/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>713189
Most zoomers are extremely jaded about neoliberalism and western culture I generalhaving grown up into an even more miserable environment than Mileanials. Materially speaking this was inevitable giving that the Occidental mode of production was always dependent on imperialism while Orientals are self sustaining. Gen alphas will grow up to be full-on Sinoboos while Xi does absolutely nothing.

>>713189
cant say i noticed this trend where i am

>>713189
I only see more openness to non-western popular media and inasmuch that they're in opposition to the imperialism of the west but I don't see them becoming full chinaboos.

Many see it as an alternative to the West. On TikTok, they see those viral videos of massive train stations, skyscrapers, hospitals that work and treat you right away, etc.

>>713189
Reaction to the constant barrage of anti chinese propaganda and positive reception of pro chinese propaganda (cool high tech stuff with neon light cities tik tok shorts) and chinese products that treat them

Most anti-China debate in the West is so low I.Q. that it doesn't actually critize real problems that China has but is some amalgamation of genocide fantasies and Tolkien orc Black propaganda.

Like, zoomers watched the meltdowns millenials had over Hong Kong, Tibet and Uighurs and also watched millenials getting weird with genocide fantasies like bombing that one Chinese dam on every single social media platform like Facebook, Instagram, 9gag, iFunny, Reddit.

What you are seeing right now is the pendelum swinging back.

A braun electric trimmer costs 150 usd
A xiaomi one costs came into the market at 50 usd
Repeat for every item

Been kneeling to xi ever since

t. third worlder

>>713192
>cant say i noticed this trend where i am

I was mostly just referring to constantly seeing edits like this everywhere.

>>713189
>China is actually socialist
It is.
>or if it’s good or bad,
China is good and anti-China posters are evil glowuyghurs defending american hegemony.
>why do you think so many Zoomers like China?
Because China is based.

>>713213
>China is actually socialist
>more billionaries than any country on Earth
>no free healthcare
>no working rights, workers are basically slaves
>censoring actual marxist discourse in social media
>huge private sector
>people basically live to compete

what's so socialist about this?

china has socdem treats that zoomers grew up seeing only in old TV shows and movies and not in real life

- Growing distrust in US propaganda
- Seeing how well China was doing on Xiauhongshu after TikTok got Zuckerberged before XHS required Chinese ID to keep using it.
- Gacha games

It's mostly the gacha games that did it

>>713189
Extreme cynicism and alienation from their fellow workers, leading to a self-identification with a 'successful' foreign nation-state as the only hope for their personal emancipation.

Because they are being based

>>713215
these billionaires literally worked hard to earn their wealth? why should they give it up to lazy ppl who wont want to work?
socialism = fairness, that doesnt sound fair to me

>>713189
women love the traditional chinese aesthetics because of gacha games and smut novels + japanese aesthetics have become (or have always been) too male-gazey

personally as a third worlder I like china not really because of politics but because they are straight up better businessmen than the local bourgeoisie. I have a small business and it is significantly easier for me to order custom and complex pcb designs from chinese suppliers than from the local industry. it's crazy, like, no chinese factory has ever ghosted me, no matter how cheap I tried to negotiate or how low some of the order quantities were. on the other hand the factories in my own city won't even answer my whatsapp messages because "they don't know me"

>>713189
because China, as long as zoomers have been alive, is actually is what America pretends to be: A wealthy powerful country with a high standard of living that interacts with everyone but doesn't really start shit, and whose citizens are actually happy and proud to live there. Anyone can see this despite all the propaganda against them. Yes it is state capitalist.

People that say "state capitalism" as if it were a bad thing have legit never read theory. Y'all would be surprised at how Lenin describes socialism lmao.

because middle classers love welfarism. same reason old people miss the ussr

Because of cool technology

>>713259
scroll reader identified

>>713261
>heheh, you just want a stable life, i just want everything to get worse until everyone is forced to fight to the death
ok. and?

People like China because China is Communist

>>713284
Are the images on the side supposed to be talk sprites or something? I don't get why this doc is laid out like that. Good post tho.

>>713189
china isnt some paradise on earth, but it seems like society is making genuine progress there. they have cyberpunk cities and androids. also they make really cool consumerist slop. i wish they had legal weed.

>>713228
This is utterly wrong. Communist China has no billionaires. "Billionaire" is a capitalist social relation, peculiar to imperialist mode of production, which cannot exist in Commuism.

The socialist transformation of private ownership of the means of production has been completed, the system of exploitation of man by man abolished, and a socialist system established. The exploiting class, as a class, has been eliminated. There are proletarian managers of vast means of production who, as a class, draw income thousands of times less than capitalist managers. https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/senior-exec-pay-slumps-at-chinese-listed-firms-in-2023-for-first-time-in-20-years-report-says The chairman of biotech firm WuXi AppTec, Li Ge, a "billionaire", was the highest paid executive with a salary of CNY41.9 million (USD5.7 million). To equate these indepensible, humble proletarians who manage vast means of production and provide the most immense labor with capitalist billionaires is anti-Communist slander.

The liberal lie that Communist China has "billionaires" is due to the fact that the liberal equates the assets under the proletarian manager like Jack Ma as capital when it is merely means of production they manage. This is equivalent to calling Xi a trillionaire because you say all State asset is his.

>>713285
<random goofy shit nobody said
everyone wants to have a "stable life" but clearly not everyone can since capitalism necessitates the existence of a proletariat, retard

>>713294
>imperialist mode of production
lmfao

Zoomers acually hate China because they trade with Israel

>>713301
Until they realize they trade at an advantage, economically eroding israel*

>>713259
>>713259
>>713259
Wrong. China is not state capitalist. China's state capitalist era ended by 1956
https://www.marxists.org/subject/china/documents/cpc/8th_congress.htm

>>713301
I would pay to see these zoomers explain to palestinians why they should burn the clothes on their backs and their other necessities because theyre from china, or how starving themselves from Chinese commodities and depending utterly on zio-western monopolies instead of more affordable Chinese necessities would help them

>>713294
>>713297
samefag

>>713316
They pay those chinese treats with UNRWA money whose biggest donor is the USA so think twice before criticizing the west you eastern zionist

Why doesn't the American proletariat rise up and block weapon shipments to Israel? Italians, Frenchmen, Spaniards and Greek did it easypeasy.

>>713326
>Why doesn't the American proletariat rise up and block weapon shipments to Israel?
space lasers

>>713294
based. billionaires are proletarian and probably do more labour than the average """"""communist"""""

>>713329
Italians, Frenchmen, Spaniards and Greeks defeated space lasers, got it

>>713335
Well they still have the industry needed to make a mirror so yeah probably

no idea. i’m a zoomer and have negative and positive thoughts about china myself

despair