/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>711072
The foolproof way is to get someone to lock yourself in a prison without or little food

>>711072
Eat less, eat better, work out, repeat until it works, start by quitting breakfast and snacking, and avoid eating deserts and very sugary stuff, if you do, eat fruits

>>711072
Move to Denmark and get ozempic for free because of universal public healthcare.

>>711072
<huge mass of flesh and fat.
B…Bakunin is it you?

>>711072
Calorie counting and calorie deficit. (General rule is if you're a man, don't go under 1500 calories).
https://www.exercise4weightloss.com/weight-loss-calculator.html
Pair this with light exercise and do it every single day and you should lose 4lb or 10lb by the end of each month.
Try to get 40g or 60g protein minimum.

By light exercise, a simple daily 20 or 40 minute walk should do.

>>711072
Start smoking. Smoking suppresses your appetite, and it isn't necessarily less healthy than being morbidly obese. It's also a lot easier to hide being a smoker than being a lardass.

1800 calories a day (focus on fiber, protein and rich carbs, avoid candy and things that have oil, except for fat fish) and walk at least 8km/day (first few weeks you won't be able to do it and will be very painful, but the body adapts surprisingly fast). Weight lifiting can help a lot, when you gain muscle your daily spent energy goes up, but I don't know if you have a gym nearby. You can lose 3kg-4kg a month like that.
But the most important thing is your mind. Understanding that is a process that will be very hard at the start (gets easir after the second month) and it will take time but it is extremely rewarding, even if takes more than a year remember that time will pass anyway. Don't try to acelerate with retarded shit like starving your self or exercizing more than you can, you are going to fail and recover all the weight feeling like a loser.
source: went from 134kg to 82kg a few years go, being fat is a fucking prison and anyone who denies it is lying to you.

>>711098
That only works if you are already skinny, otherwise you will just become a fat smoker.

>>711098
Or be a coffee drinker.
Caffeine suppresses appetite very well.

It might take months with daily calorie counting and dedication, but it can work.
Avoid sugary drinks… don't drink your calories (unless it is milk, but count your calories even the milk).

>>711075
This is is the only real solution

Eat less fat 0 willpowered fuck

>>711099
You have to "starve" yourself. You must deal with being hungry often because your body knows when you are trying to trick it with bullshit that isn't easily digestable carbs. Nobody ever fucking says this, and I think that leads to more failure. You will have to occupy your mind as best you can when it isn't time to eat. Just imagine your body eating itself when you're hungry because it pretty much is.

Yesterday I went for a 2 hour walk instead of eating dinner we are going to make it bros

stop eating so much fatty

>>711076
Itsa me! bordiga!

>think you lost weight
>it was just water weight
just throw me in a sealed room where i'm only served a slice of bread and water everyday

>>711624
>stop eating so much
This. I never understood people who claim they literally can't stop doing something. I mean are you seriously so retarded you can't like control yourself? How is it hard to not do something? Go put yourself in timeout.

Avoid all processed foods. Idk how to say it in english but there's something called "potasio monosodico" and pretty much everything processed has it. What does it do? it makes you want to eat more for no reason. It's the reason whenever you eat say some chips you randomly wanna eat way more shit, even if you're actually feeling full.

Eat more fruits and veggies and natural shit in general. For example if you wanna eat a 150 grams bag of chip then instead eat 150 grams in carrots. If you can't replace shit food right away then my advice may sound crazy but bear with me: eat MORE. Whenever you eat anything unhealthy and shitty, add something healthy. You'll still be having too many calories but at least you'll be getting some fucking nutrition so your body will run a bit better.

Also do cardio and LIFT WEIGHTS. Both things do wonders for your metabolism. It's not just about the calories. Giving your metabolism a boost is 100% gonna help you.

Also avoid added sugar. A pretty easy trick to lose weight and that takes very little effort is to straight up just quit soda. You can ignore everything else I said and you'll still lose a decent amount of weight just by getting rid of soda (and not replacing it with any other sugary drink, thats the whole point) but ideally you'd avoid everything with added sugar.

Starve. And when you feel pain remind yourself that this is the feeling of attaining beauty.

>>712375
Eating is a super basic evolutionary act. It evolved way before humans, that drive is only just below breathing. So just hold your breath. We did not evolve with food as abundant and food engineered to make you eat more.

