To Kill A Mockingbird and The Catcher in the Rye are better than anything that ancient Greece has ever produced. As a matter of fact, Diary of A Wimpy Kid stands on a higher literary plane than the Iliad and the Odyssey.. . Epic poetry isn't valued

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Glownonymous 11-09-25 08:23:42 No.708485

To Kill A Mockingbird and The Catcher in the Rye are better than anything that ancient Greece has ever produced. As a matter of fact, Diary of A Wimpy Kid stands on a higher literary plane than the Iliad and the Odyssey.

Epic poetry isn't valued because of the writing or the story, but because they represent developmental stages in the history of literature. The modern novel is hardly a few centuries old and exists for a very different purpose than epics, which aren't intended for leisurely enjoyment. To put it more bluntly: cumbersome epic poems (Iliad, Odyssey, Gilgamesh, Ramayana, etc) belong to an inferior stage of social development, when storytelling hadn't evolved to its modern printed form on a large scale yet. There's a reason epics aren't written anymore.

James from the internet 11-09-25 08:30:30 No.708488

cool story bro

Glownonymous 11-09-25 08:32:45 No.708489

>>708488
Nothing in my post is a "story". Weed may have killed what few brain cells you had left.

Anonymous 11-09-25 08:37:23 No.708491

You are probably right in your examples, although I would not condemn epic poetry as a genre. Ever read Paradise Lost? Its peak even by modern standards.

James from the internet 11-09-25 08:39:31 No.708492

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>>708489
What about the literal stories in your post?
All those novels you read are stories.
Art evolves over time.
Are those medieval 2d drawings where every one looks like this any less valid?

Things, styles, tastes, technology changes over time. I don't know what you're really trying to get at in your OP.

So I just take another hit and post cool story bro.

Anonymous 11-09-25 08:49:16 No.708495

It's like classical music: simple compared to what people make now, but there's a cool ideas there even all the way back then. It can get you unstuck to see the basics again.

S 11-09-25 11:32:55 No.708532

>>708485
Strongly disagree. Have you read or listened to a reciting of the Illiad or the Odyssey? The characterisation of war and warriors and depictions of violence are much more powerful in the Homeric epics than they are in most books today.
>>708495
What? What music today makes Classical music seem simple when compared to it? Like niche subgenres (Black Metal) maybe but all the popular stuff today is just five chords and repeated sampled beats. Classical music carries so much emotion compared to pop, rap and rock and it always has, these new forms of music are just loud for the sake of being loud. Rock and all the popular music is just a worse form of folk and indigenous music.

Anonymous 11-09-25 11:48:26 No.708534

>To Kill A Mockingbird and The Catcher in the Rye are better than anything that ancient Greece has ever produced
stopped reading there
omegalul stop master baiting you zoomer clout chaser
you can't even make tiktok videos of making /leftypol/ers mad why are you wasting your time trying to ragebait anons?

Anonymous 11-09-25 13:37:59 No.708554

>>708485
>anything that ancient Greece has ever produced
What about gay sex?

Anonymous 11-09-25 15:25:04 No.708573

>>708532
>maybe but all the popular stuff today
I wasn't talking about popularity charts, I mean the field of composing has more theory and tools available to it than existed during the classics. Even that popular stuff is going to be more theoretically dense than a lot of the classics, even if the composer doesn't know it.
Take this for example: it's trying to sound like something old, but a lot of what it's doing jazzy and has mixing decisions that you'd notice if you tried to make a cover and have to reverse engineeer.

That's what I'm getting at: classical, and pretty much any music made at a known point in history, offers a peice made where the composer has never been exposed to what came after. Near guaranteed simplicity, rather than taking tricks you can pick up by ear for granted.

Anonymous 11-09-25 15:35:31 No.708577

>>708573 (me)
and I mean the coposer of songrel most certainly knows all the theory they're employing, but even if you sat down and tried to make the most simple music you could muster, you'd have to know the theory from the basics up to the bleeding edge to know you're not accidentally employing something or how to avoid doing so, as you'll inevitably draw from your own expeiences with music.

Anonymous 11-09-25 22:48:08 No.708727

the truth nuke that broke the leftoids mind….

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