Anybody here ever dabble in the occult? Where would one start if they’re interested? Is there any merit to it? (not necessarily in terms of spiritual stuff, is there any scientific merit to old alchemical stuff/old remedies, etc)
Also feel free to dump pdfs of interesting occult related stuff; grimoires, research, etc
>>704454I dabbled in chaos magick because fuck y'all bitches I make my own magick
I can dig up old PDFs if anyone wants
>>704543Psychic powers and shit are real and I don't just mean psychology. You can effect people and sense things even when you're not directly interacting with the 5 senses.
There's a lot of proof out there, a lot of people have these kind of experiences a handful of times maybe in their lifetime. Skeptics are never actually interested in investigating it, they're always looking just to deboonk it. I remember reading of some study a few years ago where they just got 100 random college kids and asked them to predict what the next card would be or some stupid shit like that.
The USSR and the US didn't dump billions into this stuff for no reason.
https://espionagehistoryarchive.com/2016/01/09/the-kremlins-psychic-spies/
<RG: So the Chekists as well studied occultism here in Russia?
>BR: There’s nothing paradoxical that such a subject matter was within the security organs’ field of vision. From ancient times humanity has been interested in what the consciousness represents. The powerful of this world used various technologies for influencing the psyche.
>In the twentieth century, the magical practices of ancient shamans entered the scientific level of research, which immediately fell into the intelligence services’ field of vision. Special attention was devoted to this problem in Great Britain, Germany, and the Soviet Union. In our country, for example, practically all the people who possessed supernatural capabilities were under the control of the KGB.
>You can’t even conceive what sort of war of minds was unfolding in this field in the first half of the twentieth century. I’d hardly be exaggerating if I say that sometimes real “astral” battles were waged. And all of this was classified and camouflaged, probably no less than the nuclear project. >>704556It's such a silly way to wave it away.
>Global mass hysteria>All these serious science and research groups working on it for decades weren't doing anything but superstition and mental illness.Anyways. These kind of debates are so pointless. You don't want to actually learn about it, you just want to deboonk it. I certainly won't make you believe in it through an internet debate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRI_International
>SRI International (SRI) is a nonprofit scientific research institute and organization headquartered in Menlo Park, California, United States. It was established in 1946 by trustees of Stanford University to serve as a center of innovation to support economic development in the region.
>The organization was founded as the Stanford Research Institute. SRI formally separated from Stanford University in 1970 and became known as SRI International in 1977. SRI performs client-sponsored research and development for government agencies, commercial businesses, and private foundations. It also licenses its technologies,[3] forms strategic partnerships, sells products,[4] and creates spin-off companies.[5] SRI's headquarters are located near the Stanford University campus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology_research_at_SRI>Stanford Research Institute (now SRI International) in Menlo Park, California carried out research on various phenomena characterized by the term parapsychology from 1972 until 1991. Early studies indicating that phenomena such as remote viewing and psychokinesis could be scientifically studied were published in such mainstream journals as Proceedings of the IEEE and Nature. This attracted the sponsorship of such groups as NASA (by way of Jet Propulsion Laboratory) and The Central Intelligence Agency. And there are still serious universities investigating this shit. And the government is probably still working on it in secret.
>>704558https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/resources/careers-in-parapsychologypsychical-research/Careers in Parapsychology/Psychical ResearchUniversity Based Research Units
>UVA DOPS is one of a limited number of University-based research units in the world investigating similar paranormal phenomena. Some of the other research centers are: the University of Arizona Center for Consciousness Studies; the University of West Georgia; the University of Edinburgh-Koestler Parapsychology Unit; the University of Hertfordshire in England; and the Center for Research on Consciousness and Anomalous Psychology, Lund University, Sweden.
>The researchers at the University of Virginia’s Division of Perceptual Studies have a special interest in studying the evidence for survival of consciousness after death.Psychical Research Around the World
>For more information about the psychical research being done at other research facilities throughout the world, please refer to the list of Accredited Colleges and Universities in the United States and the United Kingdom found on the Parapsychology Foundation. Another resource that may be helpful is the Parapsychological Association website.Careers in Psychical Research
>Opportunities for making a full-time career in parapsychology are rare, since there are presently many more qualified people wishing to work in the field than there are funds for their support. Opportunities do exist, however.
>Carlos Alvarado Ph.D., one of our respected colleagues in the field, has valuable information to offer regarding careers in parapsychology.
< What is Parapsychology? <Parapsychology as a Profession <Getting to Work in Parapsychology <Reflections on Being a Parapsychologist <The Historical Perspective in Parapsychology
>Nancy Zingrone Ph.D., another of our respected research colleagues, offers important information about basic literacy in the field of parapsychology. In this article, she outlines the body of literature that serves as a solid foundation for those students and professionals who aspire to build a career in the field of parapsychology. Read: What Basic Literacy in the Field of Parapsychology Can Do For You
>The Alvarado-Zingrone Institute for Research and Education offers a wide variety of resources for those interested in studying parapsychology including classes taught by respected researchers and authors in the field. Click here for information regarding the courses they offer online. >>704561The thing is all the power only comes from people. All the magic words, symbols, rituals, and all that other shit are just props. They can help you as far as they effect your own mind to enter different states. Some people talk about developing a personal system of magick.
Just do meditation/contemplation however you do it. Quiet your mind and learn to see in alternate perceptions. Once you can do that your biggest problem is you will find it may be to real for you to handle.
>>704563>The thing is all the power only comes from people. Or maybe I should say channeled through people, but my point is whatever power is manifested, is not through the words or objects. It's really more along the lines of:
"You will think clearer when your room is clean."
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