>>711193
>You will have to occupy your mind as best you can when it isn't time to eat.
A rather niche hypothesis suggests that if you have the right genes (if your great-something grandparents have gone through famine), this has a lot of potential to not only reduce your body fat, but also make you more energetic:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240624164419/https://www.adaptedtofamine.com/
>The adapted-to-flee-famine hypothesis (AFFH) proposes that AN [anorexia nervosa] is caused by ancient adaptations selected when migration was indeed the best solution to local famine; then individuals high in self-control, energy, optimism and perseverance had a selective advantage, as would their bands.
>Before the mid 1960s patients rarely mentioned a fear of being fat to explain food restriction and hyperactivity. Historically, reports of an AN-like syndrome have surfaced whenever Europeans, Asians or Indigenous Americans have starved for any reason. In each era victims provided historically- and culturally-bound explanations.
>The English and French physicians who independently described the syndrome in 1873 included hyperactivity as a primary symptom. Frances Gull wrote, “[t]he patient complained of no pain, but was restless and active. …it seemed hardly possible that a body so wasted could undergo the exercise which seemed agreeable.”

Keep in mind though,
<Weight loss, not restrictive eating choices, is the trigger for anorexia in the genetically susceptible. It seems to patients and observers that AN is due to “persistent restriction of energy intake” because today the triggering weight loss is often the result of weight loss dieting.
<High levels of estrogen are often required in addition to weight loss for the genetic program to manifest. AN genes are more rarely activated in males or in prepubertal girls.
<Before AN derailed them, patients were typically high-achievers on track to a successful life. Their premorbid personalities were typically ascetic; in one study 23% had autism spectrum traits.

>>711193
>You must deal with being hungry often because your body knows when you are trying to trick it
This is 10 000 eleventy gorillion per cent bullshit.

The various parts of the brain are not strongly connected. That's why the placebo effect works even if you know you are taking a placebo. That's why you are more likely to laugh when you hear laughter even when you know it's canned laughter. That's why you can deal with an itchy leg by scratching the air above your leg while also scratching the sofa to produce a scratching sound.

There is NOTHING in your body that counts calories, only rough proxy values. You are physically incapable of eating or drinking more if your belly is full, no matter the substance. It can be water.

You WILL feel like you are eating more if you do ANY of the following:
-drink a glass of water before anything else
-look at the food while eating
-hold the bowl/plate
-use either tiny or heavy utensils
-chew longer
-do a one-minute pause in the middle of eating
Combine several of these for stronger effect.

If you sit on your ass all day your body registers the situation as you being not fat. This is bad. Put on a weighted exercise west to counter that (you don't actually have to exercise while wearing the west for this to work).

>>712391
Good advice.

I'll add:
Eat a stable diet meaning same meals for a while. This makes it easier to know what you're consuming.
Track calories for a bit. Every thing you eat, track it.
Eat more protein and fiber.
Drink more water.
Track your weight after peeing every morning.

Analyze your eating triggers. For me being at home means I will eat. So I try not to be home, instead I go to the gym or for a walk. I switch out processed snacks for fruit.

And above all, lots of patience. It's a slow process. It WILL pay off..
Source; lost 14 kilos recently.

>>711075
Taking Ozempic is the single worst way to lose weight

>>711072
Just starve to near-death
Then have two spoons of soup
Bis repetita

>>712388
It's really not that hard fatso. Throw away all your food then. If you don't have food, how can you eat?

>>712391
Okay none of that shit ever worked for me. I have to fast instead. In fact after about 16 hours I get a huge rush of energy and focus. It's amazing, I did have to deal with being hungry. I also take fiber with all my meals, doesn't do anything other than make my bowl movements the perfect consistency.

>>711072
Smoking helps, smoking a pack a burns about 200 calories, I vape which is even more powerful, I also drink copious amounts of coffee. I'm sedentary so I find around 1200 calories is enough to not be starving yet be in a substantial deficit, I weigh 60kg and 176cm tall. I binge ate for like 3 months and only gained 3kg so I think smoking helps alot.

>>712385
>For example if you wanna eat a 150 grams bag of chip then instead eat 150 grams in carrots
This works so well, while some people with severe disorders can eat no matter what most people can't eat more than 2 or 3 apples in a sitting. Seriously just try eating a bag of apples til you feel full and you won't even want to think of food for the next day.

workout more and more gradually and build muscle mass

hax: get addicted to stimulants

drink green tea and stuff that boost metabolism


also eventually when u r moar disciplined intermittently fast in the morning after you wake up and before bed

>>711091
>>711099
also this

I would add mbe eat a bunch of collagen supplements or food and protein so that ur skin can bounce back when u lose all that fat an slim down in size, altho putting on muscle will help w that too