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Thinking about him from an atheistic perspective makes me very mad. People berated and tortured him for pointing out the flaws in their society and venerated him only after his gruesome death. I don't agree with everything he said, but the fact that people will shit on you in life only to turn you into a fetishistic object to serve their own needs after your death fills me with contempt for humanity. And the fact that they will come up with retarded cope to do so makes me hate humanity even more. It's narcissism all the way down.

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>>716125
I always say, is the whole flogging the cross story and the symbol, supposed to an example to follow? Or a warning? Maybe I haven't formulated it clearly enough in my mind, but I really feel if Jesus did come back, they'd just crucify his ass again. It's really a message about "Don't you try any Jesus it again!" The ROMAN Catholic church.

>>716132
>"Don't you try any Jesus it again!"
any Jesus *stuff

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The Catholic Church is satanic as fuck by the way. You are a liar if you don't admit the Popes have all mostly been antichrists.

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Did Hatuey go to heaven or hell in the end?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatuey

<Bartolomé de Las Casas later attributed the following speech to Hatuey which was addressed against Christianity. He showed the Taíno of Caobana a basket of gold and jewels, saying:


>They have a God whom they worship and adore, and it is in order to get that God from us so that they can worship Him that they conquer us and kill us…Here is the God of the Christians. If you agree, we will do areitos (which is their word for certain kinds of traditional dance) in honour of this God and it may be that we shall please Him and He will order the Christians to leave us unharmed.


<The Taíno chiefs in Cuba did not respond to Hatuey's message, and few joined him to fight. Hatuey resorted to guerrilla tactics against the Spaniards, and was able to confine them for a time. He and his fighters were able to kill at least eight Spanish soldiers. Eventually, using mastiffs and torturing the native people for information, the Spaniards succeeded in capturing him. On 2 February 1512, he was tied to a stake and burned alive at Yara, near the present-day city of Bayamo.[5]


<Before he was burned, a priest asked Hatuey if he would accept Jesus and go to heaven. Las Casas recalled the reaction of the chief:


>[Hatuey], thinking a little, asked the religious man if Spaniards went to heaven. The religious man answered yes… The chief then said without further thought that he did not want to go there but to hell so as not to be where they were and where he would not see such cruel people. This is the name and honour that God and our faith have earned


I love the Roman Catholic Church.

>Nooooo! We're not those guys who crucify people anymore! We're now reformed Romans who only burn people alive!

>>716125
They never tortured him, he had a flatscreen TV, a 40ft pool and a disco, woud they really bother giving him these things if they wanted to torture him?

>>716151
Besides if they did torture him (which they totally didn't) he wanted it, as he considered it necessary and wanted to go with the flow and let it happen, just like it says in the gospel of Judas where he purposefully lets himself get caught, The gospel of Judas definitely being older than the oldest surviving bible.


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