/siberia/ - Off-topic

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>>698659
"Whiteness" is a legal/cultural fiction that currently doesn't exist basically anywhere except Anglo world. Even, say, Fr*nch far-right avoids self-identifying with 'whiteness", instead preferring to talk about "Europeaness".

>>698672
Whiteness exists as a lingering sociological phenomenon that has been exported via colonialism or Western soft power. It doesn‘t only exist once it is legally inshrined, it already does when someone discriminates against someone else on the basis of being black or preferring someone on the basis of being white which Europeans do regardless if stigma about saying „race“ leads people to not talk about it openly.

>>698675
Were Arabs practicing whiteness when they were trading African slaves in the 12th century?

>>698676
The answer to your question does not refute anything I said.

>>698677
Hmm, well, if you are not talking about literal use of the word "whiteness", but about the [false] presumption of eternal superiority of people of European descent and their culture and laws, then I guess Israelis are white right now (even if they are Mizrahim, probably).

>>698659
Theyre white but not Aryan, rather they're semitic

>>698685
They are not even semitic dog. There are actual Arab Jews, meanwhile Israelis are mostly from Eastern Europe, some Western Europe, some from the US and then they made up a language to sound and appear more native to the Levant, while they get sunburn like any other gringo.

>>698682
I mean my reasoning would have been a bit different, but yes, Israelis are white because they are mostly of European descent, are seen as part of the Western cultural family and they are afforded privileges above people perceived as not-white.

>>698686
It depends on what logic, according Jewish law, including arab Jews, they're Jews, because Jewishness is past down through maternity, but according to secular opinion they're european settlers.

>>698690
Now let‘s ask ourselves if we pick the idealist conceptions of what it means to be a Jew where Jews from 2000 years ago could travel to Norway for all it matters and make babies with Norwegian men for a millennia and apparently count as semitic still, or we acknowledge that Jews have become heavily mixed with Europeans and over a span of 2000 years have become culturally European, which they funnily enough say themselves. They want to have their cake and eat it too. Israel is a bastion of Western civilization among the Arab hordes but they are still ethnic semites somehow. Jews make halfu babies for 2000 years and are more Slavic than Arab but somehow they are still ethnic semites somehow.

>>698659
Depends. Its a rather multiracial religious group.

They are the primary benefactors of whiteness as an institution at the moment, yeah.

>>698709
It‘s not about Jews as a whole but Israel, and they sure as fuck don‘t accept Ethiopian Jews and are only accepting them to maintain a facade. It‘s like white Nazis accepting some minorities in their ranks for more man power, to let the minority say the politically incorrect shit and to pretend your organization isn‘t racist. They do not accept them.

theyre whiter than the average white nationalist ironically enough

>>698729
except that they do? the "ethiopian jews are super discrminated" is a false meme, they're generally tolerated more or less by the liberal zionists, but they're not large enough to matter so most of them just don't care

>>698686
holy shit dude who fucking gives a shit, "erm they're not semites akshually", how does this matter? if they were semites (by your definition) would their colonization of palestine be more just? because that's the type of bullshit you're implying with this

>>698659
Israel could be considered a white country until 1990. Now it's just Syria but jewish.

>>698659
no you stupid chvd, not even the germans are white. read theory

>>698735
Tolerated is not being accepted. They are not a real part of the in-group.

>>698743
>Thread asks if Israelis are white
>Give an answer
<OMG WHO CARES ABOUT [thread‘s subject you chose to enter] THAT WOULDN‘T CHANGE [thing nobody disputed]
Maybe hallucinate less? Make more rational decisions perhaps?

>>698659
Jews are not white. They're clear.

>>698686
Kipling was not even english dog. He was like indian hindoo eating curry and shieet

so many people here don't consider them white

just sayin, israel has the highest rate of skin cancer and skin inflammation in the middle east, both in cases and treatment