why is there so many ageism as of lately both online and irl? whenever someone speaks up for kids or youth in general they get falsely accused of being a pedophile and a danger to kids.
i even saw a post on reddit posting a server owned by minors and complaining about it like it’s the end of the world when that’s literally considered to be a form of targeted harassment. most of my youtube feed is also now filled with retarded videos making fun of kids, especially for them raging at a game, or some bullshit like “hurr durr child gets mad at me for trolling them on roblox because they were playing peacefully and weren’t hurting anybody XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD”
even ageism exists irl as well where i live (im american) and combined in with ableism too due to how fascist america has become over the years (especially since trump is president too). american westoids literally think internet addiction and social media addiction exists when they’re a myth by modern day pop psychology and are often a sign of adhd as well.
even america has history being racist towards black, brown skinned, indigenous and hispanic youth as well as being misogynistic towards women who are young too. im starting to see them gatekeep fandoms, video games, basically almost literally everything from minors because of the rise of neo puritanism online from terfs, christofascists, and such. also going as far as to say young people ruined everything, they have “too many rights”, call them “children”, call them “fan cops”, call them “puriteens”, and so on fourth. this is even from spaces and people who claim to be progressive or left wing as well
this seems be a western social media thing though cause i heard chinese furries treat kids better and a chinese fursuit company also let kids try on their fursuit as well. unfortunately some people are starting to become ageist as well especially after turning like 18 or 19 years old outside of social media and non western oriented platforms too
i even witnessed some ageism, misogyny racism and ableism in my life before because i was on the spectrum as well being black, hispanic and young which lead me to being depressed and suicidal during the pandemic. so why is there a rise of ageism out of nowhere all of a sudden? why did it appear during the pandemic and became prevalent ever since then?
>why is there so many ageism as of lately both online and irl?Marketing campaign to push for online ID laws. Corpo sites wanna get more data for ads and AI, so they have a script to detect ageist posts and amplify them in the algorithm. People get pedopaniced, get cringe culture slop pushed on them, and then don't complain when the government wants them to doxx themselves to keep using the sites they're grown too cynical (spooked) to conceive the possibility of leaving because it's to "protect kids."
>i even saw a post on redditStop using reddit
>youtube feedMove all your youtube subs to an RSS reader and add this to your uBlock:
www.youtube.com###related
>even ageism exists irlThose people are constantly exposing themselves to the 24/7 news cycle and primarily communicate with people and bots on twitter, facebook, etc…
>american westoids literally think internet addiction and social media addiction existsThe internet and social media on their own aren't. The core web is composed of several sites that are. Saying "the internet / social media are addictive" is asserting that those core web sites ARE the internet and social media in their entirety, which to many people they are and it is important to correct that. Efforts in breaking network effect often take into consideration how habitual and prone to withdrawl people will be and design around acclimating people to healthier solutions; mastodon emulating the style of twitter because misskey might be too different, proton allowing windows games to run on linux because it's a lot to expect devs to compile and test for another OS, KDE and Gnome being generally Windows shaped and not some file-configured tiling contraption written in bash and C, etc…
>this seems be a western social media thing though cause i heard chinese furries treat kids betterI think China's at risk of this kinda stuff since they too have a core web problem, but the CCP has kept thinktanks from getting too wild. I do hope China still has a good web revival front going on though. I don't know Chinese myself so hard to look into that stuff.
>>690896This.
Adults complain about society being youth-oriented yet there are more restrictions being placed against young people.
It's now banned for teens to drive without an designated adult.
It's becoming increasingly impossible for teens to have after school jobs.
Kids are discouraged if not banned from public spaces
Cultural space meant for kids are hijacked by adults out of fear of "pedophilia" or "bestiality" or "devil worship".
Rental car companies and hotels don't allow people under twenty five to use their services
People now whine about feeling old in their thirties or even late twenties
>>690961This.
Irony is, it's the lib left whom are the most puritanical.
They're so bad, that they think juvenile characters being shipped with anyone slightly older is "pedophilia"
>>690961lol true
>>690980capitalism is literally the reason why ageism is prevalent tho. it enables oppression towards others based on age including kids
>>690980And capitalism is responsible for artificial extension of childhood.
But ok by your definition, elderly people being discriminated against is "irrelevant"
As is "underrepresention" in pop culture
>>691027You know in Naruto, alot of the influential people started out really young
Madara and Hashirama were teens when they became elite fighters of their respective clans.
Naruto and his peers were all fifteen/sixteen when they fougt in the Great Shinobi War number four.
Also, Pain is hot.
