including feelings of great guilt (Grubbs et al., 2015). These findings suggest a relationship between perceived addiction to Internet pornography and psychological suffering related to a moral conflict and incongruency due to guilty feelings (regardless of an individual's religiosity)
lol

>nitpicking
read the studies you link before you quote them, halfwit.

>>688554
god fucking damint, those chevrons didn't make my text green >:(

If pornography isnt an addiction then the consumption of it should be judged

>>688554
Just checking on this thread now and I'm surprised you still even have the patency to construe a rebuttal (to whatever capacity it may have, cannot instill validity into a relativist) and you literally just skim over the possible psychological/neurological considerations emphasized by the study to only the moral ramifications of it. The study's main function is to act as a repository of citations that substantiate what has already been proposed as truth. Not like I expected you to attempt to read those and interpolate, no, that's too high of a brain-damaged porn addict.
<Same article, "Repeated exposure to these artificial sexually arousing stimuli disturbs normal sensory signal processing at the medial preoptic area, which is the hub of the telodiencephalic reproductive complex (Kim et al., 2013). This atypical processing of sexually arousing stimuli also negatively affects neural networks of the mesolimbic reward center, which is usually involved in mechanisms of addiction (Roxo et al., 2011)"
<Same article, "Research indicates a reciprocal relationship between mood regulation and Internet pornography use, suggesting that some people may use Internet pornography to cope with negative emotions (Laier and Brand, 2017; Willoughby et al., 2019), and the use of pornography may be manifested in relation to anxiety and depression (Burtăverde et al., 2021)."
<Same article, "Users of online pornography involved in these activities also reported that their self-exposure to pornographic material may create guilty feelings and internal conflict in themselves with respect to their own 'involuntary' sexual behavior, which suggests that psychosocial stress and possibly traumatic experiences may play a significant role in Internet pornography addiction."
<"In summary, these findings show that stress, anxiety, and depression are strongly related to pornography consumption and conflicting emotional experiences as well as identity problems significantly enhance vulnerability to addictive sexual behavior–related pornographic experiences."
What have we learned? The relationship between pornography and other addictive substances being used as a reliance on basic mood regulation which mirrors it's same addictive patterns, the numerous observed behavior patterns among users that mimics a definitive addiction, the disruption of the sexual arousal process and the observed affects on the neural pathways, the emotional toll of excessive pornography usage, and including your own simplistic takeaway that it exacerbates compulsiveness within users in those with prerequisite issues.
>>>people who have preexisting self control issues are more likely to feel they cannot stop using pornography, or engaging in other sexual activities.
>wait bbbut its not really an addiction because while it does result in negative psychological effects i can just construe it as |||||||PURELY||||||| a manifestation of moral conflict even though there was nothing in the study to specifically indicate so.
Absolutely zero argument here whatsoever that actually reflects your original thesis in a positive light. FYI, other addictions like alcohol and tobacco, just like porn are perfectly capable of exacerbating previous compulsivity issues within people, to the same capacity that they can INITIATE it aswell, discussed in the same fucking study.
Please end your life. Please just do it. The fact that you spend your time punching air to make compulsive porn usage something cool and normal and defend it as an actual facet of your own presence here is descriptive of who you are as a person, especially with the autistic moeshittery you self-inserted as after publishing your highly reductive "own". I seriously mean it this time, kill yourself. Please. Please do it.

My own little brother became a victim. I remember it like last week. He was in fifth grade when it happened. Best in class. Bit shy. Never watched porn. So understand he had no immunity built up. A classmate shocked him with a picture with three (!) naked women. And he just died. He just died right there. My little brother died of porn overdose. He was just thirty years old.

Some people use porn to jerk off to fall asleep. It is hard for them to fall asleep otherwise

>>688572
Effortpost

>>688578
cant relate, jacking off gets me more active

>>688577
hot

>>688572
you do not need to write like such a fucking pseud holy shit.
none of what you quoted constitutes empirical evidence of pornography addiction, there is neither enough evidence of a hypersexual disorder, or sex addiction. the existence of compulsivity and those with sexual behaviours that they feel they have no control over is not the same thing as addiction. addiction and compulsion are models of mental disorders which cancel each other out.
>Please end your life. Please just do it. The fact that you spend your time punching air to make compulsive porn usage something cool and normal and defend it as an actual facet of your own presence here is descriptive of who you are as a person, especially with the autistic moeshittery you self-inserted as after publishing your highly reductive "own". I seriously mean it this time, kill yourself. Please. Please do it.
you clearly have a very emotional knee-jerk reaction to this subject matter, no doubt caused by your own conservative moral values around sexuality.

porn addiction is like weed addiction. it exists and the only people who deny it are addicts

>>688649
>porn addiction is like weed addiction
it doesn't exist and the only people who insist it does are those with something to gain from opposing it?
>>688567
people judge addiction all the time, and people judge porn consumption too
>>688579
the only effort in that post is the effort with which they abused a thesaurus.

>>688517
Back when I did keto I overdid it and was in pain for a while. Caught the flu after and idk if that was my immune system not getting enough protein or what.