serious question. where there any communist or leftist leaders who were pedophiles? yes this includes sexual and or romantic acts as well
>>701586Do you mean hebephiles?
>>701592What's the difference between here and Reddit?
Or even better yet, what's the difference between here and 4chan?
>>701588It was always kinda like this.
Always have some moralistic obsession about somethings in waves
>>702063https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1912/jul/15.htmLenin calls him a "progressive, militant, revolutionary" while still of course giving serious criticism for holding bourgeois economic ideas.
He calls for the Chinese socialists to "take care to single out, defend and develop the revolutionary-democratic core of [Sun Yat-Sen's] political and agrarian programme" and to criticize his "petty-bourgeois utopias and reactionary views".
So yes, absolutely not a Communist by any means. But still a historically progressive leader.
>>702150go back to twitter and think of an original insult moralfag
>>702035i love touching kids
>>701586>Pedo discourse is mostly shitlib moral grandstanding. The same people who engage in it have no issues supporting child murderers and rapists.this is true. this also unfortunately includes the queer community as well. they feel for unfunny ragebait started by 4chan and is now stuck with the delusional belief that “maps are evil child molesters” while believing the age of brain development is 25 because of pop psychology which means everyone must become an adult at that age too
>>701579>thirteen was a junior adult, not a senior infantmakes sense since you stop growing biologically and physically in your teens. i wish the world still had this belief even to this day but unfortunately things change
>>702153>makes sense since you stop growing biologically and physically in your teens. i wish the world still had this belief even to this day but unfortunately things changeThe interesting thing about this mentality is that people never apply it to the animal kingdom
They dont even fully believe it for humans. The brain developmental theory is only used to socially disable young people from outdoing their elders.
But it's gonna bite society in the ass. It's gonna extend childhood indefinitely which means parents will have to spend their golden years caring for prime age adults.
The retirement age has been extended if not abolished.
Btw I don't approve of your MAP/pedophilia.
But I don't confuse it with child molestation.
Most child molesters are often heterosexual adults whom need a convenient psychosexual outlet for their ego
>>702160>Btw I don't approve of your MAP/pedophilia.>But I don't confuse it with child molestation.This is fine in principle, but this anon says in that post they love touching kids
>>702153>>thirteen was a junior adult, not a senior infant>makes sense since you stop growing biologically and physically in your teens.Cultural differences about age categories are a product of necessity more than anything. In a largely rural agriculturalist society, kids have to work from a pretty young age and as a result are seen as more grown. People also mature (psychologically and possibly physically) at different rates depending on environmental pressure based on having more responsibilities. That doesn't make a 13 year old an adult though. Anybody who reaches physical maturity at that age is an outlier and I seriously doubt anyone has ever reached psychological maturity nearly that young.
>>702167>That doesn't make a 13 year old an adult though. Anybody who reaches physical maturity at that age is an outlier and I seriously doubt anyone has ever reached psychological maturity nearly that young.Thats where you're wrong though.
Again, psychological maturity is not bound by age but by treatment.
By your logic, everyone is a child until thirty five which is already happening.
Again you say that:
>People also mature (psychologically and possibly physically) at different rates depending on environmental pressure based on having more responsibilities. So therefore, psychological maturity in youth isn't really an outlier.
>>702176>Again, psychological maturity is not bound by age but by treatment. There is a baseline capacity that has to exist first, which is limited by age. Kids are very adaptable but if they have to mature quickly in some respect it causes developmental deficits in other areas.
>Again you say that:<People also mature (psychologically and possibly physically) at different rates depending on environmental pressure based on having more responsibilities. Yeah that's not an absolute thing. Environment affects development but it doesn't determine it. You can't just put a baby into the grooming chamber and have it come out as an adult at age 13.
>>702179>There is a baseline capacity that has to exist first, which is limited by age. Kids are very adaptable but if they have to mature quickly in some respect it causes developmental deficits in other areas.I dont say no but I do find that the opposite often happens. Adults often wanna start kids off too late.
Also, maturity isnt defined by imposed responsibilities alone. Autonomy is a major aspect thats often overlooked in maturation.
>Yeah that's not an absolute thing. Environment affects development but it doesn't determine it. You can't just put a baby into the grooming chamber and have it come out as an adult at age 13.Who said anything about grooming?
But ok then by your definition, the current socio legal treatment of young people is not efficient.
We see how normalized it is to waste your youth in dead end jobs and zero life skills nowadays.
And its not because of "muh laziness" but rather because of sociolegal infantilism promoted by teachers and parents.
And again, if there is a baseline for maturation based on age, then, there's also a baseline for morality, gender, and race.
If morality is a spook, then racism, sexism , and ablieism are not wrong
And if gender is a spook, then why aren't you sexually appreciative of cismen?
Why do men have dicks-and-balls and women have vaginas?
>>702180Where do you get your strawmen from?
>>702220That's actually a good point.
But then, said things were progressive not reactionary, would you consider it wrong?
If we base right and wrong on dialectics alone, then would you be ok with hating on brown people if it was progressive?
As in the sense of production mode?
Because if you aren't ok with that, then maybe morality is not a spook.
Morality is most certainly real but it is often abused.
It's no different from any tool, physical or abstract, built by man.
I don't believe in morality by the religiopolitical sense but more the practical sense.
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