I especially love his painted toenails
>>691026I beg to differ
Blame the Roaring Twenties
>>690938>People now whine about feeling old in their thirties or even late twentiesThere needs to be a slur for people who do this. Always talking about
>we're getting le OLD bruh xDAnd yet they eat like shit, drink too much coffee, don't exercise, and stress levels are through the roof and yet they'll claim their shit health problems are universal and a part of aging which only gives aging already more negative stigma. Fuck those people.
>>690919
>the idea that children are not full people with full rights is deeply baked into american culturethat probably explains why a fascist such as trump got elected
>>690929
>Stop using redditreddit is only good for some things tbh. i use it for the youth lib sub, porn, hook ups, and answers to questions or stuff i need help with nobody has answered or witnessed before
>>690963>Irony is, it's the lib left whom are the most puritanicalyeah most of them claim to be against harassment over drawings and being able to differentiate fiction from reality and then create a moral panic about said drawings (such as falsely accusing artists of ai) or teenagers looking at porn (which is natural for them because of hormones) second later
>>690969adults will promote the factual belief that we shouldn’t conflict real life with fiction or the stuff you see in fantasy but then be emotional over drawings or a post made about drawings seconds later
>>690936
>The second pic is hilarious because usually it's the adult fans whom wreck childrens media.most of these adults tend to be white feminists who are middle class queers too (not to hate on queers or feminists but it’s something i realized after a long time observing them) that invented the terminology “pro shipping”. they’re also just overly victim blame-y, abuse ableist, classist, queerphobic, and misogynistic in general despite most of them claiming to be “queer women victims of abuse”. agree with them but their community is problematic and reminds me of anti shippers. horseshoe theory moment, an attempt at abuse and trauma bonding in action, and the rise of cult-like liberal/bourgeoisie hive mind mentality perhaps?
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Pro-shipperhttps://fanlore.org/wiki/Anti_vs_Pro-Ship_Meta_Surveyhttps://fanlore.org/wiki/Pro_Shipping/Anti_Anti_Surveyhttps://fanlore.org/wiki/Anti-shipperhttps://fanlore.org/wiki/Dead_Dove:_Do_Not_Eathttps://fanlore.org/wiki/Darkfic(completely different from pro shipping and is often conflated with that term especially, unironically enough, by pro shippers. i resonate with the term “dark fic” more than “pro shipping”)
>>691036
>You know in Naruto, alot of the influential people started out really youngboth the naruto universe and sonic universe has more freedom for youth than compared to the real world
>Also, Pain is hot. I especially love his painted toenailsas a person who resonates with that guy (look up the term “fictionkin”) including the guy who controls him, nagato, i absolutely agree with you
>>691041
>And yet they eat like shit, drink too much coffee, don't exercise, and stress levels are through the roof and yet they'll claim their shit health problems are universal and a part of aging which only gives aging already more negative stigma. Fuck those peoplefunnily enough i saw a video of asian women being healthy because they did
exercises and shit like that so that seems to be a western thing. i think elder also act like that because of the privilege the media makes them have when they’re just as oppressed as youth, bc of infantilization, but i wouldn’t say they’re as much oppressed because they still have more rights than youth, and are often stereotyped and portrayed as wise in both media and irl (which they really aren’t unless they have claimed that they “played these games before”)
>>691042true but i think it’s problematic on how it has become over the years especially in roblox spaces since it shifted towards ageism in 2023 because it brought back cringe comps and cringe culture in general (look at the hysteria around “retro slop” for example). i even saw a video where they added a trigger warning for gen alpha/beta as well which is just censoring kids in general. straight up. perhaps it’s an another sign of dead internet theory though? cause most of this stuff looks like it’s done and preformed by bots invading kids spaces or platforms made for children too judging on how the roblox ceo is now obsessed with ai
>>691603>>691641>>692028Interesting.
And yet, if and when adults have their rights restricted for a minority doing wrong, it's considered bad.
You think too lowly of people under twenty.
You think kids need to be hounded like pets.
>>691312>both the naruto universe and sonic universe has more freedom for youth than compared to the real world Real life had more young people involved in worldly affairs before the mid-twentieth century
A lot of our historical figures were in their teens and early twenties when they debuted in their careers
Nowadays, people think getting married before 25 is too young.
>funnily enough i saw a video of asian women being healthy because they did exercises and shit like that so that seems to be a western thing. i think elder also act like that because of the privilege the media makes them have when they’re just as oppressed as youth, bc of infantilization, but i wouldn’t say they’re as much oppressed because they still have more rights than youth, and are often stereotyped and portrayed as wise in both media and irl (which they really aren’t unless they have claimed that they “played these games before”)
This. Older people always have their flaws/vices justified as a badge of virtue
Especially male elders.
