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There's a weird media trend that I find kind of off-putting. It's not everywhere, it's only here-and-there, but it always irks me when I see it. I think it's when corporations are trying a bit too hard to seem "inclusive" and for some reason they take things into full Barney The Dinosaur Kindergarten territory. There are some fantasy media that I think have moved a bit towards this.

For instance, this is Hasbro's official Pride Month artwork for Dungeons and Dragons. Now, there's nothing wrong with "D&D Pride." I just would have thought that a "D&D Pride" image would have been something like warrior-lovers in the style of the Sacred Band of Thebes or some heroic pair like Aeneas and Achates in some dark dungeon, back to back fighting off foul creatures, horrors and monstrosities, not… whatever this is.

Anyone else notice this??
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Hasbro owns D&D? Huh, I assumed that was WOTC or GW.
Also this just seems like a typical "chilling outside a standard D&D tavern" peice, nothing infantalizing, just low stakes.

Might be the pastel colors. A little hard to read due to odd contrast distribution. The beholder sorta feels babyish.

>>694726
Hasbro owns Wizards of the Coast who own D&D. I just kind of assume that some of the more blatant corpo shit Wizards of the Coast does is because of Hasbro.

It's a whole weird party thing with flower petals everywhere and a cutesy beholder serving drinks while kobolds dance with rainbow ping pong paddles, barrels with happy unicorns on them, all in these pastel colors.

Here's another example from D&D. It hasn't gone the full Kindergarten, but it's an example of the setting seeming to be portrayed in a very decidedly softer light. There's been some good artwork for the Planescape setting, but other bits have been a bit eyebrow raising, especially the stuff they first released. The first pic is old fanart for Planescape: Torment and is a more traditional depiction of Sigil. Sigil is, after all, a kind of bleak, ominous place, the city at the end of reality ruled over the by the godlike Lady of Pain that serves as sort of the Casablanca of the multiverse for anyone who needs to escape their plane entirely. Some of the new artwork, like the second pic, makes it look almost like a fun place to visit, almost like a fantasy NYC. There other artwork that makes Sigil look more like a funhouse than the city at the end of reality.

i actually had no idea up until recently that "D&D" was its own franchise, i heard the name for years and just thought it was a generic term for all pen and paper rpgs, then i read some of the lore on a wiki and i thought it s kinda sucks….

>>694736
The D&D franchise is kind of weird because D&D itself is basically just a copyrighted ruleset. But it's a ruleset with multiple official "campaigns," the most popular of which is the Forgotten Realms, which is what most people think of when they think of D&D. Weirdly enough, Forgotten Realms is actually an elevated fan campaign that was only made an official D&D campaign in the late 80s. The original official D&D campaign setting was Greyhawk.

So, in a way, D&D *is* kind of a generic term for pen and paper RPGs, since it technically refers to literally any campaign that uses that ruleset.

The Disney adult phenomenon is now extending to cover every relatively big "IP".

>>694736
Seems like people often just use the system and put their own lore on it. Like heavily modded minecraft.

>>694745
Wouldn't GURPS be better for that?

>>694741
ah okay, that makes a little more sense

>>694746
Yeah, but people like to tinker with and mix systems.

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>>694702
>There's a weird media trend that I find kind of off-putting. It's not everywhere, it's only here-and-there, but it always irks me when I see it. I think it's when corporations are trying a bit too hard to seem "inclusive" and for some reason they take things into full Barney The Dinosaur Kindergarten territory.
I fucking hate how people are infantilizing themselves like this. It drives me up the fucking wall. Probably because I'm autistic and people do this to me all the time.

shut up everyone youre going to invoke the people who think its ageist to not want adults to exclusively engage with literal baby shit

>>694753
I remember back when I used twitter I saw someone call lemonade juvinile and assert that drinking lemonade was pedophilia.
Agism is like mold on bread, it can seem like just a spot in the corner when really it roots itself in the whole loaf.

>>694756
>I remember back when I used twitter I saw someone call lemonade juvinile and assert that drinking lemonade was pedophilia.
the key is not being mentally retarded or insane enough to even bother taking something like this seriously and immediately realize its some jackass not worth giving attention

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>>694702

AI < frutiger aero < This < solarpunk < soft apocalypse < dullcore/liminal spaces < No particular aesthetic

>>694766
Why do you think no particular esthetic is the best?

