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Why did the libyan people turn against him?

theyre brown therefore dumb

because he was too restrictive on personal freedoms, and harrased everyneighbor for petty reasons but only went to war against one, chad pickupriders on the ouzou strip which dissatisfied the tribes living on the southern borders

this is just the internals, ghaddafi's fuck up was inflated from outside, by the UK and france wanting him out of the picture for training and supplying enemies of them. and if im right americans have been trying to kill him as early as the seventies. he should of finished that nuke if he wanted to stay alive, but since libya is very close to israel and NATO geographically, that was never going to be left

>>699758
Back to 4chan

>>699761
>americans have been trying to kill him as early as the seventies.
i was recently reading a book about iran-contra which mentioned according to some libyan sources apparently gaddafi didnt' understand why reagan was going against him and he was depressed that they were constantly trying to topple his regime. if true, then gadaffi just seems very naive.

>>699758
libyans are whiter than the average white nationalist

>>699757
Because they didn't. I recommend this video by Hakim which explains everything pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i001dtu9_j8

>>699761
no bro obviously Western(tm) propaganda literally brainwashed libyan people!!!!!

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>>699789
>hakim

ive got more important things to worry about than choosing between one bourgeois nation state or the other

>>699757
It's like Eastern Europeans who celebrated the dissolution of the Eastern Bloc or the Alawites who cheered on the overthrow of Assad.

They all fell for the classic blunder.

>>699807
Almost like they were living in shitholes or something (in b4 the CIA magically made them hallucinate their material reality).

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>>699828
>You don't understand, I'm poor and my life sucks, you can't tell me that it was obviously stupid to make a deal with a devil and that I should have foreseen that he wouldn't actually give me any wealth or power and would just take my soul instead

>>699828
>the CIA magically made them hallucinate their material reality
This is literally what happened though

>>699828
how 2 teach ppl that a civil war might nuke their living standards?

>>699832
>>699841
Sure, they still are living in shitholes, but if you want to understand why things like this happen you can't just pretend le westoid ideas are the cause of everything.

>>699833
>ideas drive reality
Only in your head, lib.

>why did Libyans harbor no love for a comically evil despot who ruled their country with an iron fist for his entire lifetime, living lavishly while most people were poor and politically suppressed
<thread's full of pasty white 3rd worldist kids from the west who never had state police at their front door or stepped ouyghshells their entire lives when it comes to political topics to avoid arrest simping for said dictator because he was part of the axis of resistance and multipolarism or somethin
<these same people will try to tell you that revolution in the west is the only path forward, while revolution against 3rd world tinpot autocrats is akshually le bad because civil war is worse than poor living under dictators

God, I fucking hate modern leftists with every fiber of my being. They're cut from the same cloth as MIGAs and rightists. Ultra hypocritical, ultra conceited, noses buried deep in their assholes, dishonest, fantasize about oppressing others and surrogate those fantasies by simping for 3rd world dictators.

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>>699842
By now, these people should know how the game is played. The very moment they notice that a supposedly "popular movement" is getting open support from the West with full cooperation from said movement, they should regard the whole lot as traitors.

I'll give it to the Eastern Europeans that they hadn't seen this exact scenario play out dozens of times already with the dissolution of the Eastern Bloc, but in the 21st century, when a supposed popular movement without even the credentials of Solidarnosc (which was still a CIA and Vatican op) openly working with the Western powers, they should know what will happen if that """popular movement""" wins.

>>699844
>Our leader is bad so we should accept total chaos, destruction and immiseration at the hands of the Western imperialist powers
I'm actually pretty sure life under Gaddafi wasn't great, but Libya is one of the prime examples of why just because shit is bad now, that doesn't mean that it can't get much, much worse if you decide to make a deal with the Devil.

>>699757
"waz they stupid???"

Tribal autism

>>699845
>>Our leader is bad so we should accept total chaos, destruction and immiseration at the hands of the Western imperialist powers
You genuinely think that's literally what went through their desperate heads at the time before knowing what was actually going to happen? Get some nuance if you want to scientifically assess these matters. It also helps not to consider everyone is a proletarian except for le 1%.

>>700197
That's what they should have known the moment French bombs landed in their country.

He didn't legalize drugs

they craved NATO bombings and open air slave markets

>>699802
not an argument

>>700367
>muh welfare state
so libya was just like any random euro country?

>>700370
>Gaddafi overthrows King Idris, a puppet of European colonialism
<heh, this makes him just like European colonialists, long live the NATO slave markets
smooth snark, madame clinton

>>700374
who tf said anything about le colonialism retard

>NATO slave markets

oh no wonder you didnt even understand such a simple post, you can only understand the capitalist mop through the lens of race and geopolitics lmfao

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>>700377
it wasn't a racial statement, NATO literally overthrew the Libyan government resulting in open air slave markets

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>>700377
>who tf said anything about le colonialism retard
Me. I did. Because anti-colonialism was relevant to the content of the Libyan revolution in 1969. Libya was governed by a king backed by European and American imperialists. Gaddafi overthrew that king. So reducing what he did to "European welfarist social democracy" is ironic given that context

>>700380
someone less privileged than him raped him

>>700381
you're just a trolling /pol/tard arguing in bad faith and celebrating the destruction of a nation at the hands of NATO. Yeah, you definitely care about "privilege" or whatever.

>>699845
Well yeah, the proles everywhere are fucking retarded and easily led, but you can't hold it against them to want to overthrow a tyrant. That kind of logic has been used to justify all kinds of increased tyranny and oppression in MENA since the Arab Spring anyway.

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>>699844
<why did Libyans harbor no love for a comically evil despot who ruled their country with an iron fist for his entire lifetime, living lavishly while most people were poor and politically suppressed
<these same people will try to tell you that revolution in the west is the only path forward, while revolution against 3rd world tinpot autocrats is akshually le bad because civil war is worse than poor living under dictators

>God, I fucking hate modern leftists with every fiber of my being.
>fantasize about oppressing others and surrogate those fantasies by simping for 3rd world dictators.
If that were the case, they'd be simping for Royal Colony and restore my flag.
The whole revolution against 3rd world tinpot autocrats is akshually le bad because civil war is worse than poor living under dictators is Hobbes pilled, btw.

Gaddafi speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AuCRHGWM0s

>>700386
Damn, he was spitting.

>>699844
>comically evil despot who ruled their country with an iron fist for his entire lifetime, living lavishly while most people were poor and politically suppressed
literal American imperialist framing of Gaddafi


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