Yet they can condemn young people for flaws/vices and people will agree with them
>as a person who resonates with that guy (look up the term “fictionkin”) including the guy who controls him, nagato, i absolutely agree with youNagato was a real hottie. Too bad he wrecked his body doing the "Divine Paths" thing
>>692092What's even more irritating is that middle age is lumped with old age
They're not the same.
>>692616Some of it was, but it was mostly by adults. Particularly jocular adult males.
Irony is, these same people who mock/patronise youth for physiognomic traits are the same ones who get freaked out whenever they get called "old"
>>693750Also notice how society went from accusing kids of being too sensitive to being too edgy.
Adults used ro whine about kids ruining everything for not liking being mocked/patronised.
Yet, when kids did engage with edgy humor, these same adults then accuse them of being disrespectful.
have you guys heard of “dni lists?” apparently they mean do not interact and i’ve been seeing fandom adults posting them on their profile as of lately yet make fun of minors or youth in general for doing the same thing in fandom spaces too. here’s one i came across from an adult having a dni list on their profile. i know a created a thread about this put putting this out for people who have a life outside the internet
>>692616yeah stuff like that kind of made me scared of revealing my voice but instead i got dudes randomly assuming im a guy or a trans woman despite being AFAB with a deep voice.
>also i find it incredible roblox still exists and continues in-spite of all the controversy they've had and that their entire business model is basically getting children to make the game for them, unless that's changed in the last decade? i haven't paid much attention to it.most of the devs are adults now but a good portion of devs are definitely still minors themselves
>>692182kind of disagree cause good portion of them are unironically queer people themselves. i came across transgender who really fucking hate kids hence why hrt are getting banned in most places. i agree the other side of the queer community (which are most likely the loud minority) are probably cishet middle classes trying out new identities
>>693751no shit i’ve seen them create fatherless/motherless/parentless “jokes” but then turn around and get mad at kids for making edgy jokes or being an edgelord at a young age saying stuff like “sybau 💔🥀”
>>692079>Nagato was a real hottie. Too bad he wrecked his body doing the "Divine Paths" thingtbh emaciated people are also neat so why not?
We actually made our Discord server, we used to have it be 18+, and we didn't have any content that was explicit in the Discord server. There's no pornography, no gore, no, you know, we're having in-depth political discussions sometimes, but nothing obscene. And I started thinking about this idea that the internet is incredibly segregated, and we talk about how we need to reach the youth, but then we make our spaces inaccessible to them. And I felt pretty uncomfortable doing it. I was like, well, you know, I don't want to be seen as like a creeper or something. I don't want to be seen as like some kind of weirdo for not having my server be 18+, but then it's like, you go to a business, the coffee shop I go to, it's only 18+, after 10pm for certain events, but the overwhelming majority of the time, anyone can go in there. You might be 16 and be hanging out in there. There's definitely something to be said about this thought process. I'm very much of the opinion that you turn 18, you become an adult, you get new adult shit, and I strongly dislike this belief system of like, okay, well yeah, you're 18, but you're not really an adult because your brain doesn't mature until you're 25, and then oh, actually, when you turn 30, you're cooked, so what, we get five years of actually being a young person? It doesn't make sense. It's not a logical fucking thought process. A lot of this shit is terminally online. The problem is that everyone's terminally online now, so it definitely has trickled into real life spaces too. I guess the point being is just like, if you want to talk about socialism, you want to talk about the future, you want to talk about the masses, but then you exclude everyone who's under 18 from that discussion, and you're going to have a lot harder time reaching people.
>>697631This.
People complain about society being youth oriented but they bar young people from worldly things
They don't like younger people having access to worldly things.
>>697631>There's definitely something to be said about this thought process. I'm very much of the opinion that you turn 18, you become an adult, you get new adult shit, and I strongly dislike this belief system of like, okay, well yeah, you're 18, but you're not really an adult because your brain doesn't mature until you're 25, and then oh, actually, when you turn 30, you're cooked, so what, we get five years of actually being a young person? It doesn't make sense. It's not a logical fucking thought process. A lot of this shit is terminally online. The problem is that everyone's terminally online now, so it definitely has trickled into real life spaces too. I guess the point being is just like, if you want to talk about socialism, you want to talk about the future, you want to talk about the masses, but then you exclude everyone who's under 18 from that discussion, and you're going to have a lot harder time reaching people.This whole "24-30 is the new 18" is marketing scheme to extend adolescence to sell more toys and surveillance products to people.
It's a cute little cover for normalization of arrested development.
Alot of these people who talk about "muh brain development" are age sensitive because they haven't really achieved much in their prime years.
Back in the boomer era, people started their adult lives at fourteen. Had kids and a house of their own by twenty.
Back in those days, there was less liability laws. Education was more blue-collar oriented.
Nowadays, people spend their twenties in college, which is another stage of high school.
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