>>694787
NTA but I interpret that as when once you start mixing aethetics without concern for remaining decernably "of" it's composing parts and trying to break into new territory.

The USA is a state where weakness and emotional immaturity is both celebrated, practiced, and seen at the highest levels of its authority and has been for all of its historyz

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>>694742
I did notice something like this.

I worked for as a cashier in a drugstore for a while, and because drugstores in Burgerland double as convenience stores and small general stores, all sorts of people would come in. This included many parents with their kids, and this meant I got kind of familiar with what the popular cartoons were among small children because their favorite cartoon would be on their backpack or shirt or they may be excitedly talking about it. The big one that I remember was Ben 10.

The cartoon that I don't remember any child seeming to be a fan of was Steven Universe. Now, I saw tons of Steven Universe fans, but they were literally ALL adults. For a while, I was actually under the impression that Steven Universe must be some kind of Adult Swim-style cartoon in the vein of Futurama or Bojack Horseman.

Except when I looked into it, lo and behold, it was just supposed to be a normal children's cartoon. And I watched an episode out of curiosity… and it came across not just as a show for children, but a show for young children. Like the sort of show that's just after actual baby shows like Barney. It's sort of in the same slot as the Power Rangers were when I was a kid (except that I would argue that the Power Rangers were way more hardcore than Steven Universe). So, it left me kind of gobsmacked that this actual toddler shit seemed to have a seemingly all-adult fanbase

>>694975
I like some rule 34 Steven Universe comics where young adult Steven is banging that Indian doctor. I just like the whole milf getting slammed by a young guy thing. It's pretty hot.

>>694975
Owl House has been memed to death as "that children's cartoon woke people care about". Then there are also internet lesbians insisting "it's not a children's show". As i recently watched the whole thing, i must admit it is set up as such, being set from the perspective of a young teen and featuring many of the expected episodic plots. I would argue it is enjoyable to an adult audience regardless, the same way my parents later told me they liked the witty humor in Phineas and Ferb.

First the passable fantasy worldbuilding gets increasingly more intriguing as the series progresses. Second the characters are genuinely interesting with compelling arcs woven seamlessly into the show. Even many of the episodic shenanigans hold up for this reason and the occasional novel worldbuilding concept. The larger narrative isn't groundbreaking or any more morally complex than a 10th graders essay, but still intricate enough not to fumble the stakes. If i ever became a parent, i would honestly consider watching this again with my child.

even when they do the inclusive shit somehow they make all the POC characters bland, the oppressors, and fucking boring. even putting POC in the writers room doesnt work since you get the most evil, pick me, ladder climbing perspective that might as well just be consensus with whatever else was happening in the writing room's status quo. there was no identity politics in games or entertainment because if you actually engaged with the work youd realize none of the identity politics politics and critiques of power made it in. they just got POC representatives for whatever was already the status quo. identity politics is the most fangless paper tiger ever conceived because its threat and critiques never materialized in the system and was simply the system's adjustment to critiques of its policies being strawmanned towards minorities. It never made an effort to bridge with cultures, research cultures, respect people as people which is what identity politics was supposed to revolutionize and fuel because that shit takes time and money and it would never be affordable with the human grind machine that is any faction of entertainment be it animation, movies, or otherwise. it was never recuperated and subsumed as some leftists say because that would require some actual integration of it. But the parts it did allegedly subsume were just people who already would have fit the needs of the system in the first place. Nothing was changed it was just an idea that never wanted to engage with the system in the first place having its rhetoric stolen, not subsumed, stolen and redesigned by the system as another shield against critiques.

>>695009
Is the Owl House related to Steven Universe?

>>694975
Was it the first episode? It starts like that then tone shifts.

>>695053
I saw that and some random episode in the middle. Came across as very young kid stuff in both.

>>695054
Do you remember a synopsis of the episode? Was the green one with detachable hands there yet?

I just remember it was the era where everything evolved into trauma shows where they just tortured the characters and let them process it in high pressure situations. (adventure time, gravity falls, etc…)

>>695056
All I really remember from the episode in the middle is that they were just dicking around on a farm and also there was a green girl there who kept talking about some empire.

>>695059
Ah okie, I just remember watching up until she came allong and got too busy in highschool to watch stuff, came back and there was some confusing incest gem parasite plot and they were on another planet.

I ought to give it another go and see if it was as decent as I remember or if my baby-ness sensors weren't calibrated yet. I know I tried to revisit MLP and season 1 felt like pulling teeth.


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